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Recently archived requests

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Files uploaded by Charivnanatusya

The batch of files uploaded by Charivnanatusya was deleted as unused personal photos (see also the deletion request's talk page) for context). However, the photos likely have encyclopedic / illustrative value as depicting Ukrainian folklore; they were submitted to the international Wiki Loves Folklore. The author clearly intended for the photos to depict folklore and Ukrainian traditions rather than use Wikimedia Commons as a storage for personal photos, as she herself wrote on her talk page in response to the notification about the deletion request (in Ukrainian). --AntonProtsiuk (WMUA) (talk) 05:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@AntonProtsiuk (WMUA) and Yann: I have to agree with the nominations and then Yann's actions. These were poems in English, without attribution, and what seems unrelated images, and these look like personal images rather than clear folklore. If the contributor knows English then send them here, If they do not know English, then what are they contributing? I see neither encyclopaedic nor illustrative value in the [uploads.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:24, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 Oppose I agree. It looks to me like a personal photo album with 193 images. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 Oppose restoration per above. Bedivere (talk) 20:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: per discussion. Out of scope. --Abzeronow (talk) 16:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


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File:1969_Tokyo_Collegiate_Championships_-_Bunasawa.jpg

This photo was deleted without cause. It contributed to the article --DN27ND (talk) 06:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose 1969 picture scan claimed as own work, without permission from copyright holder. Yann (talk) 08:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


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File:Helio and Nori.jpg

This picture contributed to this article. Please undelete --DN27ND (talk) 06:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose Newspaper scan claimed as own work, no permission from copyright holder. Yann (talk) 08:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


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File:Judo Journal - 1st Maeda serial.jpg

This photo was released by the owner of the newspaper and contributed to the article. Please undelete --DN27ND (talk) 06:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose Newspaper scan claimed as own work, no permission from copyright holder. Yann (talk) 08:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


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File:Bob Hope, Bunasawa, Willard Robertson at the Ichiban dojo in 1975.jpg

This photo was released by its owner and contributed to the article. Please undelete --DN27ND (talk) 06:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose Newspaper scan claimed as own work, no permission from copyright holder. Yann (talk) 09:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 14:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


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File:1969 Waseda Judo Team.jpg

This photo was released by its owner and contributed to the article. Please undelete. --DN27ND (talk) 06:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose 1969 picture scan claimed as own work, no permission from copyright holder. Yann (talk) 09:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 14:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


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File:Liliya Podkopayeva.jpg

Please kindly undelete the photo, since it was provided by the person herself alongside with her agreement to publish it. The copyright belongs to Liliya Podkopayeva, as she personally confirmed that it was a private photoshoot for which she had paid, therefore the copyright was transferred from the author to the owner. We have sent an email, ticket 2024042210009148

I'm forwarding the info here: The photograph in question, depicting me, was taken during a paid photoshoot, for which I hold the copyright now, because I paid for it and the copyright was granted to me. Initially, it was shared on my private Instagram account. Subsequently, it has garnered attention from various media outlets, as evidenced by its appearance in the following publication: https://stars.clutch.net.ua/75376-zatmila-pervuyu-ledi-ukrainy-liliya-podkopaeva-opublikovala-foto-s-elenoy-zelenskoy-obe-v-chernyh-kostyumah-foto I would like to propose its inclusion on Wikipedia as an alternative to the current image. As a gymnastics champion, it would be more representative to showcase a photograph featuring myself with my medals, rather than one in a dancing dress. I am amenable to the dissemination of this photograph and would be grateful for its incorporation into the Wikipedia entry. Thank you in advance.

That was signed and sent bu Liliya herself. Please restore the file, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naruighich (talk • contribs) 14:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

 Oppose Per the response at Commons:Volunteer Response Team/Noticeboard#Liliya Podkopayeva ticket # 2024042210009273. The estimated processing time for VRT tickets in English is 7 days. Thuresson (talk) 15:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@Thuresson exactly. and they have passed.

 Not done: The file will be undeleted if and when the permission is validated. No need for further action from the uploader. --Yann (talk) 16:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


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File:Shahroz ahmed.jpg

Undelete this file plz

 Not done: Repeated abuse of COM:WEBHOST, see Special:Undelete/File:Shahroz_ahmed.jpg. --Yann (talk) 10:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


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File: Psiholoģe Vita Kalniņa grāmatas atklāšanā 2023.jpg

The photograph in question is my own work. I have sent a release to allow anyone to use the work. I kindly ask for you undelete this media file.

--Lina.elza (talk) 14:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Not deleted, and this was never deleted. --Yann (talk) 14:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

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File:Julio Correa Myzkowsky.jpg

public domain image in Paraguay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pedrovjrv (talk • contribs) 22:59, 25 April 2024‎ (UTC)

 Info Deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Pedro Cayetano J Vera. Thuresson (talk) 03:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Why is this public domain? Did the photographer die 70 years ago? Bedivere (talk) 20:40, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done No response. Ankry (talk) 01:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Jose-Maria-Rivarola-Matto.jpg

public domain image in Paraguay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pedrovjrv (talk • contribs) 23:00, 25 April 2024‎ (UTC)

 Info Deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Pedro Cayetano J Vera. Thuresson (talk) 03:41, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
@Pedrovjrv: How can a 2022 photo be public domain in Paraguay? Thuresson (talk) 22:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done No response. Ankry (talk) 01:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:윤운영-배우2.jpg

Please do hot delete File:윤운영-배우2.jpg. Because I recieved this photo file from the owner who is the actor, 윤운영. And I mended the photo with Photoshop by myself. 윤운영, the actor who is the owner of this photo already said that anyone can use this file. If my saying is not true, I will take the resposibility for the any result.

Thanks a lot. I love Wiki and everyone here.

--K-wiki-editor (talk) 15:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Same image as above request. --Yann (talk) 15:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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Files of Sainte Marie de la Tourette

Both photos were taken of my group of graduate students (FH Cologne, architectural department), as incidental images, on which almost nothing is shown of the monastery. Peter Christian Riemann (talk) 17:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose The roof's architecture is a main subject in the first, and the building is the subject of the second. Abzeronow (talk) 17:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
First picture: the main motive is the group of my students and the "roofs architecture" consists of the concrete walls (students standing) and of the steps (students sitting), both of which can`t be seen and can´t be visoned as bridge-construction between the church and the housing part of the former monastery. The cube in the foreground is the top of a banal staircase exit, and in the back one can see only the last part of the chimney. All elements are mere functional as one can see on this pic: https://www.german-architects.com/images/Projects/03/90/19/33a05007fe63472b8314379afd0d6855/33a05007fe63472b8314379afd0d6855.8945f03a.jpg (church is on the right of the slot between buildings, housing on the left) and not the "architectural roofgarden" which is typical for Corbusier`s "Unité s`habitation"-buildlings i.e. in Marseille: https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/march-2014/living-laboratory-richard-pare-on-le-corbusier-and-konstantin-melnikov/ (first picture). Please undelete under: CC BY-SA 4.0 Legal Code, Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International
Second picture I agree that there is too much to be seen of the whole building. should be deleted. Thanks Peter Christian Riemann (talk) 05:33, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
@Peter Christian Riemann: Yes, we could keep the first picture after cropping the building, but the quality is poor, so what is the educational use of this picture without the building? Yann (talk) 16:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Yann: My intention was to visualize in the article the "pilgrimage" of architectural students. But without the banal rest of the building, this would make no sense, thanks though. Peter Christian Riemann (talk) 06:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: This can be considered as withdrawn. --Yann (talk) 05:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Yoko Alender.jpg

Hi there!

I am wondering to know, why my uploaded file was deleted, since I mentioned references.

Reference: https://reform.ee/euroopa-parlamendi-valimised-2024/yoko-alender

Person on the picture gave a permission for publishing as well as every picture on reform.ee is for free use all across the globe.

Maybe I wrote Authors rights form incorrect, but I will wait for your answer and will stay on that this picture IS NOT violate the authors rights.

Thank you in advice, Roccki69 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roccki69 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 29 April 2024‎ (UTC)

@Roccki69: I don't see any kind of explicit free license there. Estonia is a signatory of the Berne Convention and all photographs are automatically considered copyrighted unless explicitly said otherwise. Abzeronow (talk) 20:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
@Roccki69: "Free use" is not a free license; see COM:L for minimal requirements. Also, any license has to be granted in a written form. Ankry (talk) 01:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: per discussion. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:57, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Dixie - Unofficial anthem of the Confederate States.ogg

Please restore the following pages:

Reason: I have found out that this rendition of Dixie was written and conducted by Richard Bales. It was released in an album called The Confederacy in 1958. The file was deleted due to it not being known weather it violated copyright or not, since Richard Bales passed away in 1998 this version of Dixie might be in public domain. https://archive.org/details/lp_the-confederacy_richard-bales_0/page/n6/mode/1up https://archive.org/details/lp_the-confederacy_richard-bales_1/disc1/02.05.+Dixie's+Land+With+Quckstep+And+Interlude%3A+Year+Of+Jubilo.mp3 Andrew Adams fan (talk) 03:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose 1958 sound recording is protected until 2068. Also even if the life of the author figured into this, 1998 is not 70 years ago. Abzeronow (talk) 16:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done as per Abzeronow. Ankry (talk) 20:29, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Die Verboten (Press picture).jpg

Hello,

The picture that has been uploaded can be used for Wikipedia, but I have indicated the wrong copyright type in the uploading process. Is it possible to undelete it?

Have a nice day, Pieter PieterDS (talk) 19:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Unless there is an explicitly free license at the source, we'd need VRT permission from the photographer to host it here. Abzeronow (talk) 19:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
@PieterDS: Which license is correct in your opinion and where has it been granted? Ankry (talk) 01:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Copyright information at the source doesn't indicate any free license. --Yann (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:ThirumaLi.jpg

The image was captured by my one of the friend and I have acquired full permission and rights to use it as my own work and upload it to Thirumali's page. Please remove the copyright violation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rydex64 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

@Rydex64: Then please ask your friend to confirm the permission for a free license via COM:VRT. The file will be undeleted when the permission is validated. Yann (talk) 20:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Definitely. Thank you, will ask him to do so. Rydex64 (talk) 20:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done waiting for VRT action. Ankry (talk) 20:27, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Peter Jordan em 2022.png

It isn't a copyright violation. I linked the YouTube video source, which is under a Creative Commons license, as can be read in the description. I specifically put in the license which the image was under, both in English and in Brazilian Portuguese. Pato ilógico (talk) 01:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 Support CC-BY-3.0 at youtube.com. Thuresson (talk) 04:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Could we expedite the image undeletion? The Wikipedia page is currently without an image due to this issue. Thanks! Pato ilógico (talk) 15:35, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
I usually wait for 24 hours after the request, or after the last comment. Yann (talk) 16:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: License reviewed. --Yann (talk) 05:46, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:윤운영배우1.jpg

File:윤운영배우1.jpg I directly recieved this photo from 윤운영. 윤운영 is the man of the photo. There is no reason you should delete this file. Please do not delete this photo file.

--K-wiki-editor (talk) 14:35, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose You said you are the owner of this file, which is wrong. The copyright holder is usually the photographer, not the subject. So we need a formal written permission for a free license from the copyright holder. Please see COM:VRT for the procedure. The file will be undeleted if and when the permission is validated. Yann (talk) 14:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: This image will be restored automatically, without further action by the uploader, if and when a free license is received, read, and approved at VRT. The current backlog at VRT is 7 days. . .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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Request by Mitumial

Ich bitte darum, genannte Dateien wiederherzustellen, da diese Teil diverser Wikipediaprojekte sind, an denen ich teils auch als Autor mitgearbeitet habe.

Mitumial (talk) 11:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose I have looked at half a dozen of these and they all were deleted by Yann as personal images from a non-contributor. I see no reason to disagree with that. Commons is not Facebook. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Most of the pictures have been part of different projects showing different models for illustration not for private use Mitumial (talk) 18:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
I wrote Yann, he understood my issue and he told me to ask here Mitumial (talk) 18:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Stalled. No consensus to undelete. --Yann (talk) 13:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Adi Nes 004.jpg

Just a piece of artwork, but it is licensed under {{Cc-by-sa-3.0}}. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebiguglyferret (talk • contribs) 09:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

@Thebiguglyferret: Per policy, the uploader is required to provide a verifiable evidence of free license permission or ensure that the copyright holder did sent the permission via email following VRT instructions. There is no evidence of the permission on this page. The image may be undeleted when the evidence is provided. Ankry (talk) 20:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: as per Ankry. --Yann (talk) 11:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Toho cinemas.svg

This file is a vectorized version of File:Toho Cinemas.png. File:Toho Cinemas.png has been posted for two years and has not been deleted for copyright infringement, so I believe the license is appropriate. I believe the decision to delete is inappropriate and I request the withdrawal of the deletion.
Thank you.
Amaterasu 1-1 (talk) 03:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose Much too complex. PNG version nominated for deletion. Yann (talk) 05:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: per Yann. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 08:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Graniph logo.svg

After I got warning, I changed the source URL to proper one. Luke atlas (talk) 03:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: pd-textlogo and has a valid source. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 08:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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Some files

File:Pasar logo.svg
File:Expasa logo.svg
File:Pavarie logo.svg
File:Neopasa logo.svg
I believe these logos are not logos with complex shapes that exceed the threshold of originality, but are logos composed of simple shapes.
Your incerely,
Luke atlas (talk) 05:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: At least these require a regular DR. Done for 3 of them. --Yann (talk) 11:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Javier Mercado.jpg

Hello, I believe that deleting the image is not correct because it is licensed under Creative Commons 3.0, as you can see in the footer of the website that it has been published there.

Thank you.

https://www.coleccionistasdemonedas.com/author/javier/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coleccionistasdemonedas (talk • contribs) 11:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

 Oppose Personal image for advertising purpose. Yann (talk) 11:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 11:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Captura coleccionistas de monedas 2022.jpg

Hello, I believe that deleting the image is not correct because it is licensed under Creative Commons 3.0, as you can see in the footer of the website that it has been published there.

https://www.coleccionistasdemonedas.com/graduacion-estado-de-conservacion-de-monedas-antiguas/

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coleccionistasdemonedas (talk • contribs) 11:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

 Oppose The license is only CC-BY-ND-3.0 which is not OK for Commons. This doesn't allow for derivative works. We need a license for any use for any purpose, including commercial ones. Also what is the educational use of this screenshot? Yann (talk) 11:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 11:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Clubgebouw Oosterkwartier Haarlem na vernielingen in 1965.jpg

url of source is available, license info is present - all files are {{Noord-Hollands Archief-de Boer}}. These were probably auto-deleted before I could remove the issue tag.

same is true for:

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tertius3 (talk • contribs) 11:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

@Krd and Didym: as involved admins. Yann (talk) 11:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: {{Noord-Hollands Archief-de Boer}} seems to apply here. --Yann (talk) 13:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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Photos by Christophe Péan

Please undelete

We have permission from the photographer by Ticket:2024050310003731.

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Mussklprozz (talk • contribs) 13:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

✓ Done: @Mussklprozz: FYI. --Yann (talk) 13:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Grabado de Nauta.png

Please restore the following pages:

Reason: Restauración de imagen antigua y recategorización . Autor: Paul Marcoy del libro "Viaje a través de América del Sur. Del océano Pacífico al océano Atlántico".

Restoration of old image and recategorization. Author: Paul Marcoy from the book 'Journey through South America. From the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean.'" ArticleAmazon (talk) 17:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

 Support 1870s book. Abzeronow (talk) 17:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done @ArticleAmazon: Please fix license/source/description. Ankry (talk) 18:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Logos for Kosovo ethnic Serb municipalities

Please permanently undelete these files:

The deletion requests were:

The nominator User:AceDouble gave the rationale "Fictional emblem used by serbian parallel structures and not in official use by kosovan authorities see here: [...]". Similar files have since been kept following deletion requests, on the basis that these emblems are probably not fictional but are emblems of towns or regions in Kosovo that have ethnic Serb majorities, so these files are in COM:SCOPE. The deleting admin has no objection to undeletion, see User talk:Infrogmation#Deleted requests for Kosovo Serb files.

Several similar deletion requests have since been issued with the same rationale, as follows:

Verbcatcher (talk) 17:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

@Verbcatcher: Are you able to provide evidence that the logos are really used in public space if the abovementioned DRs are reopened? Ankry (talk) 10:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Some or all of them are linked in the newer batch of deletion requests. I will try to add some here. Verbcatcher (talk) 21:32, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
@Verbcatcher: These "logos" were never adopted officially as required per law on local self-government in Kosovo => https://mapl.rks-gov.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Law-On-Local-Self-Government.pdf Article 7 Symbols 7.3 "The symbols of a Municipality shall be approved and changed by the municipal assembly pursuant to the constitutional and legal provisions of Republic of Kosova and shall not resemble to symbols of other states or municipalities within or outside Republic of Kosova". For example: the Municipality of Graçanica which has a serb majority population, did approve its own symbols according to the law and they are included in the official site: https://kk.rks-gov.net/gracanice/
The forementioned files should be removed as well (Leposavic, Zvecan, North Mitrovica, Zubin potok) .png .gif .svg AceDouble (talk) 19:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
@AceDouble: we do not require that images are approved or adopted by any government. Verbcatcher (talk) 21:30, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Being official / adopted by any government is not required to host an image in Commons. Being actually used is enough. However, if the image is not official, we cannot apply any copyright exception related to government and official works and so we need an evidence that the image is too simple for copyright protection or a free license from the author. Ankry (talk) 10:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
@Ankry: Verbcatcher has no evidence for the use of these nonexisting symbols in public spaces whatsoever.

Sources:

    • [[1]] - North Mitrovica
    • [[2]] - Zvecan
    • [[3]] - Zubin Potok
    • [[4]] - Leposavic

AceDouble (talk) 00:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

@AceDouble: , I do have evidence. As I said above "Some or all of them are linked in the newer batch of deletion requests. I will try to add some here." I will add some links soon. Your new links only identify the symbols used by the Kosovo Government. They do not relate to the symbols discussed here. Verbcatcher (talk) 00:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Here are links that confirm that the symbols are used. I do not have access to the deleted files, but the placenames indicated in the file names match our current files and it is probable that they have the same symbols. I don't understand these languages and I cannot confirm the reliability of these sources.

@Vanjagenije: you commented on some of the recent deletion requests, can you comment here? Verbcatcher (talk) 01:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Here are Google Maps photos that show the symbols displayed in two of these places.
Verbcatcher (talk) 01:46, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
These Municipalities are located in the Republic of Kosovo full stop. By quoting unofficial links and trying to make them "legal" is not the proper way to enrich wikipedian articles.
Official sites:
AceDouble (talk) 10:33, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 Support undeletion and reopening the DRs as they may need wider discussion about their status. While they are not "official", the declaraion that they are "fictional" is a lie if they are actually in use. However, the {{PD-Kosovo-exempt}} cannot be applied to unofficial emblems and so we need a valid copyright tag (probably a free licese declaration by their human authors). Ankry (talk) 11:06, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
@AceDouble: we are not trying to make these 'legal'. There are other symbols on Commons that are probably illegal in their recognised nation state, such as the flag of Islamic State. If these files should not be used in specific Wikipedia articles then please discuss in on their talk pages, or in a Wikiproject such as w:en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Kosovo. If it is reliably established that these symbols are illegal under the law of Kosovo then we could indicate this in the description on the file page, or a template could be created.Verbcatcher (talk) 11:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 Oppose They are not in use, per given source.
AceDouble (talk) 12:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 Comment Hi. I declined a few deletion requests on the basis the rationale was not a valid reason for deletion, but I pointed out copyright status was a more sensible reason for deleting them (for example here), since I took a look on the template used there ({{PD-SerbiaGov}}) and I was not entirely convinced on its applicability. Strakhov (talk) 13:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  • I accept that these files may have a risk of copyright violation because both {{PD-Kosovo-exempt}} and {{PD-SerbiaGov}} look invalid. The four deleted files should be undeleted (they might have a valid license), and a mass deletion request should be raised for all these files. There are various reasons by which they could be 'free': these could be old public domain symbols, possibly dating from the Yugoslav period. Alternatively, someone with local contacts might identify the authors or copyright holders, and establish free licenses. The municipal authorities might be able to issue valid licenses even if the Kosovo national government did not recognise these authorities. Verbcatcher (talk) 19:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
    • I can assure you that these don't have valid licenses neither they date back from the yugoslav period. And something i almost forgot.. The UN Habitat programme in Kosovo which has partnership with the municipalities of Kosovo, check out these symbols they have for Zvecan, Zubin potok and Leposavic on their site:
    • [[25]] Zvecan
    • [[26]] Zubin Potok
    • [[27]] Leposavic
    AceDouble (talk) 22:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Stale. If requesting again, please provide clear information about suggested license template and its evidence. The status may be different for each logo. Ankry (talk) 13:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Omotenashi-jaxa.jpg

Prof Hashimoto from JAXA and ISAS who oversaw the project sent a VRT for the file as far as I am aware. Also, as stated before, there is a notice on JAXA website regarding free use of their images and its verified that it applies to Commons.--VectorVoyager (talk) 14:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@VectorVoyager:
  1. If an image requires a VRT perimission, you do not need to make a request here; the image will be undeleted after the permission is verified and accepted.
  2. You declared at upload that the photo is {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}} licensed; I see no mention of this license on the abovementioned JAXA page.
  3. This page is not the right venue to discuss non-standard license compatibility with Wikimedia Commons requirements; if there was a discussion in this matter with a clear consensus and the appropriate template was created, please point them out. I cannot find any JAXA-related copyright template.
Ankry (talk) 20:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

{{Not done}}: as per Ankry. --Yann (talk) 11:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Reopening: @Ankry: , @Yann: , I'd ask you to look at the linked JAXA Data Policy page. Section 3 indicates that "Digitized documents, photos, pictures, videos, etc., which are created with the aim of long-term and universal use." are included under the open data policy. Section 6 states that the open data policy follows Government of Japan Standard Terms of Use (Version 2.0) and that those standards are compatible with Creative Commons BY 4.0. The proper license template should be {{GJSTU-2.0}}. —Tcr25 (talk) 13:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

 Support undeletion per above. Ankry (talk) 17:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: per above. --Bedivere (talk) 02:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Nieuport-Delage_NiD_39_interior.jpg

I don't understand why this file was deleted. I wonder what the interior of that plane looked like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maarghra (talk • contribs) 21:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

 Not done: There is no deleted file by that name, and this user has no deleted file. Please provide a file name with a valid rationale for undeletion. --Yann (talk) 21:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:SwitchBoot logo.svg

File:SwitchBoot logo.svg was speedily deleted as CSD G10 (advertisement) by User:Pi.1415926535 during the course of this deletion request of a lower quality png file of the same logo. The lower quality file is currently in use in an article on the Japanese language Wikipedia about the company. It is debatable whether a simple logo like this could qualify as an advertisement and CSD G10 does not apply to advertisements within project scope anyway. The presence of an article on Japanese Wikipedia renders this file as being in scope for as long as Japanese Wikipedia choses to retain this article. Pi.1415926535 brought up the fact that the file was uploaded by a spammer when declining to undelete the image, but this does not seem germane if the file is in scope. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

 Support PD-textlogo. Yann (talk) 21:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: simple. --Bedivere (talk) 02:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:DaVinci Resolve 12 5colourpage.jpg

Screenshots cannot be copyrighted. Unless the maker of the screenshot asked for it to be taken down, this delete was superfluous. The software itself is proprietary; its likeness is not.

Compare to pages for each version of MacOS and OS X, all very much proprietary software backed with aggressive legal teams, yet those screenshots remain live on those pages.

The enaction of Wikimedia's policies on copyrighted work must be based in actual copyright law, and should be used only to keep Wikipedia free and open. I cannot see how deleting this screenshot accomplished that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.65.44.226 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 3 May 2024‎ (UTC)

 Oppose Screenshots can very well be copyrighted. We need a permission for a free license from the copyright holder. Please see COM:VRT for the procedure. Yann (talk) 21:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 Oppose I agree with Yann, screenshots can definitely be copyrighted. Abzeronow (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Per above. --Bedivere (talk) 02:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Little Storping In The River.jpg

This photo was is owned by me, and was taken in November 2023. I own the copyright. I don't understand how it has been decided that someone else owns copyright to this from 2016 (the photo has only existed since November 2023). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peggyfuggall (talk • contribs) 11:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

@Peggyfuggall: That's what the EXIF data says: Artist: Steven Robert Breen, Copyright: Steven R Breen 2016 Yann (talk) 11:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
@Peggyfuggall: If you are Steven R Breen or you have copyright transfer contract with Steven R Breen then you need to prove that contacting VRT. We cannot verify any of them on-wiki. Ankry (talk) 17:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: This image will be restored automatically, without further action by the uploader, if and when a free license is received, read, and approved at VRT. The current backlog at VRT is 7 days. . .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Win Wu YanHong.jpg

I took the picture myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by Europaganymede (talk • contribs)

 Oppose This was copied from Facebook. If you are the photographer, then please upload the original image with EXIF data. Otherwise the copyright holder must send a permission for a free license via COM:VRT. Yann (talk) 11:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 15:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Maria Lynn Ehren.jpg

This is the picture of "Maria Poonlertlarp" a Thai actress, model and beauty pageant.

The reasons for the request is 1. This photo was taken by me with Maria's permission. 2. Uploading this picture was a request from Maria herself. Because she wanted to change her picture on Wikipedia to this picture.

--Mint Panida (talk) 13:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, This seems to be an edited copy from Instagram, and there is no EXIF data. So you need to confirm the permission for a free license via COM:VRT. Yann (talk) 14:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: This image will be restored automatically, without further action by the uploader, if and when a free license is received, read, and approved at VRT. The current backlog at VRT is 7 days. . .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


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Images of the civic acqueduct of Ferrara

Hello everyone, I'm writing here in order to ask for the undeletion of File:Acquedotto Ferrara.jpg, File:Ferrara acquedotto.jpg and the earliest version of File:Acquedotto.jpg (the present version is another image of an historic acqueduct in a different city, Perugia and not Ferrara). All these images were deleted in 2013 after this DR and they all depict the it:Acquedotto di Ferrara, commissioned by the local municipality to the engineer Carlo Savonuzzi, who at that time was an employee of the Municipality of Ferrara (see here and here). Therefore the monument falls under Template:PD-ItalyGov since 1953. It was built before 1990, so no issue with US copyright.--Friniate (talk) 15:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: @Friniate: Please add the {{PD-ItalyGov}} template. --Yann (talk) 21:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Liliom Lewald.jpg

Ich wuerde dieses Foto (oder ein anderes von Liliom Lewald desselben Fotografen) gerne hochladen. Wieso wurde es geloescht? Wenn ich es jetzt versuche, noch einmal hochzuladen, ist dies nicht moeglich, weil die Datei in Wiki Commons bereits geloescht wurde.

Koennen sie mir helfen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meri Libra (talk • contribs) 11:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

@Meri Libra: Please provide a file name. Thanks, Yann (talk) 11:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Hey Yann, the file name is Liliom Lewald.jpg
Thank you! Meri Libra (talk) 11:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
@Meri Libra: Who is the photographer? Yann (talk) 12:00, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
His name is Niklas Berg, and I was speaking to him personnally about the publication Meri Libra (talk) 12:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
@Meri Libra: Speaking about permission is no-op. Free license permissions required for Wikimedia Commons publication must be in a written form. See VRT for the procedure. Ankry (talk) 13:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: as per Ankry. --Yann (talk) 15:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Neil Doljanchi 2024 622.jpg and all others from the series listed below

There is a proper and confirmed agreement from author and copyrigh owner for the following files:

See ticket:2024022710002569. It is a bit unusual case as the original agreement is in Hangul, but I managed to translate it using google translate + some help of upoloader to confirm identiy of copyright owner. Polimerek (talk) 14:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: @Polimerek: FYI. --Yann (talk) 21:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Jacques Harthong Gala ENSPS 2002.jpg undelete

Why have you deleted this photo of Jacques Harthong? I have take this photo at the ENSPS Gala in 2002. If it is because the photo is already used on the net, the use on the net are all related to the Telecom Physique Strasbourg Engineering (former ENSPS) school, where I have co-organized a conference and contribute to a paper dealing with Jacques Harthong. The rights on this photo are still mine. --Sylvain.Lecler (talk) 14:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC) 4 May 2024 Strasbourg Sylvain Lecler

@Sylvain.Lecler: Hi,
If you are the photographer, please upload the original file with EXIF data. Thanks, Yann (talk) 14:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: No answer, see above. --Yann (talk) 15:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:大小姐.JPG

This photo was really taken in 2010 when the celebrity "Da Xiaojie" visited Fahrenheit's "Too Hot" album signing event at Guangsan SOGO in Taichung, using a digital camera. It contains EXIF data. This is because the image on the Wikipedia page was removed at the time. So in the end, the image was nominated for deletion under the reason "Unused personal image". But in 2010, "Da Xiaojie" was already a celebrity, so how could it be nominated for deletion under this reason? --Czechtaxes (talk) 15:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

The quality is not good and there are other photos here of Frances & Aiko. Thuresson (talk) 18:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: per Thuresson. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Nauta-Puente-Paraiso.jpg

Please restore the following pages:

Reason: Recategorización de imagen con su respectiva fuente.

Recategorization of image with its respective source. ArticleAmazon (talk) 07:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@ArticleAmazon: If you are the photographer, could you please upload the original image with EXIF data? Thanks, Yann (talk) 08:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
The image in question was obtained from the official fan page of the regional government institution of Loreto-Peru. This photo was taken by the drone of the Institutional Image Office of the previous regional government during the period (January 1, 2019, to December 31, 2022).
Unfortunately, due to changes in the administration, the group that was in charge of the office is no longer available, and therefore, I do not have access to the image in its original format with the EXIF data. I have tried to locate the image in its original format, but I have been unsuccessful as the personnel who worked in the previous office are no longer available.
Since the new administration does not have information about the image, it is impossible for me to obtain the image in its original format with the EXIF data requested by Wikimedia Commons.
Please consider that the image in question was published on the official fan page of the government institution, which suggests that it was publicly shared as part of the government's official communication. Considering that the government is an entity that represents all citizens, I believe that the image should be considered public domain or at least be available under a license that allows its use.
I would greatly appreciate it if you could consider this situation.
Fan page source:
https://www.facebook.com/goreloretoperu/posts/pfbid02y4yKwFLGk134rQqd7ZyPKxEyjUuvYsgBQfN5nMcjiVLphy1NuPsjqwdGExCa4thzl ArticleAmazon (talk) 14:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
@ArticleAmazon: Then the copyright holder will have to confirm the permission via COM:VRT. Thanks, Yann (talk) 21:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: This image will be restored automatically, without further action by the uploader, if and when a free license is received, read, and approved at VRT. The current backlog at VRT is 7 days. . .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:45, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Dennis Delaney.jpg

This file (image) is owned by me and I would appreciate you undeleting. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delilahdean (talk • contribs) 19:30, 4 May 2024‎ (UTC)

@Delilahdean: If you are the photographer, please upload the original image with EXIF data. Otherwise the copyright holder has to send a permission for a free license via COM:VRT. Thanks, Yann (talk) 21:07, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: No answer, see above. --Yann (talk) 13:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:TWICE in concert, February 2022.jpg

I took this picture of kpop girl group TWICE while at their concert in February 2022. I do not know why my photo has been deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalvago (talk • contribs) 21:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

@Dalvago: If you are the photographer, please upload the original image with EXIF data. Thanks, Yann (talk) 21:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
@YannThanks for the reply, I just reuploaded it with data here: File:Close-up photo of TWICE performing.jpg Dalvago (talk) 22:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
No, that's not the original image. Stop fooling us. Yann (talk) 15:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 Oppose Not the original image with EXIF data. Thuresson (talk) 08:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 13:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Динамо Київ 1927 рік Сторінки історії.jpg

Добрий день, прошу відновити файл, файл створено мною особисто та надаю його у вільне користування. --Керрот (talk) 09:38, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

@Керрот: Where did the copyright holder of the book cover grant you a permission to make and publish its photo under a free license? Such permission must be in a written form and we need its copy. Ankry (talk) 22:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Per Ankry. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Adin Ross 2024.png

Please restore the following pages:

Reason: When this file was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, it was available from YouTube under the stated license of "Creative Commons Attribution license". Since then the YouTube channel changed the license but Creative Commons licenses are non-revocable in this manner. https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions&oldid=4299#What_if_I_change_my_mind.3F

The exact time the file was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons shows the video was under the Creative Commons Attribution license : https://web.archive.org/web/20240501055624/https://youtube.com/watch?v=UDM9p8kBIWI

Current YouTube video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UDM9p8kBIWI&t=1256s Cxhd (talk) 09:44, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: by Túrelio, license reviewed. --Yann (talk) 19:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Rafał Weber Poseł na Sejm RP.jpg

A proper agreement has been sent to VTRS. See ticket:2024043010004922 Polimerek (talk) 12:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: @Polimerek: Please fix the license, which is currently wrong. --Yann (talk) 13:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:PASCAL_BLANCHARD.png

Please undelete. We have permission per Ticket:2024050510005271. Thanks, --Mussklprozz (talk) 13:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done: @Mussklprozz: Please fix the license, which is currently wrong. Yann (talk) 13:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC). --Yann (talk) 13:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Md. Robiul Azam.jpg

I request the undeletion of this file as this page is created to introduce and inform people of a personality whom I, as well as many of the people of Bangladesh, recognize as an important personality for his contributions to Bangladesh's social standards as well as his blogs posted on various newspapers. I believe that in the previous upload, no credible citations were included but if proper citations can be added, it will be easy to prove the credibility of the person the page is about. --Muhammad A. Saman (talk) 08:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose The biography included with the image is out of scope for Commons. It is also likely out of scope for WP. In any case, the image is a formal portrait and the subject claims to be the photographer. That seems unlikely. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:44, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello Jim, I understand what you're saying, but are biographies out of scope for both commons and WP? I knew biographies are within the scope of WP which is why I wanted to add this biography to WP, also the formal portrait is not photographed by me but I took permission of the owner to publish it on WP for free. Can you please help me regarding where I can upload this such that it's within the scopes of WP, and also what types of citations I should add to this article to make it credible? Thank you!! Muhammad A. Saman (talk) 08:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Naming the wrong author is a nuisance and creates confusion here. Please do not do it again.
As I said above, there are two questions here. The first is whether the person is sufficiently notable to have an article on one of the WP projects. That is up to the editors there. Only if the answer is "yes" is the image is in scope here.
The second question is the copyright for the image. In order for it to be restored here, the actual photographer must send a free license using VRT. Note that the subject of an image very rarely has the right to freely license it. That right is held by the photographer in almost all cases. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, Jim. The free license agreement for the media work (Person in portrait) has been sent to the VRTs as per Ticket:2024050610009597 and the work depicting the media has been fully authored by me. Can you please check if the criteria are fulfilled or not? Muhammad A. Saman (talk) 19:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I have removed {{PermissionTicket}} posted by User:Muhammad A. Saman. Since he is not a member of VRT, it was not valid. There remains the question of whether the subject is in scope for one of the language Wikipedias. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose Not just "probably not notable person" (uncertain scope/unused selfie), but already known engaging in enwiki promotional editing for them (enwiki disruption, and now we see commons disruption/promotion too). See also Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2023-09#File:Md. Robiul Azam.jpg. DMacks (talk) 20:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: per DMacks. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:11, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Сторінка 124 Книги Динамо Сторінки історії.jpg

Добрий день, прошу Вас відновити файл, він створений мною особисто, цей файл важливий так як описує спортивні здобутки людини, я надаю його у вільне користування--Керрот (talk) 09:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose Two problems here. First, clips from magazines should generally be cited, with the text included in an article. Second, did you really write the text and take the photographs seen here? .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:37, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: as per Jim. --Yann (talk) 20:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Estación_Danubio_Marzo_2024.jpg

Good afternoon, the deletion of this file seems unfair to me. It's part of a photograph taken by myself. Therefore, I request that the image be restored since it does not infringe copyright. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharlesT854 (talk • contribs) 19:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC) (UTC)

Pinging @Yann and Minorax: users involved in the DR.
@CharlesT854: Please, upload the original photo from your camera with complete EXIF info as your authorship evidence, or follow instructions provided at COM:VRT. We must carefully review files uploaded by users who have previously uploaded copyright-infringing content. Ankry (talk) 22:12, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Weak  Support. The uploader should prove that at least some of their uploads were taken by them. Yann (talk) 07:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: No answer. --Yann (talk) 16:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:نقاشی دیوار مربوط به هنرمند سبک اسیدریلیک توحید ابوالحسنی.jpg

بنده ۳ سال مقاله رو انتشار دادم با عنوان سبک نقاشی اسید ریلیک و به تازگی تصویری را از یک نقاشی دیواری اثر هنری خودم را برای درک بهتر مخاطب انتشار دادم که ناقض قوانین کپی رایت نبوده و عکاسی با بالاترین کیفیت انجام شده ولی چون هنگام عکسبرداری نور بلک لایت روشن هست عکس این اثر کمی غیر واضح دیده میشود از همه خواهش میکنم برای انتشار این اثر و درک بهتر مخاطب اثر رو تایید کنن مچکرم — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tohidabolhasani3 (talk • contribs) 09:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose Out of scope personal "artwork". On Wikimedia Commons, we only accept artworks by notable people. Please read COM:SCOPE. Thanks, Yann (talk) 13:39, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: per Yann. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Tarjeta Electoral Partido MUD UNIDAD.png

Buenas, necesito que algún administrador restaure el Logo del Partido Mesa de la Unidad Democrática este logo forma parte del {{PD-textlogo}} el Logo aparece un símbolo la manito pero tipo escritura con los colores amarillo, rojo y azul según la fuente (https://twitter.com/manuelrosalesg/status/956712085848772609) según las opiniones del Usuario:Jameslwoodward y User:Koavf en el Commons:Help desk#Too Simple el Logo esta por encima del umbral de Originalidad (Threshold of Originality) AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose We have no information on the Threshold of Originality in Venezuela. I think it is far above the threshold in the UK and possibly above that in the USA, so in accordance with PCP we should not keep it. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

 I withdraw my nomination OK, tienes razón, por favor cierra el UDR. AbchyZa22 (talk) 15:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Complex enough to be copyrighted. --Bedivere (talk) 17:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)


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File:Example.jpg I use it for fair use

I use this movie photo in fair use for educational purposes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uhhh..what? (talk • contribs) 16:20, 7 May 2024‎ (UTC)

 Not done: Not a valid request. --Bedivere (talk) 17:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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File:Louvain-la-Neuve Fresque2.JPG

The file was deleted in 2008 because there was no Freedom of Panorama in Belgium but, since 2016, the Freedom of Panorama has been put in place. So the file could therefore be undeleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:6a8:3081:6f07:cc40:87f:57bd:7c78 (talk • contribs) 13:19, 8 May 2024‎ (UTC)

Procedural close, undeleted in 2016. Thuresson (talk) 15:05, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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