User talk:Jkadavoor/Archive 1

Nice pictures

Hi Jkadavoor, Thank you for sharing so many lovely images with us. I like your pictures very much. I do have one suggestion though. You tend to crop your images very tightly around the subject. I suggest that you leave a bit more of the background around the subject as a frame - I think that w:Lead room in front of an animal improves the composition, as does a little space in general. Anyway, thanks again for contributing your photos to the project, they're much appreciated. --99of9 (talk) 11:36, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more. The tight crops are very aesthetically unpleasing. The subjects need space to breathe. For me, the tight cropping makes the pictures look unnatural, as if the subject was pinned down to the picture margins, whereas in reality it is a moving creature that was frozen in time. Giving the subject the space gives us the natural feeling that it is a moving creature. It's such a shame because otherwise your pictures are so good... please consider this seriously. Cheers, Gidip (talk) 19:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Lovely Image

Many thanks see here [1] Notafly (talk) 07:55, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I am looking through the rest of your pics to (slowly) illustrate the Sri Lanka lists.These are beautiful photos.Notafly (talk) 08:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I am sure you will appreciate the delicacy of this work [2] also on the Sri Lanka pages Notafly (talk) 08:40, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jkadavoor

Thanks Thank you for yor crop suggestion regarding my image at QIC. I try my best to provide more space around the subject after I got lot of comments regarding the crop but this is an uncropped image as I captured. Regards, Jee - Jkadavoor (d) 13:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Very good job. Congratulations. I like very much your images of insects and plants, I find them very good quality and nice to look. Please don't think bad of my remarks, but a little more place around the butterflies (if it's possible) will make very good also. I wait for your next photos and Good luck. --Moonik (talk) 13:30, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Malayalam Loves Wikimedia

താങ്കളുടെ ചിത്രങ്ങൾ വളരെ നന്നായിട്ടുണ്ട്, മലയാളം വിക്കിമീഡിയയെ സ്നേഹിക്കുന്നു-2 എന്ന പദ്ധതിയിൽ അംഗമാകാൻ താങ്കളെ ക്ഷണിക്കുന്നു. അഭിപ്രായം അറിയിക്കുമല്ലോ? സസ്നേഹം --Kiran Gopi (talk) 10:19, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

വളരെ നന്ദി, അങ്ങനെ ചെയ്താൽ മതി. 2012 ഫെബ്രുവരി 15 നു ശെഷം അപ്ലോഡ് ചെയ്ത ചിത്രങ്ങളിലും ആ ഫലകം ചേർക്കാവുന്നതാണ്. അത് ഞാൻ ചെയ്തുകൊള്ളാം--Kiran Gopi (talk) 10:42, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

 Done--Kiran Gopi (talk) 11:32, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Sharpened image

Hello friend how are you today? Look, I checked on the new version. Unfortunately, your software created a lot of noise, more strictly speaking huge jpeg artifacts on the background. The picture looks worse to me now than before. What software are you using? When I do sharpening I add very little on the whole picture and the do some selective sharpening over the subject. Otherwise you can sharpen the whole image a lot, and then do noise reduction with layers on photoshop, only on the background, obtaining a beautiful smooth BG, and detailed subject. Hope you understand what I am saying. I recommend you to download photoshop 5, or adobe lightroom, as well as some tutorials from the internet. This will help you make some wonderful pictures, not only now but for the rest of your photographic career. Good luck bro! --Paolo Costa (talk) 16:10, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

• • Looks a little better now. But it's great if you'll try Adobe, it is a powerful tool. You'll see the huge difference :) --Paolo Costa (talk) 11:47, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Focus stacking

You are taking excellent photos of insects. but because insects are very small, they are not completely focused. Please use the technique of focus stacking. In a nutshell, take many photos of the insect where each photo completely focuses one part of the insect. Then use a focus stacking software(see the wikipedia page on focus stacking linked above) to combine the focused parts of individual images so that the final image has all parts in focus.--Gauravjuvekar (talk) 13:04, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Higher res

Could you take images at a higher resolution setting? Your current camera model(Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ28) supports resolution up to 10MP however most of your photos are around 2.5MP. Generally higher resolution photos are preferable. 2MP is the minimum requirement for QIs and FPs however a higher resolution image is more beneficial(for high res prints, viewing on large screens). See Commons:Image_guidelines#Quality_and_featured_photographic_images.--Gauravjuvekar (talk) 11:19, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is because I'm using the extended zoom feature while capturing small subjects. I think it is equivalent to use TCs along with SLRS. If I avoided that feature I got plenty of space around the subject, but less subject details (when checked in 1:1 zoom view in computer). I have different options like 3MP, 5MP, 7MP and entire 10MP that can I choose based on the size of the subjects.

And I use a closeup glass DCR250 while capturing very small subjects from a closer distance (just 4 inch). It is good but cause vignetting above 5MP because of the LA3 adapter that connects them.

A lot of limitations that I need to overcome by procuring pro grade tools. :)

Regards, -- Jkadavoor (talk) 06:42, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Name in italics

Hello, your images are excellent and I know the difficulty of getting good images "in vivo". You occasionally forget to put the name in italics. I put my images on a strip which is very handy I'd be happy to share with you. Example File: Anartia amathea MHNT.jpg. Good day. :) --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 07:41, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. I am a bit new to QIC and just learning the wiki syntax. I like your works and thing they are very useful for people like me, depending wiki to identify species.

BTW, could you please help me to answer my question on how to contribute images to VI : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Photography_critiques#Junonia_almana_.28Peacock_Pansy.29

I don't have composite images like you; only different ones showing sides? Is they OK as a set for VI or not?

Regards, -- Jkadavoor (talk) 07:53, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

This is a very good idea, which I support! --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:57, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I just added them here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Valued_image_candidates#Pending_valued_image_set_candidates

Please check and let me know any corrections needed; the terms described there are bit complicated for me to understand. Regards, ---- Jkadavoor (talk) 07:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

OK, I have reduced the scope to the subject being treated by the SET. I put the name of the butterfly in italics :) --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 08:20, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, a lot. ---- Jkadavoor (talk) 08:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

My attempt

Hello, Jeevan! Why this craving for oval photos? It seems that empty corners of the photo do not look very aesthetically pleasing. I think the dark corners is better not to remove and re-touching (an updated version of the site). --Aleks G 00:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

FP nomination

Hi Jkadavoor! Just thought I should let you know --Jovian Eye _storm 03:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you, Jovianeye Jkadavoor (talk) 05:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

File:Jamides bochus by kadavoor.jpg

This is a great picture. Nicely captured. I love your work so please keep it up even if they reject one now and then. Saffron Blaze (talk) 13:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks, Saffron for your encouragements. They are in a wrong angle (as in the image I had given as other version) so I try to insult them a bit expecting they a make a short flight and land somewhere nearby. But to my surprise, they climbed on my finger and continue their job. :) It was difficult to hold the camera in one hand and take a shot; so not much sharpness. :( Jkadavoor (talk) 05:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

• I was wondering how they ended up on your finger :) You have a happy Easter too with lots of butterflies! Cheers. User: Saffron Blaze 09:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Unnatural edges

Hi, Jkadavoor. I speak English with the aid of a automatic translator. You can see two notes in the image. I don't know if the correct words can be "unnatural edges", perhaps could be better "rare edges". When you want, you can delete the notes.

Nice comment. The commentary about the history of the image is nice. Perhaps the image could be FP (with this comment), but it would have to fix those edges IMO. Thanks and sorry--Miguel Bugallo 09:22, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

If you want, I can change "Decline" by "Discuss"--Miguel Bugallo 09:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

If you fix the edges, I think that I could promote the image to QI--Miguel Bugallo 09:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

OK, Miguel; I understand. I too from a non native English speaking country. So sometimes our words seem harsh even though we don't mean it. Sorry too. And regarding edit: I'm weak on edit; so depending other friends for it. Here Aleks G done the retouch; so I will inform him. Thanks. Jkadavoor (talk) 15:46, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy Easter

Happy Easter

Happy Easter for you to, I wish you the best and I hope to see more and more your magnificent photos of the butterflies. --Moonik (talk) 08:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

File:Jamides bochus by kadavoor.jpg

Hello, Jeevan! As there are a lot of unsharp areas, especially at protagonists of the photo, this photo hardly can treats the category QI. I will a little correct a photo, but I doubt that there will be a success (the file is updated). --Aleks G 22:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Ascalaphidae

Sorry no.Try sending the pic to Dr. John D Oswald in the U.S.A E-mail Address: j-oswald@tamu.edu Robert Notafly (talk) 08:48, 10 April 2012 (UTC) If that fails ask me again Best regards Robert aka Notafly (talk) 08:48, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks Robert; he is already using my file in the Lacewing Digital Library project but unable to identify the ID. Regards, Jee Jkadavoor (talk) 04:54, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrol given

Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have granted autopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically marked as "reviewed". This has no effect on your editing, it is simply intended to make it easier for users that are monitoring Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones like yours. In addition, the Flickr upload feature and an increased number of batch-uploads in UploadWizard, uploading of freely licensed MP3 files, overwriting files uploaded by others and an increased limit for page renames per minute are now available to you. Thank you. Morning Sunshine (talk) 10:29, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks, Morning Sunshine. Jkadavoor (talk) 04:50, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

The Butterfly Barnstar

		The Butterfly Barnstar
		I hereby award Jeevan Jose a.k.a. User:Jkadavoor this Barnstar for a lots of very successful and nice photos of Butterflies and other insects. Well done! -- George Chernilevsky talk 05:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks, a lot. Jkadavoor (talk) 08:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Paolo's edit

Please remove the piece of spider-web (using a clone or heal tool). It's just a bit distracting and it's not really clear what it is due to the DOF. --Claritas (talk) 14:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Dogmatic assessment ?

Hi Jkadavoor.

First, I would like to congratulate you for your very nice pictures, going better and better IMO.

Then, as we both are not native english speakers, I hope we will understand eachother well enough.

You asked me about a certain word I used in a review in FPC. I wish to give you an explanation, and I prefer do this on your talk page. It is better than in the review page, in my opinion (because of size of answer, too...).

"Dogmatic assessment in my opinion" is not an insult, and was obviously for the assessment, not for the reviewer.

What happens here: we have to judge a picture, not Exif Data. Exif Data give infos about the picture, but, in my opinion, should not be used as a reason for an oppose vote. At the first time, the reviewer does not give any opinion about the picture. He writes: "f/2.8 at 1/3200s under such sunny conditions is not acceptable". "Not acceptable" ? Yes, this is dogmatic.

Is this picture well composed and balanced ? Yes. Has visually good exposure ? Yes. With a good light and vivid colors ? Yes. Has educational/encyclopedical/historical value ? Yes. Is it sharp and "crisp" enough ? Yes. Has "Wow" factor ? Dont'know, but it is not "boring" for sure, as it is an unusual picture, we are lucky to have in "Commons". Well, One can dislike it, and could freely oppose, but oppose only because of the Exif Data (not present everytime, for instance under every picture like panoramas, stitched pictures, or only by the will of the author) makes that reviews could be made by a bot. That's why I say it is a "dogmatic" assessment. It was not an "argument", but a "comment about a comment".

As for Saffron Blaze, the reasons of his leaving are very more complex than you think maybe, and are due more to conflicts he faced in the english wikipedia than to problems he met in "Commons".

I agree with you, we have to be very careful with words, especially when used in a non native language. Nevertheless, I think we have to say what we think, freely, without "own-censorship". Every "oppose" or "decline" vote is hard for the photographer/uploader/nominator, and must be written very carefuly.

In my opinion (again), the reviewer understood this in a second time, as he tried after that to provide better (?) reasons for opposing... I (globally) agree with Colin.

That's what I wished to say to you, dear JKadavoor, in order to avoid misunderstanding between us two.

Sorry for bad english !

Cheers, and best wishes from (sunny) Paris, --Jebulon (talk) 15:11, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jebulon:

Thank you for the message and the appreciation.

Yes; I'm from Kerala, a small part of India with its own native language, Malayalam. Language is always a problem in Commons because words have different tones and they sometimes feel very harsh even though we (non native English speakers) do not intent it. I faced similar issues in Flickr too.

I agree with you that it is not good to support or oppose depending only on the technical matters. My only disagreement was on 'dogmatic' even though you mean the assessment, not the reviewer. I think Colin told the same idea of you, but very lightly so that the reviewer didn't (may not; I'm not sure) feel hurt. It is the problem of us (non native English speakers); we tell the matter with little words that are not enough to explain what is in our mind and may cause problems.

I think the reason explained by Rama for F2.8 is valid.

As for Saffron Blaze, I was away for more than one week and didn't understand what happened in between. I followed the broken link and see just 'Tired of the petty politics... retiring'. After your message I checked his last nomination (Castle) that I had already supported. There was an oppose from a person who is not a frequent visitor of that page, as he complained. Anyway it is sad if we missed a college.

Thanks, Jebulon, I have no problem with you but still suggest you to be light while 'commenting on a comment' because not many people take it light. :)

Feel free to use any words on my works (I really like to say 'us' than 'mine'.) and comments with enough freedom; I really appreciated it.

Sorry for bad English! :)

Cheers, and best wishes from Kerala (The God's own country) -- Jkadavoor (talk) 08:18, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Re:The face is too dark

I understand now. The problem is the translation: In Spanish, Galician or Portuguesh, there are two verbs ("ser" and "estar"), but in English only one (to be). If I translate with a automatic translator "la cara está oscura" (= the face is underexposed), the translation can be "the face is dark" (="la cara es oscura").

On the other hand, "oscura", in spanish or galician language, is a shade of a color, never the name of a race. The hair or the skin can be "oscuros" (=dark) regardless of race. Sorry--Miguel Bugallo 21:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Invitation - Featured picture voting

Dear Jkadavoor,

Thank you very much for your last participating in a featured picture voting about a musical instrument. I would kindly ask you if you would like to give your vote (and comments) in this featured picture voting about an upright piano of mahogany "Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Steinway & Sons upright piano, model K-52 (mahogany finish), manufactured at Steinway's factory in New York City.jpg" before it ends on 23 Jun 2012 at 08:07:03 (UTC). The rules says that there has to be at least 7 supporting votes and a ratio of supporting/opposing votes at least 2/1 (a two-thirds majority).[3]

Thanks!

Yours sincerely, --Hereiamfriends (talk) 08:43, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Please please upgrade your equipment. The equipment you are currently using is really holding you back. Once you upgrade, you will have three or five times as many featured pictures, and they will have much better detail and quality. Maybe you can even earn some money from selling your photos. Please make the most of this potential. All the best, Gidip (talk) 08:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC).

BTW, you can add yourself to COM:MOP. Gidip (talk) 08:07, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks Gidip, for your encouraging words. I will; as early as possible. BTW, my all uploads now are from my archives; hardly taking any photos now. Regards, Jee. Jkadavoor (talk) 08:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Comment on CR

Hi Jkadavoor,

I noticed you edit on the controversial CR about "some hoverfly on some flower in the carrot/parley family" :-) Just wanted to inform you that I saw your response (and responded). I have the feeling that maybe you misunderstand my argument. I am not saying that all living organisms shall always be specified to the species level. Rather to lowest taxonomic level where they are visually distinct. You are right that there are many cases where genus level is the lowest level of visual distinction, as at species level there are no visible or only very subtle visual differences. But in this case, different species of the hoverfly appear to be very distinct (from the width, and color of the bands on the body) and for the plant we are as far up as the family level. You can probably point out cases, where pictures have been promoted, where the same thing could be said. Well, QIC is a light wieght process where errors can happen, but just because such errors have been done does not mean we should continue doing them. We should try to learn and improve and not just sink into a "minimum effort" approach trying to colllect as many badges as possible without keeping our standards high. We are Commons after all and not some random picture site.

Now that I am here, I would also like to say that I admire you collection of butterfly pics. Considering your equipment you have pressed it to the max within the limits of your sensor. Well done.

Best wishes from Denmark,

--Slaunger (talk) 16:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Slaunger:

Thank you for the message. I have no issues with any particular users; but don't like the quarrels in the QI/FP pages. Here Biopics suggested the the ID to ComputerHotline but he ignored. It made him/her angry and he/her started declining all of his images. I'm not interested to interfere that issue but think there may be a language problem.

On the other side, it is a common practice that we (I'm frequently doing it on butterflies) add proper categories to other people's images and here also it is possible. As Archaeodontosaurus told, the ID of plant is not important here. And as Llez said, determining the species is often not possible in the living species like Diptera. So I repeat as I told there that I prefer to find the ID to the lowermost level as much as possible but it must not be the species in all cases. Further, if we make species level as a must, it will force people to make wild guess without proper reference that degrade the integrity of Commons.

Anyway I edited the description, added to category; included other views in other versions. Please don't take it as an offence; my intention is to close that issue.

Regards, Jee Jkadavoor (talk) 09:17, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jkadavoor,

Sorry to interfere, but as you know, I'm French, like Computerhotline. So we both speak the same language... In many occasions, I've asked this user for improvements of meaningless file names, poor descriptions pages, different names for multiples nominations in QIC and so on... I (almost) never received any answer... So it is not a language problem... Sometimes, it happens that goodwill users (always the goodwill users...) are a bit tired, feel alone a little, and decide to apply our rules (only our rules) more strictly...

Only my tho cents. Friendly, --Jebulon (talk) 10:01, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jebulon,

Is it so? I didn't know all these things; will try to avoid interfering any further. Regards, Jee Jkadavoor (talk) 10:23, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jee, thanks for your reply. Yes we do misundestand each other then. I do not want to require species level id in general but id at a taxonomic level where organisms are visually distinct. Somtimes this is at the genus level, sometimes at species level, sometimes at other levels. Of course we should help each other categorizing and identifying when we can. I do not take offense by anyone including you improving file pages, on the contrary. My point is just that it is not the responsibility of the individual reviewer to correct things, if information is missing. If they can it is of course fine. But the responsibility lies at the nominator. Prior to nomination. --Slaunger (talk) 09:34, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. And thank again for your attempt to close that issue. Regards, Jkadavoor (talk) 08:44, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

File:Cucumis maderaspatanus by kadavoor.jpg

ഇതു ചുണ്ട അല്ലേ?--Praveen:talk 04:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

• അല്ല; ഇത് ഒരു കാട്ടു വള്ളിച്ചെടി ആണ്. കോവക്ക പോലെ ഇരിക്കും. പക്ഷെ ഉരുണ്ടതാണ്. -- Jkadavoor (talk) 06:54, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

About two files on FP page

First of all, thanks for your butterflies photos and for your attention to my attempts photographying flowers. Thanks too for your help this morning concerning the identification of the Croscomia picture I downloaded yesterday. I'm neither a biologist, nor a specialist, but an old man who tries to learn how to photograph flowers properly and how to identify them, so as they can be used on Wikipedia. So I hope a biologist will help me. -- I began to upload photos on the QI, FP and VI pages in May and I didn't know AzaToth. I still don't kow his photographic works (which must be brilliant according to the standards he applies to other people's photos). In France we would say « he is searching hair on eggs » ; that's probably why he uses a huge magnifying glass ! Anyway I'm not sure he's wrong about my Croscomia picture because he's not always wrong... but his reviews have to be sorted very carefully ! -- Another point, more interesting IMO : the two files uploaded by ComputerHotline on the FP page are two maps. The first one was drawned and printed in the XIXth century : it's a city map of Belfort, a historic town situated in the East of France. The second one is about the castle of the same town and it was made in 1790 (the castle itself was built in the XVIIth century by a famous military architect). -- I hope this post will help you. -- Sorry for my English (I used to teach French). -- Thanks again and best regards. JLPC (talk) 09:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info about the 2 FPCs.

I too not a biologist; but came to know that the cultvar should be placed between two single quotes. Eg: Tabernaemontana divaricata 'Flore Pleno'

AzaToth is a good reviewer; but we can't expect that much quality for QI. Thanks. Jkadavoor (talk) 09:37, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Your question about the butterfly in FPC

Hi Jkadavoor,

Sorry for beeing so late in answering.

I don't know nothing about butterflies, and it is not my "cup of tea".

I just admire how you (and others) show us the marvels of Nature !

So, I don't know if the colors of your buttefly is good or not.

It looks "greenish" to me, but it is only an opinion.

But what I'm sure of, is that you were not insulted by Alchemist-hp. In my opinion, because like you I'm not a native english speaker, nothing in the words he used is insulting. If I have had receive this comment for one of my picture, I've never would have felt insulted. As I know this fellow, he is a very good, mellow and fine user here in "Commons". And a good photographer too. By the way, do you know he is the winner of the "2011 picture of the year" contest ?--Jebulon (talk) 15:40, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Jebulon; so he may talked about a green cast. I'm sure that I didn't oversaturated it (rallly a bit unsaturated). Any way I don't know how to corect such things.

"Greenish" and "green" are very different words but I know he is also a non-native English speaker.

Yes; I appreciated him on his talk page just before/after you!

Regards, Jee Jkadavoor (talk) 03:39, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Philodicus sp.?

Hi Jkadavoor, I just noticed your question on WikiProject_Insects. Just a tip: for Asilidae related questions try to ask de:user:Dysmachus (but now are holidays here in Germany). Another great source for id of these flies is the Asilidae Forum at diptera.info. Regards, --Pristurus (talk) 09:48, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Pristurus. I do ask him. I posted at diptera.info but didn't get a reply so far. I got help on other specimens though. Thanks. Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 09:52, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello

Hello my friend! I've been traveling, as I wrote on my user page, don't know if you noticed on top, while I was away. I just got back and I am editing some pictures from my trip to europe, I'll be soon donating more pictures to the community and return to vote on FPC. I just need some time to rearrange some stuff, but I'll be active again soon. Thanks for your message, see you soon on FPC. Regards, --Paolo Costa (talk) 19:39, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Greater Crimson Glider and Mycalesis

Congratulations on another well deserved picture of the day. It is a superb portrait of an insect not a picture. I also added overdue id notes to your "Mycalesis". In this case (as in many) we should say it is impossible to say that your id is incorrect, therefore it is correct until someone proves otherwise. Best regards Notafly (talk) 19:32, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

• Hi Robert

  Thanks for your appreciation; and thanks for the id notes. I wish more participation of people like you (who know the subject well) in the COM:FPC. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 06:46, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Picture of the day

Congratulations Maestro[4] Notafly (talk) 10:15, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!!! (Maestro? ) -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 10:22, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Review QIs

Could you please review File:Icosahedron cell diagram.svg and File:Truncated icosidodecahedron flat.svg at QIC(submitted on 8 Aug)? Thanks --Gauravjuvekar (talk) 17:40, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Sad news

I clicked on the link you've left under your beautiful butterfly. Really sad news. Difficult to tell you anything, from this part of the earth where people a re complaining just because it's only a bit hot... -- One word : friendly. --JLPC (talk) 16:56, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, for the very kind words. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 03:44, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Jkadavoor, thanks for your support. And love you bug pictures, I took the time to look at some of them... keep on it! --Tomascastelazo (talk) 20:28, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

• Yes; this time. But the only oppose in your last FP is mine. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 08:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Durga Burdwan 03 10 2011.JPG and a request

Hello Jkadavoor. I have seen your images on FP and QI. You take some brilliant photos. I'm here for a request, your this image is the picture of the day for 22nd October 2012. I want to make this picture of the day for 22nd October 2012. Because 22nd October is the main day of Durga festival (Mahastami as said in bengali) for this year. Would you be kind enough to swap you picture to another date. Thank you and regards. -- JDP90 (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes; you can move it another date (and let me know). -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 08:41, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I have changed the image but not able to change caption and description. Could you help me in this? -- JDP90 (talk) 09:06, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Done (just click on the link English; then edit). To which date you moved the grey pansy? Or should I? -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 09:13, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

I thought of moving it to the previous day (21st Oct). Yes, you can do it. -- JDP90 (talk) 09:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Done; thanks. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 09:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

There is a Malayalam description for the page which has not changed. I cannot do it as I don't know Malayalam. -- JDP90 (talk) 10:26, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

I think the translation to other languages is done by other people. You may contact Kaldari for further help. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 16:25, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

I saw in that page User:Praveenp have made the Malayalam description. That page cannot be left blank once created. So it should be changed as the image has changed. I'm thinking of contacting User:Praveenp as he created the translation page. Thanks for your help. -- JDP90 (talk) 16:38, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thanks for your help yesterday. JDP90 (talk) 15:58, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Happy Onam! I'm on Onam holidays; so not much regular here for a week. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 03:39, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Contact

Hi JKadavoor, How can I contact you ? Can you put a blank mail on naveenpf@wikimedia.in -- Naveenpf (talk) 16:02, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes; or you can contact me at Special:EmailUser/Jkadavoor. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 08:35, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Interesting Quote

Hello Jkadavoor,
I like the quote by Saint Maria. Nice to see there are others in Commons who love God --Eternal-Entropy (talk) 08:38, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

august, 29

i know this day is important for you. A good sign: the Picture of the Day is by you ! Nice coïncidence !--Jebulon (talk) 23:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Wow! I for got it. Thanks. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 01:32, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

A SQUARE FOR YOU

	Square of Staring
	Just for you :P Heflox (talk) 14:36, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

A WikiLove for you!

	The Butterfly Award
	A butterfly award for you by a fellow Malayalam Wikimedian who has no clue about taking pictures. Congrats for Neopithecops_zalmora_in_love_by_Kadavoor making its way to the Picture of the Day! Keep snapping! Netha Hussain (talk) 15:20, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks, Netha; appreciating your contributions in Wikipedia. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 05:02, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jee

From "Jeb" to "Jee", only one letter different...funny...

Hello my dear friend from mysterious India.

About COM:MOP, when I see the wonderful quality of pictures there, I think I'm not worthy to deserve this honor... I'll wait until my 50th FP, then, maybe, I'll consider to join the club...

Anyway, I'm not very interested, because of... a lot of reasons...Well, no matter...

Did you have a nice Onam festival, and a happy wedding anniversary ?--Jebulon (talk) 09:15, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes you are right ! When I was young, we learned at school about the list "Pondichéry, Chandernagor, Yanaon, Karikal & Mahé, les cinq comptoirs de l'Inde". I did not notice where Mahé took place...--Jebulon (talk) 09:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Insect and flies

Thank you for correcting me in species names of some of my uploads. Can you please provide some useful links about specific species? I have downloaded the references provided by you for dragonflies and damselflies, can you be kind enough to provide me links on other insects too. Thank you. -- JDP90 (talk) 09:55, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• I'm good only in Lepidoptera and Odonata. Further, it is very difficult to identify trueflies and truebugs to species level by seeing a photo; they require microscopic inspection by the experts. But we can post our images at [5] or the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Insects to get some feedback up-to genus level, if we are very lucky. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 05:17, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for being very helpful. -- JDP90 (talk) 08:56, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Question

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This photo was noimnated by myself which ended only half a day ago with 4 supports including yours, 2 opposes and 1 neutral but the picture was not promoted. I see you have re nominated it after just half a day after editing it. As this was first nominated by me having only closed half a day ago I feel that you could have given me some advice on what I could do to change it and to make it better rather than re producing it and nominating it yourself. I feel a little disappointed. 8( --Danesman1 (talk) 21:10, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

• Replied on the nomination page. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 05:33, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• No worries my friend, no hard feelings, all is a learning curve for me and any help and guidence i receive is greatly appreciated. I am really impressed by your butterfly photos on your home page. Perhaps you could help me please, there was a photo that I put up for nomination and was advised to crop it slightly to make it better, please can you tell me how I go about saving a photo which I have nominated although not uploaded by me, cropping it and adding it to commons

Thanks for your help 8) --Danesman1 (talk) 19:53, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• • You can 'right click' on the 'Full resolution' link under the file and select 'Save link as...' to save the file in your computer. You can click on the 'Upload a new version of this file' under 'File history' to upload the new file after editing. Also you can upload the new edit as a separate file and specify ‎it as a derivative work, showing original work as 'other version' and giving credit to 'original author'. Please refer Commons:Policies and guidelines. (I noticed a discussion about uploading new versions over other user's files; but I don't know if any decision is taken.) -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 05:02, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thank you for nominating File:Attacus atlas London Zoo 01118-2.jpg Nevit Dilmen (talk) 18:26, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Re:File:Prodasineura verticalis, Burdwan, West Bengal, India 13 09 2012.jpg

From this link I can see that it is very similar to my picture. The fly in my picture is not 20mm as my previous one but it is slightly larger (30 to 35mm). I'm really having problems identifying these. I've misidentified this image before, while you corrected this in the QIC page that it could be black bambootail. From the download link you provided to me for damselflies, the size, colours are very similar to the Prodasineura verticalis female and please see this. I don't have a FB account. Could you please help me in this? I know I'm a bit of problem to you, always demanding help. --JDP90 (talk) 10:05, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

• You are right if it is a big one. Small damselflies and butterflies (like skippers) are very confusing to me too; I always collect expert opinions from different sources(mainly from friends in Flickr). Recently Shyamal from en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Insects invited me to Facebook group which is also a good source of knowledge. Feel free to signup and join there too. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 13:49, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you. I'll try to collect expert opinion on confusing cases. But before collecting expert opinion I'll contact and ask you first . --JDP90 (talk) 11:18, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

left answer...

Hi Jkadavoor, left answer in my tall page... Regards! --Tomascastelazo (talk) 14:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Boabdil

Hi Jee,

I am a bit hurted by your comment in QIC, even if I thank you for your support.

This gate is unique as a symbol for european history.

We have so many uninteresting or similar pictures to assess (like bugs or damsels, anonymous houses, flat landscapes by dozens) that I try every time to give the more informations I can, about my pictures, when I have something cultural or historical to share with reviewers.

"Commons" is a repository for media files, to be used in an encyclopedical envitonment. So, I give informations in the file page, or in the nomination, in order to justify why I've uploaded this one: not only to collect another QI label (I've the second greatest collection in Commons, so, one more, one less...), but because it is a little significant. We have to be the more precise we can.

Ok, for this one, the info should take a better place in the file description page, but it is so...

If you are not interested (you have the right to), then do not read the captions, and just open the file and judge the picture.

For my part, as often I could, I will continue to provide informations about the context of my pictures.

Have a good day,--Jebulon (talk) 22:17, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jee !

Nice misunderstanding indeed !!

No more problem !!--Jebulon (talk) 12:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

File:Pantala flavescens (4) Burdwan, West Bengal, India 04 10 2012.JPG

Hello Jeevan, I have taken some photos of the dragonfly. I'm not sure about its identification. Is it Pantala flavescens male? --JDP90 (talk) 09:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

• Ditch Jewel (Brachythemis contaminata)- female [6] Very good work! -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 09:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. -- JDP90 (talk) 10:05, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Re:File:Catopsilia pomona male, Burdwan, West Bengal, India 14 09 2012.jpg

Thanks for checking, I'll add a rename tag. Well, about the lens, a macro lens a bit expensive to me (as I do not earn anything, I just completed my M.Sc. degree. I got my camera after 4 years of savings). I have my 50mm lens and I recently bought close up attachments (a set of +1, +2 and +4) which are not very costly. The images are with +4 close up attachment. I'm also happy with the photographs. With this attachment I have to go very very close to the subject sometimes causing them flying away. I think a macro lens has that advantage that helps keeping subjects at fair distance (I wish I had a macro lens). I was inspired by people like you, Richard Bartz, Archaeodontosaurus, H. Krisp, Böhringer and started this kind of photography and now loving it. I told a lot, hope you don't mind. --JDP90 (talk) 17:55, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

• I too using a Raynox 250 closeup glass with my pany zoom camera for small subjects. Will upgrade when enough money. :) -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 05:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

A very informative image

Your photo of an unknown (to me) and delightful little bee-fly really appealed and had all the easily seen features. So I used it when revamping this page [7] Warm regards Notafly (talk) 19:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Revenge Vote, really?

I am more amused than insulted by your claim that I opposed your image in a vengeful act. I consider myself a macro photographer foremost and so even though I usually don't comment on nominations, a macro picture usually tempts me. For that particular image, I am sure if you were to ask a photographer like Richard Bartz, he would say the same. --Muhammad (talk) 08:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

• May be; but the date-stamp says so. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 09:24, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

• Hehe, so now it's my fault that you nominated your picture one hour after opposing mine? You give me too much credit :) --Muhammad (talk) 09:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

• Take it light, anyway. BTW, How is India? Are you in Bangalore now? -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 09:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

• Yes still in India for the next few months --Muhammad (talk) 10:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Image Categorization

Hello,

Saw that you had added the category Category:Nature of Kadavoor, Kerala to the file File:Danaus_chrysippus_male_2_by_kadavoor.jpg and I added it to the new sub category Category:Butterflies of Kadavoor. Today saw that you had taken this picture from another place(my edit!

Please fix the categories of other images, if they were not taken from Kadavoor. Please see the sub categories too. :) --Vaishak Kallore | വൈശാഖ്‌ കല്ലൂര്‍ (talk) 14:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

• Well; from the file history I saw that such categories are added by User:Dysmorodrepanis who is an expert on biological taxa. Some of my pictures are taken at a nearby place Kudayathoor where is my sister's home. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 15:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Ok, fine. Please check the categories of pics taken from Kudayathoor and update it :) --Vaishak Kallore | വൈശാഖ്‌ കല്ലൂര്‍ (talk) 16:12, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

GFDL

Hi Jkadavoor. You've been campaining on this issue far longer than my recent efforts. Are you happy with the wording on the Village Pump in my proposed text beginning "The GFDL is no longer considered ..."? I want to make sure it will deal with the problems as you see them and is clear enough that a reasonable discussion can follow. Colin (talk) 12:24, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

File:Agriocnemis pygmaea female, Burdwan, West Bengal, India 11 10 2012.jpg

Hello Jeevan: I have identified this image as Agriocnemis pygmaea female. Is it correct? --JDP90 (talk) 09:06, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes; the red form. The females are available in different color forms; mostly red and green (like male). -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 09:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. --JDP90 (talk) 09:31, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Humour

Re your post on my talk page. I'm sorry the humour didn't translate. Every single word on that review was a joke, including the last bit on size. In the FP/GFDL discussion, folk repeatedly said we should review the image, not the licence. So I wrote a review of the licence, not the image. I assumed from your nomination text that this wasn't a totally serious nomination and you were having a bit of fun. If, on the other hand, it was a serious nomination, then starting it with " I know this not a very good picture..." will not help your cause :-) After all, if you don't believe it is the best, why should anyone else.

If you want to boost your chances, you could comment on why you think the picture is good. For example the background is nicely out of focus. As you say, you've only got a compact camera so the 100% pixel quality doesn't match a DSLR but if one downsamples to 2MP for review purposes, the quality is quite acceptable. Colin (talk) 08:05, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

POTD profile

Hi Jkadavoor,

My name is Zoe Bernard and I'm a communications intern with the Wikimedia Foundation in San Francisco. We're starting a new feature on the Foundation blog [8] to profile the photographers behind the beautiful photos that become Picture of the Day (POTD) on the Commons home page. You can see some of our past POTD posts here: https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/communications/picture-of-the-day/ While we're aware that you have three photos scheduled to appear this month (to be posted on October 16, 21, and 28, respectively), we'd like to do a short interview with you about the picture which is scheduled to appear on 16 October. We can arrange for the interview either by phone, Skype, or email to discuss your work and your POTD. Please let me know if you think you'd be interested! You can reach me on my talkpage or by email at: zbernardwikimedia.org

Thanks,

Zbernard (WMF) (talk) 19:52, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, re

Hi Jee, my dear friend,

(I did not forgot your email, I'll answer soon).

My "hello" is not for the new rule (you know my position: CC0 is the best, that's all, nothing more to say).

My "hello" is regarding the "asshole question", which is not solved...--Jebulon (talk) 17:17, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Kind regards from Paris in autumn (you don't know what autumn is, but even a bit sad, it is charming in some ways...)--Jebulon (talk) 17:17, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: File:Durga Burdwan 03 10 2011.JPG

Thank you. Today is the main day of the 5 day long Durga puja (Mahastami). I'd like to wish you in the happy occasion. Happy Durga puja. -- JDP90 (talk) 05:20, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

That 1%

"I wonder why people give much important for the person behind the click when all other contribution are from the tools (99%; I guess)." You give too much weight to the camera. Surely one should acknowledge God here or Giuseppe Momo here? :-)

I thoroughly recommend "The Photographer's Eye: Composition and Design for Better Digital Photos" by Michael Freeman (and his other books in the series). There is more to a great photograph than what the camera does when you press click. I'm sure you know that already, but it is a good book to make you think. -- Colin (talk) 08:36, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• Yes; I never forgot to give proper credits; all of my works are just thanks to His mercy. :) (I'm not neglecting the talent of the photographer; but thoughts like I, me and mine will not help to grow. You can find more at [9]-- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 08:46, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I think you have a point about "I, me and mine will not help to grow". My own ethical stance on using and adapting someone else's work is that I should provide attribution (and this widely accepted, such as good scholarly or publishing practice). But if other people don't share those ethical beliefs "should I let that bother me" -- probably not. If they behave unethically then that's their problem and I don't want it to be mine. Reading the CC0 FAQ (and other pages on that website -- all quite readable) I see that CC0 still allows the author to request attribution but not demand it. Saying, if you do attribute me (and I think you should), then this is how you should do it. This is more in keeping with my position than BY and SA which enforce things on the reuser that I don't want to care about. I'm still undecided.

If you are positive that CC0 is what you want, I would have thought you could release your existing images under that too, which would probably make the other licences on the page redundant and removable -- though best check with someone first.

Btw, the CC0 doesn't remove rights from the other people or objects you photograph. So Peter Weiss can release an image of a politician under CC0 and that politician would still be able to control how their image is used (for example, to prevent negative publicity posters using it). However, the CC0 FAQ says "You are also surrendering your own publicity and privacy rights. If your image is captured in the work, for example, you cannot later complain that someone is using it in violation of those rights". For this reason, I recommend you do not take pictures of yourself and apply CC0 to them. All of the other CC licences retain those rights for yourself.

CC used to have options without the "BY" clause. For example "CC SA". These were dropped obsensibly because less than 2% of folk used them and they therefore increased the permutations of options unnecessarily. However, I suspect another reason is that SA licences don't mix well and so if someone adapts your work, they wouldn't be able to demand attribution either. Since 98% of free-culture folk appear to want attribution, that could make your work less freely reusable than you want. Colin (talk) 10:19, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

id

Hello Jeevan,

I need help in identification. Can you please help identifying this. --JDP90 (talk) 10:42, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry; I can't. Hope "Butterflies of India" group at Facebook can help. -- JKadavoor Jee 05:31, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you. -- JDP90 (talk) 07:39, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Graellsia isabellae

Here its physiological position: Graellsia isabellae1.jpg This is not boring for this species because it is very typical and we recognize the first glance the species and sex (small antenna is a female). But the vast majority of butterflies differ in details such as Heliconius where there are many species and numerous subspecies. In this case only the naturalized forms can recognize the butterfly. All things that you know you are attending as butterflies ... alive. Our work is complementary and indispensable to each other. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 15:30, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes; both photos of live and collected specimens are interesting and informative. I like your works. I think you remember that I opposed some people's argument to avoid featuring dead specimens in English Wikipedia. My only doubt was about the arrangements of wings that look different from a natural dorsal view. Now I understand the reason from your reply (to show the hind-wings otherwise hidden in a normal view). I appreciate your willingness to answer any doubts/silly queries with a calm voice; not many people here have it. :) -- JKadavoor Jee 04:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

The frog

Nothing is simple in the nomenclature. In the oldest pub I find there are indeed two "ii". Boulenger, 1882 : Catalogue of the Batrachia Salientia s. Ecaudata in the collection of the British Museum, ed. 2, pp.427-428 (texte intégral) But it is very likely that it is not in this book that the publication was made. Should still seek to show that the original name is with one "i". Boulenger and Vaillant knew, and we do not double "i" if the name ends with the vowel. These typographical error of the doubling of the "i" are common.--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 08:06, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Isn't there any info on the old image, if there is, why not cut and paste it ? I would figure there are people who like increasing their edit count, and they would like that sort of thing. Penyulap ☏ 18:25, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for sharing your beautiful photographs with us. :) The level of texture in your R. amor is truly breathtaking. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 18:58, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

FP

Thanks for your feedback. Although I dont agree completely this time, it is always helpful to hear other people's comments. I hope you will enjoy your vacation. Best regards--ArildV (talk) 08:23, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks. JKadavoor Jee 08:27, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Have a nice break

Have a nice break and wishes for Christmas Jee! Waiting for more photographs from Kasargod,i've heard lot about Kasargod natural beauty.Hope to visit there sometime :) --Cj.samson (talk) 09:06, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

description

Please don't write too much information in PoTD like This or That. Some of them are exposed in other languages' WP, and if it's too long, it takes too much space in main page. Thanks! --관인생략 (talk) 23:31, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Wish you a Merry Christmas and a very very happy new year. -- Joydeep _Talk 17:47, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back, merry Christmas, and happy new year

Best wishes, Mr. Butterfly, to share with the persons you love !--Jebulon (talk) 22:17, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Picture of the Year voting round 1 open

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same old same old

Your comment here regarding "some old players are nominating very similar pictures of existing FP of them and sometimes from the same bench of pictures taken in the same hour." I'm curious, are you referring to this nomination? -- Colin (talk) 12:59, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

• No; instead I like such combinations. They are different views (from up and down) making a perfect combination. JKadavoor Jee 13:17, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Vegetarianism

Didn't want to continue off-topic posts on the cheetah FPC page. Oslo should be fine for vegetarians, but not so easy in Mizoram (where we subsisted on daal+rice for an entire week) and even in Namibia -- where I was once asked if chicken was acceptable vegetarian food! I'm not a vegetarian anymore just because I just couldn't keep up the constant need to find different food from what's available. -- ~y (talk) 14:09, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

• Yes; I know. The food habit of people are much based on the environment we live. The climate is warm but not too much in South India, much suitable for vegetarians. I've friends in Nigeria and they said only Chicken and Pork available as curry with rice. My only attempt was to cool down the discussion. :) So, you settled in Oslo? Have a wonderful day. JKadavoor Jee 15:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

• I've not settled down anywhere yet (unfortunately). It's currently messy because I'm living in four countries in four different continents: US, Norway, Namibia and India. I don't even know how to answer the "where are you from?" question I get on the travels. It's going to be the US eventually I think. I don't know. But yeah, the captive animal / ethical debates can get very heated very quickly. People tend to have their reasons whether it is intuitive or because they have data to support one reason or the other. -- ~y (talk) 15:41, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Answer

Please read my answer here.--ArildV (talk) 13:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank You

For your feedback on my VIC and FPC file:School children (Lukhanyo Primary School, Zwelihle Township (Hermanus, South Africa) 09.jpg. I thought the other image you liked was better as well, but was worried that the lack of any surrounding context would further remove the school reference. I will nominate the other image File:School children (Lukhanyo Primary School, Zwelihle Township (Hermanus, South Africa) 03.jpg in a few days. In your honest opinion, is this other image FP quality? If not that is fine, I am curious about your opinion. I have no experience photographing people... Thank you again, --Godot13 (talk) 08:40, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

• It is a good picture; looks good in a reasonable size (800x600). But FP requires sharp focus on the eyes and good details of face at full resolution. Keep trying. (I like social documentary. ) JKadavoor Jee 09:05, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

TUSC token 6a39f50f6679859ad0bb9fe2fe5b05af

I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! JKadavoor Jee 06:38, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

GFDL

Hi,

I think the discussion at WP:FP should be left to die. Too many folk aren't interested in the "free content" aspect and just happy with Wikipedia being "free to read". Too many folk giving themselves ulcers worrying about bad people exploiting their work.

Still, fundamentally Wikipedia has the same values as Commons and is committed to free content. To this end, I'm drafting a proposed change to Commons policy. See User:Colin/AppropriatelyLicensed. There is also a FAQ sub-page. What do you think? Colin (talk) 09:41, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks; replied at User_talk:Colin/AppropriatelyLicensed. JKadavoor Jee 11:56, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

small wheel

Hello, I know that was a long discussion. I know it's hard to believe the issue of the small wheel of the car. I uploaded the RAW files as well, so there is no doubt. --The Photographer (talk) 12:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarifications. I assume people use the available resource to reduce the maintenance cost neglecting safety with is very common in developing countries (like India). JKadavoor Jee 12:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

That's right, it is very common to see cars of the 50s, however, it is possible to observe newer used cars to Share taxis ;) --The Photographer (talk) 16:55, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate the positive approach to life and the accompanying survival skills of your people. JKadavoor Jee 05:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

A re-use of your image: http://www.zazzle.com/psyche_leptosia_nina_butterflies_mating_print-228017112317558890. --Túrelio (talk) 06:28, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot

Hi Jee, Thanks a lot for your vote in FP. I was ready to accept the sentence when you suddenly appeared, just after Selbymay and just before the end of the voting period. I don't know wether you're interested in soccer ; I'm not any more but I used to play in a small team for years and the goals I scored during the last minutes of a match were always very special ! -- A few more (historical) jokes on my talk page. I've tried to translate them in English only for you ! -- Friendly yours. --JLPC (talk) 09:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes; suspense that drive us crazy (I read the jokes; they are cool!). JKadavoor Jee 13:33, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

a small note not worth noticing

I did a small copy-edit here I thought you wouldn't mind. Penyulap ☏ 00:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Bee fly photo

My pleasure.Very best regards Robert aka Notafly (talk) 13:49, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators/Requests/Fæ2

Hi Jkadavoor, I am a bit puzzled by your strong comment in my RFA. It would be great if you could illustrate your note with a couple of examples of my behaviour from the last year. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 16:15, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

• I expect more matured and controlled behaviour from admins. Many of your comments I read recently at COM:AN/U are not acceptable from an admin for me. Sorry; I too argue with people, but do respect opponents. JKadavoor Jee 16:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Sure, I don't have a problem with you highlighting this as a problem you see with my behaviour. It would help others visiting the discussion to be able to judge that from examples of where you feel I have been disrespectful in the recent past. If you could link to a couple of the AN/U threads that you find of concern from the archives, this would add useful context. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 16:28, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jkadavoor, I have to second Fæ here. Stating that someone has a "Bad character" is an ad-hominem argument, a personal attack, as it is totally different from stating that his/her actions/behaviour/etc. were bad or are considered bad by you, which might be o.k., if based on fact. I ask you to correct this accordingly. --Túrelio (talk) 16:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

If I may butt in here, it's been clarified extremely well, the exact venue and time-frame are given.

I think the problem here may be that Fæ likes to play 'wall-o-crap' where he points to a vague collection of edits what have no merit whatsoever, and when someone else does it, possibly he thinks they are playing wall-o-crap as well. If you'd like specific examples I could go and dig up one or two for you, can't be that hard to use the search function and find a gem or two. Actually, I'd probably find a mother-load and strike it rich instantly.

Ha! then there is the actions speak louder than words as well, where people speak and act oh so nice on the surface, but their actions are dishonest overall so even when you look through all the nasty remarks and so on, and notice that Fæ doesn't swear, it doesn't change the actual clear and practical message that is sent. Sometimes it's that clear practical 'read-between-my-lines' message that Fæ is putting the MOST work and attention into, so it's like, are you surprised that people can pick up on that ?

Much better to be open, honest and transparently *nice*, makes life worthwhile and fun. Nothing more fun than having fun now is there ? but if you really want examples of where you're going wrong, I can make a few pointers, I can't guarantee that they'd be the same ones that Jkadavoor is picking up on, but I am sure they would overlap a bit. Penyulap ☏ 06:25, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Policies Vs Proposals

I'm wondering if we should start a proposal to make the text " proposal " a bit bigger on proposed policy pages, what do you think ? Penyulap ☏ 09:26, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean proposal? JKadavoor Jee 11:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Here is what I mean, I put a note on Template talk:Proposed. Penyulap ☏ 13:36, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Warburg / Notes in different languages

Hello Jkadavoor! Thanks for adding the picture to en-WP. I wonder if there is way to use multi-language notes. If you take the former picture File:Stadtpanorama Warburg.JPG the notes are only in German. IMHO that is not really useful for en-WP. Any ideas for a multi-language solution similiar to the multi-language templates for description field? --Tuxyso (talk) 11:50, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

• Interesting idea; but I have no idea. Better you ask at Commons:Village pump. JKadavoor Jee 11:55, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the hint, I asked the question here: Commons:Help_desk#Multi-language_notes. I would suggest to wait until it is clear if there is a way for multi-language notes. --Tuxyso (talk) 12:12, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	Great quality photos! JustBerry (talk) 17:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

categories

[moved from Category talk:User:Jkadavoor 17:38, 26 May 2013] Hi, thx for using meaningful categories, p.e. (as of , 2013)

p.e. Category:Golden Temple (Harmandir Sahib) instead of [Category:Amritsar] + [Category:Darbar Sahib] + [Category:Harmandir Sahib] + [Category:Nikon D300] + [Category:Wayside shrines]

p.e. Category:Gangajelies instead of [Category:Holi] + [Category:Silver]

p.e. Category:Iron pillar instead of [Category:Iron]

p.e. Category:Jaisalmer Fort instead of [Category:Jaisalmer Fort] + [Category:Jaisalmer]

etc.etc.etc.

So you have questions, please feel free to contact the Wikimedia Commons help desk, regards, Roland 17:58, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

[moved from 'user talk' as started and answered here, quotation start]

These are part of a bulk upload from my Flickr friend's stream after a positive discussion. I need more time to review each, update the file descriptions and categories. Meantime, I appreciate any helps like one that Roland did here too. I'm just an uploader here; so neutral on the delete or keep argument. JKadavoor Jee 06:11, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

[moved from 'user talk' as started and answered here, quotation end]

Hi Jkadavoor, as you may have remarked, my 'job' also is done, i.e. most of that flickr-transfer is categorized - being as you too, usually 'just' an uploader and (very) interested in (South) Indian uploads ;-) As well sometimes and not often I just start deletion requests, but am not a 'member' of that 'team'.

For further India-related flickr-transfers, please take a look at Category talk:Photographs of India by flickr streams to simplify our common work for Wikimedia Commons. Some more explainations you'll find at Category talk:Photographs of India by Dennis G. Jarvis, so you may be interested. Thank you and best regards, Roland 19:04, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Appropriately Licensed

You participated at the earlier discussion on licence choice for Featured Pictures. A number of users felt that such restrictions should be made at policy level. Please comment at Commons:Requests for comment/AppropriatelyLicensed. This is a proposal to amend this licence policy to disallow future uploads where the sole licence is inappropriate for the media (e.g., GFDL for images). In earlier discussions there were a number of comments that, while reasonable opinions, did not align with Wikimedia's mission for free content. Please read the FAQ before commenting. Thanks -- Colin (talk) 22:53, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello Jee

Hello Jee, I'm facing problem identifying this Lycaenidae. Can you help me? -- Joydeep _Talk 18:12, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

I think it is Zizina otis; not sure though. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=473070079449056 JKadavoor Jee 05:17, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I'll rename it soon (my internet connection is causing problem). -- Joydeep _Talk 17:52, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of Commons' scope

Thanks for contributing to the ongoing Review of Commons' scope. This is just a quick note to let you know that as the discussion you were commenting on was related to the moral issues part of the existing guidelines I have moved it over to Commons talk:Photographs of identifiable people/Update 2013/Moral issues (it had been started on a page for discussion of procedural issues). All the best, --MichaelMaggs (talk) 08:46, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; but I think I'm only a minority here. :( JKadavoor Jee 12:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

The cream of the crop ! Penyulap ☏ 13:02, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Re-closure of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jimmy Wales by Pricasso.jpg

Dear Jee, I am just dropping you a note to let you know that my re-closure of your new deletion request was done for purely procedural reasons, as without some sort of final closure these things can be discussed forever, which would not be good for Commons as a whole. I know that your request was made in good faith, and I respect your opinions on the matter. All the best, --MichaelMaggs (talk) 09:42, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey buddyI

Your one person I am completely comfortable with and supportive of about voting opposite to me. :) If anyone gives you any trouble, you better let me know !! (Grrr)

Anyhow, I would like to help if I can, one thing I can do extremely well is judge outcomes of proposals quite early or before they are started. Often the manner in which a proposal is presented can make or break it. If I can help, I would very much like that. Most people would kill for this skill.

I noticed the resolution, I consider it poorly written. It is supposed to be limited to recording private people (or public figures) in private situations, like Prince Charles through the window. It doesn't actually cover situations like this, where the person isn't even there at all, and is not based on information about something private the person does. It doesn't come as a surprise that the page doesn't make it clear.

Now if only we can inspire the masses to actually DO something positive for a change ! Like stop using the project as a tool. Penyulap ☏ 09:43, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

email

• I send you an email, please do not go ! Penyulap ☏ 11:53, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Pen; but no one has the right to force me to work in an environment where basic human rights are highly compromised. Michael advised me to respect the consensus even if I personally disagree with it. But I wonder why him or his colleagues not respecting the decision of WMF: "Treat any person who has a complaint about images of themselves hosted on our projects with patience, kindness, and respect, and encourage others to do the same." This resolution was passed by the Board of Trustees with a 10-0 majority. JKadavoor Jee 13:15, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

• I support Penyulap and would feel sad if anything I did has encouraged you to move away from Commons. The community needs more people like you, and I do hope you will stay and continue with your good work trying to improve things here. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:17, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
• you do make a proper point, and quite frankly you are 100% correct and I back you 100% on that. Please consider to do as I do, and embargo some of the work that you do, and stay and add your voice of reason to the many who also want to make this place better. If we lose the voice of reason, then what is left ? The project becomes a troll project. We need to prevent that and we cannot do it without your help. Stop work, but do not stop standing up for what is right, it is more important, most important. Penyulap ☏ 13:27, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
• You're not alone. Hang in there. There are others here who think as you do. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 23:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

• I've sent you an email. It is vital that grown-up sensible moral people like Jee stay on this project. Otherwise the frat boys win. I urge all who use this project to troll, to insult, to score points and other things unrelated to building educational content to take a long break and come back once you've grown up a bit. You are making this unpleasant for the good people. We need good people. (We need some female wisdom too!) I completely agree with Jee that the level of disrespect and abuse show by that picture is unacceptable. The mind boggles that folk will argue on technicalities and policy points to keep such an image and associated vidoes. Shame on the lot of you. I hope Jee takes a wikibreak and returns afresh. Colin (talk) 14:26, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
• As per flickr. Take a break if need be, but lowering your voice lets the rabble rule the podium. Saffron Blaze (talk) 16:28, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
• I commend you for sticking to your principles. I hope your departure does not go unnoticed, and contributes towards a drive for culture change on this project. Good luck with your future endeavors. — Scott • talk 18:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
• Jkadavoor, kudos for standing up for your principles. Who knows, perhaps Commons can be saved, but I'm not holding my breath. Cla68 (talk) 23:59, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Please reconsider your decision

I'm really shocked to see that you are no longer want to be active on commons. You voice clean and constructive opinions. It will be a loss to different pages of commons and personally a great loss to me. I will ask you to please reconsider your decision. -- Joydeep _Talk 17:59, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Joydeep; and many others commented here. But I can’t see any meaning in to continue my efforts even if limiting to the FP, QI and VI projects which were my favourite places and where I had spend my valuable times in my good days ( yes; I’m getting old and not in my good health nowadays). In fact, this is the root cause of the unfortunate fate of the Commons now. Most of us are spending all our resource to strengthen the wide variety of contents here; but not caring to strengthen the basic policies on that it is built on. As a result, our admin community is struggled with the shortage of enough qualified people. I wish if some of our veteran members (like Alves, Jeb, ‎Archaeo) will come forward to take the responsibility to reform Commons.

I’m just posing all the relevant links related to the current controversy (for those who know me; but don’t know the current topic):

Medias which are I’m concerned about:

• File:Jimmy_Wales_by_Pricasso.jpg
• File:Jimmy_Wales_by_Pricasso_(the_making_of).ogv
• File:Jimmy_Wales_by_Pricasso_(cropped).jpg
• File:Obvious_troll.jpeg

Discussions where I raised my voice:

• Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Jimmy_Wales_by_Pricasso.jpg
• User_talk:Trijnstel#For_Your_Kind_Attention
• m: User_talk:Snowolf#Inter-wiki_issue
• http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators/Requests/Russavia_(de-adminship,_de-bureaucratship)
• w:Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-06-19/Op-ed#Good_only_in_speech

Policies and guidelines supporting my voice:

• http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Images_of_identifiable_people : "Treat any person who has a complaint about images of themselves hosted on our projects with patience, kindness, and respect, and encourage others to do the same."
• Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people#Moral_issues: "While some aspects of ethical photography and publication are controlled by law, there are moral issues too. They find a reflection in the wording of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 12: "No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation."Common decency and respect for human dignity may influence the decision whether to host an image above that required by the law."

Related discussions outside Commons:

• w: User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_135#NSFW_-_Wikimedia_Commons_video: "I encourage people to go to commons and work to explain to the community there some of the concepts behind Hostile environment sexual harassment. I encourage everyone to seriously consider whether it is appropriate behavior to upload a clearly non-notable film of someone using his penis to paint a picture of a Wikipedia volunteer. It is harassment, it is trolling, and I am deeply disappointed to have to point this out to some people.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:10, 15 June 2013 (UTC)"
• http://www.dailydot.com/technology/wikimedia-commons-photos-jimmy-wales-broken/
• w: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Pricasso
• w: Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Pricasso
• w: Talk:Pricasso#The_link_to_Commons_media
• w: User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Russavia.27s_troll_in_the_news

I just noticed Slaunger’s (to whom I respect most in Commons) attempt to resolve this issue; but not much hope.

I request to raise your voice at Commons_talk:Photographs_of_identifiable_people/Update_2013/Moral_issues; the only discussion that is active now. All others are closed now.

JKadavoor Jee 05:35, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

when I see his directive again, I think a grandmother should knock their two heads together like a pair of coconuts for causing so much trouble.

I'm sorry if my efforts to put a stop to the fight seem like I'm trying to keep the stupid image. I want it deleted, along with all the other crap we have here. Penyulap ☏ 18:15, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

I must say I was having a hard time understanding your motives as well. It was good that you came here and offered this clarity. Saffron Blaze (talk) 19:44, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for taking your time to aggregate all the references of relevance. It is very good and instructive for getting an overview of the situation. I am sad if we have to loose you. I really hope we can do something to improve our policies and implement a work culture which better respects human dignity than today. Instead of saying goodbye, I will say so long in the hope, that if the situation improves and you feel like it again, you will come back! I hope you will! Take care.

I have tried to add something to the moral issues proposal section, which is open. It is some very rough thoughts, which needs to be matured and elaborated on. Hoping for some feedback. --Slaunger (talk) 20:28, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

I've made a proposal at Minority removal of welcome images. Penyulap ☏ 16:24, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Travelling

I am travelling; so unable to respond to any message/mail till July 06, 2013. JKadavoor Jee 07:03, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Have fun and enjoy. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 14:39, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Pics or it didn't happen! Saffron Blaze (talk) 16:15, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; we were attending a retreat at Sehion (http://www.sehion.org/) as a thanks giving for the wonderful gift of marriage that our Heavenly Father shed over us two years ago. I still hope Commons will change; turning away from the evil. With prayers, Jee. JKadavoor Jee 17:44 6 July 2013

I'm going to visit my parent at Kadavoor; hope it helps to recover my self-respects as a human that I lost by participating too much here. :) JKadavoor Jee 03:29, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Identify the type of starfish

Hello Jkadavoor, I'm a sysop in Arabic Wikipedia and I'd like to identify the exactly type of this two photos [10] & [11] of starfish in Egypt. Thanks--لا روسا (talk) 11:37, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Please contact Biopics who seems a subject expert. JKadavoor Jee 11:56, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

FP set nomination

I thought you would like to know that I have nominated a set of your pictures at Commons:Featured picture candidates/Set/Lime butterfly, dorsal and side views. --Pine^✉ 06:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you; it is greatly appreciated. JKadavoor Jee 06:15, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Commons talk:SVG guidelines

In response to your comment at Commons talk:Featured picture candidates; I have set up a discussion page and drafted a proposal which can be found at Commons talk:SVG guidelines. Please read and provide your opinion.—Love, Kelvinsong talk 23:07, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Vacation

I will be away for a week, at least. JKadavoor Jee 11:58, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Back. JKadavoor Jee 05:15, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back . -- Joydeep _Talk 17:52, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Joydeep. JKadavoor Jee 02:31, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your note

Hello. Thanks for your note. I apologise if I deleted your comment by mistake. There was an edit conflict with the note I added about UK photography workshops, I certainly didn't do it on purpose. Again, apologies. Stevie Benton (WMUK) (talk) 14:08, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Onam fiesta

Thank you very much ! Will you dance Kaikottikali ?

And what about the coloured boat on Pampa river ? We need pictures !!--Jebulon (talk) 17:26, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Happy Onam!

Have a fantastic Onam! Cheers. -- ~y (talk) 18:31, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Cheers, Jkadavoor. Have a great time Colin (talk) 20:48, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

RE: Onam greetings!

Thanks. I hope that you have a good time. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 11:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Onam greetings!

Hi, Jee ! -- Thanks a lot for your wishes. I hope you had a nice day yesterday ! -- Happy to see your name again on my page and on some Commons pages (I've seen it on the FP page) ! Shall we soon see your pictures again too ? I hope so ! -- Friendly. JLPC (talk) 10:39, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Paisley Abbey

What are your thoughts, FP wise, on File:Paisley Abbey from the south east.jpg? -- Colin (talk) 08:41, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

About this work

Hi dear friend,

I've read your comment on FPC page about Adam's restoration work, and I don't know if you have understand now what means the picture quoted above.

Let me explain, if still needed. "Batterie" and "éperon" have several meaning in french, and of course, in this case, it is not the main meaning.

"Batterie" is (here) the place for some cannons.

"éperon" of course is not "spur", but a place, natural or build, looking like a spike or a spearhead. Or like the greek letter " Λ ".

Between the two world wars, France was afraid of a new invasion from Germany. So the government decided to create a very long line of underground fortifications, and the tunnels frequently shown by Computerhotline are part of them, because he leaves in the eastern part of France, and seems to be very interested (!) by this Maginot Line, which was, as everybody knows, completely useless.........

I've often asked this "Commoner" to give better names (or understandable, at least !) to his files, but no way...

Well, I hope it helps ! --Jebulon (talk) 14:11, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; very interesting info. JKadavoor Jee 16:15, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Could you close another FPC?

Hi! Thanks for closing the Grand Canyon FPC of mine. Could you please do the same for Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Rocks at 17-Mile Drive 2013 02.jpg. I've never done it before at it might be somohow unfamiliar to close a self nomination. --Tuxyso (talk) 13:47, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• I can close it on 18 Oct 2013, 07:42:42 (speedy, after 5 days rule) unless nobody oppose it. But not now. JKadavoor Jee 14:14, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry, I've miscount. It would be great if you close it after 18 Oct 2013, 07:42:42 if no one opposes. Best wishes, --Tuxyso (talk) 14:17, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• Yes; I will. JKadavoor Jee 14:19, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Ml selected pics

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On vacation

On vacation for 3 days. JKadavoor Jee 07:46, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Have a good break. Btw, you made a mistake with the FP template. I wonder if you've made this copy/paste mistake elsewhere? -- Colin (talk) 12:43, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Oops; it seems the Epirus Water Frog which troubled me. :) JKadavoor Jee 14:35, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

File:Stefan Heym (1982).jpg

Hi Jkadavoor, maybe you can help. File:Stefan Heym (1982).jpg was elected as a featured picture, but it seems the process did not quite get to the end. At least, the file-description page does not bear the FP-template, and maybe the process requires some more steps to be taken. Could you have a look at it? Thanks. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 15:39, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done; thanks. JKadavoor Jee 14:35, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the "thanks" that you've sent to me. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 11:47, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion on a possible FPC.

Hi Jkadavoor- I wanted to ask your opinion on whether two images would make a suitable set nomination for FP commons. I was recently in the Czech Republic and visited Theresienstadt concentration camp. I wondered if the noise in #1 and #2 would create a problem (at least in your opinion). Many thanks-Godot13 (talk) 04:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm not a technical reviewer; so unable to comment on that matter. But IMHO, people tend to compromise on technical matters for such historically important, emotional matters. I prefer a single nomination of File:Czech-2013-Theresienstadt-Cell 27.jpg. Thanks for asking me. JKadavoor Jee 05:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, I will try nominating that image.-Godot13 (talk) 20:12, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dear Reviewer

If you use the helper-the scripts, you will find the links next to the search box (vector) or as single tabs (monobook). They are named license+ and license-

Hi Jkadavoor, thanks for your application to be an image reviewer. The application has been removed as successful, and you've been added to the list of reviewers. You can review all kind of image licenses on Commons. Please see Commons:License review and Commons:Flickr files if you haven't done so already. We also have a guide how to detect copyright violations. Backlogs include Flickr review, Picasa review, Panoramio review, and files from other sources. You can use one of the following scripts by adding one of the lines to your common.js:

importScript('User:ZooFari/licensereviewer.js'); // stable script for reviewing images from any kind of source OR

importScript('User:Rillke/LicenseReview.js'); // contains also user notification when review fails, auto blacklist-check and auto-thank you message for Flickr-reviews.

You can also add {{User reviewer}} or {{User trusted}} to your user page if you wish. Thank you for your contributions on Commons! User:Armbrust (Local talk - en.Wikipedia talk) 13:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Armbrust; will look into them! JKadavoor Jee 13:54, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Happy Diwali.

Thanks a lot Jee, I wish you and your family a very very happy and prosperous Diwali. --Joydeep _Talk 06:20, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Jee. Thank you for this discovery. The festival of light should gather all men. The motto I have chosen on my page is a phrase from one of our philosophers. "The more a man is enlightened, the more it will be free." It has a double meaning. Light can be taken as synonymous with worldly knowledge. But it can also have a spiritual meaning. Both directions enrich us --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:52, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jeevan, thanks a lot for the Diwali wishes! I wish you and your family a great Diwali!! --Jovian Eye _storm 07:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

I wish you and your family Happy Diwali! Thanks for the wishes.--ArildV (talk) 08:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, dear Jee ! Happy Diwali too ! The last words of Goethe, the german poet, were : "Mehr Licht !" (More Light !), it has the same double meaning as noticed by Archaeo.--Jebulon (talk) 09:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello Jeevan, Thank you for your whishes! You have brought a piece of light and knowledge in my life today as I have learnt about Diwali thanks to you and Joydeep. I whish you a Happy Diwali! --Myrabella (talk) 09:23, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Jee! For you and your family also very happy Diwali! --Moonik (talk) 15:12, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the message and the information. It's always nice to learn about other cultures. A "Happy Diwali" to you as well. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 12:24, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. It's my turn to wish you a Happy Diwali ! --JLPC (talk) 17:19, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Happy Diwali!!! ✨🌟 —Love, Kelvinsong talk 23:18, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Question

When exactly can I re-nominate the photos that were denied? Blurred Lines 03:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Whenever you have no or only one active nomination. At any time, you should have only 2 active nominations. Thanks. JKadavoor Jee 03:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

How exactly can I re-nominate them? Blurred Lines 03:18, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Featured_picture_candidates#Adding_a_new_nomination: "For renominations, simply add /2 after the filename. For example, Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Foo.jpg/2" JKadavoor Jee 03:21, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks. Blurred Lines 03:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

...for the holiday wishes.-Godot13 (talk) 04:26, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Fractional currency set FPC

I have re-nominated the set of United States Fractional currency as FPC. It was unopposed last time], but fell one vote short of promotion. Since you voted last time I wanted to ask if you would consider reviewing it one more time. Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 06:23, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; will look into it, later. JKadavoor Jee 06:27, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Happy Diwali

Thankyou.The world and its life needs all our kindness.Very warm regards Robert aka Notafly (talk) 21:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank for your words. I am trying find time for the moment The Photographer (talk) 20:55, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Thank Jkadavoor for this. I forget add the author information. The Photographer (talk) 10:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm seeing many files with missing "proper credits", mostly under Category:Retouched pictures. :( JKadavoor Jee 10:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Commons is not Facebook

Hi jkadavoor, I have been finding an almost infinite number of images such as Facebook (photos of people with a style of "I'm important"). I think someone could make a bot to help this, using a dictionary with keywords. Do you know, by chance, a user who could do this?. Thanks --The Photographer (talk) 12:38, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

• Probably Fæ can help you. JKadavoor Jee 13:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I will tell him about it, I wonder what he thinks. thank you very much --The Photographer (talk) 14:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

FP nomination where name doesn't match

FYI, see the fix I made here. The "File:" prefix isn't needed. Thanks for continuing to replace the bot! Any developments on that? -- Colin (talk) 11:45, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmm; that seems complicated. The {{Assessments}} was placed by the FPCBot, using the Alternative parameter at {{FPC-results-reviewed}}. {{FPC-results-reviewed}} shows error if used with out File:. Just pinging Daniel78 for help. (The bot is working fine so far; but it didn't close nominations per 5 day rule yesterday. Not a big problem, considering the generic issues in the entire site.) JKadavoor Jee 12:58, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Going home!

We're going home to visit our parents, Today evening; will be back on 26. Have a nice time. JKadavoor Jee 03:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Have a nice trip and safe journey. --Joydeep _Talk 18:46, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Back; thanks Joydeep. JKadavoor Jee 15:59, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Commons Photo Challenge December 2013

Commons:Photo challenge has been created and needs you! Come to the talk page to discuss and help organise this new project. December 2013 has two themes: Coloured light and Silhouette. I hope you are able to participate. -- Colin (talk)

RE:File:Casa Colonial del Centro Historico de Maracaibo.jpg

I think I'm missing something here. So because I used my fiancé's camera, now I'm not allowed to used the licensing of my choosing? What I'm missing Jkadavoor, because I'm not understanding you. As for changing the EFIX, if you know of a software who can mass change EFIX, that would be really appreciated. Béria Lima ^msg 17:36, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

White bison

Frankly, I don't know! I've no scientific knowledge about living organisms (except some from non-academic way) :-). So I think experts should fix it. I moved en.wp article and added descriptions on commons file page, those actions have no scientific base, but based on common usage and never imagined this kind of complexity. Also I think renaming en.wp article to Manjampatti white bison may also become wrong, just because, Manjampatti is just a point on the wide range of the animal. White gaur may be more appropriate.--Praveen:talk 13:45, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Re Title from file name

• The multimedia viewer does this on the php side where that sort of thing is easier. On the template side of thing, the easiest way would be with lua. Do something like {{#invoke:FileName|removeExtension|File name here}} (Note: When I say FileName, I mean literally type that out. I do not mean replace with filename) Or if transcluded on the file page, just {{#invoke:FileName|removeExtension}} (That's a quick little lua script I just made. I don't know if something similar already existed. User:Rillke would know)
• Extracting the date from the information template via template code - Certainly not in any fashion that would be considered sane (until the coming of wikidata). However, there is a crazy approach - {{#invoke:FileName|getYearFromInfo}} (Warning: not sure how reliable it is. Also it is constructed with evil).
• FP log - that's unfortunate. I was hoping that the optimization with page language would help fix the issue. I did a profile of an edit preview. It took about 45 seconds to render (Still very long, although I wouldn't expect that to push it into 503 territory.). The time spent doing the pageLanguage hook no longer shows up. It appears a lot of that time is spent rendering various links. I'm not sure if much can be done about that.

Profile info of Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/Log/November_2013 on 00:36, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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Bawolff (talk) 00:36, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, when I did a null edit, it 1 minute and 10 seconds to render the save (Unfortunately, profiles of page saves aren't publicly available, so I can't analyze why that request took so much longer), followed by 24 seconds to render the resulting page. I wonder why the edit takes so much more time to go through. The main difference I can think of (off the top of my head) are (a non-recursive) link updates (Even though this has a lot of templates to potentially insert into the templatelinks table, it still shouldn't take that long I think. Although I might be wrong). Another possible difference, is if the vary-revision flag is set, saving causes the page to be parsed twice. This would happen if any of the {{REVISION...}} variables are used, or if the page transcludes itself. Bawolff (talk) 00:55, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Bawolff for the detailed reply; I will try to play with the "file name" and "year" as you suggested.

Regarding FPC issues: Daniel78 is not very active nowadays; so we have difficulty to customize those codes now. Otherwise I think we can split the log file into 2 (one for every fortnight) or 4 (one for every week), so that the file become small enough to render smoothly. JKadavoor Jee 02:39, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I just heard about bugzilla:57026, which may have been slowing down saves. Saving that page is now down to 45 seconds for me, from the previous 1 minute and 10 seconds. Bawolff (talk) 20:04, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Bawolff for the info. I don't know any particular reason behind it; but the FPCBot is not closing any nomination since Dec 04 morning. Daniel78 is not active nowadays; so we are helpless to find more information too. :( JKadavoor Jee 02:37, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

The last code update on commons was on 3 December 2013, which is fairly close to dec 4, possibly related. Bawolff (talk) 03:56, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Oops. I will wait for two more hours to check where the bot is running (as it is sheduled to run at 7:00, 15:00, 23:00 CET/CEST), then go and start closing manually; there are so many pending nominations. :( JKadavoor Jee 05:15, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Bawolff, the FPCBot is not closing any nominations; so I started manually doing it. Could you report it to the proper place, as most probably the update you mentioned above will be the cause. Thanks, JKadavoor Jee 07:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

To make a meaningful report I'd need information from the bot author (What error is the bot actually encountering. Is it the previous 503 issue, or is it encountering some new issue). Bawolff (talk) 19:36, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Bawolff, I informed Daniel; but unfortunately it seems he is inactive nowadays. :( JKadavoor Jee 03:18, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

File:Hommik laukaserval, Endla LK.jpg

This image is one of many that was added to a photo competition under this license (I still haven't uploaded many images from there). Year ago it happened so that the license wasn't pointed out in the regulation and so I had to sent every person an e-mail and ask about it (not so easy task). This time I am not going to do so as there is no problem with the license. Kruusamägi (talk) 13:29, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Kruusamägi; but I'm still doubtful on the legal validity of the license, as the file page contains no edit from the copyright holder (even the link to his user page was added by me), no link to the photo competition that you mentioned above, no OTRS permission recorded. So pinging Avenue for an opinion. BTW, I think it can be easily fixable if Tauriparna is willing to confirm his/her consent by a single edit on that page. JKadavoor Jee 16:16, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

With Tauri it would even be fast and easy to get the OTRS permission (I am just not eager to start a precedent for other images). Last time I wrote to him was a week (or 2) ago, when I informed him that his photo would be photo of the week in Estonian Wikipedia, that I added 2 of his photos from this contest to Commons and that I had set this photo up as a candidate of FB. Answer was something like "Great! Unfortunately I didn't had time to participate in this years HELP, even thou I planned so... maybe next year." Kruusamägi (talk) 16:35, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

That is good. The problem I see is that a license is only valid if the copyright holder granted it. Anything else is very informal in my opinion. I've no problem if any other admin disagree with me. JKadavoor Jee 16:39, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

If copyright holder uploads its images into competition where the regulation says that thous images will be later uploaded to Commons under CC BY-SA 3.0 license, then the copyright holder has already made up his or her mind. Confirming something afterwards would be like asking people who have uploaded their own images to Commons that where they sure that they wanted to upload their images into Commons. Kruusamägi (talk) 22:56, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

That seems true enough. However we at Commons need to be able to confirm and document that the situation is as you describe. For example, if the images were posted on the competition's website, with the appropriate license stated there, that might well be enough. If the competition's rules were available (especially the requirement that entries be licensed CC-BY-SA 3.0), that would make the case even more watertight. I didn't notice anything like this in a quick look at the Eesti Loodus website or their Facebook page, but I don't understand Estonian so it's hard to know what I'm missing. Once we locate that sort of evidence, an admin or image reviewer can record it using {{LicenseReview}}. Another approach would be to send details of the competition and the photos to OTRS. --Avenue (talk) 01:46, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Avenue; that is the only concern of me too. Kruusamägi, I know you are a trusted OTRS team member; no doubt on your words. But we have to complete the formalities as Avenue said above; that is lacking here now. JKadavoor Jee 03:22, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Only info in the web right now about the competition is here, but that doesn't include the regulations (why should it?). One of the categories was "Protected areas of Estonia" that was a special Wikipedia category and this CC BY-SA 3.0 doesn't apply to the rest of images. So there is no reason to state that somewhere on the page. Nor there is no reason to put up every images that was submitted to competition.

Well, it was second and last time to have this category then. Kruusamägi (talk) 12:34, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

See; http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/eesti-looduse-fotovoistluse-auhinnatud-tood/ says © 2013 Loodusajakiri at the footer of the page. No other license is specified on individual pictures. So, if it is the source, it is all rights reserved unless specified there or the author grant it to us. I didn't understand your argument on Category:Eesti Looduse fotovõistlus 2012; we can't specify a category as the image source; nor place a license there common to all under it.

See http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Who_gives_permission_to_use_materials_offered_under_Creative_Commons_licenses.3F "Our licenses and legal tools are intended for use by anyone who holds copyright in the material. This is often, but not always, the creator." No one else can use it without a formal permission from the copyright holder, and that permission should be recorded either on the source or through OTRS. JKadavoor Jee 13:05, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Thous images in that specific category where given under CC BY-SA 3.0 when authors uploaded thous to the competition. Or to be more specific: they agreed that thous images will later be published in Commons under this license. Magazine will not publish all of the 1000+ images uploaded to competition on its website or 40+ images uploaded to this category in the competition and doesn't have to publish them under this license. Magazine itself don't need to mention that one photo in this page I linked is going to be published in Commons as well.

I consider this nonsense when I have to write thous authors that "Even tho you agreed to publish thous images under CC BY-SA 3.0, then may I ask the same thing once more." That makes to whole competition pointless to us. Kruusamägi (talk) 13:36, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Forwarding to COM:AN for further considerations. JKadavoor Jee 15:51, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

OTRS confirmation added to most of the images by now. Kruusamägi (talk) 00:13, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Kruusamägi; I appreciate your efforts. Keep on, your good works here. JKadavoor Jee 02:08, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

FP Question

Hi Jkadavoor- In your opinion, are these two files (overlapping subject matter) too similar to both exist as FP? The first one is already FP, and the second one I wanted to nominate... Thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 06:41, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

No; they are detailed and generic views, so can be definitely considered separately. JKadavoor Jee 06:48, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Welcome, Dear Filemover!

---

Hi Jkadavoor, you're now a filemover. When moving files please respect the following advice:

• Use the CommonsDelinker link in the {{Rename}} template to order a bot to replace all ocurrences of the old title with the new one. Or, if there was no rename-request, please use the Move & Replace-tab.
• Please leave a redirect behind unless you have a valid reason not to do so. Other projects, including those using InstantCommons, might be using the file even though they don't show up in the global usage. Deleting the redirects would break their file references. Please see this section of the file rename guideline for more information.
• Please know and follow the file rename guidelines.

--Steinsplitter (talk) 10:56, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Steinsplitter. JKadavoor Jee 12:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

"Images abandoned"

Hello, please do not forget to review the old pictures in Commons: Featured picture candidates, because many are not taking the opportunity to be a special picture and a picture is not evaluated, we will not know if it is good or not. Cheers and thanks! ArionEstar (talk) 17:25, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

ArionEstar, I appreciate your participation. But we have nearly 300 nominations every month, and our system is incapable to handle more. So please wait patiently for 5 day after each nomination. The bot will automatically close it if no other support within 5 days. After that you may choose to withdraw or allow it to continue the remaining 4 days. Your quick withdrawals within one or two days cause overload to the bot and closer like me.

Problem with old works: It is good to find old, good works; but due to the rapid development in imaging technology, it is difficult for them to compete with the new works. I saw your edits on a few works. Editing JPG is not very helpful, we need original raw files, which is not practical/available for old works. :( Jee 03:06, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

File:Israel-2013(2)-Jerusalem-Temple Mount-Dome of the Chain (south exposure).jpg

Hi Jkadavoor- Hate to see a speedy promotion held up ;-) Comments fixed.-Godot13 (talk) 19:35, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Question FPC

Hello Jee, I have just withdraw one of my nominations on the FPC page, have I to wait that it disapears from the page before to nominate another one? I had asked the question some month ago to A.Savin, and he told me that there did not seem be of problem, I would just want a confirmation from you not to create problem in the functioning of the page. And per Diego, thank you for everything. --Christian Ferrer talk 17:02, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

No; you can make new nomination. Jee 17:04, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Re:

The same page indicated than more of 5 votes see be a nominated and the file Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Jornada de las Estrellas de Balonmano 2013 - 50.jpg has a six supports. Sufficient... Sorry by my english. Thanks Leitoxx 14:18, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

See Commons:Featured_picture_candidates#Featured_picture_candidate_policy Featuring and delisting rules. Please don't close nominations or move nominations to log in a hurry. Jee 14:24, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, have a cautious for next time. Regards Leitoxx 14:37, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

OK; Leitoxx, the bot is running three times a day; so no need for a manual move. The only thing we need to do is to change {{FPC-results-ready-for-review}} to {{FPC-results-reviewed}} and add relevant category. Then wait for the next run of the bot. Thanks. Jee 14:44, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Then,himself use only the {{FPC-results-reviewed}}?.Leitoxx 14:51, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

See Commons:Featured picture candidates/What to do after voting is finished: "Note that the description below is for manual closure, this is mostly not needed anymore as there exists a bot (User:FPCBot) that counts the votes and handles the process below. However after the bot has counted the votes a manual review step is used to make sure the count is correct before the bot again picks up the work." A manual close is only needed when the bot is down; or it fail in some rare cases. Jee 15:30, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Gomphrena globosa Single.JPG

Hi Jee,

Thank you again for your great work with FP.

I noticed tonight that you removed Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Gomphrena globosa Single.JPG from FPC yesterday. Since then, a number of users have voted and I myself have commented there (I never noticed that you removed the page from FPC). I am not sure what to do?

Regards, --ArildV (talk) 02:06, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

That is a clear case of canvassing and when I removed it सृजना (a user from same country) voted; but didn't change {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}}. So I think my closing is valid; as I prefer to silently remove it instead of blaming them. :) Jee 02:18, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Preparing for Christmas

I will be on vacation until December 27. May the spirit of Christmas and the echo of the Carols and the lights of the Christmas tree bring happiness and joy into your life and home. Wishing you a wonderful Christmas!. Jee 11:22, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Back. Thanks Diego, Joydeep, George, and all. Jee 12:13, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

hi

how do you do the thank thing ? :) I think this place must be trying to copy social media sites or something, I couldn't see a message. Penyulap ☏ 11:25, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

• Pen, just check history and click thanks. Now Dschwen gifted us a fave tool too. You can fave any file now if you enable "fave gadget" in preference. Yes; Commons is going to a most competitive XXX social media in 2014. Come back. ;) Jee 11:31, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

2014 !

	* * * 2014! * * *
	Merry Christmas! Happy New Year! Happy holidays! -- George Chernilevsky talk 21:05, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New year

I wish you and your family a very happy Christmas and a wonderful new year. --Joydeep _Talk 11:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Dear Jee, I wish and you and your family a Merry Christmas and lots of health and, of course, nice pictures for the coming year! Your Poco² 14:20, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jee :)

Hi Jee, I've been unblocked a few days ago. Wishing you a belated Merry X'mas and great 2014! (✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎) 12:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Wow! That's a good news. Wish you the same! Jee 12:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)