Category talk:Newspaper nameplates

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Category:Newspaper logos[edit]

Merge ambiguous similar topics? djr13 (talk) 14:40, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These three categories cover similar ambiguous topics. The "logos" category currently has the vast majority of content in it, and the other two appear to have content which would probably be more applicable to the "logos" category anyway. There may be instances which are better suited to "mastheads" or "headers" but it isn't obvious, and sorting these would be a large task.

Note specifically the description provided by Category:Newspaper mastheads. djr13 (talk) 14:48, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Good nomination, Djr13. I have to admit, I also thought "masthead" meant the top part of the front page including the logo, etc. Is "header" the right word for that? Am I wrong that Category:Newspaper mastheads would be empty if all of its contents were properly sorted (to Category:Newspaper headers)? ie. Do we actually have any images of newspaper mastheads? - Themightyquill (talk) 18:40, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It seems possible, though it'd probably take quite some digging, just considering all the newspaper scans (and perhaps especially considering Wikisource). If all three were kept, we'd definitely need to put up some set of Template:Distinguish alongside longer explanations. djr13 (talk) 21:33, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Upon reading en:Nameplate (publishing), I realized the category description at Category:Newspaper mastheads was just the American usage, but British usage is different - hence the confusion. I hope it's okay that I went ahead and acted to disambiguate "Mastheads" - the "header" definition of masthead is known as Category:Newspaper nameplates in American English, whereas the "editors/authors" definition of masthead is known as the "imprint" (Category:Newspaper imprints can be created if any are found.
But while I've moved everything to Category:Newspaper nameplates, that doesn't mean it can't be deleted and/or merged with Category:Newspaper logos if that's what consensus dictates. I can see the benefits of a merger, but I can also see how nameplate is different from logo. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:45, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This looks like a pretty good fix, thanks for helping sort it out! I'm tempted to also add Category:Newspaper front pages to the collection of categories. Sorting miscategorizations will probably be an endless problem regardless of how well we tag these. djr13 (talk) 03:22, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't know about good, but I don't think it hurt. I've added disambiguation links between nameplates and Category:Newspaper front pages at your suggestion, but as you say, this all will likely remain a bit of mess for the foreseeable future. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:24, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Irrespectively of the proposed merger, I hate headlinese (and, particularly, this noun–noun pattern) demonstrated by some Commons categorizers. Should be renamed to Logos of newspapers. English is not intended to conserve the count of words. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 09:54, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done: already done. --ƏXPLICIT 00:42, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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