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Hi Siebrand, Do you know any bot who can replace licencetemplates? (I had a look at the page of CommonsDelinker, but it seems that it can'T do that job so far). thx for info --D-Kuru (talk) 13:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
As you may know some user replace the GFDL 1.2+ licence with the 1.2-only tag for their images. Some of them have a own licence in their usernamespace. User as Fir0002[1] and Muhammad Mahdi Karim[2] (and of course some more) just changed their licences on their personal licencetemplates from 1.2+ to 1.2-only. Even nowhere is written that that isn't allowed you can still use it under 1.2+ because they've once published under the permission to do so. I would like to move all (old) 1.2+ images to a new template so that they can they have the correct licence again. Changing the licence by manually would take a lot of time so I would like to use the bot for that job.
You said "SieBot can do it when I tell it to.". Are you the only one who is allowed/able to tell SieBot to change templates? I don't want to occupy/waste your time with a dozen (or much more I don't know it so far) requests. If you prefer that you command SieBot so that you can co-check my operations/suggestions I can make a list (which would be expanded from time to time) of usernamespace licencetemplates which should be moved.
Not making this change just yet. Very few users showed interest in the topic, and there does not appear to be consensus on the course of action yet. Another thing, can you please create a new topic for every request? It will keep my talk page and later on the archives tidy. Cheers! Siebrand21:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Categories relating to the Australian state of Victoria
Hi Siebrand. Were the changes SieBot is making to categories relating to the Australian state of Victoria actually discussed anywhere? If not (or even if so), where can I appeal this decision that has made a simple naming system more complex than it needs to be? I did assume that someone prepared to rename sizeable categories such as these might consider discussing proposed changes first with the creator and/or main contributors to the categories. Thanks, Mattinbgn/talk10:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I uploaded an image from flickr today and forgot to change the file name. The file name in question is [File:Nested.jpg] The one that I want is an image of a forested valley and hills in Pennsylvania. The other is of some random woman. Could you change the name of one of them for me or just delete my upload and I'll do it over. Thanks. Dincher (talk) 15:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Your bot is causing itself version conflicts. See e.g. [3] where it first changed one category and when it changed the second it changed the first one back by taking the version before the first bot edit. -- Cecil (talk) 12:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Not certain that is avoidable with the current way the whole bot framework works with simultaneous processes. Should be easily fixable by just repeating the commands, I think. Siebrand23:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Your bot is deleting many pictures
I would just like to draw your attention to this as it is leaving many spaces unfilled around many wikipedias. Rhyshuw1 (talk) 21:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
sorry to have to put it bluntly, but there is no use reporting an issue without referring to an example. Siebrand15:10, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Frage
Ist gestattet dass ich folgende Datei ablade, sie bearbeite indem ich in dem Bild die französiche Wörter durch spanische ersetzte und dann dieses Bild mit neuem Namen hochlade? --Cornava (talk) 18:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it is. The derivative work must be published under the same license, and must credit the original author(s). Siebrand20:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Catuncat
Hoi Siebrand, ik heb net een nieuwe replace.py gecommit en in /home/multichill/ kan je de nieuwe commons-commands.py vinden. Multichill (talk) 08:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Siebrand, kan het om al mijn foto's door een eenmalige actie in één en dezelfde categorie onder te brengen nl. Files by User:Paul Hermans? Groet Paul Hermans (talk) 18:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Er is helaas niet een commando in pywikipediabot waarmee ik zoiets eenvoudig kan doen. Als je me een lijst levert, kan ik daar wel iets mee. Siebrand20:05, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Hallo, zou jij de afbeelding van de Blokhuispoort willen terug zetten. Deze foto staat onder meer op de hoofdpagina van de Friese Wikipedia. Het komt wat onbeschoft over om deze zonder overleg of wat er af te halen. Met vriendelijke groet --86.91.126.17211:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC), Behearder Fryske Wikipedy
Ik ken niets van de achtergronden. User:Kved heeft de afbeelding verwijderd. Ik denk dat je daar het beste kunt navragen. Overigens heb ik het idee dat er enige frustratie bij je zit; probeer die ofwel objectief aan het voetlicht te brengen ("ik baal ervan dat"), of laat het weg. Ik zou het bovenstaande kunnen opvatten als dat jij mij onbeschoft vindt, terwijl ik part noch deel heb aan wat je dwars zit. Andere gebruikers reageren wellicht minder prettig op een bovenstaand bericht. Groet, Siebrand17:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Mijn excusses, ik was inderdaad wat gefrustreerd geraakt, maar dat had vooral te maken dat iets zomaar op "ús haadside" notabene, foto's delete. --86.91.126.17220:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
OK, fijn dat we het hebben kunnen uitspreken. Er is (of beter was) een proces dat 'CommonsTicker' heet, dat je kan waarschuwen voor wijzigingen vanuit commons die impact hebben op lokale wiki's. Ik heb er met Multicill over gesproken, en we willen gaan proberen dat proces weer actief te krijgen. Siebrand10:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
SieBot Vandalism
What is the reason for Deborah Harry to Debbie Harry ?
18th century architecture by year to 18th century buildings by date; here year is correct.
I'm gonna report you for vandalism. Stop doing these unqualified moves of cats without discussion.
There is another example which I'm gonna undo because it is bullshit. --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 08:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
This procedure ist fucked up. It has to be possible to find out who gave an order to the bot. Apart from that in the end it's the owner of the bot who is responsible for the bot. --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 11:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Hallo! I have created the Category:Baroque figurines from Val Gardena with the intention to have a category of statuettes with the character of a en:figurine (small size) which are typical of a series of statues carved in Val Gardena in the 18th century. I wonder if it is possible to restore the category under the old name. Best regards --alpinus5 (talk) 11:26, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
CommonsDelinker problems on the English Wikipedia.
It has come to our attention that your bot has a bug: when it removes images, it does not remove any invisible characters (such as the left-to-right mark character) on either side of the image at the same time. When the image was used in a complex template, this leaves the template in a broken state that is very difficult for human editors to identify and repair. Example. This could be fixed by adding such invisible characters to the regular expression used by your bot.
w:en:User:Gimmetrow says that he has contacted you on several occasions regarding this, but the situation has not been corrected. It was also discussed at the Bot Approval Group here, and more recently on the English Wikipedia's Administrator Noticeboard here. Many are saying the bot should be blocked unless this error is corrected.
Gimmetrow demanded a fix threatening to block the bot several times. The bot removes all references to a certain image, nothing else. The template shouldn't contain these control characters in the first place. Multichill (talk) 13:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I understand your point of view. I'm just letting you know, the bot will probably blocked on en.wiki and replaced locally with a new bot that removes these characters at the same time, unless this change is made. Quadell(talk)15:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Are you really sure, that this edit [4] is correct? Is a museum shall be named as "Please provide a category name in English"? If you really wish to see english name YOU must translate it. I will not do this, 'case it isn't need for ru-wiki. #!George Shuklin (talk) 07:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi George. On Commons we have a policy that category names are always in English. Gallery names can be in any language. Because I intended to find and tag category names that were named incorrectly, I only tagged them so far, and have not yet taken the time to find someone to provide English names for them. Siebrand08:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Ports and harbours in Poland
There was discussion about movin' category Category:Ports in Poland to Category:Ports and harbours in Poland and You haven't listen it. (now it's here). Could You tell me why have changed name of that category especially when there were two votes to oppose changing? JDavid (talk) 09:40, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Botjes
Op Commons:Bots proberen een paar mensen om er net zo'n bureaucratische zooitje als de enwp van te maken. Wellicht dat jij ook even op de talk wil reageren. Multichill (talk) 13:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Are you able to provide a list of image that need to be recategorised? That would make it a lot easier. Plain text names or wiki links will do. Siebrand14:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Berlin images to History of Berlin
Hello Siebrand,
could just explain me why you move all uncategorized Berlin images to Category:History of Berlin? Now it's quite difficult to recategorize them (or categorized them better) as they don't contain the Uncategorized-BArch-Template anymore. Actually, it was a unnecessary and rather senseless action. --Jcornelius (talk) 20:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Aside from the fact that this happened almost half a year ago, this change was made by a bot - commons_category_redirect.py (seecat -> redirect). The edit before that points you to a real interactive this is responsible for the merge. I suggest you engage into talk with Foroa. Cheers! Siebrand11:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks but doesn't seem to be so easy to reverse. will have to create a new category from scratch. Ciao --alpinus5 (talk) 19:34, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Request for mediation
Hello, User:Foroa has recently done some quite controversial cat moves through operating your Siebot at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands. I am asking you for mediation in the hope to settle the matter in an amicable atmosphere, so that there is no need for an official request for removing the said user from operating the bot further. Foroa has shown a lack of knowledge of the subjects he moved or refused to move, combined with an increasingly irritating bossy behaviour. I will make it short here (but I am willing to prepare a lengthy and detailed case for an official request, to be sure): Specifically, he has removed several times my requested moves for several Roman bridges, but, when directly asked to give his reasons, displays a lack of actual knowledge about the category naming scheme for bridges. I gave a detailed point by point refutation of his views there. A similar inconsistent argumentation line is also evident at Category talk:South Tyrol, where it is easy to see that his proposed solution actually results in less incoherence both vis-a-vis other the naming system of other states as of the South Tyrol category. But worst of all, he moves categories against the explicit consensus of the community, scolding other users' opinions as "tendentious" and demanding them to 'not challenge him'. I feel this is not the right behaviour for a user entrusted with the bot, especially since, in all three topics, he hardly engages in discussions about his proposed moves. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Your suggestion to take the matter to the here is much appreciated, but without Siebrand nor Foroa as yet taking to the trouble to reply to even reply to the two requests, it is difficult to see about what exactly we should talk there. I am still for an informal, quick and amicable solution, but if this is not possible, it is hard to see how an official request for removing Foroa from operating the bot further can be avoided.
I have written about a third of all WP.EN articles on Roman bridges, uploaded a heap of pictures of those bridges, and reordered the whole Commnos category on Ancient Roman bridges, and I am really not in the mood to let this work be compromised by some user who feels he does not need to justify his actions on delinkers.
I can prove the reasonability of all my requested moves (but, seeing the difficulty of naming some bridges, I am nonetheless prepared to look for common ground), and I will do so certainly in an official request if no willingness to discuss Foroa's recent moves exist. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 20:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Disputes about categories and naming them are of all times. Sometimes what you want happens, sometimes it doesn't. Getting completely worked up about it rarely helps. At the moment I do not have the time to look into this case, flesh it out completely, interview involved parties, and suggest a way to resolve this. In general no category move can't be undone by moving it the other way, so no *real* harm is done. Chill, take distance, and reevaluate the case, trying to separate your feelings and the facts. I have no idea what this dispute is actually about. Look up similar named category schemes, and pick one. FYI: Tiberius_bridge_in_Rimini does not look like a category name following the (possibly unwritten) conventions I know. Cheers! Siebrand21:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
To me neither, so I wonder, too, why my request for moving the name has been declined three times by Foroa. He wants the name of bridges separated by comma from the place name (like "Golden Gate Bridge, San Francisco"), but the vast majority in Commons, as well as the iron rule in WP.EN, is the convention "Golden Gate Bridge (San Francisco)". Nearly all Ancient Roman bridges are named that way at Commons, so why is it so difficult for Foroa to just rename them accordingly? Gun Powder Ma (talk) 21:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
So far, I replied thoroughly on all discussions engaged by Gun Powder Ma scattered over the various category discussion pages and my talk pages. I have no more arguments to add and the here gives an appreciation from a third party. I have nothing more to add to my position and I have seen no new elements popping up. --Foroa (talk) 06:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Fairing gone.jpg
Hi! Sorry, I have seen too late, that the file Fairing gone.jpg has been marked for deletion and now it's already been deleted... Can you please tell me or post somewhere what copyright information was posted along with the picture so that I'm able to check for lack of information!? Thanks ColdCase (talk) 18:46, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
This bot [6] and the place is (look at history please) [7]
And there is another problem. I don't understed, look please at [8] and compare to this file at Rustamid, one pictor is deleted by bot and second File:Rustamid Dynasty 776 - 909 (AD).PNG I can't import to wikipedia french or this file File:Almoravid Dynasty 1073 - 1147 (AD).PNG at [9]
Everything you point to appears to be a valid redlink removal, exactly what CommonsDelinker is supposed to do. What is the problem? Siebrand21:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I have no idea. Could it be that those files are used as "Media:" instead of "File:"? If so, i think that is the cause. Siebrand17:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
That might be more in-depth Mediawiki than I can help with. I thought it might have been a timing problem since it also missed a couple subcategory moves, but I was able to change the order of the move cat's and get the bot to find those (see this followed by this). I could not get it to move those .ogg files though. Wknight94talk18:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I was confused. I thought you wanted to replace a.ogg by b.ogg in all Wikimedia projects, but you meant something else. Interesting. I'll have to look into that a little further. Cheers! Siebrand21:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
CommonsDelinker only removes from 1 line. Image links should not be spread over multiple lines. Siebrand05:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
hi, I use this topic because I want to know something. why is the delinker edeting my personal user page? I thought this is my place, where I can do whaterver I want even keeping links to previous deleted files? I just want to ask first, because I would like to redone the delinking, but the bit would repeat this some day later on. greets, --Andreas -horn- Hornig (talk) 12:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
SieBot is lazy noawadays. It stops several category moves in the middle and some moves have to be submitted up to three times before they complete. --Foroa (talk) 07:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Need some examples... And in case it happens, please do not restart, so I can look at it a little closer. Siebrand21:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Bot-Edit
Hallo Siebrand, I want to know who initiated these Bot edits [10]. Can't find anything on commonsdelinker. All 400 edits had to be undone manually. I don't want this to happen again!
--Cwbm (commons) (talk) 13:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
All 'Canyons of X' categories were named consistently[11]. It is not unthinkable that one of the renamed was out of context. Siebrand08:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
As you can see, all other cases are categories of canyons in some specific area (in some country or state). Kamenice River isn't a state nor a country, these are incomparable names. Please, read once more my remark which you are answer. Kamnitzklamm or Soutěsky Kamenice cannot be translated as "Canyons of Kamenice", that's an absolute nonsense. --ŠJů (talk) 11:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
You blocked this user's IP awhile back. She's now back and editing under the same IP again (User:74.74.75.181) - including harassment/threats. No one else edits under her IP, so a long block won't have collateral damage. Rklawton (talk) 11:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Hoi Siebrand, your bot removes obsolete versions of flags without replacing them. The correct version could have been found here. The simple removal leaves holes in articles. Isn't replacing the normal procedure instead of plain removal? Best regards, --Gereon K. (talk) 12:23, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it is, but if an administrator does not first replace, but remove, then CD will remove what remains. It has no knowledge of alternatives. Please reprimand the deleting admin, and tell him to fix. Siebrand17:41, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Removal of COAs
Following the deletion of dozens of COAs, this bot has removed redlinks from hundred of articles (which is of course what it was supposed to do). The problem comes as hundreds of articles in en.wikipedia now have to be fixed, but there's no way to track which articles lost their coa images. Is there anyway 1) a tag could be added to the talk pages which need a new coa image? or 2) a human readable log could be posted to the national projects and/or wikiproject Nations saying which articles what national coa's were removed from?
Baring this, it would seem reasonable to rollback the last 24 hours of delinkings so folks on the en.wikipedia can catch up. Contrary to what seems to be believed on Commons, most editors working on these articles had no idea the COAs were about to be deleted until it happened (0n a Saturday night, in North America), and are now scrambling.
I'm in no way "organizing" this cleanup, and probably not the person to inform. Just trying to calm what appear to be rather troubled waters on en.wiki. Thanks. T L Miles (talk) 16:26, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Easiest would be to check the edits of CommonsDelinker on en.wp, I guess. The edit summary notes what was done. Siebrand17:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
cat moves by SieBot
Hi there. Would it be possible to amend SieBot so as to replace (once the images have been moved to the new cat) the content of the old cat with a category redirection? This would help cat deletion, if necessary, and at least would not leave an empty cat that could be repopulated by further uploads. Unless there is a good reason not to do so, of course. Also, I don't know whether there are other bots doing the cat moves, so if you think this should be implemented, please communicate with the other bot operators... Thanks in advance, --Eusebius (talk) 09:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm rejecting this feature request. The reason is that those adding the category moves to the SieBot commands page have to manually clean up. After a move of category members, the remaining category page may have to be removed, redirected, repurposed, or whatever. The bot does not know what to do, and each action will have pros and cons, hence it does nothing. The same is true for moving to a not yet existing category. If a {{Move}} was on the source category, it has to be removed from the target category. Not too many admins are that active in this area. If you want one or more of them to change their ways, or need an explanation on a particular descision, I think it is best to approach them. Thanks for understanding. Cheers! Siebrand09:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, I guess you know what you're talking about. Apparently only the "repurposed" case does not benefit from a {{Cat redirect}}, and I personally don't do it very often, but maybe others do. What's the best way to discuss such things, you think? VP? AN? CFD? --Eusebius (talk) 10:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
AN. If there is consensus for a particular change amongst the admins that most frequently use the tool, I'm fine with adding it to the current code. I may not be able to code it myself, but I'll find someone who can. Siebrand12:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Aside from the slow loading link, I have no idea what you would like to tell me. CheckUsage.php is not a script I maintain, and it is not related to CommonsDelinker. Maybe you expected CommonsDelinker to make the removals really quickly. Well, there was a mass deletion and undeletion, and it looks like CD is still working on that. So I guess the file you deleted will also be in the queue somewhere. Siebrand08:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
CD got stuck in a look somehow. I have asked Multichill to look into it to prevent it from happening again in the future; meanwhile CD has been killed and restarted. This means that the above image will not be delinker automagically. Siebrand08:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Why are the images I post on the commons being replaced by newer duplicates?
Apparently some one else also moved some of the pictures that I already moved to the commons. Then you deleted the original uploads. It seems like it would be a lot more efficient to delete the newer versions of the file rather then the older one. Then you would not need to update the corresponding pages. I guess that no harm has actually been done, but seems like kind of a waste of time. M stone (talk) 02:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer. Multichill already joined the conversation on de.wp. You would not have to write in German. English would do it just as well, if you like. Greeting, --Revolus (talk) 14:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
One thing: Do you speak spanish? 'cause I'm from Argentina, and one of your bots has deleted the image Carolina Dieckmann. Contacte me and I'll tell you in spanish. Chumpitaz (talk) 22:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC).
hi, i'm sure you can find a picture for me, the name of the file, ceci_n'est_pas_un_doigt_d'honneur.png or jpg ! hey i've got to put it on my blog
http://hakim-djendi.blogspot.com/
To save spamming the history of pages where de-linker operates multiple times, Is it possible for the bot to amalgamate its actions before performing them. Recently the bot removed a lot of images from one page here, and it sorta flooded the history to some extent. Its not vital, but it would be nice :) 129.78.64.10304:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
add a sub-page in the user area of the wiki concerned (for example: [[User:CommonsDelinker/Logs]]) where he wrote everything he has done as the action, such as:
# 2009-05-27: Delete [[:File:...]], 5 uses in the wiki, requested by [[commons:user:the order' bot]]
This allows to monitor the actions of the bot in this list by following a single page and not to remove the bot flag. Thanks. Crochet.david (talk) 07:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but when he delete an image on Wikimedia Commons and when this image is used by a template in a wiki (not as a direct link), CommonsDelinker do nothing (it can't delete the red link). The aim of the log is to informe that an image was delete in commons and indicate that image is used.Crochet.david (talk) 13:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, you removed one of my pictures, noted: "The file Manhattan02.jpg has been removed, as it was deleted by Kameraad Pjotr because: Copyright violation: it is a derivative of a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wi)". In the picture were buildings in Manhattan. The raging bull was shown from the back. It wasn't even the main object and was not presented as such. As I understand, in such cases there is no violation of copyrights. Please undelete my picture and undo the relevant changes in other pages. Thank you, ST (talk) 13:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
To be specific, I mean this one edit. The bot leaves empty lines in places where images used to be. Maybe it's not very troublesome, but it messes the code a bit. Can it be fixed somehow? Lampak (talk) 21:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh I thought "'stable' toolserver switched location" meant CommonsDelinker was running off a new server, and maybe the logs were there too. Are the replaces done from a different server than the delinks? Wknight94talk22:55, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello ... I visited your page is not courtesy, but to explain why I deleted all my pictures, I would love to know the bases for you to do, the truth is that you are going.--Mairol (talk) 22:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Suggestion to add links in Siebot's edit summaries
The link to the user page is not really necessary. The most important is the link to the talk page. So the minimum improvement would be to provide a link to the creator's talk page. Teofilo (talk) 13:03, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi Siebrand. Can you please comment your deletion (Feb. 2008) and also the topic in general. Thanks. --Leyo12:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Example of SieBot doing category moves in bits and pieces (and eventually hanging ?)
As discussed earlier, starting from this morning, we have an example of SieBot doing category moves in bits and pieces (and eventually hanging ?). --Foroa (talk) 09:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Move from Category:Category:xy to Category:xy
Hi Siebrand, is Siebot executing tasks like {{movecat|Category:Fairy tales|Fairy tales}} to move the files from Category:Category:Fairy tales as I ordered here or are this requests ignored because of the Category: in the template? I thougt it was a good trick to move all this wrong categorized files :) --Martin H. (talk) 11:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Bot moves gladly from (non-)existing category to (non-)existing category. I use that frequently when bad names or Chinese/Japanese/Russian/... category names are used in Special:WantedCategories. --Foroa (talk) 13:26, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
I restarted it. Siebrand, we should think about some sort of check to notify us when the delinker stopped working. Multichill (talk) 20:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
There are many commands waiting for the delinker to replace files. My command was:
"Replace File:750px-Pbalson 20060527 IMG 3615 commons 2.jpg with File:Pbalson 20060527 IMG 3615.JPG across all Wikimedia projects. Reason: Was in category "Duplicate", exact duplicate"
Replacements were broken a few weeks ago - for an unknown reason. I have asked Bryan to look into fixing it immediately, but it appears he left... No ETA on getting this fixed. Siebrand10:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Bot flag on Thai Wikipedia
Hello Siebrand! My name is Harley Hartwell, an autoconfirmed (Not ADMIN) from Thai Wikipedia. I've seen an admin note on Commons Delinker's talk page on Thai Wikipedia. The administrator there would like you to request a bot flag here since your bot are making lots of edits that flood the recent changes there. If you don't request the bot flag and the bot is still running with many edits for multiple times, the admin there might block the bot due to the bot's edit flooded the recent changes list. Thank you for your understanding and I hope that bot will be granted bot status on Thai Wikipedia soon. --Harley Hartwell (talk) 15:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to assign the bot bit, or block the bot. CD is a service, and communities should deal with it as they please. As a policy, CD admins do not request bot bits for CommonsDelinker. Siebrand10:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Delinker malfunction!
Dear Siebrand, please stop your CommonsDelinker immediately from removing the Italian coat-of-arms images from articles on the German Wikipedia. Most of those arms are uploaded locally to this edition of Wikipedia and your bot removes tons of existing and valid image links from articles and lists and destroys tables. I do NOT have the time to undo every single edit and it will be much easier for us to deal with the few remaining redlinks than to check thousands of edits by your bot. Thanks! --Kazu89ノート07:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I soft-blocked your bot for one day. Please leave me a note on my talk page when you've configured the bot not to remove he Italian coat of arms for a while on dewiki. Greetings --Complex (talk) 15:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Just to be complete: the delinks will only be made into replacements if the target delink is inside "gallery" tags. Siebrand17:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Thx for your help Siebrand. But to be honest, I don't know how to use the DummyReplacements...What do I have to put in there? Categories, Filenames...?--Janurah (talk) 07:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thx a lot. Another question: is there any possibility to tell CommonsDelinker not to handle files in a certain category for some time? Otherwise we would have to revert all the actions as soon as we have uploaded the images. Greetings --Janurah (talk) 10:11, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Not possible. Only way is to have a local replacement with the same name within 10 minutes after removal from Commons. Siebrand22:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi, SieBot! This photo is in danger being erased. However, I am using this significantly improved version myself. Can you help me saving it? Thank you and best regards, --Manfred Heyde (talk) 19:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
User:SieBot have moved Creator:Andrea di Geminiano Poppi page from one directory to another but at the same time it moved other directory from noinclude tags, see here. You need to make sure that your bot does not accidentally alter which categories have noinclude tags, while editing templates. Greetings --Jarekt (talk) 13:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to use CommonsDelinker to rename files when such a change would be uncontroversial (e.g., to correct spelling errors)? The following two files require renaming to correct an obvious spelling error:
I've noticed that the CommonsDelinker interacts a little messily with the {{flagicon image}} template on english Wikipedia. The way the bot currently works, it replaces "{{flagicon image|Example_Non-free_Image.png}}" with "{{flagicon image|}}", leaving a big ugly "[[Image:|22x20px|border |]]" on the page where the little flag icon used to be. I was wondering, would it be possible to have the bot put the image File:Flag of None.svg in the template instead of just deleting the old image? It's a dummy icon we use when the flag image we need isn't available.
On the same topic, it feels like that CommonsDelinker is missing a lot of the replacements. Many of the image replacements are like Foo.svg and don't have either File: or Image: infront of it. Is there a way to fix CommonsDelinker so it could do stuff like this. User:Zscout370(Return fire)20:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
No. As there is no link table entry for the file, CD never gets to the page, and will never replace. However handy those templates work for humans, they are hell for bots. Siebrand22:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Only if those templates do not take into account that one or more of their parameters can be empty. If the page reference is there in the local image page, and the page text contains the image name, it will be removed. Siebrand15:33, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The template is fine (because I didn't design it myself...), but for some templates, the readers of the templates expect a reference to a file, a red link making more sense than nothing at all. Anyway, pointless remark I guess, it's just that the temporary removal of a promoted VI happened to cause issues in several other pages of the project. --Eusebius (talk) 15:46, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Bot hasn't changed, but worked after a restart just now. Guess that a very recent MediaWiki update made it work again. Siebrand21:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Rename Category:Iglesias de El Bierzo to Category:Churches in El Bierzo (42 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username. Iglesias de El Bierzo;Churches in El Bierzo;r;
Hoi Siebrand, ik zag dat je bot Category:Pont d'Iéna naar Category:Pont d'Iéna (Paris) verplaatst heeft. Zo op het eerste gezicht vind ik dat een minder fijne wijziging (een korte zoektocht leverde geen aanwijzigingen voor andere bruggen met dezelfde naam op), maar jij hebt de wijziging vast niet voorgesteld. Zou je me kunnen vertellen waar ik in vergelijkbare gevallen zou kunnen uitzoeken wie je bot de opdracht heeft gegeven en met welke motivering? Erik Warmelink (talk) 12:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it was first deleted, and then this deletion was some time later reverted. In thise case, your bot should reflect this as well and UNDO its Delinking, because otherwise it just causes unnecessary extra work for people, like it did here, instead of relieving us of stupid repetitive tasks, as it set out to do.
Hi Siebrand! Me again about the same problem. This is still very nerving. Couldn´t you tell the bot not to remove images in the project room? Chaddy (talk) 12:46, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Why not? And how to solve the problem in de-WP (I don´t know if other projects have the same problem)? Adding {{Nobots}} to all relating pages is a bit laborious... Chaddy (talk) 18:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
If pages must stay unchanged, you can also protect them. Otherwise the occasional revert shouldn't be too much trouble. Siebrand06:55, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
why ?
User:SieBot "Moving from Hình truyền lên bởi thành viên Lưu Ly to An Dinh Residence (following category redirect)"[16] ???????????? Lưu Ly (talk) 12:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
There you can read that all categories need to be in English, but galleries can be in a different language. We're talking about a category here. Multichill (talk) 09:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I noted you worked on the "extract" image tag. At the Category:Images for extraction, there is no Talk and there is generally no "project" or similar link from related pages I checked.
Is there something like an "image improvement and extraction" Project or workgroup?
We are pondering at COM:TOL whether add about 3 times as many extraction requests as there are already pending. Also there is the idea to introduce a number of additions or replacements to the category system. People who utilize the "Images for extraction" cat would probably be interested to join in. 04:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Would you be ok to modify the bot moving categories so that it accepts an additional parameter in the move cat template, telling him to add a {{Cat redirect}} template on the former category page? I don't ask it to be the default behaviour, since we haven't been able so far to converge on a consensus about what to do, but at least the option of using it could limit the number of empty category deletion without any mention of the target cat. Thanks in advance! --Eusebius (talk) 06:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Again, I think that this redirect insert can be the default behaviour if the source category does exist. Even when deleting the source category afterwards, it will generate the right edit summary. In the rare cases that the source category needs to be conserved, an undo will be very quick. --Foroa (talk) 16:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello, your bot is doing very good work, but I would like to make a suggestion (though I don't know if that's technically possible at all). The CommonsDelinker always uses a different summary when it replaces an image with another, likeiwse: "Replacing Foo.jpg with Bar.jpg, as ordered by Some admin: Exact duplicate". However, when SieBot moves a cat, it only says: "Robot: Moving category Foo to Bar". Now, I think it would be great if the bot could say something like: "Moving category Foo to Bar, as ordered by Some admin: Proper capitalization". This way, people could see the reason and the person who made the request. This is easier then to understand and to complain if necessary. It's almost impossible to find the one who made the request in the awfully long history of User:CommonsDelinker/commands. Would something like this be possible? Let me know. Thank you. --The Evil IP address (talk) 10:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
CD and SieBot are two different bots. If you can write this feature in python for me, please let me know and I can provide you the script sources, and I will test and run it with the change. Siebrand14:59, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
removing autocategorization from creator pages
Hi, I would like to ask your opinion about using CommonsDelinker to help me tackle the removal of autocategorization from images using old-style creator pages. In the old days it was recommended that creator pages contain category with the name of the creator. That way all the images using creator pages were automacically categorized into those categories. This causes a problem that such images are very hard to place into more logical subcategories like "Photographs by ...". See more here. I am slowly tacking creator pages with large number of images and use my bot user:JarektBot to reorganize such categories by adding appropriate categories to all the images and removing autocategorization from the creator page. I was thinking abut using CommonsDelinker to fix couple thousands of rarely used creator pages. For example creator:Fidelis Schabet autocategorizes into Category:Fidelis Schabet. To fix that I would like to make sure that each image in that category has line "[[Category:Fidelis Schabet]]" in it. I think "Rename Category:Fidelis Schabet as Category:Fidelis Schabet" would work better than "<fixed text><cat>Fidelis Schabet</cat><text>Category:Fidelis Schabet</text></fixed text>" to achieve that. I would like to run a small test on a small category, and if it works than I would like to pass commands for fixing few thousands categories. --Jarekt (talk) 21:09, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I would advise you to approach Multichil. I trust him to be able to change my bot code, and aside from running my bots, I have very little time to contribute to Commons at the moment... Siebrand07:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Dag Siebrand, bedankt voor het verwijderen van de systeemteksten. Het is grotendeels wel goed gegaan maar er zijn heel wat dingen tussendoor geglipt, maar dat maakt niet uit op die manier kan ik gelijk alle wat oudere systeemberichten verbeteren. 92.254.96.17423:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Please find anyone working on JavaScript. I'm just too much out of it at the moment, and too occupied with other things. Sounds like a nice to have addition. Siebrand23:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Sure, and I removed it myself. That's not my point, though. The bot edits templates without knowing about the side effects. I'm aware that semantics is difficult. I'm merely asking that the bot leaves a notification on the talk page whenever a match occurs inside a template, rather than changing it without knowing about the side effects. The work required stays the same, but the solution is cleaner, not leaving broken templates hanging for possibly long time spans. Regards, Paradoctor (talk) 15:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Siebrand! I just saw the Commons Delinker working; great Bot! Thanks for creating this software! Greetings from Bonn, germany --Sir James (talk) 20:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Siebrand; If one is not alert when moving files, it is possible to overlook the need to edit the new filename into the line to be pasted into User:CommonsDelinker/commands.[17] The result is that CommonsDelinker replaces instances of the old file name with "File:New image.ext". The instructions could be improved, but I wonder if CommonsDelinker might ignore and flag commands to replace filenames with "File:New image.ext".
[18][19] Thank you, Walter Siegmund(talk)00:38, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I think that [20] is a major mistake, probably made worse by the fact that SieBot don't use a cooldown period anymore on category redirects since a couple of weeks. --Foroa (talk) 18:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
It is not a real problem when unknown; once it is known, with a couple of well chosen redirects, massive merges/uncategorisations can be done into one single category. I did not manage to find the delay logic, but as it is standing now, anyone can merge/move categories in a couple of minutes/hours without any sort of control. So, it certainly needs some cooldown period unless we have a bot that can easily undo such moves. I think that we need a central category move logging. As it is working now, too many bots are moving categories without any sort of overall view. --Foroa (talk) 19:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
To avoid any problem, can you block Siebot? After all it's Russbot and not Siebot that does the redirects. -- User:Docu at 19:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
The cooldown period works with RussBot. Not sure why SieBot attempts to do these moves too. -- User:Docu at 21:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
There are several bots doing those moves. I fail to see why {{Category redirect}} is bad (apart from loosing a little bit of history information). It is suggested in the category rename guide and is by far the procedure that needs the least work (for non-disputable moves). --Foroa (talk) 17:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Ok. Siebrand disabled the category redirect for now so I unblocked the bot. I looked into the code and i'm afraid someone broke the code the get the last edit. This will also break the cooldown code. Multichill (talk) 14:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
To fix the rare problem Foroa mentions, "imagemap" needs to be defined in the "exceptionRegexes" (around line 4103 in wikipedia.py) and then added where "def removeCategoryLinks", "def replaceCategoryInPlace" (and possibly some others) call replaceExcept. -- User:Docu at 15:43, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Siebrand; I wonder if you might add a 5 minute delay to CommonsDelinkerHelper? That may have enabled me to correct the missing extentions for two files that I renamed just now.[21]. Also, perhaps CommonsDelinkerHelper might check for valid extensions. Thank you, Walter Siegmund(talk)19:47, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
There were some server issues yesterday. My interwiki bots that I run from home crashes on it; I assume the toolserver bots did that same. Doing checks and restarting... Should be up in a few mins. from now. Siebrand23:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Your bot moved Category:Laubenhäuser to Category:Alcove houses. I cannot find any evidence that "alcove house" is the correct translation of "Laubenhaus". The "Laubenhaus"/"Löwinghuus" is a specific type of house common in the Mark of Brandenburg. Is "alcove house" really the technical term for this? --Slomox (talk) 12:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. But then I have another suggestion to Siebrand: Perhaps your bot should include some information in the summary about who issued the command or how to obtain this information. --Slomox (talk) 17:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
That sounds very difficult. The bot is running commands placed in COM:CDC. It would need to somehow figure out which user added the particular commands it was running. The way I found out so quickly was by checking who deleted the old category - but some don't get deleted. Wknight94talk17:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Categories modifications
hello,
When you modify a category, please, don't invert the order with interlinks (diff). We should have the categories first and then interlinks and not vice versa. Thank you. Okki (talk) 18:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Possible bug in User:CommonsDelinker bot
I was told this is the right place to mention this.
This edit left a space in front of the paragraph following the image, which broke the normal formatting and put the paragraph in plain text. Normally when you place an image inline, you wouldn't think to leave no whitespace before your text on the off chance that a bot will delete it. it would be better if the bot deleted all spaces following the the image. In this case, the page would have looked better with a broken image than with garbled formatting. Thanks! --Dbratland (talk) 04:43, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
The move has been requested here. In principe, most of the categories are containing photos/images of yyy, so those redundant constructs that pop up all the time, are (almost) systematically renamed. --Foroa (talk) 07:19, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
CD will only edit one line. Somehow someone thought breaking up a URL into multiple lines was a good idea. I tend to disagree, and do not see this as an issue in CD. Siebrand14:06, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, are you sure it is a good idea to claim that those parks are National as well as by the State of Florida? The Old cat Category:National Parks in Florida was much more logical, as these Parks are administrated by the Federal Government but happen to be in Florida. Not to mention, that the cat is miserably defined and contains mostly "parks" that aren't parks by any standard anyway. Who discussed this where please? --h-stt!?16:19, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
CommonsDelinker confusing local images with same filename
CommonsDelinker recently tried to replace an image on enwiki, Image:Shenandoah.jpg; however, the image being used in that article was actually a different image with the same name on enwiki. The problem was worked around by renaming the image on enwiki, but I thought you might want to know so this issue can be fixed. Fran Rogers (talk) 05:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, I thought the bot checked for this case. Will ask a developer to look into it. Thanks for mentioning it. Siebrand22:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Can you please stop the bot from moving these categories together, it's getting very tedious to revert it when the question of the category name not having been settled.
See User:CommonsDelinker/commands for whomever may be giving the command. As you have neither specified your user name, not mentioned the exact categories that you are referring to, I cannot give you more information. Also, I would advise to not revert, but discuss. Undiscussed reverts and re-reverts only lead to unnecessary drama. Siebrand07:49, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
request
I delete many images from Bengali Wikipedia, Is it possible to same work with this bot(customized) with my deleted image as it done? It is so lengthy work to do, go every page and delete red image link. Please help me.Jayanta Nath (talk) 18:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Hoi Siebrand, please have a look at [22]. I used one of your bot edits as an example there. Of course, it's not meant against you or your bot's work :-) --:bdk:17:48, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
The problem there is separating intentional redirects from leftovers by image moves. There might be a reason to always have a redirect "File:Elections poll of current week.jpg" that would redirect you to the latest poll results. I guess you could check the reason for creation of the redirect in the log, but it will always be a guess I presume. TheDJ (talk) 17:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Why was MY OWN picture deleted from "Mein Nachbar Totoro"?
I replied on my talk page. Everything is said by it depicts a copyrighted work which is not published under a free license.. --Polarlys (talk) 13:59, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Eenzelfde vraag heb ik hier ook over File:7.3 Jeannette van Zutphen (4).jpg, het staat er weliswaar nog maar waarom draag je deze voor om te verwijderen, kan je niet lezen wat er in de omschrijving staat, dit is vrije content beheerd door Willem van Doorn en vrij heeft exact dezelfde betekenis als waar het woord werkelijk voot staat, vrij --Dirksmusicarchives (talk) 08:54, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Would you mind if I edit your user talk page messages to suggest users to contact the person who operated your bot directly. I think it avoids some back-and-forth. -- User:Docu at 05:05, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
A peculiar case of CommonsDelinker misbehaving (kind of)
Hello, CommonsDelinker recently performed a series of annoying links removal on fr.wp. To sum it up, the situation is as follows : since there is no "freedom of panorama" in France, Commons used to house a heap of pictures of recent buildings located in France that were illegal and had to be deleted. A bot has been programmed and sysoped on wp.fr to reimport said pictures locally (where they are tolerated), before they were deleted on Commons. Problem is, CommonsDelinker then removes the supposedly red links pointing to deleted media without checking whether the file exists locally. I understand that this is quite the opposite of the usual situation (pictures are usually migrated from WP to Commons, not the other way around). Would it be doable to implement such a check ? Thanks in advance ! --MAURILBERT(discuter)22:27, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
It does check if the files exist locally. However, replication lag at the toolserver may cause issues if the timing is close. Siebrand23:55, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Not that I know. If you see a way to implement it, please propose a patch to the pywikipediabot commonsdelinker/delinker.py that we use. Siebrand22:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Basic fixes
Hi Siebrand,
You might want to add Commons:Tools/pywiki file description cleanup to SieBot (category renamings). If you add it (not to CommonsDelinker), I would monitor it initially and deal with user queries.
Please rewrite CommonsDelinker for independence to Toolserver
Hi. As you know, CommonsDelinker is currently down due to Toolserver DB down. Since Check usage tool which is used by CommonsDelinker is substituted by GlobalUsage tool. GlobalUsage also provide API query for machine. Would you rewrite CommonsDelinker to make it less dependent to Toolserver database? Thank you. – Kwj2772 (msg) 10:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Please provide a patch if you are able to. CommonsDelinker is in the pywikipediabot subversion repo. Siebrand20:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Let me cite from move template: "Upon reaching a clear consensus..." There were no clear consensus for moving, so I remove template. But you decided to rename category without clear support. --Ragimiri (talk) 16:36, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Google claims: Komonzuraisensuporishi (title) File and is not allowed by Komonzuraisensuporishi, what do you mean? Please let us know. (message). Cheers. --Diego Grezreturn fire20:22, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I got that far, and have learned not to trust Google Translate whenever its result looks fishy. --Siebrand20:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
First I owe you a huge apology. I had been working with Category:young women over the last week. A Categories for discussion was opened to determine what to do with the whole Category:young women since the word "Young" is very arbitrary. I also created several sub-categories in an attempt to remove the "Too crowded tag" from the Category:young women. After some discussion with other users several of the categories I created were merged with other non-young women categories. Since I agreed with their idea and I created the categories, I started to move the images tagged the categories with the speedy delete tag since. I had started this process with Category:Nude young women. After the fact, I realized that I didn’t create this category, but you did. I honestly got confused.
So I apologize.
I am offering to fix the files is you ask me to. However I am asking first so that, so if you agree with me or don't care I don't have to put them back only to shift them back later after the Deletion request is close.
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Re this edit: why on earth did the bot add [[Category:Images from the Geograph British Isles project]]? It was totally wrong. An image is placed in that category by the {{Geograph}} tag which was already present. That template generates an highly specialised sortkey. Adding the category again destroyed that key. Please fix the bot immediatement. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 06:55, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Aargh, behavior of the categories() function was changed without bothering to check what this would cause, I reverted it. Bot should be updated though. Multichill (talk) 12:54, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
SieBot is now running r8182, a rev after which Multichill reverted to the original (non-API) call. That change was made on May 6 in r8149. Apparently, and luckily, I didn't update my code until May 13. Multichill, can you write a script to check the edits in the date range given above to fix the awful mess - is that possible even? There's no use going about checking 10k edits by hand, I think... --Siebrand16:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
If revertbot.py works as it should, it could be modified to deal with the 1805. I don't have a bot a account to run this on though. Afterwards, we could redo the category moves of 13-16. -- User:Docu at 13:40, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Please don't fix but comprehensively. Multichill promised me on IRC he'll do his bot magic to fix it. As in essence it is nothing critical, just polluting, there is no damage done if this takes a few weeks before it is done, just as long as it gets done. Siebrand17:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if revertbot.py could undo the edits if there are subsequent edits to a page. Thus I wouldn't wait too long for the 1805 pages. The Navy images can wait or could be done through cosmetic_changes.py while doing other things. -- User:Docu at 00:06, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
CommonsDelinker feature request
Hello, as it's your bot, would you be able to comment here if it's realistically doable to add a trigger to CommonsDelinker to universally replace a file after it has been renamed. Thanks, --The Evil IP address (talk) 15:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Is there any possibility of a mass copy function being added to CommonsDelinker/commands? Like move cat, but without removing the old category. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:58, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
You should probably run your own bot and run the commands at will with "category.py add -<[cat|catr|subcats|subcatsr]:CategoryName>". Extracted from the command documentation:
[..]
Scripts to manage categories.
Syntax: python category.py action [-option]
where action can be one of these:
* add - mass-add a category to a list of pages
[..]
If action is "add", the following options are supported:
-cat Work on all pages which are in a specific category.
Argument can also be given as "-cat:categoryname" or
as "-cat:categoryname|fromtitle" (using # instead of |
is also allowed in this one and the following)
-catr Like -cat, but also recursively includes pages in
subcategories, sub-subcategories etc. of the
given category.
Argument can also be given as "-catr:categoryname" or
as "-catr:categoryname|fromtitle".
-subcats Work on all subcategories of a specific category.
Argument can also be given as "-subcats:categoryname" or
as "-subcats:categoryname|fromtitle".
-subcatsr Like -subcats, but also includes sub-subcategories etc. of
the given category.
Argument can also be given as "-subcatsr:categoryname" or
as "-subcatsr:categoryname|fromtitle".
Hi Siebrand, the Delinker appears to be inactive again, i.e. some of the batches are removed from the command page but not executed. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 20:31, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I received Reviewers access on en.Wiki recently and while adding the userbox to my userpage, I noticed something that will notice (if you are a US editor)....the Reviewers logo looks just like the CBS logo. Take a look. The "eye" in the Reviewers logo is slightly smaller, but it is just like the CBS logo. The Reviewers logo was created by Polish user Derski, so he probably wasn't aware of the CBS logo. Also, the Reviewers logo has a "This media file may meet the criteria for speedy deletion" message and a "This file is a copyright violation..." message. With those, I feel that we should get a couple good logo makers and create a new Reviewers logo that isn't close to the CBS logo for obvious copyright reasons. This has begun a long discussion on en.Wiki here. Other users are requesting it be moved to Commons as the Reviewers logo is hosted here. We have a blue arrow logo (nicknamed the "fast forward" logo by some) ready to go in SVG format in its place (created by en.Wiki admin Gwen Gale and SVG'd by editor Anomie). Since you are the only admin I know here, could you direct this to the correct Commons board (the Commons equivlant of en.Wiki's ANI) or have Commons admins post on the en.Wiki thread here. Thanks! - NeutralHomer • Talk • 17:26, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Indeed and with the Reviewers logo looking the same, almost alike, I think it would go for that same public domain inelligibility. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 18:00, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Hey :). Our policy is to not request any bits for CommonsDelinker. Feel free to provide any access level you as a community wish to provide to CommonsDelinker. Siebrand21:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Problem with the Delinker?
Hi, I saw a problem with the work of the delinker yesterday.
I renamed a file and put it to the delinker_talk page. Some time later it has been transfered to the main of the delinker and only a few seconds later it's deleted by the delinker_help "Removing images being processed". But all usages are still the old ones, the source uses the redirect to the new file.
here user:ZooFari moved all requests from "talk" to "main" 2010/06/20 17:34 [27] and [28]
also at 17:34 the commons helper removed all the requests [29]
Other files worked by the delinker normaly are fine in all WP projects when delinker_talk says "Removing images being processed" but when I take a look here on CheckUsage of the "old" filename File:Sipuncula.jpgCheckUsage
or alternative one of the usages (not renamed until now:) here de:Spritzwürmer
Thanks for letting me know. This is a know issue that has been resolved a while ago. Multichill will run a bot in due time to fix the edits that need fixing. Siebrand20:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Hoi Siebrand. Vanochtend zag ik dat Kameraad Pjotr m.b.v. CommonsDelinker een afbeelding liet verwijderen op w:nl:USS Darlington (en vast vele andere plaatsen). Mij viel daarbij op dat de caption/onderschrift van de afbeelding wel blijft staan, maar op deze wijze geen zin heeft. Is het niet mogelijk dat CommonsDelinker dit veld ook leeghaalt, indien de afbeelding wordt verwijderd? Al kan ik me voorstellen dat het een probleem geeft, omdat het in een sjabloon zit ingebakken. Groet, Pompidom (talk) 11:15, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
The tool to move categories by SieBot should be supplemented with required treatment of the old category (the old category page should be compulsorily furnished with {{Seecat}} tag or delete tag and emptied). Some users move categories (using SieBot?) and keep old categories empty and untreated (see User talk:ŠJů#Categories moved) and it's needlessly difficult to treate them behindhand and manually. --ŠJů (talk) 22:23, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Agree it is tedious. Perhaps the command template can be modified so that a paramter is oldcataction=delete/redirect. ZooFari01:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
By default, it can leave a {{Category redirect}}. This would significantly accelerate the deletion process too if needed as the edit summary for such deletions (nuke) is automatically correct. --Foroa (talk) 11:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've come across this crazy looking map made with errors which goes against the 4 CIA ethnolinguistic maps. I was wondering if you can delete this now or leave a comment on it. I hate seeing maps made with missing ethnic groups. Thanks!--Officer (talk) 03:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
This map is not helpful but instead creating huge problems. Someone with political agenda created this map which washes away some ethnic groups and makes another group smaller and this leads to uprisings by some ethnic groups in Afghanistan when their leaders see this online. This is why deadly attacks on western forces in Afghanistan are on the rise because some of those Afghans think that they are being ethnic cleansed by the western armies. If you are a westerner, you are putting your own soldiers at risk.--Officer (talk) 20:10, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Don't really see why you are canvassing, but the general opinion appears to be keep. I have nothing to add. Siebrand20:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
This map is missing several ethnic groups as I explained and the people who prepared this map won't allow the CIA maps in Wikipedia, they use this one instead. Nobody has time to be patrolling Wikipedia everyday. Those who decided to keep this map the last time based their argument that the map is used in many Wikipedia articles. But now it is not used so it should be ok to delete it. You've deleted similar kind maps before so that's why I came to you for help on this one.--Officer (talk) 00:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Pywikipediabot sometimes is not able to save certain articles. No idea why, and I'm not going to investigate it. As long as the issue isn't too big, I'm leaving it this way. Siebrand15:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Siebrand, I don't complain about the changes from categories of the type “Neuenkirchen (Lüneburger Heide)” to type “Neuenkirchen, Lüneburger Heide”. But as I wasn't warned I produced several more “Neuenkirchen (Lüneburger Heide)” categories before I got aware of the changes. Currently we have an uncomely mix of both category types. Therefore I'm asking you to run your bot again. It would be convenient for me to have the categories consistent before I upload about 400 more images of Neuenkirchen.
Hello, your bot is doing weird moves, like this one. I don't know why he did that, since "lithographies" is perfectly correct as plural for lithography.--Darwin (talk) 01:38, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Weird bot moves : Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace ==> French Air and Space Museum
Hello,
"Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace" is not a generic name but a specific one. There are other museum dedicated to Air and Space in France but only one with this name. Did you rename Deutsches Museum German Museum ? Pline (talk) 11:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
You really have to ask Duesentrieb. I think CT is a great tool, but as far as I know it hasn't been working for years... Siebrand18:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi. You changed the category of this image file to a building category, but it's an Anglican church as background to a Masonic gravestone. It's the gravestone (pillar or column shape) which is of interest in the image, and it's not a building. I don't know how to re-categorise it correctly, but the gravestone is not a Masonic building. Please reply on my talk page. Thanks.Storye book (talk) 12:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Siebrand, I saw that one of the categories I recently worked on, Magnolia fruit and seeds (originally Magnolia Fruits and seeds) was renamed. As the history of that category is no longer accesible (at least not for me) and you were the only user I saw associated with that name change, I suspect you are the one who renamed it. I believe I was the one who created the category but as I can't see the history anymore, I'm not sure.
Now I'm a bit puzzled: I can understand that "Fruit" should be spelled with an initial undercast, instead of a capital F. But why does "fruit" have to be in singular and "seeds" in plural form? I thought the category depicted "fruits and seeds" of a range of different Magnolia species. And if the rule is to name categories in singular form, shouldn't "seed" then also be in singular? And for comparison: the categories Magnolia cultivars and Magnolia hybrids are also in plural form, which seems quite right to me.
Oh, and by the way: I know that the plural of "fruit" can also be "fruit" (without a trailing "s") but that must be in another sense of the word, probably when the word refers to edible fruit or to the total of the harvest. Throughout the Magnolia literature (the majority of which is written by native British and American English authors) the plural "fruits" is used when authors refer to more than one fructification. - Wikiklaas (talk) 12:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
¿Is there a problem with CommonsDelinker if I use a template that encapsulates [[image:file.jpg|thumb|description]] instead of using it directly ?
regards, --Cvmontuy (talk) 00:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
CommonsDelinker
Hi. There seems to be a problem with the CommonsDelinker, at least on de.wikinews.org. Not only that it deletes images from basically archived articles - and changes the content doing this, and so we basically have to look after all the edits it does whether it deleted text from the article or not -, the last two edits were wrong: It deleted two images instead of replacing them. Could you please try to fix this? Regards, --Angela H. (talk) 17:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I can. "The last two edits" at that time were this one and that one. The images should have been replaced (by the images with the names given in the description), but they were deleted. Regards, --Angela H. (talk) 10:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
A Commons administrator deleted the images before they had been replaced. That's avoidable human error. Please point this out to the deleting administrator. Siebrand09:50, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi. This may be a silly question, but a bot of mine depends on the bot-bit to separate bots from flesh-and-blood users. On many wiki's Commonsdelinker seems to be an ordinary user. Is this on purpose or by oversight? Kleuske (talk) 17:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Deciding on bot status for CommonsDelinker is up to the local communities. Basically, we don't care, mainly because requesting a bot bit on all 800 or so Wikimedia wikis is not doable, and the local communities should decide for themselves if they want the edits of CD hidden or not. Siebrand10:40, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok. Fair enough. I'll just put CD in a "trusted bots" list and ignore it. A few other bots badly need placing aswell. Keeping some central administration of who'se a (trusted) bot and who'se not would save me some footwork, though. And you too. Perhaps a good idea? Kleuske (talk) 14:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
They're called global bots (see somewhere on meta:), but the wiki community has to opt-in for the global bot concept. Siebrand22:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I reverted this edit of Common Delinker on el.wiktionary because the file Pl-kamizelka.ogg does not exist. Please, see what the problem is and contact me if it's no trouble. --Flyax (talk) 15:22, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Looking at this a bit more, it seems (if I'm right) that what's happened is as follows: a commons admin (Jarekt) has misread the documentation for the universal replace command, and assumed it includes renaming the files concerned (when in fact it doesn't do that). So what clearly needs to be done is: (a) Jarek, please swiftly rename the files by what ever means, so the red links get mended; (b) someone add a bright warning to the documentation to prevent the same misunderstanding being made again; (c) whoever programs the bot, make sure that in the future it rejects replace requests if the target file doesn't exist (I would say this is a pretty high-priority bug). Does that make sense? --Kotniski (talk) 12:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I was quite sure I used this process in the past and it performed renames as well. O well I will rename them by hand. Or is there a bot that can do it faster? --Jarekt (talk) 13:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, but I'd still appreciate a reply from Siebrand or another bot programmer about how this problem can be prevented in the future (as per my suggested actions above).--Kotniski (talk) 11:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
But software can help prevent or mitigate human error, right? Would it be difficult to make this change? It seems pretty basic.--Kotniski (talk) 18:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Please give it a try; the software is in the Subversion repository for pywikipediabot. We will gladly accept high quality patches to CommonsDelinker. Siebrand22:50, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, thanks, you want someone else to spend ages learning the architecture of this bot, when someone who already knows it could presumably fix the problem in a few minutes? If you don't want to recode it, then can you at least update the documentation to stop similar misunderstandings?--Kotniski (talk) 07:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
As you can see in the edit summary ("il file Raniero_e_Luca.jpg è stato rimosso in quanto cancellato da Commons da EugeneZelenko"), it was User:EugeneZelenko who deleted the file. You'd better ask him. I just run the bot that tries to keep things tidy. Siebrand13:17, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
I see the tags on that page but once I ave created them what pages do I put them on? The page to be delinked or the page to link to, or somewhere else entirely? Nothing is said about it there. Maps & Lucy (talk) 19:07, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Vragen over plaatjes
Hallo Siebrand, er staan hier meerdere afbeeldingen waarbij ik zo m'n twijfels bij heb m.b.t. auteursrechten. De grootste twijfels heb ik bij:
File:Rbi-8-O Psalm.jpg - en dan vooral (maar niet alleen) de oudere versie van 1462×990 waarbij de tekst nog duidelijk te lezen is
File:Koninkrijksdienst.jpg - de voorkant van een publicatie waarbij de layout duidelijk herkenbaar is maar de tekst niet
Van dezelfde uploader zijn al heel wat afbeeldingen verwijderd waar het allemaal wat duidelijk lag dat het auteursrechtelijk niet in orde was, maar de twijfelgevallen blijven nu dus over. Van de eerste is [Commons:Deletion requests/File:Koninkrijksdienst.jpg hier] al door de uploader een 'Deletion request' ingediend n.a.v. een discussie op diens OP op nl-wiki om het zodoende aan de Commons-gemeenschap voor te leggen. Aangezien jij als Commons-admin beter in deze materie zit, bij deze mijn verzoek aan jou om naar deze 4 bestanden te kijken. - Robotje (talk) 14:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Coats of arms of the Bundeswehr
Could your SieBot be so kind to undo changes in the Category:Coats of arms of the Bundeswehr. To some of the subcategories the bot added a "the" after the common "Coats of arms of". Example: Category name was Coats of arms of Staff Support Battalions (Bundeswehr) and became Coats of arms of the Staff Support Battalions (Bundeswehr). First it's kind of odd to add a the only to some of the subcategories hereby confusing to an unnecessary extent. I really like to the same simple scheme in that category. I.e: Coats of arms Staff Support Battalions (Bundeswehr) - without "the" and "of". Second, the "the" is - as far as I know - kind of uncommon and unneccessary in that place in English language, especially when the article "the" is used for non-English words. Adding a "the" seems to me so German (or Dutch). So I ask you kindly: Could your rebot redo that? --TUBS08:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
I was advised by your bot that my sysop rights were removed because I did not sign some page (which, incidentally, was put up during the summer vacations). I distinctly recall signing this page. What is this mess? David.Monniaux (talk) 11:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't recall SieBot doing that. SieBot can place announcements to a list of user pages; that might have been it, but it was not initiated by me. Can you please point me to the specific edit? Thanks. Siebrand19:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
(It would be helpful if the Siebot's announcement or edit summary could say who initiated the message, otherwise replies tend to come back to Siebrand.)
Clear case where the message should have contained a forum where to respond. Unfortunately there's not too much I can do about this. :( Siebrand13:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
But: I would like to have a bit better edit comments by the bot. I cannot see who ordered the bot and why the move was made. Maybe you can insert something there for future edits. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 21:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Siebrand 23:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
ablade, sie bearbeite indem ich in dem Bild die französiche Wörter durch spanische ersetzte und dann dieses Bild mit neuem Namen hochlade? --Cornava (talk) 18:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
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Comment: I blocked the bot to prevent more such mistakes. Please unblock it when it's fixed. --The Evil IP address (talk) 19:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
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