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re: Picture source and rights
Sorry for my late answer, I don't have time anymore to contibute to Wikipedia, and I don't check my accounts often. Your question regarding the copyright status of those images about Horthy is difficult to answer, basically i haven't got the faintest idea. Best wishes Cserlajos (talk) 20:34, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello,
Do you mind uploading your version of this as a separate image? The version I uploaded is actually a crop of this particular image (e.g. look at the antlers mounted on the wall) and my source information will not apply to the version you found. I think we should thus treat both versions as 2 separate images and for now I'm reverting back to the original. Thanks. BrokenSphere 01:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
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Map translation
Hi. I saw that you translated my map of Hungary during WWII into Spanish language, so I wonder can you translate one other map into Spanish as well? I draw this map of the Roman Prefecture of Illyricum in 2005, but I recently uploaded an improved version of that map: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Prefecture.png The thing is, somebody translated older version of this map into Spanish, as you can see here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PrefectureIllyricum.png So, the Spanish version should be also improved as English one, but since user:Waldoz who uploaded Spanish version is no longer active here, can you translate this improved map version into Spanish and upload it instead of the old Spanish version? PANONIAN (talk) 19:19, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Good work with map translation - I just made few minor aesthetic changes in it and also translated map legend into Spanish (I copy-pasted that legend from the article in Spanish Wikipedia, so would you check is that translation good since I do not speak Spanish and I do not know is that a correct translation from English). PANONIAN (talk) 14:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
File source is not properly indicated: File:UkrainianDelegationAtBrestLitovsk.jpeg
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Mistake in one map
Please see this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Slovakia1941_02_ES.svg PANONIAN (talk) 08:38, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Is that images covered by Commons:Bundesarchiv? It not comes from the upload of that cooperation. --Martin H. (talk) 17:22, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Ehm, also your other "Bundesarchiv" uploads... Only images uploded in the batch upload are cc-by-sa, the rest from the Bundesarchiv and in the Bundesarchiv database is protected by copyright and not free. Or do you have individual permission? --Martin H. (talk) 17:24, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Damn, thats a worse thing you did here! E.g . File:Bundesarchiv Bild 146-1971-039-44, Kurt Eisner.jpg is a blatant copyright infringement, the image is clearly not included in the cooperation Commons&BArch, the image is protected by copyright and not included because the BArch not owns the requried copyrights to release it under a free license. You can not simply steal those images from the Bundesarchiv database and claim them licensed under cc-by and included in "|Permission=Commons:Bundesarchiv". I dont expect a long standing user dooing such bad things here. --Martin H. (talk) 17:29, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- It is. I ordered this image along with 11 others from the Bundesarchiv to be digitalized for Commons use. I will pay for the scanning of the photo originals myself and I am uploading them with the usual Bundesarchiv license. In particular, the Bundesarchiv personnel requested these conditions to be fulfilled in the uploaded photos (please correct any possible mistake I may make):
- Nach einer entsprechenden Registrierung Ihrerseits, können können die Bilder im Webshop unter dem Verwendungszweck "private-Internet use - 0,00 " kostenlos herunterladen ( s. beiliegendes Infoschreiben), müssen dann aber UNBEDINGT dafür Sorge tragen, dass diese Bilder bei Wikimedia Commons mit allen notwendigen Zusatzinformationen versehen werden.
- Dazu gehoren:
- - Der obligatorische Hinweis, dass das Bundesarchive eine originalgetreue Überlieferung nur im Rahmen seines Digitalen Bildarchivs garantiert.
- - ein Link zum Digitalen Bildarchiv
- - Verweis auf Creatice Commons 3.0
--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 17:31, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Rowanwindwhistler, if you have indeed a permission, you need to forward that to OTRS. As many copyright violations are uploaded to Commons every day, we require proof in such cases. Please give your user name and the names of the deleted files in that email. Please let me know if any further assistance is needed. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 17:44, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Its redicoulous. I spent much time to order and scan the information from a rare book and to explain WHO the author of File:Bundesarchiv Bild 146-1971-039-44, Kurt Eisner.jpg is and that it is protected by copyright untill 2056. The author is clearly identified. Now you upload the image with the claim, that the author is anonymous and that the Bundesarchiv gave you permission to reuse an image that they OBVIOUSLY not hold the rights on(the heritage of that photographer is hold by another museum) and that the image is included in Commons:Bundesarchiv... Obviously not, you knew the author, you knew the copyright status, so your license claim etc must be a fake. --Martin H. (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Martin, I am not claiming anything, as far as I know the Bundesarchiv is (please go and see for yourself in their site). Please tell them to correct it if you are sure it is wrong. They think they can allow the usage of the image with a Commons license. If you disagree, tell them. However, I was to upload 12 images, not just one, all of them allowed by Bundesarchiv. Nothing is "fake" (though it may be wrong, everybody makes mistakes...). Again, calm down. Whatever I may have done wrong, I have done in best faith and this is not the end of the world. If an image is indeed unusable, I will have thrown my money down the drain and the image will be deleted, that's all. But try to try to keep polite as you have not right to accuse anyone of anything...--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 18:10, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Forward your communication to OTRS please. Also the initially mentioned image is relatively obvious a Heinrich Hoffmann photo. I can imagine, that permission for private reuse is granted, I cant imagine that they are so carelessly with legal restrictions. --Martin H. (talk) 18:28, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hello, I already did, following AFBorchert's suggestion. I hope all necessary information is in the mail I sent but, if anything is missing, do not hesitate to ask me and I will do my best to find whatever may be missing. About the most contested image, they raised no objections (as with the others) but they may not have been aware of its true status. I assumed they were allowed to borrow the image to wikimedia in the usual restricted quality (actually, I did not ask for this one in particular, but for a portrait of Kurt Eisner, it has just been a coincidence they sent the same one already in Commons and to be deleted). Anyhow, I will wait for confirmation that the images are indeed usable in Commons before I upload any more. If they are not, I think it would be a good idea someone told Bundesarchiv, to avoid any future misunderstandings, I mean. Thank you for your advice.--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 18:36, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Martin, I've just checked the material Rowanwindwhistler has sent to OTRS. On the first view it looks as if Rowanwindwhistler acted in good faith but I am now in the process of checking this out with the Bundesarchiv. Ticket number is Template:OTRS ticket. Martin, is there somewhere a summary of the issues you saw with the uploads, i.e. the identification of the photographer etc? I noted also that the email referenced more photographs (12 in total). Do you have that extended list or did you just note the files which had been uploaded? Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 18:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Rowanwindwhistler and Martin, at OTRS we received meanwhile a confirmation of the Bundesarchiv that confirms Rowanwindwhistler's statements. These pictures will, however, probably be uploaded through a process that follows the previous uploads of the Bundesarchiv. (There is still an ongoing discussion regarding this point.) Martin, if there are any objections in regard to this set, please voice them now and I'll forward that. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, glad to hear things are being sorted out. Just a few questions if you don't mind my asking: 1) How could I know when the pictures will be transferred (I wanted the images for some wikipedia articles I am helping with)? 2) In case the price of the service ends up being reasonable and I decide to order some more pictures from Bundesarchiv for Commons, what would be the right procedure for me to follow to avoid further misunderstandings? 3) Is there any place in Commons where requests for Bundesarchiv can be made, i.e. if I would like an image of character X or event Y scanned, is there any place in Commons where I can register my request so that it can be relayed to Bundesarchiv? Thanks in advance for your kind support.--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 12:17, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Rowanwindwhistler, there is a process in preparation (but not yet operational) that allows the Bundesarchiv to upload further photographs. If this process is ready, the Bundesarchiv itself will upload the photographs. In the meantime, this will be done by Raymond who has already worked with the Bundesarchiv in the past. As long as the new process has not been enabled, I would suggest to contact Raymond to get this done properly, i.e. do not upload the Bundesarchiv images yourself but let this be done. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 14:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, I see, no problem at all. I just sent him a mail to see if I can be of any assistance in the process. I would be interested in knowing the procedure to order and upload pictures from Bundesarchiv, just in case I decide to order some more pictures for Commons. I suppose it will be posted somewhere when ready... Kind regards.--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 20:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Rowanwindwhistler, there is a process in preparation (but not yet operational) that allows the Bundesarchiv to upload further photographs. If this process is ready, the Bundesarchiv itself will upload the photographs. In the meantime, this will be done by Raymond who has already worked with the Bundesarchiv in the past. As long as the new process has not been enabled, I would suggest to contact Raymond to get this done properly, i.e. do not upload the Bundesarchiv images yourself but let this be done. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 14:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, glad to hear things are being sorted out. Just a few questions if you don't mind my asking: 1) How could I know when the pictures will be transferred (I wanted the images for some wikipedia articles I am helping with)? 2) In case the price of the service ends up being reasonable and I decide to order some more pictures from Bundesarchiv for Commons, what would be the right procedure for me to follow to avoid further misunderstandings? 3) Is there any place in Commons where requests for Bundesarchiv can be made, i.e. if I would like an image of character X or event Y scanned, is there any place in Commons where I can register my request so that it can be relayed to Bundesarchiv? Thanks in advance for your kind support.--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 12:17, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Rowanwindwhistler and Martin, at OTRS we received meanwhile a confirmation of the Bundesarchiv that confirms Rowanwindwhistler's statements. These pictures will, however, probably be uploaded through a process that follows the previous uploads of the Bundesarchiv. (There is still an ongoing discussion regarding this point.) Martin, if there are any objections in regard to this set, please voice them now and I'll forward that. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Martin, I've just checked the material Rowanwindwhistler has sent to OTRS. On the first view it looks as if Rowanwindwhistler acted in good faith but I am now in the process of checking this out with the Bundesarchiv. Ticket number is Template:OTRS ticket. Martin, is there somewhere a summary of the issues you saw with the uploads, i.e. the identification of the photographer etc? I noted also that the email referenced more photographs (12 in total). Do you have that extended list or did you just note the files which had been uploaded? Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 18:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hello, I already did, following AFBorchert's suggestion. I hope all necessary information is in the mail I sent but, if anything is missing, do not hesitate to ask me and I will do my best to find whatever may be missing. About the most contested image, they raised no objections (as with the others) but they may not have been aware of its true status. I assumed they were allowed to borrow the image to wikimedia in the usual restricted quality (actually, I did not ask for this one in particular, but for a portrait of Kurt Eisner, it has just been a coincidence they sent the same one already in Commons and to be deleted). Anyhow, I will wait for confirmation that the images are indeed usable in Commons before I upload any more. If they are not, I think it would be a good idea someone told Bundesarchiv, to avoid any future misunderstandings, I mean. Thank you for your advice.--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 18:36, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Forward your communication to OTRS please. Also the initially mentioned image is relatively obvious a Heinrich Hoffmann photo. I can imagine, that permission for private reuse is granted, I cant imagine that they are so carelessly with legal restrictions. --Martin H. (talk) 18:28, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Martin, I am not claiming anything, as far as I know the Bundesarchiv is (please go and see for yourself in their site). Please tell them to correct it if you are sure it is wrong. They think they can allow the usage of the image with a Commons license. If you disagree, tell them. However, I was to upload 12 images, not just one, all of them allowed by Bundesarchiv. Nothing is "fake" (though it may be wrong, everybody makes mistakes...). Again, calm down. Whatever I may have done wrong, I have done in best faith and this is not the end of the world. If an image is indeed unusable, I will have thrown my money down the drain and the image will be deleted, that's all. But try to try to keep polite as you have not right to accuse anyone of anything...--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 18:10, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- Its redicoulous. I spent much time to order and scan the information from a rare book and to explain WHO the author of File:Bundesarchiv Bild 146-1971-039-44, Kurt Eisner.jpg is and that it is protected by copyright untill 2056. The author is clearly identified. Now you upload the image with the claim, that the author is anonymous and that the Bundesarchiv gave you permission to reuse an image that they OBVIOUSLY not hold the rights on(the heritage of that photographer is hold by another museum) and that the image is included in Commons:Bundesarchiv... Obviously not, you knew the author, you knew the copyright status, so your license claim etc must be a fake. --Martin H. (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi, from which book page did you take File:Chicos-lenin-terror-rojo-II--outlawsdiary02tormuoft.png? I've scanned through all the pages and didn't find it. --Túrelio (talk) 08:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hi, you are quite right, I pasted the wrong link. There are several volumes for this book in archive.net and I wrote the wrong one. You can see the picture in page 253 of volume 2, here http://www.archive.org/details/outlawsdiary02tormuoft . I already corrected the source item in the file.--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 08:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thx. --Túrelio (talk) 08:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)