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Culs de bouteille[edit]

Hé, je n'ai pas encore acheté le 70-200 ! Mais j'ai la version stabilisée du 105 (c'est vrai que je ne l'avais pas compté dans mon échange avec Bibi). Je m'en sers pour les gros plans dans les meetings politiques, il a un très joli bokeh. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 07:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Un objectif macro ne sert pour ainsi dire à rien en travail de près dans un musée, à cause du grandissement. Pour la tablette, là, c'est criant : à cette distance, il est en position macro et tu aurais eu un gros plan sur une lettre, essentiellement. Il vaut mieux réduire la focale et plaquer l'objectif contre la vitrine, ce qui te permet de descendre sous le 1/15e.
Sinon, pourquoi est-ce que tu encapsules le modèle Louvre dans un modèle Information ? Les infos sont assez redondantes... Jastrow (Λέγετε) 08:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Voigtländer (traduc.)[edit]

Quelqu'un demande la traduction de de:Johann Christoph Voigtländer. C'est très court et de faible intérêt. Mais le seul point positif qu'on y voit est un portrait de Voigtländer, et c'est amusant. Maintenant ce portrait est sur (de) Bild:Johann.Christoph.Voigtländer.jpg, et le copyright tag est tout ce qu'il y a de plus ambigu. Et il dit que STOP ! la compatibilité entre de.wp et commons n'est pas garantie : demandez-leur leur avis avant d'uploader... Comment peut-on faire une traduction dans ces conditions ?
Trassiorf 16:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

La traduction passe sans problème, il faut simplement citer la source et lister les auteurs sur la page de discussion de l'article français.
Pour l'image, le problème est que comme WP-de ne prend pas le "fair use", les boulets de là-bas inventent des licences libres bidon ou des domaines publics fantaisistes pour uploader des idioties. En l'occurence, ça m'a l'air bon, si effectivement l'image date du XVIIIe siècle. Dommage pour la résolution de timbre-poste. Rama 20:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Komitas-Armenie-BordDeSeine-p1000413.jpg[edit]

Salut Rama. Je viens de supprimer l'une de tes images : elle représente une œuvre de David Yérévantsi, qui est encore en vie… Jastrow (Λέγετε) 13:05, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ouh là, en effet. Ça date de ma jeunesse folle et insouciante, ça... Rama 09:05, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Je me suis auto-chopée récemment en flagrant délit d'œuvre dérivée pour une statue dans un musée : j'avais mal calculé les 70 ans (faut le faire, mais ça explique que j'aie passé un bac littéraire). Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Minerals[edit]

Hi :) could you give your input here? (I'm painfully going through oooold deletion requests...) If you want them deleted, I can do that (I hope they're not in use though), but personally I think it would be a shame because some are identifiable, even if blurry... Patrícia msg 11:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done and thank you for pocking me. Cheers ! Rama 13:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'll close that one later today, if noone does it before. And now for something completely different... can you check this and see if I didn't screw up anywhere? Thanks again ;) Patrícia msg 15:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it wasn't self-made, I found it somewhere on a US government website. I was young and foolish at the time (I'm less young now), so I neglected to note the source. Rama 16:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

requested illustration[edit]

Hi Rama, I have noticed your excellent illustrations elsewhere and was wondering if you could help resolve an issue we're (well, mostly I'm) having at the en.wiki article about waterboarding. Currently we have one non-free image in the text that shows a painting of waterboarding as practiced by the khmer rouge, and there also is a linked photo in the Vietnam War section of American soldiers using waterboarding. I would prefer that we have a free image of waterboarding at the top of the article, because we should have a free illustration of waterboarding, and then we can move the non-free painting down to illustrate waterboarding in the cambodia section. Is this something that you would be up for? Calliopejen 21:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,
on the principle, I'd be glad to. However, given the sensitivity of the subject, it will be important that the image be quite exact, and at present I do not believe myself knowledgeable enough in this procedure to illustrate it. I will try to see if I can find documentation detailed enough so that I can have a good understanding of it and I'll keep you informed.
Cheers ! Rama 14:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Valable[edit]

Bonjour,

Je suis un peu (voire vraiment) handicapé sur Commons (mon truc, c'est plutôt d'écrire des articles). Peux-tu me confirmer que cette photo peut être chargée à partir de Flickr : [1]. Merci. antonov14 18:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pas de problème, je suis là pour aider.
Oui, c'est la CC-BY, cette licence est valable pour Commons. Si tu veux te rafraîchir la mémoire, tu peuxjeter un oeil à Upload work from Flickr ou à Commons:Flickr images/Guide, mais n'hésite pas à me demander si le besoin s'en fait sentir.
Bonne continuation ! Rama 19:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merci, je préférai m'en assurer. @+. antonov14 22:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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merci d'avoir su garder un esprit critique[edit]

Deux mots pour vous remercier de votre message sur le bistrot de Commons concernant le sujet de la mention de l'auteur sous les photos.. Je ne suis pas tout à fait d'accord avec vous au sujet du système de licence, lois etc.. j'accepte votre avis bien sur car au moins vous êtes respectueux et gardez le recul nécessaire. J'apprécie votre esprit critique et que remettiez les choses à leur place.Picturit 09:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image with unknown source, license or permission[edit]

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More input needed[edit]

Hi Rama,
you've put the published-template on Image talk:Apple-II.jpg, but you didn't add the required information, where, by whom and when this image was used. The same applies to Image talk:SIG220-Morges.jpg. Could you please add that. Thanks. -- Túrelio 13:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Rama/video commands[edit]

Thankyou for the info.Geni 00:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Question[edit]

Bonjour Rama,

Existe-t-il une page de stats recensant les contributeurs par nombre de photos uploadées par exemple ?

Cordialement, DocteurCosmos 12:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Message de bienvenue[edit]

Bonjour, merci pour votre message sur ma page d'utilisateur [Mulard] !

Sylvain Mulard 12:24, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Colophon[edit]

Salut Rama. Aucun souvenir de ça. D'après la base Atlas, il n'y en a qu'un en salle 3, dans la vitrine spéciale tablettes. Je l'ai très peu pratiquée pour l'instant, mais comme j'ai désormais du matos bien adapté (raaah, le 18-50 Sigma avec MAP minimale à 20 cm...), je peux passer faire un tour prochainement s'il y a besoin. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah oui, le AO 7661, bien vu !
Le 18-50 est très chouette, j'en avais un sur mon EOS10D dans le temps. Au rayon photo de musées, ce qui me fait rêver dans la gamme Nikon, ce sont les objectifs macro stabilisés. Mais le Sigma est un excellent objectif tout usage, très bon en portrait aussi; tu vas bien t'amuser avec ça.
Si par hasard tu passes dans cette salle du Louvre et que tu as quelques déclanchements à perdre sur AO 7661, tu vas faire un heureux, mais sinon ça n'est pas grave. C'est vraiment du luxe.
Merci encore et bonne continuation ! Rama 16:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Mitsubishi Zero-Yasukuni.jpg[edit]

Hello. I find Image:Mitsubishi Zero-Yasukuni.jpg and wonder why you erased the image's background. It looks unconventional and somewhat strange, because I didn't see any aircraft picture like that on commons. I also think the information of location where pictures taken is important, so I would like to revert the image, sorry for your effort. How do you think this? --Tataroko-common 18:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,
it is a common practice to detour objects when the background is no significant (see Image:Background extraction.jpg for the canonical example).
In this case I though that the background was not significant: only a small detail of Yasukuni is shown, it is a modern setting, and nothing special seems to happen. So I detoured the plane and put it in a 3x2 ratio image.
Since you object, I have reverted Image:Mitsubishi Zero-Yasukuni.jpg and uploaded the detoured version under an alternative name.
Cheers! Rama 08:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your quick response! It is the nice idea to upload the no-background version as another file. I think it is valuable.--Tataroko-common 11:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OTRS ticket question[edit]

In this discussion you mentioned that you received the confirmation email in regard to the photos by Dwight McCann. Two of the images were subsequently tagged with OTRS tickets [2] [3]. The two tickets appear to be different, I was wondering which was one is correct or which one is better to tag the images with? BlueAzure 19:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both URLs point to the same ticket. More specifically, [4] leads directly to the text of the ticked, and the other one to a one-item list containing this ticket.
I would have a slight preference for the URL [5], but both are valid. Cheers! Rama 21:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thank you. BlueAzure 22:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Star[edit]

The Photographer's Barnstar
You deserve it really :) abf /talk to me/ 12:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

deprecated function in your monobook.js[edit]

Dear user, I noticed that you use the includePage function in your monobook.js page.

This function is now obsolete, as the importScript function was introduced with rev:35064 to the MediaWiki Javascript core library wikibits.js. It also keeps track of already imported files.

To allow us to remove includePage from Mediawiki:Common.js I'd kindly ask you to replace its use with importScript (same syntax!). Thanks! --Dschwen 17:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


All your images with regognisable people[edit]

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Dinosaur comics[edit]

Greetings. I've long been an anonymous fan of your explicit line drawings. Apropos of this, I thought you should see this webcomic. It's about you. :-)

All the best

Darn, I did not mean to be phallocentric. But I had a good ROTFLcopter, thank you! Rama 20:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Image Tagging Image:Rama thailand.jpg[edit]

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My Request for Adminship[edit]

Dear Rama,

Thank you for voting in my request for adminship, which passed with 25 support, 4 oppose, and 3 neutral. I'm honoured that the community have granted me the administrative tools. If there is anything, then do not hesitate to ask me.

Thank you for the nomination Rocket, it wouldn't have been possible otherwise. Kanonkas(talk)

Thank you for your support Rama, be sure to leave me a note if you need anything. --Kanonkas(talk) 18:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Argh[edit]

Tu veux dire que tu l'as rencontré ? Pour de vrai ? Ce type est mon héros ! guillom 14:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

C'est bien la peine ma page utilisateur affiche une galerie qui comprend un Prix Turing, un prix Nobel d'économie, l'inventeur des fractales et le président de l'Union Internatiale de mathématiques... ^^ Rama 14:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA -- Thank You![edit]

Thank you for your support & comments in my RFA!!

I figured a bunch of Lolcats were more fun that me trying to write a logical "thank you". Silly, Aren't they?

ShakataGaNai Talk

On Categories, Sub-Cat etc[edit]

Hi Rama, as your'e obviously familiar with such, please have a look at Category:Russkaja. An IP created a sub-cat and moved most of the pics there (all of them are from same concert). Would you advise to leave the sub-cat (as by now) and move the other 5 files there, too? TX, WeHaWoe 09:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously, a category containing only a sub.category makes little sense. In the obsolute, it is not necessarly a bad idea to create a sub-category for each concert; maybe it is just a bit early now. I would personally have left everything in the same category and created a gallery for finer distinctions (like which concert the images where taken at), but this is a matter of personal understanding.
In the particular case, I would advise leaving the best images in the parent category so that they are readily available, and putting everything in the subcategory of the concert.
Cheers! Rama 13:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. In case I get a couple of pics from another concert of that group, at another place, soon, should I create another sub-category? --WeHaWoe 14:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, one more thing: would you please proofread Template:Pink_CC/fr ? My French is somewhat "less than perfect" ;) TX, WeHaWoe 14:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Things are somewhat more complicate: Two (or one?) definitely football fan(s) created categories (partly overlapping) and tagged a quantity of images. So, we have now
Again: How about creating catogories on ONE single pic, & on one single event: do you think that's useful? (talking about Category:Switzerland - Czech Republic, 7 Jun 2008 and more similar to come). I'm not aware at all about "how much noise" creates such to servers, therefore would rather be reluctant. I meanwhile accept
It is not a problem. These categories could be populated later on. Rama 19:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ACK. I always am afraid that such might create more "noise" than ever being useful to WP.
Did you, BTW, have a look at my "baby" Pink_CC /fr template? Are you a native French speaker? How would I apply for ANY native speaker on commons? If I check Babel, there would come out hundreds of wikipedians who were not active for a while, TX, WeHaWoe 19:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Refilage de ballon[edit]

Salut, Sur WP:FR, l'utilisateur Nod gwen s'est plaint d'un problème (réel ou imaginaire, je ne sais trop, il n'est pas bien précis) à propos de ses images supprimées sur Commons. Comme apparemment c'est toi qui as supprimé une de ses images, je t'en informe, au cas où tu voudrais jeter un oeil et répondre à ses interrogations : sa question est là (en bas de page). -- Asclepias 10:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merci pour l'information. Bonne continuation ! Rama 14:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Entretemps, j'ai trouvé ceci : User talk:New Dog. Puisque certains indices peuvent laisser croire qu'il pourrait s'agir de la même personne, cette page de discussion contient déjà les explications. -- Asclepias 18:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

5 different questions[edit]

  • Was I right to put Image:PossibleBug Show.gif under PD-ineligible as well? In case, you dislike to anwer this, where to ask?
  • I recently edited commons gallery Margret Hofheinz-Döring where all description is in German. In case, the gallery would be linked from, say, enWP, this would not make much sense. I therefore think about moving it to either "Margret Hofheinz-Döring (German version)" or Margret "Hofheinz-Döring/de" or similar. What would you advise?
  • I yesterday created "Creator:Margret Hofheinz-Döring" (which, up to now, is used in Image:Schulweg, Margret Hofheinz-Döring (WV-Nr. 94).jpg only. Would you please check whether the template is "technically" correct?
  • What's the best way to find a proofreader (I mean: someone who improves on my less-than-perfect English or French). Looking up Babel-4 or native speakers, I get too many wikipedians which were not active for a long time. I guess there is a better way (without havin to bore single persons again+again because they helped once ;) At this time, it is about en:Karin Schäfer.
  • Where do I find statistics on the growth of wikipedia? Say for instance, how many, average, would join on one day?

TX, Wolfgang --WeHaWoe 03:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,
  • Yes, PD-ineligible is correct (the image is a purely technical item rather than a work of art)
  • Galleries should in general be in English. The text at the top can be in several languages (see Leonardo da Vinci for an example). The descriptions of the images themselves should be in English and translations be featured on the pages of the images themselves; but in this particular case, it appears that they are often titles of the paintings, which is then acceptable. So here, the thing to do is just to add an English translation of the text at the top, and change the section names to English.
  • Creator:Margret Hofheinz-Döring is perfect, congratulations.
  • I would advise you to ask support on en:Wikipedia:Translation, and the different counter-parts in other languages.
  • A variety of statistics can be found from en:Wikipedia:Statistics, en:Category:Wikipedia_statistics and en:Special:Statistics. Good luck!
Cheers! Rama 07:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
TX for answering that soon. I'm still uncertain on #2, galleries: If someone would translate the picture titles within the "gallery" tags, it would imo blow up the caption/legend/underline [I use LEO ;] in an imo inappropriate way, and for sure, if there would be more than one additional language.
Do I unterstand right that such still would be better than creating separate gallery articles for each language? TX (whilst looking forward to your answer) --WeHaWoe 09:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you understand correctly. We do not have separate galleries for different languages. Rama 11:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
TX, &eod. --WeHaWoe 15:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much![edit]


Hello there!

Thank you for supporting my request for adminship, which closed unsuccessfully. I appreciate people like you taking the time out to support my efforts to adding content to Wikimedia Commons, offering to translate picture captions on IRC at a moment's notice, deleting images, or cooperating with me on OTRS by getting free licensed permissions for hard to find pictures. Again, thank you for your support. Thanks for believing in me. Have a great day!

Best wishes,

miranda

Also, thanks for nominating me. :-) miranda 21:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merci ![edit]

Bonjour Rama ! Je voulais de remercier pour ta réactivité à propos de ceci qui nous a enfin permis de résoudre sur wp:fr une situation problématique particulièrement pénible ! Amicalement ! --Alter Mandarine (talk) 22:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merci également..[edit]

..pour le déplacement de l'image Chimay.. Je ferais plus attention lors des prochains Uploads. --DaiFh discuT 22:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Made for you by Esby[edit]

Finalement, j'ai lu deux tutoriaux...
Image:Pieter Bruegel I-Fall of rebel Angels (merge).jpg Il manque les bords, mais c'est mieux que rien.
Pour la prochaine fois, découpe en mosaïque de 3x3 ou 2x2 en débordant un peu sur les bords du cadre.

Yo[edit]

Salut tu pourrais venir donner ton avis ? ici merci Ludo (talk) 10:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Image Tagging Image:Radar-p011989.jpg[edit]

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Image Tagging Image:Radar-p011990.jpg[edit]

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Commons[edit]

Salut,

Je viens faire suite à notre discussion d'hier à propos de la fameuse carte des dictatures et de son fort coté travail inédit.

Au cours de cette conversation un argument qui nous a été donné est que Commons is not Wikipédia. Je suis tout à fait d'accord. Pour le commun des mortel Commons n'existe pas, les gens (hors projets Wikimedia) ne savent pas qu'il existe autre chose que Wikipédia. De plus beaucoup de contributeurs (sur fr et propablement ailleurs aussi) ne prennent Commons que pour un tiroir pour bien ranger les documents nécessaires à illustrer leurs articles sur Wikipédia. De fait, ce genre de situation doit parfois être gonflante quand on s'investit beaucoup sur Commons.

Cependant, partir d'un argument juste Commons is not Wikipédia afin d'accepter n'importe quoi comme matériel je ne suis pas d'accord. Le fait qu'une photo soit du grand n'importe quoi ce voit assez vite. Je peux prendre en photo un pote en train de se vomir dessus au cours d'une boeuverie, tout le monde va voir que l'intérêt de la photo est nul. Par contre, une carte comme celle d'hier soir, c'est beaucoup plus dangeureux. En effet, il faut un minimum d'esprit critique et de culture généralle pour se rendre compte que la carte est une vaste blague. La personne qui a fait cette carte n'a absolument aucun moyen de savoir qui s'en sert et comment. Et là on peut diffuser du savoir faux, pariticiper à la diffusion de ce non-savoir. Est-ce le but des projets Wikimédia ? Je ne le pense pas.

Commons fait bien d'autre chose que du stockage de jpg pour en, de, fr and Co. J'apprécie beaucoup les Atlas qui ont été fait pour chaque pays, je m'em sert dans le domaine de la géographie sur fr. Mais justement travaillant sur la géographie, voir que ce genre de truc traine sur commons sans une explication du genre Attention cette carte n'en est pas une, il ne s'agit pas d'un document encyclopédique, je suis en rogne.

Me comprends-tu ? Ludo (talk) 06:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Salut,
Oui, cette histoire de carte est choquante. Mon premier mouvement, comme tu l'as vu, serait d'effacer immédiatement. Mais il y a des images encore plus choquantes qui restent sur Commons par la vertu d'être libres (Caricatures of Ariel Sharon...) ; ce sont des saloperies qui ne sont pas hors sujet (out of scope) mais dont on espère qu'elles ne seront jamais utilisées.
Et c'est d'autant plus choquant que ton exemple de vomi, lui, se ferait virer sommairement ("Commons n'est pas un hébergeur de photos personelles sans intérêt encyclopédique").
Je vais essayer de voir s'il est possible de mettre le dernier point en perspective pour justifier qu'on efface les images qui contreviennent de façon flagrante à en:Wikipedia:No original research et à en:Wikipedia:Complete bollocks, parce que là, comme tu dis, il y a des limites aux bornes. Rama (talk) 07:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
La PU de Rama n'est pas un blog...
Ceci dit, je plussoie Ludo. A mon sens, il ne faut pas perdre de vue que Commons est au service de l'ensemble des projets de la fondation et, s'il peut s'y trouver des points de vue sujets à critique, il faudrait que cela soit signalé expressément et de façon visible.
Quant aux cartes vraiment trollesques, je pense qu'elles devraient pouvoir disparaître par ce seul motif.
Cordialement, --Pymouss Tchatcher - 13:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Attention, quand je dis que je n'efface pas l'image à vue, je veux dire qu'à mon avis elle ne contrevient pas de façon flagrante à un principe de base de Commons. Je ne veux pas dire que je pense qu'à terme il faut la garder (d'ailleurs je pense qu'il faut la virer).
Je pense simplement que cette carte devrait être effacée après concertation, avec l'espoir qu'on en prenne de la graine et qu'on mette une politique au point pour ce genre de cas. C'est pourquoi je suis allé voter "supprimer" plutôt que de clore sommairement la discussion. Rama (talk) 13:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paris in 1981[edit]

Hello, Rama! Thank you for your work on identifying the photos from Paris which I uploaded today. I am in the middle of this job, about 80 more pictures pending for tomorrow. I'd be grateful if you can have a look at them, as well. Feel free to remove the template whenever you decide that there is nothing special about the object, I suppose there are such images, for instance Image:Paris-in-1981-006.jpg. Anyway, I hope that they are enough valuable to stay on Commons. Best regards, →Spiritia 19:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,
I'll do that gladly when I have a bit a spare time. I didn't want to bother you but since you insist, congratulations on finding these images, they are most valuable as testimonies of everyday life in the recent past.
Cheers! Rama (talk) 19:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Petite question...[edit]

Coucou Rama,

je viens te demander un petit truc, à toi Ô Dieu du dessin ;-)

Il y a un wikipédien qui voudrait illustrer un article de psycho avec des photos de psychologues célèbres. Ceux-ci soit refusent de donner des photos libres, soit ne lui répondent pas. Il se pose la question de savoir s'il peut dessiner des portraits de ces psy et les mettre sur Commons. Sachant donc que ce sont des personnes vivantes... As-tu une idée des pratiques dans ce genre de cas ? Ça serait très sympa de m'éclairer. Merci d'avance, --Serein (talk) 20:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Salut,
Bon heureusement que tu m'interpelles par mon handle, parce qu'avec « Ô Dieu du dessin », je ne me serais pas reconnu. J'ai dû être prédestiné à recevoir la Grâce, sur ce coup.
Pour répondre à la question: oui, il peut. Hier encore, j'ai griffonné un portrait de ce genre (Image:JPP-portrait.jpg). Et avant ça je m'étais essayé à faire des portraits de Sarkozy, Nihous, Laguiller, Le Pen et Schivardi, du temps où on n'avait pas d'images d'eux (c'était d'ailleurs un vrai désastre). La règle du jeu est:
  • ne pas décalquer ou recopier une photographie (exemple: mon dessin de De Gaulle causant dans le poste à la BBC s'est fait bouler parce que trop proche de la photo)
  • évidemment, ne pas porter atteinte à l'honneur bla bla bla.
Bonne chance à l'artiste ! Rama (talk) 21:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category+Gallery[edit]

Hi, would you please have a look at my recent changes in Anton Karas and the category, just to be ascertained whether one can handle things that way. Main questions

  1. I moved all upper-categories into newly created Category:Anton Karas
  2. I added one weblink to the gallery. Will such be OK or less than welcome? --WeHaWoe (talk) 16:17, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Seems OK to me. Weblinks are always welcome, it also works in categories.
However, I have concerns as to the validity of the licence of the images. Rama (talk) 23:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to German and Austrian law, anything that is permanently exposed to public (a statue, monument or similar) cannot be copyrighted ["Panoramafreiheit" -- which is quite different to US law, I learned; I'm not a lawyer, though].
I, BTW, immediately after uploading [one month+ ago] contacted the owner of rights (Karas' nephew+heir), who, up to now, did not reply nor protest AFAIK. That was my major reason to put his website on the gallery: to create a kind of win-win situation in any case. --WeHaWoe (talk) 19:19, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Betancourt.jpg[edit]

Hi! Could you tell me why you deleted Image:Betancourt.jpg from commons? It was licenced under cc-by-2.0 on Flikr, as you can see here. {Sirabder87}Static age 10:26, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Flickr author has probably no right to licence his image under this licence (unless he is the author of the stencil and of the photograph from which it was derived, which is unlikely). This makes the licence invalid. Rama (talk) 10:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I had this doubt too, but the original image has been made by FARC, so that I don't think it could be consdered under copyright at all. {Sirabder87}Static age 11:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why not? Columbia is a party of the Berne Convention.
And even in this case, the maker of the stencil holds a copyright on his adaptaion of the photograph. Rama (talk) 11:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that stencil could be considered as an original work and FARC would hold any copyright but well, I accept your decision. {Sirabder87}Static age 11:35, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Converting a photograph to a stencil is not necessarily a trivial endeavour. It is thus possible that it entails copyright.
Per Colombian law, the author of the photograph holds a copyright on it. I have not seen documentation from the FARC stating that their documents are in the public domain. So we must assume that the document is indeed copyrighted. Rama (talk) 12:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Atelier technique[edit]

Salut, as tu connaissance de fr:Wikipedia:Atelier photographique ? Yug 17:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Oui, pourquoi ? Rama (talk) 17:57, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thanks so much for your help with this. Now I'm off to deal with all the other issues he's causing. \o/ LaraLove (talk) 13:18, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Source[edit]

The source is properly given. If you don't like it or if you don't agree with it, request a regular deletion. Thank you for understanding. Dantadd✉ 23:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No there is not. There is no mention of the author, and no web page where this information can be found is linked. The purpose of sources is not to known whether the file exists somewhere on Internet, but to know whether it is free. Please refrain from removing source requirement tags again unless you can answer the question. Thank you. Rama (talk) 07:51, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The file is hosted on a US government website, therefore the source is properly given, and it's no use to repeat endlessly the contrary. If you have restrictions about the source or the authorship, use the regular deletion request. It's your right and it won't hurt you. If you have the reason by your side (and I think you have it), the pictures will be deleted. The unnacceptable is trying to delete pictures with painless tags of no source when the source is given. To dispute the source, the regular deletion procedure should be used. Dantadd✉ 19:02, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No it is not. The author is not given. US government website do host media which are not public domain, because they are not made by the US administration.
If you cared to read the "No source" template, you would see "The author and source of the file must be given". It is in bold. Author and source.
Now please stop reverting this template as you perfectly know you must not. Rama (talk) 19:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Attack Cake[edit]

The attack cake is NOT a lie. Enjoy. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 05:57, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Thanks for uploading Image:Evstafiev-Radovan_Karadzic_3MAR94.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikimedia Commons (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page. If the content is a derivative of a copyrighted work, you need to supply the names and a licence of the original authors as well.

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I really fail to see the problem. This image is properly licenced and credited. Rama (talk) 09:24, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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