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muir tartan

Here, Image:Muir or More tartan.png. It is almost the exact same tartan as the California State tartan which is in honour of a Muir - check this [1].--Celtus 09:57, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

link to the California tartan someone else made Image:California Tartan.PNG.--Celtus 10:00, 22 December 2007 (UTC)


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Good work on the London photograph montage, but there is a question of licenses. Can you give a source for "Bottom right: Tower of London". Where did you get it, and what license is it? Also I don't think you are allowed to release under the GFDL because some of your source images are CC only. I don't think you can use version 3.0 of Creative Commons because your source images are version 2.5. Thanks again. edward 20:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

New Lancashire map incorrectly calibrated

The new version of Image:Lancashire outline map with UK.png you have uploaded is incompatible with the previous version -- the calibration is all wrong. Locations are appearing two miles or so further south than they ought to on the location maps.--Dr Greg (talk) 12:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


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Chaser (talk) 17:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Wales

Hello, administrator. May I know where did you find this type of outline map which shown urban and rural areas (e.g. Image:Edinburgh outline map.png) ? I want to make a location map for Wales, but cannot find a good outline map yet.{S19991002 (talk) 05:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I'm afraid that currently this image does not meet the criteria for inclusion on commons, as it is technically a copyvio. You cannot distribute it as PD because of the flickr image, and the Brown/Churchill images are both unsourced. I have deleted the image, but the following is a copy of the page info, should you wish to reupload it after sorting these issues.

{{Information |Description=A montage of notable Britons (British people). All were born in the United Kingdom (and Great Britain), post 1707. All are of ''indigenous'' British stock (mixture of English, Scottish and Welsh). Kelly Holmes's father was Jamican. Including: *Top row, left to right: **'''Isambard Kingdom Brunel''' - British engineer (born in England). **'''Gordon Brown''' - British Prime Minister (born in Scotland). **'''Keira Knightly''' - British Actress (born in England - of mixed English and Scottish ancestry) **'''Winston Churchill''' - British Prime Minister (born in England). *Bottom row, left to right: **'''David Lloyd George''' - British Prime Minister (born in England - of Welsh ancestry) **'''Kelly Holmes''' - British Olympic gold medalist who represents Great Britain (born in England - of mixed English and Jamaican heritage) **'''Adam Smith''' - British Economist, first Scot on Bank of England notes, ardent Unionist (born in Scotland). **'''Horatio Nelson''' - British military hero - (born in England). |Source=Montage is self-made from images already existing on WikiCommons. See below. |Date=December 2007 |Author= [[User:Jhamez84|Jhamez84]] |Permission=See below. |other_versions= }} ==Licensing== This montage uses images with a mixture of licensing already on WikiCommons: ===Public domain images=== [[:Image:IKBrunelChains.jpg]] = Isambard Kingdom Brunel. [[:Image:David Lloyd George.jpg]] = David Lloyd George. [[:Image:Gordon Brown 2005 IMF close.jpg]] = Gordon Brown. [[:Image:Winston Churchill.jpg]] = Winston Churchill. [[:Image:AdamSmith.jpg]] = Adam Smith. [[:Image:HoratioNelson1.jpg]] = Horatio Nelson. {{PD-old}} ===Creative commons=== [[:Image:Keira Knightley (2005).jpg]] = Keira Knightley (original author is Tony Shek). {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} {{User:FlickreviewR/reviewed-error|Russell Garner|http://flickr.com/photos/28686289@N05/2677720863|06:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)|()}} Kelly Holmes taken from [http://www.flickr.com/photos/28686289@N05/2677720863/ Flickr], where the author is given as Russell Garner and the licence is: {{cc-by-sa-2.0}} {{User:FlickreviewR/reviewed-error|Russell Garner|http://flickr.com/photos/28686289@N05/2677720863|06:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)|()}} [[Category:People of the United Kingdom|*]]

Thanks, and good luck. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

You're right, my apologies. I get a bit trigger happy sometimes :/ -mattbuck (Talk) 20:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure there would. Again, sorry for my hasty deletion. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


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Kimse (talk) 02:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year, BritishWatcher... I mean Jza! Have a good one. - Thomas Gun (talk) 22:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Maps

Good job with the maps, do you have ones for North Yorkshire & East Riding? I'm trying to figure out which areas are in which bouroughs, etc to sort of villages categories better. - Thomas Gun (talk) 08:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

English people

Hi Jza, I don't know if this is technically "allowed" to suggest, but on Wikipedia an anon from Australia (presumably a disgrunted migrant) has taken it upon himself to remove from the English people article any mention of the Brythonic inhabitants & influence as well as from Modern Celts anything to do with England. As well as adding anywhere he can the word "Germans". Seems part of the standard vandalism to try and doctor a "division" of the UK by removing part of the England's native history (less economically successful constituency country, "Celtic nations", "I hate England" garb). I'd have a look at it myself, but I'm desperately trying to stay on track and resist sockpuppetry haha. Actually I'm rewriting some of the articles such as England and Great Britain in my notepad and saving it for when the ban is finally up. - Thomas Gun (talk) 14:34, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jza, yeah thats def one of the areas I'm interested in helping fix. In general across a lot of the British and UK articles there seems to be a lot regionalist POV within them. A lot of it amounts to cultural cringe in regards to the British Empire and nationalists from other constituency countries hiding behind the skirts of England within the articles presenation, with England as a "fall guy".
About the Celts and the Saxons, well both of them are largely cultural castes rather than general populance "races" as such. Apparently most of the British people are descended from Prehistoric populances and then there has been some migration and cultural formulation on top of that base. So the Brythonic history is certainly as much part of English's history as all the others. You're correct in what you said about influence on the east coast of Britain though; Lowlands Scots on the east were basically in the same cultural sphere as much of Northern England (both were part of Northumbria). I presume this is why the Scots language is so similar to English (both are from the Anglo-Frisian family).
Regionalists also seem to use Wikipedia for POV fringey synthing in regards to Cornwall too unfortunetly. Here are some of the things I've started working on in notepad (far from complete); you might need to cut and preview on Wikipedia to get a better idea (to show templates) - Great Britain - England - Thomas Gun (talk) 18:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jza, sorry for the late reply but I've been a bit bogged down recently. Google Books Search is probably a good place to find information, if you type in British people. I've been looking into the biology/genetics side of it (opposed to indentity, national myth, Dark Age stories, etc)... and strangely the majority of British and Irish people are 70% genetically descendents of prehistoric Iberian settlers (from what is now Spain and Portugal), with limited influence on top of that from later invading ruling castes. There is actually an article about it on Wikipedia[2] and many books such as this[3]. Perhaps in the British peoples article there needs to be a Biology section, which separates scientific, genetic fact from national myths (adopted identity). - Thomas Gun (talk) 17:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


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Hi Jza - I emailed ArbCom about asking to get my ban reversed on Wikipedia, but I think something is wrong with the email function because I haven't got a reply from them about it. Not sure whats going on with it, but if I make no socks on there until July 14, then Alison said she would unblock me. The wait seems kinda beauracratic at this point to be fair since I've no intention of going back to the "bad old ways". Yeah, I'd def be interested in working on the British people article when I get back and the Tamil ones looks good, I've still been working on various articles in my notepad (including Great Britain and England). I think the article should mention the ancient Britons too and how it all intertwines: since the modern British identity (starting with John Dee and then the Stuarts) is essentially a revival of that to some extent.- Thomas Gun (talk) 09:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

The last time I spoke to her she said to just wait it out, theres only two months of it left anyway I think
Some of those pictures look good, the Beau Brummell and refined British fashion subject seems like a good idea to have in such an article ("British understatement", etc). The Orange Order thing might be divisive though, since its only really relevent to the west of Scotland and NI, but not England, Wales or the Highlands.
By the way I spotted some vanity articles that you may want to look over[4] this guy seems to be self-promoting his obscure micro-nationalist organisations (as well as himself). Hes a school teacher but seems to spam nationalist stuff on messageboards as a past time.[5] - Thomas Gun (talk) 01:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Just checked the British people article and you're doing a great job. In regards to Ireland, it may be worth noting the terms such as Jackeen, West Brit, "Castle Catholic" and Neo-Unionism to even out the purely Orangeman/Protestant info. As well as some history of mentioning native noble families who joined the aristocracy. At the moment most of the Irish articles seem to be written from a Provo point of view rather than an acamedic objectivity unfortunetly. When my ban is over I'll put some work into sorting them too. - Thomas Gun (talk) 01:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

English people

File:English people.png
English people.

Hey Jza, I made this montage of English people which may be useful for that article. I think its got a good broad cross section of all the different English people, some monarchs, a saint, authors, inventors, sportsman, musicians, actors, etc.

  • 1st row: Boudica, Alfred the Great, Geoffrey Chaucer, Edward the Confessor, Thomas More
  • 2nd row: William Shakespeare, Elizabeth I, Walter Raleigh, Guy Fawkes, Charlotte Brontë
  • 3rd row: Isaac Newton, Charles Dickens, Florence Nightingale, Lord Byron, Audrey Hepburn
  • 4th row: David Bowie, Princess Diana, David Beckham, Keira Knightley, Orlando Bloom.

- Thomas Gun (talk) 17:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

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I'm on to it.... commonshelper messed up the coding.... Jza84 (talk) 20:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


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Boundary

Can you take a look at File talk:Wiltshire outline map with UK.png? Michiel1972 (talk) 08:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Ooops! I'll try and fix this asap. Give me a reminder if I haven't fixed this in the next week or so. :) Jza84 (talk) 22:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Staffordshire map

In the WP article "Stourton, Staffordshire" your map is used, but the place is labelled "Stourbridge", not "Stourton". I do not know how to correct this. 82.47.19.178 12:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC) (WP user peterkingiron)

This user talk page is on my watchlist, so I've just noticed your problem and fixed it (with an edit to the Stourton, Staffordshire article only). -- Dr Greg  talk  17:47, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

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The source information on this file seems to be wrong. It claims to be from Geograph, but while it's clearly the same picture, the Geograph version is only 640×480 pixels, while yours is 1252×928 and seems to have detail not visible in the Geograph one. Could you update the image description to give an accurate source, please? --bjh21 (talk) 19:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I have uploaded the image as a like-for-like jpg. I can explain the source of the image (it is legitimate of course) but would prefer to do so via e-mail. The png version can probably be deleted. Jza84 (talk) 23:47, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I've taken that as confirmation that the source information on File:Chadderton Police Station.png was wrong, so I've marked it as having an unknown source. This should cause it to be deleted in due course unless you decide you can publicly explain where it came from. --bjh21 (talk) 12:30, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Even if you do explain publicly, you should still replace it with a JPEG image. Similarly please replace Oldham Parish Church 2009 and Burnage with JPEGs. (The geograph images you have uploaded as PNGs are noted and will be tidied in due course.) — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 23:18, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I'll try pick this up. Apologies for the mix-up. In former times I used to contact contributors (particially from Flickr, but sometimes Geograph) for original/higher res shots and the crop them or edit their colour/contrast properties... and then save them as PNGs (force of habit). I've since learnt that this wasn't best practice: I'm a Wikipedian rather than a Wikimedian. Jza84 (talk) 00:03, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
On reflection, explanation via e-mail may be acceptable but it should be sent to permissions-commons<at>wikimedia<dot>org. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 17:40, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Well the titular Chadderton png can definately be deleted as I've used the jpg as per the original source. Jza84 (talk) 00:17, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Combined UK county map (Tyne & Wear, Northumberland and Cumbria)

Hi Jza. Can I be cheeky and ask a favour? I want to complement the article on Hadrian's Wall with a route graphic. Would you be able to do something like your county maps but combining Tyne & Wear, Northumberland and Cumbria? It's a little (a lot, if I'm truthful) beyond my skills, I'm afraid. It would be a superb addition to the article. Cheers, - Sam.roebuck (talk) 23:30, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sam,
I'm sorry to let you down, but I'm pretty inactive at the moment. Just come on from time-to-time. Try the UK geography WikiProject on the English language Wikipedia - that's probably your best bet. Jza84 (talk) 21:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
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RE:Banderas Inglesas de Condado - SVG

Sorry for not getting back earlier :P. I'm done (or at least did the best I could) with South Yorkshire's flag (Sample), but I'm not sure what the license information should be. I'll do Tyne and Wear's now, and hopefully will at least start with Greater Manchester's today. Hope I can help, and let me know if you think there's anything else I can do. Germo (talk) 21:49, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that - according to the Flag Institute, county flags are in the public domain, while the rule with heraldry (and by extention, vexillology) seems to be that the compositions are free to reproduce - whereas its the blazon that has restrictions. The designs are reproduced throughout the internet. That's brilliant though. Thanks Germo, Jza84 (talk) 22:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
The rules for copyright in traditional European-based heraldry (where it's the textual blazon which is authoritative, and many different artistic renderings of the same blazon could be acceptable) are that if you make a new rendering from scratch (based on the blazon), then you own the copyright to your particular rendering. By the same token, of course, others own the copyrights to their renderings (unless copyright has expired by the normal rules...). AnonMoos (talk) 21:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Oxfordshire flag SVG

I actually did that one because it was quite trivial... AnonMoos (talk) 21:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

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I did a vector conversion of the first quarter only (sorry about the other three) -- see File:County Flag of Leicestershire (incomplete).svg ... AnonMoos (talk) 16:08, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

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Northamptonshire flags

Following a discussion on the Wikipedia article for Northamptonshire, I'm pretty sure that File:County Flag of Northamptonshire.png and File:Northamptonshire.gif are inaccurate as the county flags. That design doesn't seem to appear in reliable sources, and the website that it was sourced from is a very fringe nationalist (pro-BNP) website. That isn't proof their design is incorrect, but it does make them a questionable source. Unless you think that it's actually the correct flag, and better sources are available, I'll probably nom them for deletion so that people don't get confused? TheGrappler (talk) 23:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. It's a fair shout you've made, but it actually kinda has to be the county flag - rationale being that it's a, or rather the banner of arms of Northamptonshire County Council. This follows the convention used by other such flags (examples being the flag of Essex, the flag of Kent, the flag of the city of London, flag of Cumbria, flag of Cambridgeshire, flag of Cheshire, flag of Buckinghamshire etc etc), all of which are derived from the arms of county councils. Some counties do have additional/alternate flags (counties in the south west for example, like the new flag of Dorset which is only a year or so old), but they aren't sanctioned by the College of Arms (which is the relevant heraldic authority), meaning they are in production, but not official. It's worth pointing out that the Flag Institute is only an advisor/fraternaty, not a legal body; it's officiality is self-published/appointed, and has to work in partnership with the College of Arms in most, if not all cases.
I didn't spot dissidentcongress being a BNP-esq body (but can see it's a Eurosceptic and thus political website). I wasn't actually basing the flag design on their version, but rather just showing it as an example (so people don't think I've made it up entirely)... other examples do exist ([6], [7] - yes not brilliant sources, but note that all the other flags listed are correct), and a google search throws up too the correct design of the coat of arms (here). It's actually File:Northamptonshire Flag.PNG which probably needs deleting, as it is completely dubious in origin (and now appears in google image results). I'd ask that you hold back on the nom just yet as I'm confident its worth WikiCommons holding on to at least one proper version of the flag - and there are no alternative designs out there too. But we could hold back too on using it on Wikipedia until I/we track a better source down. Jza84 (talk) 02:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I wasn't trying to imply that the Flag Institute were "official" (or FOTW, who also don't have a pic of a Northamptonshire flag). I was just hoping to find confirmation that the purported flag was recognised or in use, since several readers at Talk:Northamptonshire had commented that they'd never seen the flag before. Dissident Congress is a strange site, I thought it was mostly a "we demand the return of the traditional counties" outfit until I turned to the some of their politics essays!
I think you're right, if there is a flag of Northamptonshire it should look like the one you've drawn. But I can't see much in the way of evidence that there is one, if you see what I mean? (Northamptonshire County Council sent this to be flown at the Department of Communities and Local Government, in contrast to the more "flag-like" examples sent by some other counties.
And yes, I'd noticed the other, entirely fictitious flag too! I'd tried deprecating them both on Wikipedia and am tempted to agree that the entirely fictitious one should be deleted - its use had crept into article-space despite a clear health warning on the file description! I'm in no rush to delete your design, I've just made it a bit less visible on Wikipedia until some sort of RS can be found.
For most circumstances that people have been using the flag (decorative, basically), it would probably be better to use the crest - but there's only a non-free version of it on Wikipedia. TheGrappler (talk) 21:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I agree with you on all the above. I'm thinking a couple of things based on the things we've discussed (and would appreciated it if you'd be able to take it forward at WP, should you agree too):
1) The English Wikipedia should be discouraged from putting "county flags" of any origin in infoboxes, because they are all guilty of having different or difficult origins. I think they'd be much better in the body of prose, with a proper, verifiable explanation. I think this should go for both ancient and modern counties.
2) Only depict the county flag if it can be attributed to a normal reliable source. So the flag of Lancashire could be traced to the Flag Institute and all the pomp and circumstance that appears in newspapers etc etc. It would allow editors to point out oddities, like the "Lancashire flag" being white up until a few years ago. Northants could omit the flag until something of a reliable source comes forward.
3) The WikiProject Northants be encouraged to drop/delete the dubious flag they have, and instead try to get a logo for their WikiProject (Greater Manchester does this to a degree). I could help create something if that helps?
4) I'll have a look at creating a free-to-use version of the Northants coat of arms, and (subsequently) try to upload a version of the county council's flag that flew at the Department of Communities not so long ago.
Would that help? Jza84 (talk) 22:20, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

<-- Reindenting

Thanks for putting some productive ideas forward. I'm quite happy to put forward any reasonable case on Wiki. Whether others agree, is a different question! en:Talk:List of English Flags is probably a good place to seek consensus on flags in general.

1) This is very sensible, although a lot of people seem to like their flags (in Devon and Cornwall in particular!). If there is an unequivocal county flag, perhaps it could be included with a text link saying "Flag" underneath, as is done for national flags in country infoboxes. (I doubt there is scope for articles on each county flag but e.g. "Flag of Devon" could be used as a redirect to the relevant section of "List of English flags", where all flags should be documented properly.) To some extent, the county flags are more applicable to infoboxes than county council coats of arms, particularly for ceremonial counties which have unitary authorities carved out of them, or for which the county council has been abolished! I do think that it's silly to give the county flags so much prominence - e.g. the Northants one appeared right at the top of the infobox, even above the map! - when their status is controvertible and some of them are just a few years old and not well-established yet. I suspect the way forward on this question will emerge by consensus of interested parties. I'm trying to standardise some of the county templates at the moment, so I'll see what I can do about driving this forward.

2) Exactly correct IMO. Undocumented flags have no place on Wikipedia articles - "List of English flags" seems a good place to list all the documented ones.

3) They could probably do with something more clearly "logo-ized" which won't escape into article-space, Greater Manchester being a good example! That's a question of persuading folk on the project, but it seems a sensible idea.

4) The County Council Flag is rather dull, isn't it? It's a shame that the flag you copied is so clearly superior! (If no RS come forward for it, it probably ought to disappear from Commons eventually. I fear some of the other-language Wikipedias have started using it too, so getting rid of it at source is a good idea. But I'm almost loathe to see it go!) Where does copyright stand for council coats of arms? My understanding is that a user-produced version can be freely licensed, but there are usage restrictions so e.g. somebody can't use the county council coat of arms in their advertisements without permission. But sites like http://www.civicheraldry.co.uk/northants.html claim that the councils hold the copyright, which sounds like a misunderstanding to me. At any rate, your new coat of arms image is a really nice piece of work! If the other rather trivial elements are added to create the County Council Flag (as presented to DCLG), does the flag as a whole remain freely-licensed? And a pedantic query: should the blazon information on the Commons file description have some sort of reference quoted?

Many thanks again for your input, TheGrappler (talk) 01:37, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

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South Yorkshire

What is your evidence for showing the lower part of the former South Yorkshire county council's flag, and the outline of the white rose on it, as being in a purply pink shade?

I have a small paper version of the flag, produced by the county council itself, in which they are dark blue.

John Cartledge 8.2.11

Hi there - there's tons of evidence out there online, all of which show the flag as consisting of green, white and (importantly), purple. I'm really just following convention, but I'll give you some links as evidence:
As you can see, there's an abundance of photographs out there showing it as purple. But I'm really interested in seeing the blue version - are you able to photograph/scan it and upload? Hope so, Jza84 (talk) 01:12, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

The small (105x75 mm) paper flag in my possession was given away by South Yorkshire county council as part of its campaign against abolition in the 1980s, which leads me to believe its colours are authentic. Unfortunately, the council has not existed for 25 years, so it would be hard to find anyone who could speak for it now, but the secretary of the Flag Institute has said that "I agree with you regarding the shade of colour on the item you attached" (which was the image from your site).

The green is much darker than the shade used in the various commercial replicas you have listed, but more importantly the lower stripe, if it is purple at all, is so dark a shade as to be effectively navy blue. My recollection is that it has not changed colour whilst in my possession, but if it had, it would have faded to a lighter shade, not a darker one. I have uploaded a photograph of it to Wikimedia where it has the page URL http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:South_Yorkshire_flag_001.jpg.

I hope this is helpful. John Cartledge.

Hi John,
That's actually really helpful of you. Although I think the flag has faded very slightly with age, it is clear that the colours are (or at least were) significantly different to those modern versions which nudged me to use magenta. My guess is that rather than the magenta/red-violet used by myself and others, the flag more properly uses something like a Dark Blue Violet, Federal Blue or a Dark Purple.
I can also tell your flag is authentic as it uses the correct version of the Rose of York and the "SY" lettering/petals are spaced correctly (unlike mine which is a replica).
I'll try to amend the version I uploaded, but ideally I'd want to see the image re-drawn in SVG format to match your photograph. Thanks again, Jza84 (talk) 17:27, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
--I've uploaded new versions of the flag using the correct/original colours. Hopefully that should resolve the issues at hand. Jza84 (talk) 11:17, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Burnley

Thanks for the Coat of Arms, great job! Sorry for the delay, I don’t send much time in the commons.--Trappedinburnley (talk) 18:13, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jza84, hope you're doing well. If I remember correctly, you have a fluickr account don't you? Is there any chance you could talk to the guy who took this photo and see if he's willing to change the licensing to something compatible with Wikipedia's terms of use? I've reworked the article on Groby Castle over on Wikipedia (not much to say about it really, but it was just on TV so thought it could do with sprucing up a bit) and think that photo would be a great addition. Cheers, Nev1 (talk) 19:22, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Nev1 - all sorted. Licence changed. Hope that helps, Jza84 (talk) 10:59, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
That's great, thanks to you and of course the photographer who agreed to change the licence. Nev1 (talk) 13:20, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Flags request

Hi there! It's been a long while since you made your request at the Graphics Lab, but I've created them. I was wondering if you'd be able to check them and comment, maybe? I'm planning to redo the Edinburgh one to match it better, but any comments are appreciated. NikNaks talk - gallery - wikipedia 13:21, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Boar Support and Tudor Crest

Hello, sorry to disturb you with that, but I admire your drawings and I am not very bright I even with inkscape. A boar support and could be made for me has pink Crest with the Tudor. Thank SanglierT (talk) 08:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm very sorry but I don't understand this request entirely. Jza84 (talk) 08:53, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
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I'm looking at this file, and am not sure I understand what you mean... AnonMoos (talk) 00:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

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Do you mean over-under interlacing, as in artistic knotwork?? If so, this is only rather ambiguously indicated in [8] (hard to see anything at all unless you magnify it to about 500% of basic pixel size), while it's also barely visible in the originally-uploaded version of File:Flag of the West Midlands County.svg (which is why I took it for unintended artefacts of the vectorization process). If a real-world flag were to be made to the pattern of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/1/17/20110318024804%21Flag_of_the_West_Midlands_County.svg , you would have to have your nose pressed right up against the cloth to see it. The design does not seem to conform to the ordinary artistic conventions of heraldic interlacing (such as for indicating "chevronels braced" etc.), so I'm not sure I'd really know what needs to be done to "fix" it... AnonMoos (talk) 09:21, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, I know exactly what "knotwork" is, and I know what the more or less quasi-standard representations of interlacing are in a heraldry (see File:Cross-Triple-Parted-Fretted-Or.svg and File:Mustasaari vaakuna.svg etc.), but I don't really know what "metalwork" means in this context, and if a somewhat non-standard heraldic artistic effect is aimed for, I wouldn't necessarily know what to do to implement it correctly... AnonMoos (talk) 12:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Lines separating tinctures

In traditional heraldry, whether two non-sable colors were separated by a thin black line on a shield or heraldic standard was in most cases considered an optional decision to be left up to the artist. Neither including nor omitting such lines was considered incorrect... AnonMoos (talk) 13:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. If it's the GM flag you're referring to, then that's kinda exactly why I asked for the change. I thought it had the line, but when I've bought an actual flag, it doesn't have it. I've just omitted the line purely for consistency reasons. My artwork isn't always acurate. Jza84 (talk) 13:59, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Stockport Borough Council CoA

Hi Jza84.

Really like the coat of arms you've produced.

I'd really like use the Stockport Borough Council design, if that's okay with you?

If it helps, you can email me at stuart (at) wearethoughtful.com and I can give you a few more details.

Thanks Stuart

Hi Stuart, take a look at the "Permission" section of the Stockport arms page (here). That should give you everything you need. In short, you are free to use it but with certain conditions laid out in that section - for example you shouldn't use the arms in a way that suggests Stockport Council approves or endores something. Hope that helps, Jza84 (talk) 15:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Montage request

Dear Jza84, could you please make montage about Azerbaijani people like the way you did with Welsh people for WikiProject Azerbaijan? http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:21_Welsh_people.png

You can use photos from Wiki Commons and if is not hard please uses this people's pictures: Mammad Amin Rasulzade http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MEResulzade.jpg Fatali Khan Khoyski http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Khoysky.jpeg, Sami Yusuf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sami_Yusuf.jpg, Mehdi Huseynzade http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Mehdi-Huseynzade.jpg, Lotfi A.Zadeh http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Lotfi_A._Zadeh%282004%29.jpg, Rashid Behbudov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rashid_Behbudov_2.jpg, Shovkat Mammadova http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:S_mammadova2.jpg Mohammad-Hossein Shahriar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shahriyar.jpg Abbasgulu Bakikhanov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qudsi.jpg Heydar Aliyev http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Heydar_Aliyev_1997.jpg Safura Alizadeh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flickr_-_aktivioslo_-_Safura_-_Aserbajdsjan_%281%29_cropped.jpg Uzeyir Hajibeyov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%C3%9Czeyir_Hac%C4%B1b%C9%99yov5.gif Ali-Agha Shikhlinski http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shikhlinski.jpg Zeynalabdin Taghiyev http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zeynalabdin-taghiyev.jpg Khurshidbanu Natavan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Natavan.jpg Mirza Alakbar Sabir http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sabir.jpg Teimour Radjabov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Teimour_Radjabov_grandmaster.jpg

Your help will be greatly appreciated.--Alakbaroff (talk) 01:54, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Arms of Faversham

Could you upload the SVG version of thanks. In fact, you have made a lot of great arms, but you seem to have only uploaded png files, even though you used inkscape. why not replace them with the vector file?

I think you might be mistaken... well I know you are if I'm to be bold. I never drew this in inkscape - User:Sodacan did. I just manipulated the file in bitmap format I'm afraid. Sorry I can't help. Jza84 (talk) 23:51, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

SVG format

Sorry for this answer but, why do not you upload your picture in svg format? SanglierT (talk) 12:36, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Because I don't work in svg format. I don't have the training or understanding for vector graphics. Jza84 (talk) 08:06, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
This is unfortunate because your work is pretty good, but it is impossible to reuse them for other wikimedia Production. Did you try to use inkscape, this is a free and rather intuitive and requires no special knowledge. Thank you for responding in all cases. Cordially Mathieu C. (talk) 08:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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English people

Hi,

I was wondering if you could please swap Daniel Craig for Bede? The reasons:

1. We already have few actors in the image. Unlike the other 2, Craig though popular is not considered as legendary. He is good but far from being on the top list of all time English actors.

2. Bede is the "father of English history", and to be honest I was shocked to see he's not in the image.

I opened a discussion about it on the English people page but for a reason no one writes there since August.

If you want to write me back, if it's ok please use Wikipedia: [9]. Thank you!

Hi - Thanks for the contact. As editors of that page seem incapable of taking the time out to pick up a book and actually spend quality time building an encyclopedic account of the tribe/ethnic group/nation/citizenship, I don't feel I want to help. Nearly half a decade on since I started helping out around that topic, editors seem obsessed with two things on that page - the introduction and the montage of faces - but won't visit a library and provide proper third party sources about such an important topic. I did it with Cornish people and British people, but after taking a break from Wikipedia, the same old unreferenced nonsense has turned up in them - with some editors with long histories actually manipulating referenced material to suit their views and reducing good quality articles to embarrassing mush. Sorry for taking it out on / ranting at you, but, having looked at the talk page, and British and Cornish people, I'm mildly irritated to say the least! Jza84 (talk) 19:22, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Autopatrol given

Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have granted autopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically marked as "reviewed". This has no effect on your editing, it is simply intended to make it easier for users that are monitoring Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones like yours. In addition, the Flickr upload feature and an increased number of batch-uploads in UploadWizard, uploading of freely licensed MP3 files, overwriting files uploaded by others and an increased limit for page renames per minute are now available to you. Thank you. odder (talk) 17:40, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you sir! Jza84 (talk) 15:43, 15 February 2013 (UTC)