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Loading some good images too! Victuallers (talk) 19:25, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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— Racconish^☎ 14:47, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

You might be interested by this image. — Racconish^☎ 06:55, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

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Jonund (talk) 10:17, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

File:Central African Rifts.svg

Hello.

Can you add the borders of South Sudan and Eritrea in the File:Central African Rifts.svg you uploaded?

I am adding South Sudan (as well as Montenegro and other possible missing updates) in the PNG maps in Category:Maps needing South Sudan political boundaries and then remove this category after updating them. There were close to 1100 maps since I started to update these files, now it is reduced to less than 750 maps, but there is a long way to go.

Unfortunately I don't know how to edit SVG maps myself, that is why I asked you.

Thank you.

Maphobbyist (talk) 21:27, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

@Maphobbyist: I have added a very approximate boundary for Eritrea, but am struggling to fit in South Sudan under all the rift detail. There is a free SVG editor called Inkscape, but it takes a bit of experiment to make it work. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:33, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the update and information. Unfortunately I am totally "illiterate" when it comes to SVG files. Maphobbyist (talk) 23:20, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Bassin Tchad

Hello Aymatth2,

Thank you for these fantastic images. Just wondering if it is possible to have an isolated svg for the Tchad Bassin. Same as the one you made for the Iullemmeden bassin. Thank you very much for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hich91 (talk • contribs) 14:28, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

There is a map of the river basin, File:Chad River Basin relief 2.png. I do not know of an online map of the Sedimentary Basin, which is slightly smaller. If there were one, I could use it as the basis for an svg. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

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— Racconish ^💬 14:44, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for writing the excellent essay Commons:Collective work. Over time and with community comment this could be the foundation of a Commons guideline that everyone follows. Your proposal here would not be obvious to many people first encountering the problem you address but I think after reading this essay many people would find this advice to be a good idea. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:28, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Collective work at risk

Hi Aymatth2, I do not understand, what is going on here? Why should we think it has any copyrights whatsoever? Disquieting. Iñaki LL (talk) 21:06, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

This is just a warning. The newspaper is in the public domain since it was published in 1936, more than 70 years ago, but an individual contribution would not be public domain if its author was still alive 70 years ago, which is quite likely. The contribution could not be pulled out and published stand-alone without violating the author's copyright. The only attributed piece I see is a short notice from Ramón Sierra Bustamante (1898–1988), the civil governor, which may not be subject to copyright since it is an official communication (I do not know if that applies in Spain). But unattributed articles would be protected if the author was identified later. Aymatth2 (talk) 23:42, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Danzig Free State

I think in English it should be called Free City of Danzig. --jdx ^Re: 09:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

You are right. I will fix it. Aymatth2 (talk) 11:54, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Copyright rules by territory/Germany

Hi, Aymatth2,

regarding your recent changes to Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Germany, I would like to ask you to pay a bit more attention, particularly so because you seem to be doing a revamp of dozens of other Rules by Territory pages as well. I don't know if you have noticed my reverts (which is why I'm writing this). Last week, you claimed the regular term of protection is 50 years. That was wrong, and I fixed it. Then a few days ago, you added a statement saying that "the main IP law" of Germany currently is the 1907 Kunsturhebergesetz. That was also wrong. All of the copyright provisions went out of force in the 1960s when the Urheberrechtsgesetz went into force. Besides, "the main IP law" seems like a rather odd choice of terminology. Intellectual property law includes not only copyright but also patent law (Patent Act), design law (Designs Act), among others. These are not "lesser" IP laws.

I also noticed that you are adding to the country profiles the date of accession to the WIPO Convention. Why do you think this is relevant? The WIPO Convention is an administrative treaty that established the WIPO. It doesn't contain any copyright or related provisions. From my experience in the field of IP law, it is extremely rare somebody even mentions that convention (why would they?), and the treaty seems clearly irrelevant for any practical purpose here on Commons. On the other hand, the infobox does not make any mention of the date of accession to the 1996 WIPO treaties (WCT/WPPT) - which would be infinitely more valuable information as it may actually affect the interpretation of the law. (However, I doubt it makes much sense, from an effort/benefit perspective, to give these dates on Commons in the first place. The few users familiar with the international copyright system know where to find them.)

Best, — Pajz (talk) 10:25, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

@Pajz: Thank you for your feedback. I have been working in a bit of a vacuum, trying to consolidate information in country specific pages from scattered sources in Wikimedia Commons and from the WIPO Lex database, and appreciate advice from an informed contributor. See here for the discussion before I started this project. I do not pretend to be an expert on copyright laws, so am mostly relying on copy-and-paste.
WIPO is not as complete as I would like, but seems a good starting point, with some information for almost all countries. The WIPO Lex entry on Copyright and Related Rights for Germany is here. It is pedantically accurate to say "listed the [law] as the main IP law enacted by the legislature", since that is the heading used by WIPO.
Typically WIPO puts the base act for current copyright law at the foot of their list, often with consolidated amendments, and above that lists the amending acts and acts on other IP topics such as patents and collective management. With Germany, WIPO puts the Act of January 9, 1907 (as amended up to Act of February 16, 2001) at the foot of the list. I did not spot that further up they put the September 9, 1965 Copyright Act, as amended up to Act of September 1, 2017, which is obviously the one that applies. It is not clear why WIPO would have given the text of the 1907 act, since they usually only list acts that are still relevant, or why Germany would have been amending the 1907 act up to 2001 when it had been replaced by the 1965 act. I am glad you spotted the problem. I will add a pointer to the 1965 act as amended.
I have no idea where "50 years" came from. I usually try to be very careful, and that makes no sense. Hopefully there are not too many other errors.
Yes, WIPO treaty date would be much more relevant. I may take another pass through WIPO Lex and add it in.
Thank you again for the feedback. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Note on transclusion limitations

As you continue to move things to their respective base pages I just want to make you aware of an odd limitation with mediawiki that shouldn't become a problem but if it does at least I can make sure it is well know since it is something a lot of people never run into. Mediawiki actually has a hard limit on the number of things that can be transcluded onto one page and it is not based on the number of transclusions but on the size of said transclusions. These limits are also hidden so they aren't readily available unless you know where to look. You have to edit the entire page, preview the page while in editing mode, then scroll all the way down the very bottom where you'll see something titled "Parser profiling data". Within there is something that says "Post-expand include size". Right now COM:FOP is listed at 1,125,386/2,097,152 bytes. Looking at what you have left there I don't think you'll reach the limit but if you do transclusion will actually break. This can be seen on old DR listing pages that haven't been processed yet. For example after Commons:Deletion requests/2018/07#File:Aldo Mieli.jpg is just a bunch of #ifexist statements. Those show because the page has reached it transclusion limit and everything after that limit fails to render. Like I said, I don't believe you will hit this limit going off of what you have left to do on that specific page. But I don't know about any other pages you are planning on doing or if I'm just bad at guesstimating. So if that does happen and everything starts breaking this is why. --Majora (talk) 22:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Majora: Thanks for the heads-up. I actually hit that limit when I was spitting out and transcluding the content from COM:CRT. If you check Commons:Copyright rules by territory#Consolidated lists you will see the work-around. The same sort of approach may be needed on COM:FOP, and I may follow it even if I do not hit the limit. Huge list-type pages are awkward to load, but have some value for maintenance. Commons:Copyright rules by territory#Consolidated lists is a reasonable compromise, I think. Meanwhile, I am holding my breath every time I save with one more transclusion! Thanks again for the warning. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Freedom of panorama/AllEurope

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A.Savin 12:07, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	for the overhaul of the the copyright rules by country. Yann (talk) 02:28, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Stamps

All the work you have done on the stamp details look good now that you have transcluded them from Commons:Stamps/Public domain to the individual country copyright pages. So, a couple of questions. How are those of us have an interest in the worldview of the stamp copyright to see if someone makes any changes that would need review for accuracy or just awareness? Any details that are unknown now, but are added won't appear on Commons:Stamps/Public domain unless the editor knows to transclude it. I'm not going to add every country copyright page to my watchlist just to watch postage stamp copyright details that I have been doing for over 12 years, unless you know a better way. Ww2censor (talk) 22:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@Ww2censor: Now that all the information on copyright laws, durations, tags, stamps, currency, freedom of panorama etc. for a given country are consolidated on one page, it will be easier to ensure that the information is all consistent with that country's current copyright laws, and it will be easier for a contributor to find out if the image they want to upload is o.k. But it is less convenient for people who have a specialized interest in a particular aspect of copyright rules.

To the first point, check Commons:Stamps/Public domain/AllAfrica. This is a transcluded list of all sections with the title "Stamps" in any of the country-specific pages. If an editor adds a section for "Stamps" to Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Algeria, it will show up on the list – they do not have to know how to transclude it, but do have to use the right title. It would be simple to replace the list in Commons:Stamps/Public domain with an automatic list of all countries, or to make a separate list of all countries. Should I do the first or the second? It would just take a few minutes.
To the second point, I do not have a good answer. If someone changes Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Ethiopia#Stamps the change will show up for anyone watching the Ethiopia page, and will be reflected on the Commons:Stamps/Public domain page, but will not show as a watchlist change to the Commons:Stamps/Public domain page. Before, if someone changed Commons:Stamps/Public domain#Ethiopia a person watching the Ethiopia page would not see it. The underlying problem is that there is no way to watch a set of sections in a group of pages, e.g. all "Stamps" or all "Ethiopia" sections in [page list]. You do not want to see all the changes to the "Germany" page, and someone interested only in Germany does not want to see all the changes in the "Stamps" page.

I have just finished a fairly mechanical process of pulling together different types of information for each country. There are a lot of inconsistencies. The standard durations may come from the original 1997 Act, the currency duration comes from the 2010 revision, and WIPO says the 2015 Act has completely replaced the 1997 Act. To me the first priority is to bring all the country rule sets up to the same consistent level, and that can only be done if all the rules for each country are held in one place. I believe the new structure is on balance an improvement, but will think on about how to address your very real concern, and welcome suggestions. I will post it on the technical support pages – there just may be an easy solution. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:12, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

I've been having a good think about the implementation you have done of all the country copyright pages and as I mentioned I have determined that patrolling each individual country copyright page would mean having them all on ones watchlist. What is more likely is that some editors, like me, have an interest in stamps or FoP and their copyright details, which I have been doing here for about 12 years, and maybe they have an interest a selection of countries. Freedom of panorama is another specialised interest. Errors have been made and modifications of various kinds must be reviewed, so these need to be watched and that will be virtually impossible without an additional approximately 200 pages to add to ones watchlist. While the individual country pages do look good, I think the implementation has been done in reverse. On the Stamps talk page you asked about which way the transclusion should be done and I did not see that there would be an issue except now that it has been done I see the issue. What you really need to do was transclude the Stamps and FoP country sections into the individual country pages and not the way you did. That way specialist watchers need only watch the Stamps or FOP page and whatever countries they are interested in, not 200 additional pages. I really feel that is much more practical and effective for real world editors then the new system you made and they still see the stamps and FoP details for individual countries. Editors can then patrol any changes to those topics. It may be quite a bit more work but I suggest reverting to roughly this edit for the Stamps page and transclude the entries from there. Think about it as it makes much more sense and the pages still retain all the same information.

This page Commons:Stamps/Public domain/AllAfrica does not offer a solution either make little sense until the Stamps or FoP pages get too long. Then they can be split into continent pages but only when absolutely necessary. Ww2censor (talk) 22:41, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

@Ww2censor: I recognise your concern. Some points:

Before starting this large and tedious job of consolidating information into country-specific pages I opened up discussions on the topic pages, and left these discussions open for over a week. I received no objections, some support, and have generally had positive feedback over the result.
Simply reverting to the earlier topic-specific pages is not an option, since it would leave content duplicated on the country pages and the topic pages, and these versions would inevitably start to diverge. Already changes have been made to the rules on the country pages.
It would take another major job to transfer the content back to all the topic-specific pages and place transclusions on the country pages. This should only be started after gaining consensus at Commons:Village pump/Copyright or some other widely used forum.
I have opened the question of a technical solution to the watchlist problem at Commons:Help desk#Section watch, but so far have not got any workable suggestion. There may be one though. I would not want to undertake another huge job to switch all the content back to the topic pages and then find it was not needed.
The basic question, to me, is whether the rules for German freedom of panorama, for example, are more likely to be maintained by people interested in German rules or in freedom of panorama rules. If the laws or legal findings change, who is more likely to spot the change and to correctly interpret the implications?

Let's give the new structure a try for a few weeks, so people can get used to it, and then we can discuss further improvements. I would not rule out moving the country/topic sections from the country pages to the topic pages, but would not want to rush into it. Aymatth2 (talk) 23:33, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for reply so quickly. Don't get me wrong it all LOOKS good but that is not the issue. Yes it would be a quite lot of work to redo but perhaps no one really thought about the practicality until now I had to review and fe pages and even wanted to edit some stamp details so only then did I really see the problem and yes you did ask but that's not the point. I do not expect you to simply revert just the stamps and FoP pages but you obviously have to retransclude those details into the country pages to avoid duplication. I could help if you need but the longer it gets left I doubt anyone will have the will to do anything. Let's do it while it is fresh. Virtually there will be virtually no difference. Each individual country only need to be edited once to remove the details and replace with the transclusion. In response to your hypothetical German question, it does not matter which page they come to. If they arrive at the country page they will clearly see it is transcluded and make the appropriate edits on the main page. Then anyone watching the FoP page will see the edit but does have to also watch the German country page. Somewhere I seem to remember reading that having many tranclusions on one page put more demands on the servers to deliver the page but I don't know where I read that. Obviously transcluding from the topic pages means the country pages have a few trasnclusion while the current Stamps or FoP page have loads (I did not count them). Think about as i think it would be better to do sooner rather than later, and as I said I'd lend a hand. Ww2censor (talk) 00:18, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

@Ww2censor: The recent restructuring was discussed at length in various places, starting with the Village pump, over several weeks. It took a lot of work, starting with creation of individual pages for each country. A decision to make a further major change should not be rushed. We need to take the time to digest the effects of the new structure, good and bad, and then to discuss further improvements. Aymatth2 (talk) 02:05, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

To get a sense of the size of the problem, I did a rough analysis of the Commons:Stamps edit history, skipping my own edits. There have been 490 total edits since the page was created in February 2006 by Sebjarod. No changes were made between 30 May 2018 and 18 October 2018. Excluding users who only edited on one or two days, 24 users made 314 edits. Of these, five made edits in 2017 or 2018:

Last edit	First edit	User	Total edits
21 February 2018	19 June 2016	Materialscientist	8
21 May 2018	12 August 2017	Gone Postal	33
13 November 2018	12 April 2012	Gestumblindi	6
31 October 2018	18 September 2007	Ww2censor	51
15 February 2017	22 July 2016	Oobmak	3

The new structure does not affect the ability of these editors to view or change Stamps information, but does make it harder for them to watch for changes to this information. On the other hand, it is now much easier for editors interested in the rules for a particular country to monitor and change information on all aspects of that country's rules. One possible solution, which may be useful on other wikis and other types of transclusion page, would involve a bot. It would

Take a copy of Commons:Stamps after transclusion and save it as Commons:Stamps/Rendered
Repeat every day, but only save to Commons:Stamps/Rendered if there has been a change

Users interested in monitoring changes would just have to watch Commons:Stamps/Rendered and check the diffs to this page. I will follow up with the techies to see how hard it would be to develop a bot like this. It is quite possible that something similar exists already. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:47, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Stamps: break

See Commons:Copyright rules by territory/El Salvador for an example of a correction to stamps information while updating the country information. Aymatth2 (talk) 23:24, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- That's exactly my point: if I want to see such edits to review or patrol those changes I have to watchlist every country. Anyway, I already did one like that. If your bot suggestion would work it might solve the issue but I'm unsure about that. Ww2censor (talk) 00:49, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
The person interested only in reviewing or patroling changes to rules for El Salvador or Central America does not want to check all the changes to the Stamps, Currency, FOP, etc. pages. Other examples:
- When updating Honduras to reflect current law, I flipped "Freedom of panorama" from "OK" to "Not OK". The phrase "for personal use" had apparently been added some time between 2000 and 2006.
- When expanding the page for Saint Vincent and the Grenadines I added a section for "Freedom of panorama". This automatically appears in Commons:Freedom of panorama/AllAmericas#Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.

It is much easier when reviewing a new or amended law to make all the changes in one place, on the country's page. The changes will show on watchlists of people interested in that country. Perhaps we can find a way to make them also show on watchlists of people interested in specific topics. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:50, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

I still think you just don't get it. So let's look at your example: The person interested only in reviewing or patrolling changes to rules for El Salvador or Central America does not want to check all the changes to the Stamps, Currency, FOP, etc. pages maybe not, but they would only need to watchlist El Salvador and the topic pages, perhaps a total of 4 or 5 pages but the topic watchers have to watchlist every country page, making how many, about 200. Your example actually proves my point exactly. Ww2censor (talk) 17:17, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

We cannot please everyone unless the bot-type solution or some equivalent is practical. My sympathy is with the El Salvador user, perhaps a native of that country, contributor of many images of El Salvador, and the closest we have to an expert on the copyright laws of El Salvador. He should not have to check thousands of watchlist alerts on the topic pages, none of which concern El Salvador. He should be able to manage the rules for his country in one place. He will be the first line of defense for spotting vandalism or innocent errors with the rules for El Salvador. The topic expert can perhaps add more value by periodically scanning all the entries for their topic to ensure completeness and consistency in vocabulary and style. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

FoP links

Hi Aymatth2,
I reverted your edit because thousands of active links like these (and even these) turned dead. Sealle (talk) 21:02, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Sealle: Thanks - My mistake. I should have anticipated that. There is no urgency to get rid of this list, particularly when there is a deletion discussion about the per-continent lists that would replace it. Would you see a problem if the only links left were from archived pages? Aymatth2 (talk) 00:02, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Well, if I understood your question correctly, I’m pretty sure that links of the form COM:FOP#Australia will continue to be created on talkpages by virtue of habit. Beyond that, I find it convenient to compare the peculiarities of different countries’ legislation on the same page. Sealle (talk) 08:26, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

@Sealle: I can see value in comparing the countries, but the main COM:FOP is getting a bit big, at 1,332,639 bytes out of a maximum allowed 2,097,152 bytes. It will have to be broken up at some point. The five regional pages like COM:FOP/Africa are smaller, load faster, and also show countries that do not have FOP rules defined. At some point we should think about moving to them. Habits are hard to break. I can make shortcuts like COM:Australia#FOP and change all active links over to them. Maybe with time people will get used to them. Thoughts? Aymatth2 (talk) 13:17, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

I suppose, this issue is worth discussing with the community at COM:VPP. Sealle (talk) 13:23, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

I can start a discussion there. I will hold off for a couple of weeks though. The consolidation of rules on country-specific pages like COM:Australia is new, and other issues like the broken links to COM:FOP are bound to emerge. Best to see what they are first. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:36, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

@Sealle: I started a discussion at COM:VPP#Split up Freedom of Panorama country list. Before doing so I went through the obvious license templates and pointed them to the country-specific articles, looked at categories etc. But there are still huge numbers of links to entries in the COM:FOP country table. Comments welcome. Don't be polite. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:37, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

It's time to create a navigational template

First of all, thanks for all your hard work in splitting and researching all the copyright rules per territory, it's a great and noble endeavour. However when I'm on a page I cannot see any navigational templates at the bottom for navigating between countries, did you just forget about it or are you planning on creating one after you're done with all of the hard work in first creating these pages? Maybe listing all countries in one template would overpopulate it, you could split it per continent and then link to the other navigational templates with a "See also" tab, and maybe historical (extinct) territories could also have their own navigational template for places like the Free City of Danzig and Yugoslavia while they could also both be listed at Europe, but that Manchukuo would be listed at "extinct States and territories" and can still be included in the Asia template. Anyhow there are many ways to go about it. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:21, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Why did I not think of that? I actually made a template, {{Copyright rules by territory}}, very early in the process, but it did not occur to me to put it at the foot of all the country pages. I don't think it is too big: it can default to state collapsed. I will tidy it up, then go ahead and add it. Thanks - an excellent suggestion. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:10, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Done. Definitely an improvement. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:37, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I did notice that you had them in earlier drafts. Feel free to add improvements to them as you go, your restructuring is really making it easier to learn what copyright rules apply where. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 15:13, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

I made the template when we were just discussing moving everything to country-specific pages, and put it into COM:CRT and COM:FOP, but did not think to put it in the country pages. It helps pull them all together. Thanks for the suggestion and the feedback. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Scale bar on "Maps for Free"

Hallo Aymatth2,

how did you get in the File:Imatong Mountains.png the scale bar in? By hand or is there a function on Maps for free. Regards Peter in s (talk) 13:51, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Peter in s: that was 7 years ago! It looks to me as though I put it in by hand. I probably matched the map to Google Maps to get the scale and other locations, but that is just a guess. Aymatth2 (talk) 21:38, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. I just hoped there is an easier way. Peter in s (talk) 02:46, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

OTRS translations

Hi, could you add translation marks to Template:OTRS backlog? Thanks in advance, --Elisardojm (talk) 06:58, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

@Elisardojm: Done. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!--Elisardojm (talk) 06:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion policy/es

The page had been wiped out by a vandal before you started to migrate to Translate extension, so perhaps you could import TUs once again? --jdx ^Re: 20:41, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

@Jdx: I have done what I can. The translation was started long ago, and since then the English version was drastically rearranged and content was added and deleted. The translation needs a thorough review. Aymatth2 (talk) 23:32, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Copyright rules Suriname

Thank you for adding this information about Suriname. I added a link to the text on Wikisource and provided information on the 2015, which is unfortunately not included in the text on the WIPO website. All the best, Pinatyaimi (talk) 23:58, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks - I have marked that for translation. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:27, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

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Commons:Freedom of panorama/Americas

Hi,

On Commons:Freedom of panorama/Americas (and other similar pages), is it possible to remove the territories without specific laws? I'm thinking in particular of the parts of France which don't have specific legislations.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:23, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: The pages use master lists of all countries and territories in a region such as "Americas" or "Africa", and these lists are used by various other pages. For each entry they look for a section called "Commons:Copyright rules by territory/entry name#Freedom of Panorama", and render the content of that section. If there is no such section for a territory, e.g. French Guiana, they render "No information available".

It would not be practical to maintain separate territory lists for the FOP overview pages like Commons:Freedom of panorama/Americas. I suppose they could skip entries where there is no information available, but that may cause confusion. A better alternative could be to make a section in COM:CRT French Guiana like

==Freedom of Panorama==

See COM:FOP France

I have done this for Guadeloupe. Think it works... Aymatth2 (talk) 14:05, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, I know that and yes, it works. My question was: isn't there a way to shortcut this module? (I know that some template do that, like Template:Departments of France who only create links when the page exists, see Category:Basilicas in Ille-et-Vilaine for instance).

The underlying question is: what is the point of saying that a part of France follow the laws of France? This seems to me strange and pointless. The more I think about it, the more I wonder why there is page like Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Guadeloupe in the first place. Shouldn't it be deleted or at least turned into redirect?

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 14:54, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

There are former colonial territories scattered around the world with statuses that range from fully integrated to fully independent. Often they have the same copyright laws as the parent country, but often they do not. A contributor may upload pictures from a Caribbean cruise, then get into a discussion on Freedom of Panorama. It is helpful to have short pages that says the laws of France apply to Guadeloupe, Martinique etc., although the laws of the United Kingdom do not apply to Bermuda, Barbados etc.. In New Caledonia the local government assumed legal control over intellectual property in 2013 but continues to apply French law. That may not remain the case. My instinct is to spell out the rules wherever contributors may be uncertain. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:01, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but in the case of France (the most extended country of the world), it's almost always fully integrated (and for a long time). New Caledonia is the only exception and may or may not become independent in the next years (there is a referendum again this year), for now it's still fully integrated in France with only some minor adjustments like the Loi du pays (who are not law despite their names, more local rules still under French national law and French government). I'm not sure where your sentence « the local government assumed legal control over intellectual property in 2013 » comes from but it's an approximation at best. And New Caledonia is an exception, all other territories are fully integrated. Martinique is more integrated than a state of the US for instance, states that are not mention in the list of territories of Americas. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 07:59, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

See [1] for New Caledonia. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:58, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

There are ways to address the problem:

Technically the template that generates these FOP overviews could be changed to skip entries: if it can render "No information available" it can render [null]. But then it would drop Central African Republic, Comoros, Equatorial Guinea and so on from the lists. Those countries belong in the FOP overviews, which link to their COM:CRT articles, so users can see we have information about their copyright rules, just nothing specific to FOP.
We could drop the French departments from the lists in Module:Countries/Americas etc., but that would probably give unacceptable results for other pages that use these modules and that think Guadeloupe is a place of interest distinct from metropolitan France. E.g. Category:Cayman Islands.
We could clone Module:Countries/Americas etc. and make versions that do not include the French overseas departments. That would probably be the cleanest approach, although it would cause a minor maintenance problem: countries do sometimes change their name or become independent.

But I come back to the fact that our contributors on their Caribbean vacations will often be unaware that Guadeloupe etc. are fully integrated into France. Little pages like COM:CRT Guadeloupe have value in giving that information, which would be lost in the larger COM:France article. All the significant islands or island groups are in the FOP lists. Dropping the French overseas territories seems confusing, with no benefit to our contributors. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:58, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

I think we should agree to disagree. For me it make zero sense to create dozen of almost empty pages just to say "there is nothing to say" (and not talking about the burden to maintain, update and translate these pages). I'm guessing I'll launch a wider discussion to get more points of view. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 16:01, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: The FOP overviews are consistent with the other pages that use Module:Countries. The 13 small pages exist, require no maintenance and give useful information. I see no reason to delete them. If we did, we would have to create variants of the large and complex Module:Countries, Module:Countries/Americas etc., which would have to be maintained and translated. Please let me know if you start a discussion so I can contribute. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I created a discussion on Commons:Village pump. If there is a consensus, I will be glad to help improve these 13 pages (and Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Overseas France which is strange - it look like Guadeloupe or Saint-Pierre-and-Miquelon follow French laws since 1946 or 2003 while it does since at least 1534... - and all the translations) but it would be a lot of work and I don't want to start unnecessary work. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 17:44, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Copyright in Brazil

Hi! It looks like you know about the copyrights in Brazil. What about files like this File:Museu do Ipiranga, SP.webm? It is from Flickr and the uploader on Flickr is "Arquivo Nacional do Brasil". Do you know if it is {{PD-BrazilGov}}? As I read the template it looks like it is if the museum is a part of the government. --MGA73 (talk) 18:55, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@MGA73: The National Archive is part of the Brazilian government, but the only government works explicitly exempt from copyright under the 1998 copyright law as amended up to 2013 are (Art. 8º IV) "the texts of treaties or conventions, laws, decrees, regulations, judicial decisions and other official acts", so I do not think {{PD-BrazilGov}} applies. On the other hand, it was upload to Flickr by the Arquivo Nacional do Brasil as CC Public Domain Mark 1.0, so I think could be tagged as {{Cc-by-1.0}}. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:05, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Looking further, the 1998 law article 112 says copyright terms under Article 42 of the 1973 law are not extended retroactively, but this refers to normal patrimonial rights and does not seem to apply to government works as defined in Art. 46 of the 1973 law. So the first clause in {{PD-BrazilGov}} may be incorrect. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:32, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. I was so focused on the "prior to 1983". I assumed that all works made by the government was PD if it was prior to 1983. And after 1983 it is only PD if it is text etc. --MGA73 (talk) 07:16, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

The 1973 law said that government works were protected for 15 years, so government works made before 1983 would have been in the public domain before the 1998 law came into effect. Copyright laws often have transitional clauses that say works in the public domain stay in the public domain, but the 1998 law does not. It says it is not retroactive for standard Art. 42 works, but does not mention government Art. 46 works. I think we have to assume government works other than decrees etc. went back into protection unless they would have become public domain under Art. 42, 60 years after the author's death. I could well be wrong – the Brazilian law is quite confusing – but {{Cc-by-1.0}} seems safer. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

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Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Pridnestrovie

shouldn't this be merged with Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Transnistria? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: I have simply redirected it to Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Transnistria. Transnistria is the name used on en.wiki, and we have no reason to differ. Our policy with disputed territories (see Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle) is to assume the worst case. That is, the work must be free under the laws of the original country and the breakaway region. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:39, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thx. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:45, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Contacting postal authorities

Hello. I am currently writing a book about my stamp collection which will include over 400 illustrations of postage stamps. Is there a site which gives the addresses of postal authorities, with a view to asking copyright waivers? I have written to two addresses in France, for instance, but to no avail. The most difficult cases are where copyright exists for up to 70 years after the artist's death. How in earth is one supposed to trace the whereabouts of an obscure stamp designer who may or may not be dead?

Comments welcome!

Conor Biggs. Schubertreise26 (talk) 21:25, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

@Schubertreise26: The Universal Postal Union may be a starting point for addresses of postal authorities, but I suspect a lot of them will not know how to deal with your request and will just ignore it. In some countries the law is clear, assigning all rights to the government and releasing them perhaps 50 years after creation. I suppose with those stamps you could just go ahead without formal authorization. Where the designer/artists retains copyright, you are probably safe if the stamp was issued before 1900. Otherwise, I have no idea how to confirm that the stamp is free. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:16, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Schubertreise26: : The simple answer is no. This is a complex topic I have been dealing with for years on both the enwiki and wikimedia commons. There is no one list and even if you do find an address, the people who respond often do not even know their own country's law on the subject. Some will tell you their stamps are copyright when the law is clearly the opposite. The real issue is that it really depends what and how you want to use the stamp images. You may be able to claim fair use but for that you may want to consult an intellectual property lawyer and we cannot offer you any legal advise. These pages Commons:Stamps/Public domain templates and Commons:Stamps/Public domain may help you with some country's copyright status. You mentioned France and in that case the copyright stands until the death of the last of either the designer or the engraver and I worked on an easily readable list that unfortunately Aymatth2 made far less easily readable in its current format Commons:Copyright rules by territory/France#Stamps but you may consider it a starting point. Many countries do not attribute their authors on the stamps like France does. You will find a list of postal administrations on the enwiki List of postal entities with links to many of their websites. You will have to research the issue yourself and it will be a thankless task because many such requests never get a response or they make false copyright claims. I don't envy you, so good luck. Ww2censor (talk) 16:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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Ping me when you need ja pages updated

Hi, I doubt you have not completed ja translation, or you left en text on ja page. I understand you are trying to fill gaps between languages, but for end users, ja translation page needs to be updated in ja language, not in en. That said, if you do not complete translation, let other people take care of it: ping me anytime if you find files needing update in ja: FYI, including myself, whenever the translation source is updated for a particular page already started translation, there are people watching those pages. Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 09:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

@Omotecho: I think Commons:Moving files to Commons/ja is fully translated...

A while ago I worked through all the pages in {{Commons policies and guidelines}}, plus some Help files, migrating them to the new translation structure. The translations should have matched the "master" versions in English, sentence by sentence, but in fact many of the translations had gaps where text from the English version shows through. Commons:Protection policy is an example. Some of the translations are complete. Others, including Commons:Protection policy/ja, are not.

If you care to work through the Japanese versions of the pages in {{Commons policies and guidelines}}, and for each page click on the Translate tab and complete the translation, that would be great! Aymatth2 (talk) 11:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I owe you a lot that you have converted so many pages into new translation structure, and appreciate very much you have taken care of that consuming task. I might not match the contribution you have committed, but be happy to follow your path. Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 12:39, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

South Sudan border

Hello.

Can you add the border of South Sudan in File:Central African Rifts.svg and File:Central African Rifts-fr.svg?

Yours sincerely, Maphobbyist (talk) 15:24, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

I have done it very roughly for File:Central African Rifts.svg, blurring over the disputed border areas. The French version is not used by any other wikis, so maybe can stay as is for now. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:03, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the update. Maphobbyist (talk) 19:11, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

IA books project..

As you may have become aware User:Fæ's got a massive project to try and upload a number of public domain works from IA, and to harmonize these against images from the IA Flikr Commons images, uploaded a few years ago.

Unfortunately as part of this process, some discrepancies between various metadata, dating and copyright licensing statuses have arisen.

Any assistance you are able to provide in analyzing the uploads of this massive project and removing those Commons can't host much appreciated.

More info at User talk:Fæ/IA books.. As noted on this is being done on a shoestring, and more volunteers to help process the material being obtained are needed.

User_talk:Fæ/IA_books#Analysis_categories is where volunteer assistance in analyzing and processing various uploads is needed, If you can help ... ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:50, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Taiwanese FOP Problem-Aftermath

Kai3952 contacted me again regarding the problem of Taiwanese FOP. To determine appropriate actions, I have read through your comments on the HD discussion thread. However, I'm not sure about what is your exact opinion regarding the issue, besides from the factor of de minimis.
I'll be grateful if you can summarize your viewpoint and opinion to me, so that I can explain some more authoritative opinion to the stakeholders, and determine follow-up actions (such as opening a amendment discussion on COM:VPC, etc.). Many, many thanks.廣九直通車 (talk) 12:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

廣九直通車: My interpretation of the law:
- Allows 2-dimensional reproductions (e.g. photographs, drawings, paintings) of 3-dimensional protected works (e.g. buildings, sculptures, ceramics) that are permanently located in public places
- Does not allow 2-dimensional reproductions of 2-dimensional protected works
- An exception may apply to graffiti, which are seen as elements of buildings rather than stand-alone works. However, the graffiti should not be the main subject of the work.
- The de minimis exception would also apply. Case law would help, but a reasonable test is that if the protected work can be masked out of a photograph without loss, then its inclusion is incidental and therefore is allowed. That would not be the case with the photo to the right, even if the same color was chosen for masking as the water in the background.

Hope this helps, Aymatth2 (talk) 15:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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FOP and TOO

Hi Aymatth2. I think you're mixing up the concepts of COM:FOP and COM:TOO in your comment here. I think most experienced editors familiar with the two probably would understand the point you're making, but I'm not sure whether the OP will make the connection. For reference, there actually is a section on FOP in COM:Ethiopia, but there is no section on TOO. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:36, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Oops! My bad. For some reason I typed FoP when I meant TOO. Another reason to avoid acronyms. I have corrected the error. Thanks for pointing it out. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:44, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, as mostly you created COM:Sri Lanka page, you may be interested in this discussion in VPC. We think, that some information needs to be added to COM:Sri Lanka. Ankry (talk) 11:30, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hello: I have corrected the name of the lake File:Gregory_Rift_Topographical-es.svg. Thank you for your warning --NBVC127 (talk) 10:13, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

What does News of the day mean?

Hi, I was just wondering what “News of the day that are mere items of press information.” Under “Works in which no copyright subsists“ on the Commons:Copyright rules by territory/South Africa. Does it mean that press images released in South Africa and are already publicly available through the press can use the “

This image was first published in South Africa and is in the public domain because it is an image of or from:

Official texts of a legislative, administrative or legal nature, or in official translations of such texts.
Political speeches or speeches delivered in the course of legal proceedings. (However, the author of speeches has the exclusive right to create a collection of such speeches.)
News of the day that are mere items of press information.

According to the Copyright Act, 1978 (as amended), § 12 (8) (a), "No copyright shall subsist in official texts of a legislative, administrative or legal nature, or in official translations of such texts; or in speeches of a political nature or in speeches delivered in the course of legal proceedings, or in news of the day that are mere items of press information."

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” license. TapticInfo (talk) 18:21, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

@TapticInfo: . “News of the day that are mere items of press information” refers to text (information) only. The first reporter to publish an article about an event cannot claim copyright and prevent other reporters covering the same event, although they must not copy the first reporter's creative expression. A picture is a creative work, not a "mere item of press information", and would normally be protected. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:30, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Okay, Thanks, thought that applies to other media such as images TapticInfo (talk) 19:47, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

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