Commons talk:Copyright rules by territory/Republic of Artsakh

Why not just fully apply Armenian copyright law here?

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:10, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

• It is messy. Artsakh is a de-facto independent country, with laws based on Armenian laws, but these laws may not have been updated to match changes to Armenian law. Also, there is no international recognition that Artsakh is independent of Azerbaijan. To be on the safe side, we could maybe say that any work from Artsakh must be public domain or freely licensed under the laws of both Azerbaijan and Armenia, including current Armenian law and Armenian law as of 1994. It may be hard to find a reliable independent source that would support that position. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 Artsakh itself will disappear by 2024, having yielded to Azerbaijan. See w:en:Republic of Artsakh#Azerbaijani offensive, exodus and its dissolution. We here in the Philippines do not recognize Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh anyway and treat is as an Azerbaijani region/territory from the beginning (as evidenced in world and Asian maps published here). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:32, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Stamps

Anyone know what the status of stamps from this country is? The article says they "appear" to qualify as "state symbols and signs" but it's not referenced to anything except for the guidelines of other countries, but then it's not clear from the article if Artsakh even implemented the same amendments as them for stamps or really in general. Nor is it even clear that one of the countries of the two, Azerbaijan, even publishes stamps in the public domain to begin with. Adamant1 (talk) 14:18, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Postal laws of Azerbaijan don't define postal stamps, they treat them as forms of payment. Azerbaijan exempts from copyright "monetary signs and other State symbols and official signs". Post of Artsakh works in Armenian language and uses .am internet domain. Artsakh has a constitution [1], but no copyright laws, AFAIK. Armenia does define postal stamps and treats them as official symbols. Materialscientist (talk) 23:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

What to do with this page after 1 January 2024?

@Aymatth2, JWilz12345, Adamant1, and Materialscientist: By this date, Artsakh will no longer exists, the entire Nagorno-Karabakh will be back to Azerbaijan's control. I don't love to make DR, but something shall be modified by this fact. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:07, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 page must be kept for historical reasons. There should be information about the dissolution and the successor law, which is the Azerbaijani copyright law. See COM:Soviet Union. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 06:46, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

That's what I was going to say. Although do we know if there's a successor law in the first place? --Adamant1 (talk) 06:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

I can take a shot at wording it. I would say that if created post-Soviet and before 2024 a work must be free under the laws of both Artsakh and Azerbaijan (precautionary principle). If created after 2023, only the laws of Azerbaijan count. We can probably say that the laws of Armenia can be used as a proxy for the laws of Artsakh. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:48, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Aymatth2 In that case, I would propuse to rename this CRT page back to Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Nagorno-Karabakh. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:56, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

I have taken a shot at updating this page. @Liuxinyu970226: I would prefer not to move it again. "Republic of Artsakh" is the name that the breakaway region used during the period of de facto independence, which is what this page is concerned with. It is sort of academic. Presumably most work created in the republic will be protected until at least 2058. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC)