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Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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Yours sincerely, Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:50, 12 January 2017 (UTC) what you do is completely wrong. the pictures of education programm is fair and the progrmm is in my university and i am the leader of education programm at hashemite university and all pictures of the university are fair. queen rania pictures may be not fair but i took them from university and i dont know that there is websites have there rights. indefenate block is un fair @Tarawneh: can explane--مصعب (talk) 22:58, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:24, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:25, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:27, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronhjones: please remove the infeneteblock. the first block was very very old when i was new user and dont know any thing about commons and its policies and liecencing. regarding some hashemite university pictures i took them from the photographer and he said to me that he is giving me their rights and he want it to become under fair liecencing. i can make the university send email to otrs to prove that. my language is poor. and i want to learn. if you learn me rather than infenite block i can become a good commons user because i have no intension to do vandalism but my knowledg about liecencing is poor in fact so when i dont know the licence i keep it as default--مصعب (talk) 20:32, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronhjones: there is a difference between the picture that i upload and the picture here please notice the difference--مصعب (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:42, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronhjones: there is a difference between the picture that i upload and the picture here please notice the difference--مصعب (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronhjones: there is a difference between the picture that i upload and the picture here please notice the difference--مصعب (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:46, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronhjones: there is a difference between the picture that i upload and the picture here please notice the difference--مصعب (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronhjones: there is a difference between the picture that i upload and the picture here please notice the difference--مصعب (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

They are all the same image with a watermark and much earlier use. Thus the upload at here was not the first published image of the photographs. The watermark would suggest they are owned by the University. If so, they are not "own work" and would need an OTRS ticket for permission. Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:01, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronhjones: you still blocking my so i cant slow down deletion. The photos that i upload does not have watermarks so that means that they are the original pictures. I tell you that the photographer of my university gave me them becuse i am improving the article and the university gave me them to be fair and without copyrights. I can make university send to otrs to prove that but i dont know who must send it the photographer who gave ne them or another person? Please remove block because i told you that i want to learn and the first block was too far old when i was naive user and new visitor to this website it is not fair to do infenite block for very old previous block and some misunderstanding here.---مصعب (talk) 22:25, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason: "i was blocked for a very very old block when i was new user. I want to learn and be aware and fix my mistakes. There is a misunderstanding here. Previeous block should not affect in this mistakes because it was realy very old when i was not awre of any policy or licincing and when i was learning uploading and how it work---22:25, 13 January 2017 (UTC)"
Decline reason: "You said: "I can make university send to otrs to prove that but i dont know who must send it the photographer who gave ne them or another person?" Copyright holder (usually photographer) must send OTRS-permission. After permission has arrived and the files are restored, I am happy to unblock you. Please re-apply unblock after the files are restored. Taivo (talk) 07:51, 14 January 2017 (UTC)"[reply]
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@Taivo: Thanks. I will do in few days. Can you give me the email? Or form to send it to commons?--مصعب (talk) 10:58, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please open COM:OTRS page and look, what kind of permission must be sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. Taivo (talk) 11:00, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Taivo: thank you. I just want to check if this formula that the photographer will send is valid or have to modify something. Please help me to now the best formula to be sent. The formula is following:

To: permissions-commons@wikimedia.org I hereby affirm that I mohammad alomari , the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of both the work depicted and the media as shown here: (all media that i give to User:مصعب about hashemite university before that date or any media puplished befor that date) and have legal authority in my capacity to release the copyright of that work. I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the following free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International. I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work, even in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites. I am aware that the copyright holder always retains ownership of the copyright as well as the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by the copyright holder. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. mohammad alomari [ "Copyright holder"", photographer of hashemite university.)] 14/1/2017

--مصعب (talk) 12:26, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's more-less right. I'm not an OTRS member myself, therefore I'm not totally sure. Taivo (talk) 12:38, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am. OTRS will use the domain in e-mail address to verify the user. Something anon like a gmail address will cause delays. Ideally it will need to be the university e-mail domain. Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:15, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it will be the university domain--مصعب (talk) 16:38, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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Request reason: "the email were sent by the center of media at hashemite university. Please remove the block and restore the pictures that were deleted about the hashemite university and tell me what to put in the licence now because i have another pictures to upload about the university. Best regards--مصعب (talk) 11:24, 15 January 2017 (UTC)"[reply]
Decline reason: "This request does not acknowledge the issue or credibly commit to discontinue the problematic behavior (see COM:BLOCK). Obtaining OTRS permission after the fact does resolve the issue of having uploaded images without adequate evidence of permission, ignoring warnings and a previous block. The claim below that "First of all you blocked me immediately without warning as you claimed" is untrue; you were blocked at 22:39, 12 January 2017, at which time, the phrase "Wikimedia Commons takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing) appeared on your talk page 8 times (!!!), in addition to a personal (i.e., non-template) note advising of the same. That you were previously blocked for this issue is, contrary to your contention ("It is somthing very old and no reason to use it as cause of block now") very much supportive of a new block, as you have had ample warning. If you wish to be unblocked, you will need to identify that you understand and will follow our licensing policies (see COM:L, COM:EVID, et al.) Эlcobbola talk 20:45, 17 January 2017 (UTC)"[reply]
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@Taivo: i do what you request and the email was sent--مصعب (talk) 11:25, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Ronhjones: what is the problem now. The email were sent. You put the reason for blocking me :

Uploading unfree files after warnings

First of all you blocked me immediately without warning as you claimed. Another thing is that i proved by sebding the email that i uoloaded free images that university is giving up its copyrights.---مصعب (talk) 11:39, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dear مصعب, please cool down a bit. we all share the same goals. I just got and answered the email sent to the OTRS. It needs some followup from their side. It was not clear which photos the photographer was talking about. I will be waiting for his feed back. I am even willing to initiate a phone call with the parties needed to close the ticket in an acceptable matter. Thanks. --Tarawneh (talk) 13:52, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(Edit conflict) The warnings (and a block) were in 2014 - they don't "expire", they are on record. The e-mail has arrived Ticket:2017011510004658 and is in the queue for processing. I can confirm the e-mail is as the text above and that it does come from the University domain. USer:Taivo said he was happy for an unblock when the files are restored - I'll let him decide if an unblock can be done sooner. I don't know how this will affect first three images flagged on this page as they are all on other sites which are claiming "All Rights Reserved" with no attribution to the author. Ronhjones  (Talk) 14:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
block for new user is not a valid cause to block now. It is somthing very old and no reason to use it as cause of block now because the situation of different. The pictures of queen rania are tacken inside hashemite university and dr tarawneh saied that he will check what required to restore them. The important point here is the picture of hashemite university must be restored because the email was sent and it clearly mensioned that all pictures of the university before the day of sending the message the university is giving up thier copyright and the message clearly mensioned that the pictures that were uploaded by me the university is giving up their copyrights. So the pictures must be restored and the bolck should be removed.---مصعب (talk) 19:26, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The is no such thing as a "Block for new user" - the block log for the first block clearly says "Uploading unfree files after warnings", which is the same issue as observed with the latest uploads. The restoration will be done when user:Tarawneh is happy with the correspondence to the University. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:43, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

the first block was when i was new useer and dont know any policy here so it is like using very old thing against me. queen rania photos if not restored then tarawneh will contact university for them. but the pictures of university biulding and campus must be restored because the message of university is clearly indicating them----مصعب (talk) 20:09, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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Request reason: "If you wish to be unblocked, you will need to identify that you understand and will follow our licensing policies: that what i do by providing email that clearly saied that university is giving up copyrights of its pictures before the date of sending message and this is a clear response from me to your licincing policy. i have more picture to be uploaded about university which is puplished before the date of the message sent. so please remove the block because i am responsing and the university clearly giving up the rights of images that i upload. you can exclude the 3 pictures of queen rania eventhough the are taken inside university campus but the picture of the university must be restored because the university clearly giving up their rights. the first block was at june 2014 i.e before nearly 3 years and after the block i uploaded many free pictures about education programm at my university"
Unblock reason: "I grant unblock. Reason is stated below. But remember: third block is usually indefinite and now you have been blocked twice. Taivo (talk) 19:22, 21 January 2017 (UTC)"[reply]
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I repeat: "After permission has arrived and the files are restored, I am happy to unblock you. Please re-apply unblock after the files are restored." I mean it seriously: you must not re-apply before the files are restored, but after that. Taivo (talk) 09:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Taivo: thank you. The permission has arrived actually but i dont know what is delaying the restoration of university files. Please read the permession at otrs. Best regards--مصعب (talk) 09:57, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not all admins can read OTRS. user:Tarawneh is still waiting for a reply of his message sent 16/01/2017 13:42:26. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:35, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ticket Closed. Queen Rania Photos are to stay deleted. They where given to Mosab by the University. But the University was not the copyright owner. All other photos are ok, and licensed under cc-by-sa-4.0. They owner name on the files should be "Mohammad Omari". I think the block on مصعب maybe lifted. He should never put his name on photos given to him by others, even if they said it was OK. I guess lesson learned in this case. Ronhjones, Taivo I will restore the files, and Fix the ownership. I think the block should be lifted unless there is some other unresolved issues. --Tarawneh (talk) 19:16, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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