User:Donald Trung/Categories should be multilingual and redirects should be functional/The MediaWiki UploadWizard should utilise redirects

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This page 📃 is an essay on now the MediaWiki Upload Wizard can be improved to make to more “upload-friendly”. The main reason why I wish 🌠 to suggest what is written below is because this issue has irritated me since day one.

Make redirects redirect users 👥 to the correct category[edit]

One major difference between Wikimedia Commons and every other Wikimedia project is that not only are redirects essentially useless, they’re also annoying as [redacted]. Now this wouldn’t as annoying if the MediaWiki Upload Wizard would ignore them… but it doesn’t, nor does it actually warn users about the fact that they just selected a category that directs to another category. However ignoring redirects would create its own problems altogether as the redirect would make more sense or is the same name as its equivalent page in the English Wikipedia so without these redirects many users wouldn’t even be able to find the pages they're looking for. However we don’t want the wizard telling users “you shall not pass”.

So the solution is actually simple, let’s say a user types in “Turkish museums” in the MediaWiki Upload Wizard they should be automatically redirected to “Museums in Turkey”, currently only a bot 🤖 does it but then the files still end up in the redirect category first. Now redirects are very handy if they are utilised correctly, someone typing “Museums of Turkey” might not know that it's “Museums in Turkey”. Now visualise this, the uploader types in “Turkish museums” in the upload form, they press “enter” and suddenly the correct “Museums in Turkey” is selected. This way category redirects could be useful rather than a mere hindrance. This is similar to what Hot-cat does today, it simply adds "the correct" category when a user wrote the redirect.

Notes 📝 (outside of the proposal)[edit]

  • I actually did see something on Wikimedia Commons do this, but I can’t remember where. Hot-cat does it, apparently. 😅
  • The Wikimedia Commons app from Google Play actually has a lot of handy features related to categorisation, taking some cues from the Google Play app might greatly improve the usability of the MediaWiki Upload Wizard 🧙‍♂️.
  • Things as universal as the MediaWiki Upload Wizard 🧙‍♂️ should receive the greatest care 💅🏻 possible as almost every first time editor to Wikimedia Commons just comes here to upload something to Wikimedia Commons to use inside of a Wikipedia. The experience introducing them to this website should be as smooth as possible.
  • Maybe "Y'all shall not pass" is grammatically more correct. 🤔
  • This could also open the gateway to allow multilingual redirects.

Original publication 📤[edit]

Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:02, 13 October 2018 (UTC)