Template talk:Published

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License enforcement request

The {{License enforcement request}} is template to assist you in drafting an email or letter to enforce your copyright. -- Geagea (talk) 22:09, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Template name

The name of this template is unclear and ambiguous. It can be understood rather as a template for the source of the file (which was published before its uploading at Commons) or as a template for the date where was the file firstly published (somethink like {{Taken on}}). Maybe, somethink like "{{Assumed from Commons}}" would be more explicit? Btw, cannot this template be adjusted for all three possibilities, i. e. for publication before Commons uploading as well as for publication past Commons uploading? --ŠJů (talk) 23:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I think we can adjust the introductory wording "This file has been used [by a media organization] in" to cater to the different situations. If you have any suggested wording, propose it here. But why do you think the template should be renamed to {{Assumed from Commons}}? I don't quite understand what "Assumed" is supposed to mean in this context. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 07:32, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Further to Commons:Village pump#Template:Press (used by a media organisation), would it be worth creating a redirect from {{Press}}? -- Trevj (talk) 12:23, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Personnally, I would slightly prefer to have {{Press}}, or something like that as the main name. As published would seem to be a relevant name to mean "originally published" (for example a drawing that was originally published in a newspaper. Currently we have {{Published in}} for that but it amy be a bit confusing. --Zolo (talk) 14:37, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, this needs some careful thought. Our template is the Commons equivalent of en:Template:Published, which is for files. On the other hand, en:Template:Press is for articles. It would be confusing to rename our template "{{Press}}" because we would then have two templates with the same name (one at the English Wikipedia and the other here at the Commons) but different functions. At the end of the day, unless en:Template:Published and en:Template:Press are merged, I think it's best to keep the existing name of the template here. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 17:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

ISO-date?

Hello,
whats about using the ISO-format for the date-variable? Then it should converted if it is displayed, like the {{Information}}-template does. (Sorry for my bad english..)
Best regards, --#Reaper (talk) 18:29, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Poster

I would like that it is possible to use the "Poster" in cite. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 14:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "Poster". Can you explain? — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 16:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

You can use book/journal/web in cite but not "poster" --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 16:16, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I see. While there are templates like {{Cite book}}, {{Cite journal}} and {{Cite web}}, there is no specific {{cite poster}} template. I suggest just treating the poster like a book. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 18:31, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I have done that. But is will better, if posters could be included. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 18:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

What special parameters are required for posters that are not already in {{Cite book}}? I would have thought that you can already use {{Cite book}} parameters such as author, title, publisher and year for posters. That is generally how posters are handled in library catalogues. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 20:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Villy, you can clarify by setting format=poster. - Jmabel ! talk 04:30, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Thx - I have done that here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Agnete_og_Havmanden.jpg --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 11:25, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Commons as a media source

Since this template is advised to use in file talk, the inclusion of Category:Commons as a media source is not very helpful. Does there a way to add that category to the file page if the template is used in file talk? Jee 07:23, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

just add it to the filepage :) ...Sicherlich ^talk 04:24, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

A couple of little things

1. Why does the language end up entirely lower-cased when I type the first letter as upper case?
2. Why are there spaces at the start and end of a quote? Normally there should be no space after “ or before ” (except when you want them as literals, like I do in this question!).

You can see File talk:Seafair Indian Days Pow Wow 2010 - 113.jpg for example on these. - Jmabel ! talk 04:29, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

1. You should enter language code so that it can be internationalized. As all language codes are lower case, {{#language:}} converts all input to lower case. I’ve corrected it in your example.
2. There was a bit mess with named/unnamed parameters. I corrected it in {{Quoted text}} so it should be good for now.

--Tacsipacsi (talk) 15:52, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! "language code" would have been a lot clearer parameter name than "language" if that's what's needed. - Jmabel ! talk 16:04, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Exhibitions

I am missing the option to indicate that a photo is used in an exhibition. Is there another template maybe? Or a workaround to avoid using the parameters journal/book/web? --Tsui (talk) 23:34, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

• Good thought. The en:Nordic Museum (Seattle), for example, uses quite a few images drawn from Commons in its new permanent exhibit. - Jmabel ! talk 22:59, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

"cite" is too limited

Currently, you can use "cite" for book, journal, or web. But what about other occurrences? As people above pointed out, a poster does not fall into these categories. Neither does use in an exhibition. I recently found out one of my photos is being used as wall decoration in a public building. That clearly also doesn't fall into these categories. It would be great if the template could be used for these purposes. -- Spinal83 (talk) 10:08, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

agreed, this would be good for linked data when that almost certainly comes to this template, as reusers are likely to be other than author, editor, or publisher. Arlo James Barnes 16:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Derivative works?

Could we have a way to indicate that a derivative work has failed to comply with share-alike? It seems that the image is usually reused unmodified, but not always; here's a use case (a National Geographic infographic including an apparently hand-sketch-look-filtered photo). HLHJ (talk) 02:04, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

• @HLHJ: legal=no and a note that explains the issue. - Jmabel ! talk 03:32, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Jmabel, done. I was thinking that the legal issue is a bit different; the derivative work is technically under the copyleft, too... Maybe a derivative=yes param? HLHJ (talk) 05:31, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Use on file description page

Hello. I've recently started using this template, and I think its nice to keep track of usages. But why exactly is it not allowed on the main description page? It not only gives better visibility, but also shows potential external users that there will be a red X on their usage, if they don't license properly (not that they really care anyway). Thoughts? Rehman 11:02, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

I feel it’s better having it “out of the way”, on the talk page. I don’t have any objective arguments for this feeling, though. What certain is that we should do it one way or the other, not both, so if the consensus is to have it on the file page, all file talk usages should be moved to the file page (probably using a bot). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 17:39, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

It is not about the image itself, and won't be of interest to the vast majority of people who come to the page to see the image or learn about it. - Jmabel ! talk 18:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

How many projects?

This template allows editors to indicate that a Commons file has been used in up to five non-Wikipedia projects. (emphasis added)

It looks like it should be “ten”. Brianjd (talk) 14:04, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Too many parameters

This template is far too complicated. Image a scenario where someone sees that a Commons file has been resused online, and they want to document that use so the file creator can takenpride in know his work is being used. And then to make note of that use, we have to use this behemoth of a template. Perhaps a simplified version can be made from it? Senator2029 08:40, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Use {{Published |cite=web |legal=unclear |title=Foobar |url=https://example.com}}, with the relevant title and URL.

Renders as:

This file has been used in: Foobar.

What could be simpler? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:44, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

So just fill in those parameters if that's what you've got.

You can add that case near the top of the documentation, if you like. - Jmabel ! talk 17:49, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Language

If I add, for example, |language=nl, this renders as "(in nl)" (emboldening in original).

This should be rendered as "(in Dutch)", and similarly for other languages.

Presumably, we already have code for this in a module somewhere? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:39, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Publisher not showing

|publisher=BBC is not showing, in the first entry on File talk:Robert Gillmor 2010-03-23.jpg. I cannot determine why. Can anyone help, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:08, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

• @Pigsonthewing: Fixed. You can only use the "publisher" field once, but you can distinguish "publisher1" and "publisher3". - Jmabel ! talk 17:53, 26 June 2023 (UTC)