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MBTA map updates[edit]

Hey, Pi! So, recently the MBTA has announced that starting this summer, they will be expanding service to Hyannis, via the Middleboro/Lakeville Line. As such, could you update the following images: File:Mbta district.svg, and File:MBTA Commuter Rail Map.svg. This image provides a good baseline for a route, although I am am unsure if any stations other than Hyannis will be used. I have heard of Buzzards Bay being used, so I would vouch for that. Other than that, if you could help update those, that would be great! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:44, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the Wikipedia page for the new service, just so you know. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I've been keeping tabs on it. I'm debating about adding the service and I probably won't just yet. It's still up in the air whether it'll be an MBTA service or a CCRTA service tacked onto T trains, and the station stops are inconsistent between sources. When it gets to late May and the questions are fully resolved, I'll work on it then. (I expect to be doing further modification with the Fairmount Line stops opening one by one, and hints that Springfield-Greenfield service may be in the works.)Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:02, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks for your help! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 16:17, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any way that you could add Middleboro/Lakeville to this map? Thanks! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:10, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm tentatively leaving it off for now. The official site only shows Hyannis and Buzzards Bay. I personally suspect Middleboro/Lakeville, Brockton, and maybe Braintree will be on revenue trains (and possibly some of the other Cape Cod stops once the service gets going) but information on those is conflicting. I'm keeping tabs so I'll modify it when additional information becomes available. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:30, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Silverliner category[edit]

Just to give you my thinking on Category:GE Silverliner IV, I was looking toward a future where the Silverliners might be sold off and operated by some entity other than SEPTA; that is a situation where there isn't a one-to-one relationship between Category:GE Silverliner IV and Category:SEPTA electric multiple units. See also Category:GE P30CH locomotives, which started as a sub-category of Category:Amtrak diesel locomotives but had to be refactored to include the SP-leased units. Anyway, that was my reasoning for keeping the two distinct. Mackensen (talk) 01:15, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that makes sense, though unless it happens I'll keep the neatened combined category. I feel it's unlikely that we'll see them sold off, though; SEPTA's MUs are designed to deal with both the ex-PRR and ex-Reading catenary. Metro-North won't touch them because they don't have third rail shoes, NJT has shiny new equipment, and MARC run loco-hauled only. In any case, I think it's reasonable to keep the combined category until/unless anyone else acquires some. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:26, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In case you're still watching: I just found out that the East Corridor project will use EMUs based on the Silverliner V design. I'm waiting to see actual production cars (at least a few months to years down the line) before I call the category one way or the other since the local name may be different. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:34, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CapeFLYER[edit]

I just saw the photos from Buzzards Bay, and they look awesome! I almost went over to Hyannis today to snap some photos, but then I realized that it might be better to wait until all the hubbub has died down, since people might be swarming around the trains. Regardless, I know what I will be doing next weekend, and thanks for your contributions! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:07, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I've got a whole load to upload; the train included BTC-1C, BTC-4A, and BTC-4C coaches which will let me fill in the table on MBTA Commuter Rail. I can't wait to see your shots! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:10, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I also just discovered this video, which is a computer-spoken version of the article, and it's quite awesome! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:28, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and would you be able to update the other maps so that they reflect having the CapeFLYER service added? Thanks! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:35, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming MBTA categories[edit]

I see you're hard at work ;). Any objection to renaming the MBTA diesel categories to match? I was thinking Category:EMD F40PH locomotives of the MBTA and so on. Mackensen (talk) 01:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, so I got a little bored, and the next thing I know I've done 300 edits in 48 hours. Occupational hazards, I suppose. That sounds like a fine plan; I made those MBTA categories before I saw that there was a precedent in the opposite direction. I'm not sure how soon I'll get around to the commuter locomotives that don't overlap with Amtrak, but you're welcome to go ahead. I don't use any of the automated category tools, so if you're familiar with them you might be able to do the job far quicker than I will.
My first instinct would be to go with Category:EMD F40PH locomotives of MBTA per Category:Rolling stock of MBTA, but that's totally a judgement call and it's probably fine either way. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:04, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. I don't think there's any guideline on using the definite article. I used it when I created Category:GE P30CH locomotives of the Southern Pacific, but only because it sounds better. Mackensen (talk) 02:07, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image updates[edit]

Hey, would you be able to update this, this, and this image, since they don't show CapeFLYER service? I would do it, but I don't have the necessary map skills for it. Thanks! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:08, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've been debating it, and honestly, I don't think at this points that those maps should show the CapeFLYER. While two of them do show the Foxboro service, that's explicitly an MBTA service. CapeFLYER is a CCRTA service that uses MBTA equipment and trackage; it's being branded as its own service rather than as an MBTA service like the Patriots trains are. If you've got convincing arguments I'll certainly be able to do it, though. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, but maybe we could use the green line and denote it on the map, or a green and purple line. I mean, the equipment and the stations are being used (and branded down on my end, if they have labeled Buzzards Bay as such). The thing is, there is a train going there, and it is being advertised all over the place, so it would be good to add them to maps, considering we already have the CapeFLYER map in MBTA purple. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:36, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know, this category exists if you are looking for some photos of MBTA things in place and up close. I'll properly tag them in the coming days, but I figured you might be interested in some of this, since I'm sure something can be used somewhere. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it turns out that I am exceptionally bored at work today, so I did some categorization. I wasn't able to read the numbers off a couple of the bilevels, though, so some of the generic BTC-4s might need recategorized. Those are some great shots, though. I had no idea CCCR had an old MARC car.
I've been looking at the maps a bit. The stylized map shouldn't be too hard to add the CapeFLYER to, and my lines-only map shouldn't be too hard either. However, I don't know if I'll add it to File:Mbta district.svg. That map is one hell of a kludge; it was created with an odd projection that makes adding anything difficult, and due to the unnecessary detail of the town shapes it's a clunky 5+ MB. I was actually unable to add mere outlines of the surrounding states when I tried. Given that barring miracles the soonest new full-time service we'll see is Wachusett in 2014, Kingston around 2015-2016, and Buzzards Bay probably not earlier than next year, I may just wait till spring when I'm planning to take a GIS course. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 14:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I actually took photos of their numbers, so I could send those along if you'd like me to. In terms of CCCR stock, a lot of it can be tied to their early years, when they operated as a quasi-boneyard or sorts. You might actually enjoy the other photos on that site, as MBTA cars made appearances on the Cape early on as well, from the looks of it. Maps are fun though, and I completely understand where you are coming from there, and that is why I don't usually do the work, and almost always ask someone else to do it for me! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 18:28, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Boston[edit]

Just so you know. -- Tuválkin ✉ 01:23, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I saw in the page history. Thanks for the comments, but I prefer to form my own opinions about a user whenever possible. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:13, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Lydney railway station MMB 03.jpg[edit]

While the overall look is better, your version introduced a fair amount of overexposure. Could you try again? -mattbuck (Talk) 07:01, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure; on second look I notice how washed out the clouds became. That was mostly an experiment to see if I could fix the weird issue you had with lighting; usually I won't overwrite an image unless it is substantially improved, but I gave it a shot since you'd noted the issue. If I'm not able to produce something to your satisfaction, feel free to revert to the original.
By the way, I've happened across several of your images while sorting HDR images. You've taken some very impressive shots. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 14:01, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Viewliners[edit]

I'm planning to divide up the Viewliner category into the following subcategories:

Now obviously we only have pictures of the last of these (so far) but the other three types are building and the prototype diner is running around the system. I'm kicking myself for all that because I've actually eaten in it a couple times but didn't have the presence of mind to take pictures. Does this make sense to you? Mackensen (talk) 13:40, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. I wouldn't bother creating the other 3 categories until we have pictures, but go ahead and make the sleeping car category. You've been doing some great work in the last few days, by the way - those decade categories are something I meant to do. They may justify year-by-year categories, honestly.
If you have spare time, you could sort the old Amtrak diesel locomotives and passenger cars (and make a category for Amtrak freight cars). A lot of the old diesels may be difficult to keep separate, but I think you have a better hand on identification that I do. Cheers! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 14:08, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. My intention was to "complete" (as best as possible) the decade categories and then see if yearly categories were justified. I think we'd need 200+ in a decade category before that was necessary. Mackensen (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Both the 2000s and 2010s have enough images to justify reduction. I suppose they should be named Category:Amtrak in 2013 and such? I think that maps to the conventions. Mackensen (talk) 13:43, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that looks good. I'll sort a few when I have time. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:42, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The 1970s can probably get divided up as well. Do watch out for ones like this where the user specified the upload date as the image date - I've been confused by them a few times myself. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:52, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
2010s are done except for sorting the special trains (particular the Feather River excursions). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:46, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That raises a question; what exactly belongs in Category:Amtrak special trains? Right now it's a bit of a mishmash: actual Amtrak-operated specials like the 1977 Steam Transcontinental, charters like the Feather River Express where Amtrak provided the power (essentially all of Drew's stuff), and non-revenue moves like the new ODOT Talgos going to Seattle. Mackensen (talk) 03:28, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bump. Thoughts on this? Mackensen (talk) 01:20, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Anything that's not scheduled service, regular equipment moves, or deadheads should go there. Perhaps subcategories like Category:Amtrak equipment deliveries (which will hopefully get some ACS-64s in it!) and Category:Charter trains with Amtrak locomotives might be appropriate? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:38, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I did actually photograph an ACS-64 at Race Street earlier this month when I took the Autumn Express charter (File:ACS-64 at Race Street Yard.jpg). Not a great shot. I like your second suggestion and will implement it. I have to say I love Drew's photos but they've been a headache to properly categorize. Speaking of deliveries, you should be getting some MPI HSP46s on the territory soon, yes? Mackensen (talk) 13:14, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I saw the ACS-64 shot. I'm hoping someone will be able to catch a shot of one being moved on the long-distance trains as well; I'm planning to grab shots at New London in December. I've actually seen the first unit of the new locomotives; unfortunately it's been sitting at 42°22′30″N 71°04′30″W / 42.374964°N 71.075116°W / 42.374964; -71.075116 where it is literally impossible to photograph except possibly from a passing Lowell Line train. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 17:56, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Amtrak Illini at Carbondale.jpg[edit]

Interesting quandary; looking at Flickr it appears the author withdrew the CC-BY-2.0 license at some point after I uploaded the smaller version. Absent some other proof we probably can't use the larger version as it was never verified as CC-BY-2.0. Mackensen (talk) 23:42, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, good catch. Just self-reverted that and the other Carbondale image. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:48, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Rahway-njt.jpg[edit]

I'm not sure what process you followed but the image's original EXIF data got clobbered when you corrected the colors. Mackensen (talk) 18:55, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, yeah, that was an experimental one before I knew how to use Luminance very well. I just uploaded a new version with corrected EXIF. If you spot any more of those - mine or others - let me know and I'll fix them. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:05, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Adminship[edit]

Have you considered running the gauntlet yet? TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 04:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've debated it. Right now I don't necessarily have the time to be a good admin; that may change in a month or two. Honestly I'd rather upload my backlog of pictures, rather than wield the mop. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Assembly Square site aerial September 2012[edit]

Just thought I'd let you know that I used your picture to start an article about the w:Amelia Earhart Dam.--agr (talk) 13:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, cool, that's great! I may have others from when I've photographed Assembly Square construction. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:52, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Further overcategorization?[edit]

I've pondered bringing the British system of categorization (cf Template:Ukt) to US trains, where practical. Given File:Acela Regional in Boston South Station.jpg, that would produce the following additional categories:

For File:Amtrak -30 "Capitol Limited" (5952119221).jpg, you'd add these:

I could see doing this for freight locomotives as well, and would be useful given how frequently old liveries persist under new ownership. Your thoughts? Mackensen (talk) 17:06, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I don't see much merit to that; the way the US system is organized means that you don't have many competing companies on the same stretch of track, and liveries stay more constant. There might be some benefit for for freight with the blended liveries, but except for a few cases (Amtrak Rainbow era, Conrail era in the Northeast, and the intentionally anachronistic New Haven livery on SLE) passenger livery stays pretty much within the company.
What I would support is a template to automate the various categories that all rail transport images should get:
  • [month] [year] in [state] or [year] in [state]
  • [rolling stock] of [operator]
  • Photographs taken on [year]-[month]-[day]
  • [year] in rail transport in the United States
Category:Amtrak in XXXX and similar cats would have to be supported (I'm planning to do that for the MBTA, and NYCS has enough material to do that as well), but that's a pretty simple switch to set up. Having this template would make it a lot easier to get all those useful categories all in one go, rather than having to do cleanup later. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:31, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's easy enough. Have a look at User:Mackensen/UST. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 21:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

the caption says 2013[edit]

The image's caption says "Construction of South Acton station in November 2013, viewed from the Massachusetts Route 27 overpass east of the station. In this view, the platforms are largely in place, but the pedestrian bridge, canopies, and ramps have not been finished." If you're sure that this was taken in 2014 and not 2013 then your revert is correct. Monopoly31121993 (talk) 21:33, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that makes sense. I messed up on the caption; the correct date is 2014. When in doubt, or if the image filename, title, and date don't all agree, check the EXIF data at the bottom of the page. All cell phones and most modern cameras set the date automatically, so the EXIF data is a pretty reliable way to figure it out. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, will do.
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