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轻语者 (talk) 15:02, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to discuss any aspect of the deletion request as it does not have merit under the copy-write provisions of Wikipedia unless I have misunderstood the rules. These particular photos are free for use by anyone who would like to use them, they have been supplied for use by Brindabella and they were subsequently used in several promotions in the past two years. Firstly in general College material, then in MBA Awards material, then in LEA Awards material, then in Brindabella Architectural contractor marketing material and also Bus advertising material through Go Transit. So the deletions should not occur. This also goes for File:BCC Junior School Wing-2.jpg & File:BCC Junior School Wing-3.jpg

On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:29, 1 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-EaglesOn-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:29, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

That may all be true, none of that is close to sufficient for a free license. Commons:Licensing is the policy. The actual owner of the original has to asssert that they permanently release the image for essentially any use by anyone. A free license that includes redistribution, modification, and commerercial use, without any ability to control who uses it how, is very different from hosting an image and using it themselves in a way that others can see it. DMacks (talk) 05:06, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

I am the owner of the original - so what are you saying?

On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:28, 1 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-EaglesOn-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:28, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

File:BCC Junior School Wing-2.jpg

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DMacks (talk) 03:59, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to discuss any aspect of the deletion request as it does not have merit under the copy-write provisions of Wikipedia unless I have misunderstood the rules. These particular photos are free for use by anyone who would like to use them, they have been supplied for use by Brindabella and they were subsequently used in several promotions in the past two years. Firstly in general College material, then in MBA Awards material, then in LEA Awards material, then in Brindabella Architectural contractor marketing material and also Bus advertising material through Go Transit. So the deletions should not occur. This also goes for File:BCC Junior School Wing-2.jpg & File:BCC Junior School Wing-3.jpg

On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:29, 1 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-EaglesOn-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:29, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

That may all be true, none of that is close to sufficient for a free license. Commons:Licensing is the policy. The actual owner of the original has to asssert that they permanently release the image for essentially any use by anyone. A free license that includes redistribution, modification, and commerercial use, without any ability to control who uses it how, is very different from hosting an image and using it themselves in a way that others can see it. DMacks (talk) 05:06, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

I am the owner of the original - so what are you saying?

On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:28, 1 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-EaglesOn-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:28, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, DMacks (talk) 04:04, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to discuss any aspect of the deletion request as it does not have merit under the copy-write provisions of Wikipedia unless I have misunderstood the rules. These particular photos are free for use by anyone who would like to use them, they have been supplied for use by Brindabella and they were subsequently used in several promotions in the past two years. Firstly in general College material, then in MBA Awards material, then in LEA Awards material, then in Brindabella Architectural contractor marketing material and also Bus advertising material through Go Transit. So the deletions should not occur. This also goes for File:BCC Junior School Wing-2.jpg & File:BCC Junior School Wing-3.jpg

On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:29, 1 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-EaglesOn-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:29, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

That may all be true, none of that is close to sufficient for a free license. Commons:Licensing is the policy. The actual owner of the original has to asssert that they permanently release the image for essentially any use by anyone. A free license that includes redistribution, modification, and commerercial use, without any ability to control who uses it how, is very different from hosting an image and using it themselves in a way that others can see it. DMacks (talk) 05:06, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

I am the owner of the original - so what are you saying?

On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:28, 1 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-EaglesOn-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 11:28, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 13:45, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I own and created this image, there is no copywrite over it and I fully allow its use in wikipedia. It is also about to go on 5 x full bus wraps.

On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 13:55, 1 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-EaglesOn-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 13:55, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 22:15, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not recreate deleted content

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--Patrick Rogel (talk) 22:16, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Patrick I am getting used to your system of operation. I am not sure why the new content is being deleted, I own the material including the recreated images. I received no response to my previous comments about ownership, so I recreated the content. If this requires an undelete request, sorry for the inconvenience, I will do that. Regards & God Bless, Greg

On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 22:22, 1 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-EaglesOn-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 22:22, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The undelete process allows for "You may want to discuss with the administrator who deleted the file. You can ask the administrator for a detailed explanation or show evidence to support undeletion". I now ask you provide detailed explanation of why you are deleting File:BCC Gravity-40 years given I own the raw content and created the image and freely allow its use in Wikipedia?

On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 22:27, 1 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-EaglesOn-The-Wings-Of-Eagles (talk) 22:27, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:BCC Junior School Wing-7.jpg

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 00:06, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Patrick,

I have been through this with the other images, we own them copywrite free from the photographer as they were shot for me to use, they are not pulled from the web, I gave the Peppermint Room permission via our photographer for the Peppermint Room use the image, they may have paid for it directly for specific use of the image as he dealt with them directly and I had no objection, the Peppermint Room absolutely do not "own" the image. 124.171.209.52 09:25, 4 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-0Of-Eagles124.171.209.52 09:25, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We are "we"? The copyright is most often hold by a single person, the photographer. Since your declarations about ownership have been contradictory so far (you claimed "having created and owning the original" AND that images "have been supplied for use by Brindabella") I beg you to have the photographer(s) sending quickly a permission via COM:OTRS and, in the meantime, stop uploading until the case is solved. Yours, --Patrick Rogel (talk) 09:59, 4 December 2019 (UTC).[reply]

To explain we, I am the Board Chair and shareholder of the organisation that owns the images and they were done for me, that is the we, I will happily have the "actual" photographer deal with the release on COM:OTRS but it will be tomorrow as we are at 9.00pm here. All good as there is no intentional contradictions.

124.171.209.52 10:06, 4 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles124.171.209.52 10:06, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PS The "create" refers to any edits to the images of which there are some and in the case of the disputed Photoshop image it is "me" in photoshop which is why the "I", and the component images are then the we, but we as the company own the component images as well. Hope that makes sense. Anyway the COM:OTRS will be done as well so there is no confusion 124.171.209.52 10:38, 4 December 2019 (UTC)On-The-Wings-Of-Eagles124.171.209.52 10:38, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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