User talk:MargaretRDonald

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adding species

MargaretRDonald (talk) 04:30, 3 January 2018 (UTC) A frustrating process with many species descriptions in Wikipedia not talking to the categories of wikispecies. Thus, my entry for Bryan Alwyn Barlow in wikispecies cannot be referenced in wikipedia. The entry for Muellerina eucalyptoides in Wikipedia cannot utilise the categories of wikispecies (which allow the capacity to see authorship), and the species described in wikispecies do not talk to those in wikipedia, and vice versa. Or am I missing some neat little trick?? Hoping for some advice.....

Categorisation

Hello Margaret, thanks for all your uploads! As a suggestion, there's no point in categorising photos into large categories like "Plantae" as this is obviously a gigantic category which is hard to sort through. It's also not worth categorising a photo of a mistletoe species as a "parasitic plant"-all mistletoe photos are in a subcategory of this already, as far as I know. Just keep it simple and give your photos the category of their species or genus, and if the category isn't established yet don't worry, just give them that category anyway and ask me, I'll be happy to create a category for you. I've done that for Dendrophthoe glabrescens just now. (But it's quite simple-all you have to do is go the blank page and put in the category of the larger family it's in.)

I don't know whether or not you have professional qualifications in botany, but in any case it's often a good idea to document in the caption how you know what species a photo is of if possible. Blythwood (talk) 17:43, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello Margaret, please do not overcategorize your photos! (example). Just use the most detailed category, e.g. Category:Korthalsella rubra and Category:Atalaya hemiglauca. The species categories are already subcategories of the genus, which are a subcategories of the family, and so on. Only if there is not yet a species category, use should use the genus category. Cheers, --Thiotrix (talk) 09:45, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Thiotrix. Very helpful (and will use up less of my time..) MargaretRDonald (talk) 17:45, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

plantsoftheworldonline.org

Hello Margaret,
I discovered you contribution on Scaevola.
In many templates source= is for a limited list of web sites (You can see the list HERE).
Instead you can always use ref=[http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/?q=Scaevola plantsoftheworldonline.org].
But this website seems intersting, so I added it in the list of managed sources.
So if you look again at Category:Scaevola you will see that plantsoftheworldonline is now a link to the Scaevola page.
BestRegards Liné1 (talk) 08:58, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks so much, Liné1. MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:52, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Distribution maps

Hi - thanks for contribution distribution maps of organisms. Could you possibly place them into subcategories of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Distributional_maps_of_organisms rather than into https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Distributional_maps, so they aren't confused with e.g. maps of age of consent in different countries, etc. Thanks! HYanWong (talk) 09:48, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

If you know a neat way of doing this for the hundreds of maps I have already contributed, I would be most grateful. But I am happy to categorise all future maps as you wish, Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk)!

@HYanWong: I am currently working on finding my many species maps and recategorising them. Slow work, though. MargaretRDonald (talk) 17:28, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

@MargaretRDonald: Apologies about the slow reply - I'm not very active here. Thanks for any recategorizing you can do. HYanWong (talk) 11:14, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Regarding these, File:Macrozamia riedlei Dist Map21.png show the occurrence in NSW for a WA endemic species. Not wrong I suppose, but I'm assuming that someone may demur at including it as a range map (me this time). I'm assuming that it shows a specimen, living or otherwise, in a the state's herbarium? Has this come up before? cygnis insignis 00:49, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Cygnis insignis: . They are occurrence maps and at this point they show all occurrences whether cultivated or not (although I have looked for an appropriate field.) I simply hope that people will recognise them for what they are. In the meantime the text of an article is something of a correction... MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:56, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

I moved it to cultivation, although that only shows Australia. Do you mean the article provides context? Do you think something like 'specimen records' will cover what we are showing? cygnis insignis 01:09, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Cygnis insignis: . (Just wondering What you have moved to "cultivation".) The majority of the records are uncultivated and show the native range. The outliers are always dubious!! "Occurrence data" is the usage of both GBIF and of AVH so I don't believe "occurrence data" needs to be changed to 'specimen records', though this is indeed what they are. (But by all means go ahead and change to "specimen records" if you wish.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:20, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

The map was moved to cultivation, but poking around I see there is specimen records from Au institutions included. I applied a filter 'human observation' to produce this. Maybe that is what we want for the usual concept of a range map. cygnis insignis 01:26, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Cygnis insignis: Thanks for letting me know. I don't think the move is appropriate at all. These are not records of cultivation. MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:31, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

This is why I'm asking. I expect that readers would assume it was something like the one at https://florabase.dpaw.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/85 The records of "preserved specimens" are included, unless you filtered them out, they are not 'dubious outlier' records. cygnis insignis 01:40, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Any outlier is dubious. They are indeed true specimens of the species. They are "dubious" in the sense that the geographic data are clearly outliers, which makes them dubious in representing the native range. MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

We can put aside the word outlier for a moment, I must be failing to communicate something effectively. I'm now asserting that the records in NSW are of preserved specimens in a herbarium. Do you wish me to take the time to prove that? If a range map includes any record, including specimens preserved or cultivated, then it needs to be a world map; I've never seen the range map field used in this way. cygnis insignis 02:15, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Of course not, what you assert has never been in doubt.!!!!!. They were collected in NSW by one of the contributing herbaria. That has never been in doubt. Howeever, as a result of this discussion I have now used the field "establishmentMeans" in the download (given in the description page for the image file) and excluded all AVH records for which this field is empty, "cultivated" or "unknown". This produces a new range map with the same name, and the range map now includes only WA records. MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:25, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Margaret, "collected in NSW", this is making my head spin. My intention was to introduce some new material, instead I am negotiating this matter because the article needs to be stable for the DYK proposal. I presume the preserved specimen was collected where it only occurred for millennia, SWA not NSW, any other source would be from a cultivated specimen; it is an endemic species of SWA according to sources and the maps do not accord with any published map. Please ping me somewhere when this is resolved with a third opinion, I'll be working on another article. cygnis insignis 03:35, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. The data giving the current range map (check it out) are attested by professional botanists working from the contributing herbaria. I have used the data (and GBIF uses AVH) and now excluded records where the specimens were cultivated and those for which the establishment means were not known (i.e., only records in the native range are now shown). These data give the graph shown. If you downloaded the data tomorrow (or in six months time) as opposed to the day on which they were downloaded, the map would be essentially the same: a few additional points will make no difference to the crudity of the map. (There is no reason why this article should not be stable, if you are content to accept the methodology - with which as a statistician, I fail to see a problem.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 07:00, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

I can only suppose that what you know about statistics has complicated the terminology and your interpretation of the source, but also note you have invested a lot in uploading and adding this content with might be indiscriminate data selection; I have less invested if I am wrong and the article gets corrected. The salient point, from the pov of 'range' and 'distribution' (ecology), is where the collection was made. Like an outlier in statistics, they can sometimes be accounted for; these are physical objects and not abstractions of data. There is a reason why the datum point exists, not because it was found in an isolated population there, but because that is where the specimen is placed. Herbaria have collections, workers make collections, locations are identified on collections. What I think may be wrong, the article will be improved, if you were incorrect there is some back-tracking to do with uploads (and someone annoyed at the equivocation). cygnis insignis 08:08, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

I have made NO interpretation of the data. I have mapped the points as given in the DOIs. On the other hand "outlier" is a statistical term and in the original map, the non-native NSW points are clearly spatial outliers.... The data are a fact of life, and we simply have to live with them. MargaretRDonald (talk) 10:22, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

I mildly resent what you have implied about my position in the course of this, perhaps a result of similar resentment to my objections; I'm not sure this was avoidable as I take an obstinate position on my interpretation of policy. One of these reasons for this is avoiding OR, which you rightly pointed out was needed to eliminate the data that "I did NOT like"; I never thought the map could be used at all and the data selection is a result of continued commitment to your investment in content creation. What I do like is properly sourced information, such as that produced by statisticians or a worker at FloraBase, not selection of data, which is not the business of wikipedia editors (our avocation, not profession). While not as simple as using AVH to generate a map, source + map + paint = distribution map only involves a couple of steps I discovered. The other option was to disassociate myself from the content that would appear on the front page, which would be problematic considering my commitment and investment in the content. I also did not like that data directly contradicted properly sourced information in the article, and that your tendentious position was that those datum points were facts and that was my tough luck. I see one uncritical endorsement of these maps in a drive-by comment elsewhere, and one other query on the content they contain; please seek a broader consensus for these. cygnis insignis 06:24, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

I have been trying to seek a consensus, by using the talk page of Macrozamia riedlei and the talk page of Cas Liber. And I have been very careful to engage with you respectfully. On the other hand, I note that you have now replaced the map on Macrozamia riedlei without using the talk page to justify your failure to use all the data available to you, that is, the data from herbaria other than PERTH. Your action in ignoring data requires justification and an appropriate place for it would surely be the talk page of Macrozamia riedlei. (It is perfectly appropriate for you to look at each of the points you have rejected in making your map and say why you believe they are invalid. And this is what I believe you should do). MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:54, 30 December 2018 (UTC) (not sure what a drive-by comment is: could you please explain? Also how is it tendentious to accept that datum points are facts? I don't understand. I was not implying that it was your tough luck at all. Simply that they were data and have to be accounted for. I am sorry that you took offence at what I thought was a simple statement of fact....) MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:54, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Why do you have to try to be respectful? Do you have some other evidence of me doing what I am accused of, what I regard as amongst the most serious allegation you could make of another editor? You presented that accusation to an admin, the response was that they had noticed the same thing about AVH maps. The only endorsement was a 'drive-by comment' from an editor who glanced at a map on the half million pages he watches and said the equivalent of 'a picture, very nice, dear'. I would prefer that you either withdraw the accusation, seek a consensus that I am wrong, or avoid crossing my path with your tendentious engagement. cygnis insignis 03:19, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

There is NO indiscriminate data selection on my part: I have not used ALA but AVH as you would see if you checked the DOI, and AVH data consists ONLY of identifications by professional botanists and records from the contributing herbaria. (Hardly indiscriminate data) I had religiously NOT eliminated points in order to faithfully reflect the data source, until you were unhappy with points lying in NSW. However, it probably is APPROPRIATE to eliminate points where the establishmentMeans field is empty or takes the value "unknown" or "cultivated". Yet this too results in a map you are unhappy with.... MargaretRDonald (talk) 10:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Map 1.

Map 2.

Map 3.

Range map for Macrozamia riedlei

Different range maps are used in the following two versions of the article Macrozamia riedlei: Macrozamia riedlei (oldid=875850228) the map of which is shown in Map 1., and Macrozamia riedlei (oldid=875873175) the map of which is shown in Map 2.

These two maps differ significantly: The first uses the downloaded data from The Australasian Virtual Herbarium – Occurrence data for Macrozamia riedlei, downloaded via the doi:10.26197/5c2736e141e89, a download and a map which contains details of all the specimens of Macrozamia riedlei held in Australasian herbaria The second derives from the map in FloraBase for Macrozamia riedlei with the referenced map being based on specimens from the PERTH herbarium only.

Both maps derive from well respected reference sources, but they show slightly different things, with the referenced map from FloraBase using a subset of the Australasian Virtual Herbarium data. The maps differ significantly, and their differences need to be resolved before one map is preferred to the other.

Data Quality Variables

The data download (doi:10.26197/5c2736e141e89) from the AVH map included all the AVH curated data quality variables. The following variables were checked for all data with spatial coordinates: coordinates are out of range for species, Cultivated / escapee, Habitat incorrect for species, Suspected outlier. (Apparently) no specimen record failed these tests. However, despite downloading the AVH data quality variables, the variable, DETECTED_OUTLIER_JACKKNIFE was not downloaded (but may or may not be visible on inspection of the record using the map), and it was found that all the easterly points (listed below) failed this test for a moisture index.

Comparisons with stated IHRA regions and subregions given in FloraBase

The following table was found by clicking on the easternmost West Austalian points in The Australasian Virtual Herbarium – Occurrence data for Macrozamia riedlei Note that they all occur in the Esperance Plains IBRA region, a region in which they are said to be found in the FloraBase for Macrozamia riedlei. (Note that the article for Esperance Plains shows agricultural land lying between these apparent easternmost outliers and the points in its westerly parts. Each of these points has been detected as an outlier based on a moisture index (CSIRO Ecosystem Sciences) using a reverse jackknife algorithm (Atlas of Living Australia).

Data taken from The Australasian Virtual Herbarium – Occurrence data for Macrozamia riedlei
Institution	Specimen Record	Collector	Date	IBRA region	IBRA subregion	Outlier
AD	AD 173457	A.E. Orchard	1/10/1968	Esperance Plains	Recherche	Yes
AD	AD 173456	A.E. Orchard	1/10/1968	Esperance Plains	Recherche	Yes
AD	AD 9653045	R.H. Kuchel	11/10/1964	Esperance Plains	Recherche	Yes
AD	AD 96951032	E.N.S. Jackson	19/09/1968	Esperance Plains	Recherche	Yes
MEL	MEL 1558252A	A.N. Rodd	19/09/1968	Esperance Plains	Recherche	Yes

The second table gives a summary of the data which had spatial coordinates, and where specimens were collected in Australia (from The Australasian Virtual Herbarium – Occurrence data for Macrozamia riedlei)

Summary of Australian Data taken from The Australasian Virtual Herbarium – Occurrence data for Macrozamia riedlei
Institution	Number of Records	Cumulative Number
AD	9	9
CANB	134	143
HO	2	145
MEL	10	155
NSW	38	193
PERTH	192	385

Thus we can see that a map made from only PERTH data, neglects the information given by a further 193 specimens held by other Australasian herbaria. Map 3. shows just what we have missed. The blue points in Map 3 show records held by CANB (the Centre for Australian National Biodiversity Research), and show that the range appears to be slightly more northerly than the range shown in Map 2. Scientists who exclude data without giving reasons are rightly castigated.

Reasons should be given here, too, for a decision made which excludes half the data. (The NSW points shown in Map 3. should be excluded because these are outside the native range as given by FloraBase and other sources.)

The description in FloraBase for Macrozamia riedlei gives the IBRA Regions: Esperance Plains, Jarrah Forest, Swan Coastal Plain, Warren; the IBRA Subregions: Fitzgerald, Northern Jarrah Forest, Perth, Southern Jarrah Forest, Warren; and Local Government Areas (LGAs): Albany, Armadale, Augusta-Margaret River, Beverley, Boddington, Boyup Brook, Bridgetown-Greenbushes, Busselton, Capel, Collie, Cranbrook, Denmark, Donnybrook-Balingup, Gosnells, Harvey, Kalamunda, Mandurah, Manjimup, Mundaring, Murray, Nannup, Northam, Plantagenet, Serpentine-Jarrahdale, Swan, Toodyay, Wandering, Waroona, West Arthur, Williams, York.

Using the capacity to select parts of the AVH map, together with its capacity to filter on IBRA regions and subregions, the easterlymost points in the Esperance Plains IBRA region are found to be in the Recherche subregion, which is not listed in the Florabase description.

The two most northerly points MEL 0033468A and CBG 9711554.1 are in the Lesueur Sandplain IBRA subregion, which is not listed in the FloraBase description. However, all the points excluded from Map 2 and included in Map 1 belong to IBRA regions listed in the FloraBase description. It remains unclear whether the most northerly and most easterly points are excluded from the FloraBase description because only PERTH data were used in making that description, or are excluded by intent.

Data taken from The Australasian Virtual Herbarium – Occurrence data for Macrozamia riedlei (Some northernmost points)
Institution	Specimen Record	Collector	Date	IBRA region	IBRA subregion	Outlier
CANB	CANB 637023.2	D.L. Jones	5/10/1991	Jarrah Forest	Northern Jarrah Forest	Yes
CANB	CANB 637023.4	D.L. Jones	5/10/1991	Jarrah Forest	Northern Jarrah Forest	(tested?)
MEL	MEL 0033468A	R.B. Filson	2/09/1966	Geraldton Sandplains	Lesueur Sandplain	(tested?)
CBG	CBG 9711554.1	D.L. Jones	3/10/1993	Geraldton Sandplains	Lesueur Sandplain	Yes
AD	AD 96629038	N.N. Donner	2/10/1965	Swan Coastal Plain	Dandaragan Plateau	(tested?)

Conclusions

Map 2. is probably to be preferred since the jackknife tests on a moisture variables how the most easterly points of Map 1. are outliers, and that some of the more northerly points of Map 1 are also outliers. The fact that a point is marked as a detected outlier may be insufficient for its exclusion: a competent botanist would need to check the specimens themselves. Map 1 contains points which are not in the IBRA subregions listed by Florabase but this is irrelevant to the argument since the subregions listed were based on PERTH specimens only. Therefore it remains unclear whether Map 2 is to be preferred. MargaretRDonald (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Archive of your Flickr photos

Your photos have been archived at https://archive.org/details/Flickr-user-13639096_N06 by emijrp. It's not the most interactive format, but preservation and browsability are now ensured for those who know you. Thank you, Nemo 06:12, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Thamks, @Nemo bis: Do you mean the photos already transferred from Flickr to commons. (And what about any future transfers?) Does a bot go around regularly archiving Flickr photos?? MargaretRDonald (talk) 18:32, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

File:Dark Gully Park.jpg

could you find a better name, like the art of that plant or where it is realy? best --LutzBruno (talk) 09:15, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Is it not possible to delete it? MargaretRDonald (talk) 10:26, 11 March 2019 (UTC

It would, if you provited uploaded a file without permission... for example...--LutzBruno (talk) 14:54, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Species categories

Hi Margaret - just to mention, species categories (e.g. Category:Araucaria columnaris) have a Taxonavigation template, not an infobox: please don't add the latter. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 20:11, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@MPF: Thanks for this. Hoping that you will point me to the consensus on this issue. (I believe it to be useful in that it can show contradictions between wikidata and the taxonavigation, which is useful for correcting/checking wikidata.) In the meantime I will cool my enthusiasm for infoboxes. Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! It is buried somewhere in the archives, I can't find where unfortunately. Maybe @Liné1: will know. I did find some mention on User talk:Frettiebot though, which you can have a check through in the meantime. Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 23:27, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello Margaret, you can find further discussions to this topic at Commons talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Wikidata Infobox and taxons. Cheers, --Thiotrix (talk) 07:32, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks. Very scary. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:36, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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Aquatic Acacias (the rest)

Here are seven more maps for your consideration. That was fun :) --Tagishsimon (talk) 19:02, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

• File:Acacia orariaDistMap657.png CANB 544384.1 is on a small coral cay in the Torres Strait, but is cultivated. CANB 358194.1 is cultivated on Ambon. DNA D0169451W Timor University Nusa Cendana 9.7 km from Kupang. (On University campus therefor have removed this too as cultivated but record does not say so) All three points removed.
• File:Acacia montanaDistMap607.png PERTH 944947 was found 15 km SE of Bundarra towards Armidale. Coordinates are therefore wrong.
• File:Acacia mangiumDistMap575.png NSW 107492 Daintree, at Daintree River Ferry, south bank, SE Cape York Peninsula. Coordinates wrong therefore should be deleted. However, this Acacia is found in Indonesia and Papua New Guinea and all around that general area. Therefore map needs to be redrawn. See Occurrence data
• File:Acacia mangiumDistMap574.png
• File:Acacia maideniiDistMap573.png NSW 514622 collected in Eidsvold QLD. Co-ords therefore wrong.
• File:Acacia maideniiDistMap572.png
• File:Acacia falcataDistMap347.png PERTH 944939 also collected 15 km SE of Bundarra towards Armidale. Clearly the data entry person at Perth was having a bad day.

@Tagishsimon: See comments above.. Thanks yet again. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Love your maps, how can I make my own?

Hey thank you so much for the species distribution maps you work on. They add a lot of important context and background information to species. I was wondering if you could share a bit about how you produce these maps. You mentioned your data source was GBIF, but what programs do you use to generate them? I'd like to make my own GBIF distribution maps using WWF Ecozones as the borders instead of political borders — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tr3ndyBEAR (talk • contribs) 22:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC) Tr3ndyBEAR (talk) 22:15, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

I use SAS but R also provides mapping programs (which I have used, but which are or are not supported depending on the R version you are using) ( have a friend who produces her maps using QGIS. See, Category:Distribution maps uploaded by Stitchingbushwalker. If it is of any use to you I could send you sas code.... (And like you, I find occurrence data immensely informative.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi MargaretRDonald, I stumbled across one of your maps today (Parsonsia straminea Dist Map36.png) and was immediately impressed with the insight that it brings to an article. I am going to try making my own as well, but as a Linux user I prefer to use FOSS software and so I'll try out QGIS. Are there any other tips you could share with us? — Junglenut (talk) 11:01, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hi MargaretRDonald, not sure if you are aware of COM:OVERCAT, but images like File:Australian pelicans (Pelecanus conspicillatus) on Lake Richmond, Rockingham Lakes Regional Park, May 2021 03.jpg should not be in Category:Rockingham Lakes Regional Park ass they already are in Category:Pelecanus conspicillatus of Lake Richmond, which is a subcategory of Category:Lake Richmond, Western Australia, which, in turn, is a subcategory of Rockingham Lakes Regional Park and therefore fall under overcategoisation. Great work by the way in weeding out the eligible from the ineligible images in the Category:Images from Wiki Loves Earth 2021 in Australia‎. Hard, thanklessness work, but noticed and appreciated by those who look. By the way, have you noticed that the images removed from the category still seem to show up in the prejury voting? I voted last night and saw quite a few that were already removed but still showed up for voting. Calistemon (talk) 08:45, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me about categorisation,@Calistemon: . I believe the Germans may now have fixed the problem where excluded photos show up in the Prejury tool. But I need to check this. (Let me know if you are continuing to have problems.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:27, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

I think the prejury tool is now working properly... MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Just did some voting and yes, all images that cam up are still in the category, also File:Hungry Pelicans Waiting For Their Daily Feeding.png probably shouldn't be, doesn't seem to qualify as a protected area. Calistemon (talk) 12:54, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, @Calistemon: When I just checked File:Hungry Pelicans Waiting For Their Daily Feeding.png it was in both the competition category and the outside competition category. If it comes up again for you tomorrow, let me know. (Sorry about this. Teething problems.). MargaretRDonald (talk) 13:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

What to do with images from User:ArtyCartiSash in Wiki Loves Earth 2021 in Australia

What do you recon should be done with images from User:ArtyCartiSash in Wiki Loves Earth 2021 in Australia? They all have a watermark saying they are copyrighted (see File:Dusky Sea Poster, St Kilda Beach Water’s Edge, Archival Print Poster, (102.41cm x 76.81cm).jpg for an example). While it is plausible that uploader has taken these photos and is indeed the copyright holder, proof of such is missing. I have nominated them for deletion, if permission is not forthcoming or the deletion is contested, these will be deleted in seven days. Should they remain in the competition at this stage? Calistemon (talk) 23:47, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that @Calistemon: . These images are marked with a copyright symbol and hence (as you say) need proof of ownership. (And they are certainly not eligible for the competition, being watermarked.) So thank you for your action. MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Margaret, please don't remove the licence template from images, as you did with this edit, as it results in the image being eventually deleted. Calistemon (talk) 06:45, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

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@Enyavar: You are quite wrongon this one. The map was created via programming and does not contain proprietary data. MargaretRDonald (talk) 17:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Margaret, just wondering whether your recently created Category:Political cartoons about Australia isn't a duplication of the long-standing Category:Political cartoons of Australia? The later seems to follow the naming convention at Category:Political cartoons by country. Please have a look and see whether there is any merit in having two such categories or not. If not, we can just redirect Category:Political cartoons about Australia and recategorise the images in it. Calistemon (talk) 04:07, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

@Calistemon: I wanted to include English cartoons with Australian content, or indeed, cartoons originating anywhere or from anyone, where the subject matter is Australian, and the "of" didn't seem to make that clear. MargaretRDonald (talk) 04:16, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

No worries, maybe a hatnote would help to clarify how these categories are different and what images should be in which? Calistemon (talk) 04:19, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

@Calistemon: I decided you were right, and created a redirect for the category. Thanks for taking a look. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:05, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Cheers, I think it is the less confusing choice. Calistemon (talk) 10:27, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

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