User talk:Kreuz und quer

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Quakerism

Thank you for the many contributions re. quakerism! --MHM (talk) 09:00, 5 April 2022 (UTC) (Swiss Friend from Geneva)

thank you and a BARNSTAR .. nice work .. a small little place, for my backyard.....

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		......A barnstar for you ..all them politicans and the people who take the money for the historic district..all the downtown. nobody codes this ... thank you.. .*

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:McIntire_Historic_District

McIntire Historic District is names after, Samuel McIntire an American architect and craftsman

this little bit of code is nice !!! thanks !!! — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 186.69.189.65 (talk) 17:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Smooth stones from the Atlantic Ocean at the McIntire Historic District on Chestnut Street. Samuel McIntire an American architect and craftsman

— Preceding unsigned comment was added by 186.69.189.65 (talk) 17:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Category question

I'm sure it was not your intent to replace an existing category with one that does not exist. Are you planning to create the new one, or is something else going on? - Jmabel ! talk 04:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Good catch -- I was going to create the new one but changed my mind and forgot to correct it. Fixed now. Thanks! - Kreuz und quer (talk) 04:21, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Category:Independence_Day_(United_States)_outside_the_United_States

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A1Cafel (talk) 08:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Category:Dutch_colonization_in_Asia

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JopkeB (talk) 13:45, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Category:Abendpost, Vol. 12

I didn't put each volume like Category:Abendpost, Vol. 12 into Chicago by year because there is a separate Category:Abendpost, 1900. I think the volume split up not entirely by calendar year. It seems duplicative at Category:1900 in Chicago now? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:04, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

I first sawe the 'by volume' category and my first question was what year, so I investigated it and added it, because I'm sure others will have the same question. That said, the volume is split up by year, so having both Abendpost by year and Abendpost by volume categories is redundant/duplicative -- there's no need to have both categories. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 01:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Ships in the Oresund

Please note that the article you added in Category:Ships in the Oresund is not used in neither English, nor Danish or Swedish. The correct category name is actually Ships in Oresund. Hjart (talk) 20:18, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

As an English speaker, I have always used and seen the definite article used when Oresund is alone, i.e. "the Oresund." Such usage sounds natural and parallels the English translation "the Sound." It appears in many (the majority?) of sources, including academic works (examplesː article title [1], book (chapter 10) [2], article in book [3]). That said, I see a couple of examples without the article as well, so I think it's fine if the article version becomes a redirect instead. Regardless, ideally article usage in category names should be consistent. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 01:11, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok. To me as a native Danish speaker "the Oresund" appears outright weird. Also please note that throughout en:Øresund the name Øresund is almost exclusively used without article. It is mentioned that in English it's commonly known as "the Sound". Note that this is when leaving out the "Øre". Hjart (talk) 07:04, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

OVERCAT

Please be more careful. Had to revert several of your edits because you are overcatting them. Famartin (talk) 00:01, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. For the most part the overcatting is done consciously -- I do it when I can't decide which category it would be best to use, so I use both with the hope that someone else will come in and remove the cat they think is less relevant, which I'm happy to see you did here. Other times it happens less deliberately when I'm working on organizing and potentially adding/replacing categories, but occasionally I forget to go back and fix them. Regardless, I will try to keep my overcatting in check. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 00:17, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realize that state border signs were categorized under welcome signs -- I think of them as two separate things -- so that's my bad. Thank you for the corrections and the note. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 00:19, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Category:1650 in the United Kingdom

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R'n'B (talk) 16:35, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Ebey's Landing National Historical Reserve

I think this is wrong, but maybe you know something I don't know. My reasoning: the Ebey's Landing National Historical Reserve is a rather large area (78.24 km²). The only part of it that is a ferry landing, to my knowledge is the Keystone ferry terminal (which I see was not previously a subcat of the Reserve; I've fixed that). So unless there is something going on that I'm missing, you'll probably want to revert that. - Jmabel ! talk 23:14, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

There is also a mess among Category:Ferry landings, Category:Ferry ports, and Category:Ferry terminals; I'm going to try to use CfD to get some clarity of intent there. - Jmabel ! talk 23:15, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/12/Category:Ferry ports. - Jmabel ! talk 23:28, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the edits to Keystone ferry terminal -- that's really the connection I wanted to highlight, so I agree with position and have removed Category:Ferry landings from Category:Ebey's Landing National Historical Reserve.

As for the other categories, I agree that the hierarchy needs to be sorted out -- thank you for opening up a new CfD thread for that. --Kreuz und quer (talk) 01:54, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm glad we're in general agreement here. - Jmabel ! talk 04:37, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

redlinks

You might want to look through your contributions of the last day or two for non-existent categories you've added to photos. I fixed four of them, but I'm sure there are more. - Jmabel ! talk 16:30, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks but I'm in the middle of working on adding those category pages; I just got interrupted during the process yesterday. Kreuz und quer (talk) 22:21, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Date for File:Jambalaya 1975 On Strike NOPSI Carrollton Car Barn.jpg

Hello. How did you find out the correct date for File:Jambalaya 1975 On Strike NOPSI Carrollton Car Barn.jpg? Do you have any more information? Thank you. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 03:05, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Pending your response, I have restored the date range, as from what I have seen the strike action went on both years, and I saw nothing in the publication to pin it down more specifically. Thank you. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 03:12, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

"Factory"

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Marathon_Anacortes_Refinery&diff=prev&oldid=728790654 : I wouldn't usually call an oil refinery a factory, and unless I'm missing something Category:Oil refineries is not a descendant of Category:Factories, so it would seem I'm not alone in that. I think your earlier choice of "Economy of..." was better, mind if I revert to that? - Jmabel ! talk 02:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

You're right, thanks for pointing that out. I just bumped up the category a step to "Industry buildings," which "Refineries" is a descendant of, so I believe that should fix the issue. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 02:44, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Hey, thanks for helping me with the categorization of some categories I left in Book pages. I’m gonna pay more attention to it from now on. Sorry for anything! RodRabelo7 (talk) 09:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Categorization

You are categorizing school districts covering multiple municipalities incorrectly. You should place the municipality within the district category, not the other way around. The reason for this is because these school districts cover areas which contain multiple municipalities, which means they should be subcategories of the school district. Famartin (talk) 20:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

• @Famartin: are the municipalities in question all entirely within the respective school districts, or do they simply overlap? If they are entirely within, I agree with you; otherwise, the other way around is more intuitive, because it is more common for one municipality to have multiple school districts than vice versa. - Jmabel ! talk 21:22, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

@User:Famartin Can you give me an example of where I've done this so I can see how it's done correctly for the future? To be honest, I don't recall having categorized many school districts at all. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 21:46, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

@Kreuz und quer: and @Jmabel: See Category:Abington School District and Category:Upper Perkiomen School District Famartin (talk) 22:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Established in two different years?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AMuseum_of_the_American_Revolution&diff=740548489&oldid=740547872&diffmode=source Makes no sense to me. - Jmabel ! talk 02:02, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

The organization was established in 2000. The museum opened its doors in 2017 (in a renovated building constructed a few decades earlier). -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 02:09, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Then the latter is not an (organizational) establishment. If there were a category about it being in the particular building, that date would be useful, but here it's merely confusing. - Jmabel ! talk 15:11, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Only one category refers to the organization (Category:Organizations established in 2000); the other doesn't (Category:2017 establishments in the United States). I don't think it's confusing and there are plenty of other examples with similar category patterns, such as two "built in" categories when one part of the building was built in one year and another part of the building was built in another year. Life is rarely as straightforward as we'd like. Technically you could spin the nonprofit organization off into its own category, but at this point it would be nonsensical to do so. Regardless, the more important date is 2017, so if you want to insist on only one of the categories, that would be the one to keep. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 22:15, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

So are you saying this category is for the building? Then why is Category:George Washington's Marquee (tent) a subcat? It looks to me like the replica of that shown in some of these photos is somewhere else entirely. Is it now at the museum? - Jmabel ! talk 00:24, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Or if we are conflating the two, wouldn't some subcat of Category:Built in 2017 make more sense than a subcat of Category:2017 establishments? - Jmabel ! talk 00:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

No, not the building alone, the museum. What is a museum? It's the union of a museum organiation united and a building; without a building, a museum would just be an organization; without an organization, a museum isn't a museum, it's just a building. The building was built in the 1960s; the museum organization was established in 2000; the museum opened in 2017. It's not that confusing and to be honest it's not worth this much discussion. I've removed the organization category so there's just the one establishment category. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 00:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

George Washington's Marquee (tent) is in the museum's collection. I created a new category for the collection so that this will be clearer. If you want to create a separate category for the replica, feel free to do so. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 00:43, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Please do understand, I wasn't quibbling, I was genuinely confused. - Jmabel ! talk 02:17, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Personification

Good day. I reverted this edit of yours. Explanation: Caricatures of a country are not necessarily personifications of that country; in fact frequently are not at all. A personification *represents* a country, for example John Bull or Britannia for the UK, Uncle Sam or Bald Eagle for the United States. A caricature can represent any person (politician, actor, writer etc), usually in exaggerated or cartoon style form. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:31, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 20:44, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Category:Surnames from Belgium

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You specifically created Category:Surnames from Germany which is related. --Ricky81682 (talk) 07:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. The purpose of that category is to parallel existing related categories. If those related categories are being removed/renamed/etc., I have no problem with the same thing happening to this category. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 15:00, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Juneteenth commemorates an 1865 event

... so this is off by two. Figured you'd want to know in case you've made other similar edits related to Juneteenth. - Jmabel ! talk 06:45, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Fair, thank you for the correction. I did reverse the edit on one specific file, File:Juneteenth_Celebration_program,_1980_(49998870952).jpg, however, because that event program specifically says that it commemorates (erroneously or not), the 117th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation (1863). But you're correct that it's a mistake to apply that date to other Juneteenth events. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 14:45, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Nikolaus Ludwig von Zinzendorf

Liebe(r) Kreuz und quer, die Commons-Cat c:Category:Alumni of Universität Halle (Saale) ist für Zinzendorf wohl ein bischen unglücklich gewählt. Zinzendorf hat 1716 bis 1719 in Wittenberg studiert und war vorher in den Franckeschen Stiftungen in Halle. Beides hat aber nicht mit der Universität Halle zu tun. Die Universität Wittenberg war damals sächsisch und wurde 1813 durch Napoleon geschlossen. Erst nach dem Wiener Kongress wurde Wittenberg preußisch. Parallel zur älteren Wittenberger Universität gab es von 1694 an in Brandenburg/Preußen die Friedrichs-Universität Halle. Erst 1817 wurden die beiden nun preßischen Universitäten "vereinigt", obwohl es lange Zeit in Wittenberg nichts mehr gab. Erst später wurde die Leucorea in Wittenberg als Ableger der Uni Halle-Wittenberg neu geründet. Hier sollte vielleicht bis 1813 aufgeteilt werden in die Alumni der Wittenberger Uni und die Alumni der Uni Halle. --PaulT (talk) 14:54, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Danke schön für die Erklärung. Mir war auch etwas verwirrt, aber Category:University of Halle-Wittenberg wurde automatisch in die Commons-Cat Category:Universität Halle (Saale) umgeleitet; ich überlegte mich nicht lang daran. Weil das Thema so kompliziert ist, habe ich einfach Category:Alumni of Universität Halle (Saale) von Zinzendorf entfernt. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 15:12, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Danke auch; war mir schon klar, wie das passiert ist. Vielleicht sollte unter Leucorea eine Untercat Alumni oder Absolventen der Leucorea angelegt werden. Dort würde er rein passen; und ich denke, das wäre auch für viele andere Personen nützlich, die bis 1813 in Wittenberg studiert haben. Vor der Gründung der Uni Halle in Brandenburg/Preußen war Wittenberg ja nahezu die einzige Alternative für Reformierte alller Art. --PaulT (talk) 17:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Comment

For awhile I thought you were following me around (just kidding), as you are always adding to categories I started. We must be interested in many of the same topics so thank you for doing what you do. Krok6kola (talk) 16:38, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Haha, sorry about that -- I can assure you, I don't pay much attention to user names, so any overlap is entirely coincidental. If you do see me intruding into a space that you're currently working on and you would like me to stop, please don't hesitate to let me know. I tend to bounce around a lot in terms of subjects, so I'm happy to move along to another one if I'm interfering with any of your projects. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 16:42, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Books from Scotland by year

Hi und danke für das Beleben dieser Kategorie. Selbst habe ich mich vor allem um die Bücher aus London gekümmert, aber da gibt es noch immer einige CfDs. Vielleicht magst du ja auch deinen Senf dazu geben: Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2023/04/Category:Books_published_in_London_by_year; Commons:Categories for discussion/2023/04/Category:Books from Great Britain by year und Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/06/Category:Books from the United Kingdom by year. --Enyavar (talk) 13:28, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Category:1955_calendars

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Category:Litton-Ingalls_Shipbuilding

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Cryptic-waveform (talk) 20:57, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

File:John Antes's 1759 violin.png

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File:John Antes Silhouette.png

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Wiki Loves Monuments in the United States 2023

Hello! In 2021, you contributed to Wiki Loves Monuments in the United States. Thanks to people like you, it was a great success with over 500 people contributing over 5,500 photos of cultural and historic sites from all over the country. Hundreds of these photos now help illustrate Wikipedia articles, improving our open knowledge about United States history, culture, and heritage. You can see the top-ten winners of the US competition here.

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Stamp of Kazakhstan 460.jpg

Lunar New Year 2004 on stamps truely, Zodiac correspods with Lunar, not Solar calender? Albedo (talk) 15:29, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, of course. So I'm not sure I understand -- what is the problem? Kreuz und quer (talk) 23:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

I tought that is erroneous Albedo (talk) 15:38, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

What part is erroneous? Category:Lunar New Year 2004 on stamps? There's no contradiction in designating the Lunar New Year with the common Gregorian era year and it is frequently done -- see Category:Lunar New Year by year for more. Besides, the stamp itself has "2004" on it.... Kreuz und quer (talk) 15:48, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Just so you know

Easy mistake to make, but still a mistake. DS (talk) 13:34, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Ooh, good catch, thank you! The photo of John Boucher threw me off. Thanks for the correction! -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 13:40, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Bridge signs in Germany?

Hallo, du hast meinem Bild File:Hackerbrücke, Munkeno, nokta foto.jpeg die Kategorie Category:Bridge signs in Germany zugeordnet / you added Category:Bridge signs in Germany to my picture File:Hackerbrücke, Munkeno, nokta foto.jpeg.

Ich sehe nur drei Zeichen auf dem Bild: Warnung vor Glätte (slippery road), Eis-/Schnee-Warnung (ice, snow warning), Höhenbegrenzung 3,3 m (limited height). Welches davon ist ein „bridge sign“? Oder gibt es noch ein Schild, das ich nicht sehe? Danke -- Renardo la vulpo (talk) 13:09, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Signs in North Carolina counties

Did you see that I added material in two of the "Signs in XXX County, North Carolina" categories you created? There should be road sign subcats for those, as well as the others. --DanTD (talk) 11:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

NRHP

Just a note: Category:National Register of Historic Places is different from Category:Historic American Buildings Survey (HABs). I appreciate your hard work with categories. Krok6kola (talk) 01:21, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Categories

I know you generally do things right but here you seem to have removed categories that exist and added one that doesn't. - Jmabel ! talk 03:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

You are too quick! It was in another open tab; I just hadn't gotten to it yet. I've been letting myself wander to whatever piques my interest today so I got distracted by something else in the meantime, but don't worry, I keep it in a tab so I don't forget. In any case, fixed now, thanks :) -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 04:06, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Maritime_objects

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JopkeB (talk) 13:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Pica

Hi, thanks for this edit! I wouldn't get too worried about categorising things this way except for pica rules. The traditional font size naming system used the word "pica" in the names of some sizes but not others very arbitrarily. As an example: a modern 24 point type used to be called "two lines pica" and could be classified into this category, a modern 36 point type would be called "two lines great primer", and wouldn't. But it doesn't really tell you about any meaningful difference, because they're both old metal types numbered using the same traditional system, which had "pica" in the names of some sizes but not others. If you're interested in metal type you're more likely to be looking at categorisation by design or by foundry. I don't think there's much need to put things into the category except possibly rulers and measuring devices. Blythwood (talk) 10:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Puerto_Rico_in_the_1500s

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Why this overcat?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Lunar_New_Year_in_Seattle_2020_-_Oolleemm_troupe,_Korean_folk_dance_09.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=850590484: the file is/was already in Category:Chinese New Year 2020 in Seattle, four steps down the hierarchy from Category:Lunar New Year 2020. Why add the latter category? - Jmabel ! talk 22:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Because the image is of Korean New Year, not Chinese New Year, so it's one step too far into the category tree but the correct category (Lunar New Year 2020 in Seattle) doesn't exist at the moment and I'm not yet ready to create it. I don't want to separate this photo from other related photos in the set, nor do I want to remove the connection to Lunar New Year 2020 in Seattle, yet, so the extra and seemingly redundant tag serves two purposes: 1) a notification to others that there are more relevant images in that category that are currently miscategorized, and 2) a reminder to myself (or anyone else working on these categories) that this set of images needs to be looked at and recategorized when the proper tree set is created. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 23:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Date at end of category name, despite ancestor categories with date at beginning?

For example,

• Category:Buildings in the United States photographed in 2020
• Category:Buildings in the United States photographed in the 2020s

Now you've chosen Category:21st-century photographs of buildings in the United States? -- DanielPenfield (talk) 16:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm just creating container categories. I didn't choose the order, that's just how similar previously existing categories were named -- see Category:Architectural photographs by date. If you have issues with it, you'll have to take it up with the creators of those categories. IF you want to change all of them to make them more consistent, I have no issues with that. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 16:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Drop boxes

Hi Kreuz, with regards to edits like this: As far as I understand the topic, drop boxes are a special type of ballot boxes, not the other way around. So instead, of placing drop boxes above ballot boxes, they should be categorized below the ballot box category. Best, --Enyavar (talk) 05:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

No, drop box is a general term for receptacles where you drop something off for someone else to pick up. See the main Category:Drop boxes, as well as the Cambridge Dictionary definition [4],for example. So all ballot boxes are drop boxes, but not all drop boxes are ballot boxes -- some are book return drop boxes, letter boxes, etc. -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 09:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for doubting you here: en:Ballot box makes a distinction between ballot box and ballot drop box just like I described it. When I vote in the "old fashion" i.e. in person at the ballot office, my ballot is not "dropped for pickup later", it's just thrown into the ballot box and gets counted soon afterwards, ideally that very night. The Cambridge Dictioniory doesn't mention ballot drop boxes at all; and the Category "Drop boxes" doesn't indicate anything, besides someone dropping the ballot box category in it in 2022. --Enyavar (talk) 21:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Sure, there are different kinds of ballot boxes -- old fashioned document-type boxes and more modern ballot drop boxes. I'd argue that the they're all a form of dropbox (even the old-fashioned ones, be sure you are in fact placing it in there for someone else to pull out at a later time, just like a mail/letter box), but if you wanted to create Category:Ballot drop boxes as a subcategory of Category:Drop boxes and Category:Ballot boxes, I'd have no problem with that. But is definitely not a subcat of Category:Drop boxes -- many, many drop boxes have nothing to do with ballots! -- Kreuz und quer (talk) 21:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)