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Arkiv av brukerdiskusjonen til user:kjetil r juni 2006 – juli 2006

Image:Schema sous-marin.jpg[edit]

I don't understand what I have to do for this image not to be deleted. It's the second time a deletion warning is inserted. I am the author of this work and each time I released it under : "own work, all rights released (public domain)".

As for Image:Saar45.jpg, this image is on Israeli wikipedia, therefore I don't understant why it should not be on the French wikipedia.

Thanks for your answer. --New Dog 07:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi New Dog. You should insert {{Pd-self}} into Image:Schema sous-marin.jpg, if you want to release all rights. Then it should be ok.
Regarding Image:Saar45.jpg: this image is discussed here. It was not I that wanted to delete your image, but user:Hashekemist. I just noticed that nobody had told you that the image was requested for deletion, so i therefore put the warning in you talk page. Kjetil_r 15:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Dutch notepad screenshot winxp.png[edit]

I see you added a template for that image. Other screenshots that I uploaded earlier weren't tagged like that (for example, Image:Dutch wordpad screenshot winxp.png; would they have to be deleted as well (judged on a case by case basis)? The Dutch Wikipedia doesn't allow fair use images and if Commons doesn't either, it wouldn't be possible to have a screenshot of Notepad and WordPad on Wikipedias that don't allow fair use images? :/ - Simeon87 14:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It will unfortunatly not be possible to have screenshots of Microsoft Windows software or any other proprietary software unless the Wikipedia allows fair use. Kjetil_r 14:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll remove the images from the articles then. - Simeon87 15:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your wrongful deletion of the screenshots...[edit]

In America where Microsoft is headquartered there is no law preventing screenshots of Windows from being reproduced for illustrative and instructional purposes. Such publication is in fact common for creators of Window software operator tests such as are performed by temporary office workers seeking employment in a field that requires knowledge and use of any Windows product. Just in case your wrongful deletion was inspirited by a mistranslation of English or of American copyright law or simply a misunderstanding of the of the target being addressed by the phrase "no redistribution" you need to understand that this statement doe not apply to screenshots but rather to an executable program that is created by submission of the user's source code to the compiler. Since these images have already served their purpose in the discussion and can be sent by email to anyone who has a question they do not need to be restored although your understanding of the law needs to be updated. shutterbug 15:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is not American law, but Commons policy. Please see Commons:Licensing#Screenshots. Kjetil_r 21:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you delete the image?[edit]

Image:Miratülmemalik.JPG has been deleted by you.Why . Because it has no lisening problem.--3210 20:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because it seems to be a book cover, and thus a copyright violation. Are you the designer of this book cover? Kjetil_r 20:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

COM:DEL[edit]

Hello, if someone makes a wrong request, it's always a good idea to mention what they should have done instead. Otherwise it can be hard for them to knoew (and hopefully other people reading it will learn something too). BTW do you know about User:Orgullobot/Welcome log? You are 100% more than welcome to help out there. Thanks, pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also are you on the commons-l mailing list? It's not very high volume and frequently interesting (discussing a new tool to automatically back up some deletions at the moment) pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I will try to remember to mention the correct procedure, it is not always easy to know for newbies.
Actually, I started subscribing to the mailing list yesterday (I should have done this a long time ago). Kjetil_r 17:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request about Norwegian sculptures[edit]

Hej. Jag hoppas det går bra att jag skriver på svenska.

Skulle du kunna hålla ett öga på norska skulpturer och nominera dem för radering som bör raderas? Allt, om upphovsmannen dog för mindre än 70 år sedan.

Det finns säkert många sådana, men jag är inte så bekant med hur det norska kategoriseringssystemet ser ut.

/ Fred Chess 00:10, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hei Fred. Det går helt fint at du skriver på svensk.
Jeg kan ta og lete opp norske skulpturer i morgen, det er mange skulpturer her som må bort. Jeg skal også ha øynene åpne i tiden fremover. Hilsen Kjetil_r 00:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Utmärkt!
Fred Chess 22:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

world cup[edit]

Thanks for updating the 2006 world cup map! I noticed that User:Xhandler made a couple of his own versions, and seemed to misunderstand that the squares were supposed to be for host nations - see Image:2006 world cup v3.png and Image:2002 world cup v2.png --Astrokey44 07:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did not really update it, User:Akral did. He was not able to upload it, and asked for assistance at Commons:Help desk. Kjetil_r 08:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

delete[edit]

KingLouis-Philippe.jp[edit]

Image deletion warning KingLouis-Philippe.jp has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this image, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. If the file is up for deletion because it has been superseded by a superior derivative of your work, consider the notion that although the file may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new file.
In all cases, please do not take the deletion request personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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by Carolus 00:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC); there is has been a better quality image uploadet. greetings from Belgium.[reply]

thanks for your quick reaction, i think this is a great solution, good night (going to sleep). Carolus 00:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:NewYork Statua di Dante.jpg[edit]

Hi,
just got your message that says:

Image:NewYork Statua di Dante.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the content

The file specifies author: Marco Bonavoglia; and the license as GFDL; what's wrong with that? what else do you need? Always thought that was enough or should I clearly state that I'm the same Marco Bonavoglia as the Marco Bonavoglia author of the photo? --Marco Bonavoglia 09:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I mean “the author” as in “the artist creating the statue”. Unless the sculptor has been dead for 70 years, one may not photograph his works and put a free license on it. Do you know the name or the death date of the sculptor? Kjetil_r 12:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
!! ok this I don't know and I'll check out. But I thought that photographies of monuments that are not paintings don't follow the rules of copyright in that way, but have their own as photographs. How about houses, churches and their architects? And to remain in NYC the Prometeus statue at the Rockefeller Center was created by Paul Manship in 1934 and he died in 1966. Its photos are PD?? (see Image:NYC Rockefeller Center Plaza by slonecker.jpg). I mean if you are right, I'm afraid there're thousands of pictures to be removed. --Marco Bonavoglia 13:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
found out about Dante. At least that one is ok: from this site:
Located opposite the Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, this larger-than-life-sized bronze sculpture depicts Italian Renaissance author and poet Dante Alighieri (1265–1321). Artist Ettore Ximenes (1855–1926) sculpted the bronze figure and garland affixed to the monument’s lofty granite pedestal, which was designed by the architectural firm of Warren and Wetmore.
--Marco Bonavoglia 13:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Very good, I have updated the description ([1]).
You may want to read Commons:Derivative works. In the USA, architecture is ok, but sculptures are not. So I guess Image:NYC Rockefeller Center Plaza by slonecker.jpg is not ok. Kjetil_r 19:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Laden2.jpg[edit]

Image deletion warning Image:Laden2.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests. If you feel that this image should not be deleted, please go there to voice your opinion on its entry.
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Slarre 04:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion[edit]

Hi! Both of the pictures have information about author:

  • Description: Sculpture "The Sphere", Battery Park, New York, USA
  • Source: own work
  • Date: 29.08.2005
  • Author: Rafal Klisowski

I mean: Image:Immigrants Battery Park New York USA.jpg and Image:The Sphere Battery Park New York USA.jpg. Rklisowski 07:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I mean “the author” as in “the artist creating the sculpture”. Unless the sculptor has been dead for 70 years, one may not photograph his works and put a free license on it. The artist creating these two works of art have not been dead for 70 years, so I do not think we can keep the photos at Commons. I ahve requested both for deletion. Sincerely, Kjetil_r 12:21, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Houtribdijk.jpg[edit]

Thanks for your remark. I sometimes forget to add author and description, especially when I take a picture from Wikipedia in some "strange" language ;-))) I've corrected it. Greetings. Pilecka 11:30, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Babe Ruth statue.jpg[edit]

So you think that image, taken of something located at baseball park visited by 50,000 people nightly during home games, is a copyrighted statue. -Edbrown05 10:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Is there any reason that this work of art is not copyrighted? Kjetil_r 11:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What do you want me to do? Say this is a derivative work of a statue that is a derivative work of the person that is no longer living? -Edbrown05 10:33, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You should provide the name and the date of death of the artist making the statue. Unless the artist has been dead for 70 years, this photo of his work may not be kept.
We can discuss this issue further here. Kjetil_r 11:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And when somebody sticks their shit in my face, you think I should respect their belief that they own it! No, they turned it over to me! I own it now! Edbrown05 09:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion continues at Commons:Deletion_requests#Image:Babe_Ruth_statue.jpg, not here. Kjetil_r 10:53, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Angela Merkel.jpg[edit]

Could you please state why the copyrights don't cover the usage! Thanks -- Boereck 16:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Boereck. The source says "Reproduction is authorised". All images at the Wikimedia Commons must be under a license that allows commercial use and derivative work, and the source does not mention this.
This image is being discussed at Commons:Deletion_requests#Image:Angela_Merkel_Cropped.jpg, we should keep the discussion there. Sincerely, Kjetil_r 16:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Commons-l subscription[edit]

Hello Kjetil r,

as per Commons talk:Administrators, I am asking all admins to subscribe to commons-l, a mailing list for Wikimedia Commons policy and project discussion. Since many admins are only on Commons infrequently, this is a good way to alert people about important happenings. The mailing list is nominally multilingual, but predominantly English.

If you are already subscribed to commons-l, I apologize for bothering you, and you are free to ignore this message. If you don't want to use your regular e-mail account, feel free to leave me a message, and I can send you a GMail invite. Traffic on the mailing list is relatively low, and we do not expect admins to read all messages to the list, but it would be nice if you could check on it at least every few weeks. Thanks for your time,--Eloquence 23:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Image Tagging Image:Kolkhoz farmers selling vegetables.jpg[edit]

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Philippe I de France, Duc d'Orleans dit Monsieur[edit]

Hi Kjetil r!

I have a question about the image described as "Louis XIV in 1666. Painting by Charles le Brun". Do you know in that picture wich is Philippe I de France, Duc d'Orleans dit Monsieur (brother to the sun king)? Thanks a lot

Leo

Sorry for not answering sooner, I forgot your question (I got it while on vacation). Unfortunatly, I do not know who is Philippe.
Sincerely, Kjetil_r 18:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Categorization[edit]

Hi, thanks for your message on my wikipedia talk. I knew I had forgotten something. :) They are all categorized now. Thanks for checking. Garion96 23:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lizenfreie Bilder[edit]

Hallo Kjetil r!

Du hattest eines meiner Bilder zum Löschen vorgeschlagen, da es nicht weltweit frei ist und es in den USA keine Panoramafreiheit für Skulpturen gibt. Wenn in Commons nur Bilder sollen, die weltweit frei von Rechten sind, so war dies sicherlich richtig. Aber müßten dann nicht alle Bilder der NASA und anderer Regierungsbehörden der USA ebenfalls gelöscht werden, da diese nur in den USA frei sind? Ich frage Dich dies hier, da mir diese Bilder wichtig sind und ich keine Grundsatzdiskussion lostreten möchte. Ich dachte bisher immer, dass das Recht des Landes gilt, in dem Anklage erhoben wird, danach hätte ich die Bilder in der deutschen Wikipedia verwenden dürfen. Weißt Du einen Link nach welchem Recht in den Commons lizenziert wird? Danke. Gruß --Martin 07:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Martin. Ich glaube, dass Bilder von NASA sind frei in der ganze Welt, sieh [2]: «NASA material is not protected by copyright unless noted». Ich weiß leider nicht wenn {{PD-USGov}}-Bilder sind weltweit Lizenzfreie, Du sollst in Commons:Village Pump oder Commons:Forum fragen. Gruß, --Kjetil_r 10:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hallo Kjetil r,
in {{PD-USGov}} ist zu lesen: "This work is in the public domain in the United States", das bedeutet doch, wo anders nicht, oder verstehe ich das falsch? Mit NASA Bildern, scheinst Du recht zu haben, die sind frei. Gruß --Martin
Copyright Law of the United States:§ 105. Subject matter of copyright United States Government works sagt dass "Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of the United States Government", aber ich habe keine ahnung ob es gilt weltweit. Gruß, --Kjetil_r 18:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

John Barrymore[edit]

Hi, I've just specified the origin of the photo, taken in the USA on the set of a 1922 film (so now in public domain). I've added the info on the license section. Thank you! :) --Pirru 11:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks. Kjetil_r 11:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help[edit]

Hello

I uploaded [[Image:Partido pirata español.svg]] but i can't see the image. can you help me? thanks and have a nice day --Jorgechp 14:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jorgechp. I can not see the image neither. I am not sure what is wrong, it may be an error in the svg code. You should ask at Commons:Help desk, somebody there might know what the problem is. Kjetil_r 19:28, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks for your reply. --Jorgechp 21:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Første steg/Bildekvalitet og beskrivelse[edit]

Kikker du på Commons:Første steg/Bildekvalitet og beskrivelse, og sjekker at jeg har fått med meg alle maler og slikt på riktig måte? Cnyborg 23:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Det var bare en større ting jeg endret, men det har jeg nå tatt opp på Commons:Tinget#Bruk_av_virkelig_navn_i_author-feltet i tilfelle jeg har oversett noe viktig. Kjetil_r 00:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Image Tagging Image:Pietro Annigoni 1966.png[edit]

Non-artistic photos older than 20 years in Italy are Public Domain, even if you don't know the author. Thanks to Paulatz for correcting the copyright tag. --/\/\π 09:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just see this foto which was taken the same day as the portrait (see the identical cloths and hairstyle), in Meldola town hall (see Pietro Annigoni), where:
  • on the wall is clearly readable the word "Settembre" which is the Italian for "september";
  • Annigoni is receiving an iron Caveja as a reward, which is a typical italian symbol.
Except this there is no other source or proof, it does not exist since the author is unknown. --/\/\π 20:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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