User talk:Fæ/Project list/PAS

Categories

Fabulous project, @Fæ. Thanks so much!!

Do you have plans to batch-add categories to these?

• Category:Ancient Roman jewellery in the United Kingdom
• Category:Ancient Roman coins in the United Kingdom
• and so on ...

Or should we just jump in with editors' tools? - PKM (talk) 21:31, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

And never mind! I just saw the discussion on your Talk page/ Standing down and awaiting further direction.  :-) - PKM (talk) 21:34, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Added User:Fæ/Project_list/PAS#Categorizing, which can be expanded as the upload has more impact. --Fæ (talk) 13:26, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks

@Fæ: @Pigsonthewing: Thanks again, all. I have now started this long-gestating article: Dress hook. - PKM (talk) 20:17, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Feedback from PAS

I've been in email correspondence with PAS, to let them know what we're up to. Their reply includes:

Thanks for your email and also for uploading our images onto the Wikimedia pages. It is greatly appreciated and very heartening to see our images being used more widely and also great to spread the word! It's very useful and we are very grateful.

Just looking at the know bugs and features section, I thought I'd better let you know that we do review the data and we have four levels of records on the database: Quarantine, means that the record is inaccurate or has an unreliable findspot and only those with higher level access can see this; red flags mean that the record is inaccurate or incomplete and awaiting further information. Again only those with higher level access can see this. Amber flagged records are visible to the public but have not yet been checked by one of our finds experts. Finally green flagged records mean that the record has been checked, published on the database and is as complete as it's going to get.

We continuously cleanse the data, removing duplicates where we are aware of these and also welcome error reports on any finds records, which can be submitted through each finds record on the database where additions or corrections can be suggested.

If it is helpful, we have also started work on a finds recording guide on the County Pages Section of the database, which may be of use to you: https://finds.org.uk/counties/findsrecordingguides/  

-- Andy Mabbett (talk) 13:29, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: interesting feedback. The bug list was more a note for future programmers about some of the possible pitfalls. With regard to the record flagging, I did notice the system but left it as a future thing to think about. We could do something like running through green flags created on PAS since the last upload run, then checking those records against old Commons descriptions to see if there is sufficient difference to re-write the descriptive text. If there are some good future examples, say where the identification has been made on unknown objects, it would be worth investing some time into developing a script. I'll wait and see if something pops up, but my expectation is that the PAS database does not change especially rapidly and this might be a project to look at in 12 months. --Fæ (talk) 16:48, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Licence issues

File:Bronze Age Dagger (FindID 424034).jpg is recorded with CC BY-SA 2.0. The source here says 4.0. It is important to record the correct CC licence version. The licence for the description text is not clear. The Terms and Conditions page says "We licence all our work under a Creative Commons Share-Alike agreement (CC BY 3.0)" but "CC BY 3.0" is not "share-alike", so that's confusing. The link on the bottom right of each page is CC BY 3.0. The terms also state the full attribution is "The Portable Antiquities Scheme/ The Trustees of the British Museum" which perhaps should be included in the edit summary on upload, in order to attribute the text.

If I click "Use this file" for the Commons file, I get "Suffolk County Council [CC BY-SA 2.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)]". This is picking up the employer of the photographer Dick Brown, neither of whom appear to the correct attribution according to Finds.Org. Compare to File:Cabot Square, Canary Wharf, London 2019-01-17, 03.jpg which makes use of the "Credit line" template to ensure attribution is correctly picked up by Commons tool. Perhaps this template could be used for this dagger in order to ensure Commons suggests the correct attribution. -- Colin (talk) 10:35, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

I've asked my PAS contacts to look at this diccussion Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:14, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Billingshurst Hoard PAS Photos

Hi Fæ, I don't know how to add Portable Antiquities Scheme records on wikimedia commons for use on wikipedia, so I'd like to ask you if you can help me by uploading the photos of the roman coins and their descriptions on the link below for use in the Billingshurst wikipedia article: https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/934557 I am unsure if these are already added but if so, I can't find them on wikimedia commons. TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 11:22, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

I had problems accessing the site today, but using the internet archive here, it can be seen that the images are marked as "All Rights Reserved". The batch upload project will automatically reject these for upload as they do not meet the Licensing policy. --Fæ (talk) 12:20, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up for me. It's a shame though that they can't be uploaded... TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 03:25, 2 November 2019 (UTC)