User talk:Barfodt

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Military coats of arms of Norway

Hi,

I recently stumbled across your galleries (1 and 2) of Norwegian military coats of arms and really liked them. Would it be possible to make a gallery on both the Norwegian and English Wikipedia pages, where they are sorted in some logical way? Maybe even with a little text field under each coat of arms for the blazon? I also really like the coats you have made yourself. Let med know if you have an overview over missing coats and maybe I can help to round off the list. Sincerely, Worldlydev (talk) 20:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello and thanks,

Appreciate your work on Norwegian military coat of arms. My sandbox is my unfinished attempt at redesigning the military section of the Armorial of Norway, the most logical place to display these coats of arms. Unfortunately, the Norwegian wiki (both no/nn) lack such a page, so it would have to be created from scratch. I can finish my work and update the military section on the Armorial page, making it easier to add stuff later.

I believe we’ve covered a majority of the common and Army coats of arms. You might search “heraldiske våpen for forsvarets fellesavdelinger” and “TJ 12-3-2 Bestemmelse for Hærens distinksjoner og andre uniformstegn” (page 35-44) on google to see what arms are missing. In addition, we’re lacking most Navy and Air Force heraldry. Navy coat of arms in 2010 can be seen here (additionally, check the file “Uniformsbestemmelser for Sjøforsvaret SAP – 7 2013” page 25 for 2013 and better resolution). For Air Force there’s “Uniformsbestemmelser for Luftforsvaret BFL 025-1 Del 8 Heraldiske våpen” with references and official descriptions, though it seems a little difficult to find. Kind Regards, Barfodt (talk) 21:28, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Will take a look. This is definitely a longer term project though so I will be working at a slow pace. Wanted to let you know by the way that the correct standardized names for Norwegian military divisions can be found here: English in the Norwegian Armed Forces Worldlydev (talk) 12:52, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Indeed, I'll try to work on the Air Force heraldry when I have time. Thanks for that document on standardized English names and the file corrections. It's sometimes difficult to find correct name translations. I'll also update the Armorial soon. Barfodt (talk) 18:31, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Think I have just about finished creating coats for all current air force divisons. Will upload them during the weekend. Just wanted to reach out to say I also made a coat of arms for the air force staff that diverges from yours. Is it ok if i upload it as a new version of your file? Worldlydev (talk) 17:36, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Looking forward to seeing them. You're welcome to upload a new version of the air force staff if you think it more representative. If yours is more heraldic, you could alternatively upload it as "coat of arms" since mine is titled "emblem". I've also done a few of the common armed forces coat of arms and most of the cyber defence. However, I haven't found any official English names for the cyber ones, so they have only directly translated names. I encourage you to fix any names if they turn out wrong. Barfodt (talk) 19:03, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Think I am done with all current air force divisions. Wasn't quite sure of all the names so feel free to fix them if you stumble across English names somewhere. Also added a staff to your air force staff file per (U) Plansjer, merker, tegn, faner og flagg mv which I have been using to keep an overview of standarized designs in the armed forces of Norway. The air force section should probably be reorganized but I am not quite sure how you want it structured. Worldlydev (talk) 16:19, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Good work doing the all the Air Force heraldry. I've gone and reorganized them. I unfortunately don't have access to (U) Plansjer, merker, tegn, faner og flagg mv so I don't have an overview of current designs. Barfodt (talk) 21:43, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Tried to again reorganize the gallery as it is getting quite out of hand with all the coats (good job by the way). I personally tried to organize it as the military actually is structured. Take a look and see what you think. If you don't like it then no harm done, can undo it. Worldlydev (talk) 21:02, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

I really like the reorganization, it both makes sense and is easier to understand. I'm going to remove "Norwegian" from most titles, given that it's going to be on the Armorial of Norway. That's what has been done with other gov agencies. Barfodt (talk) 18:57, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

It is pretty difficult at this point to find which coats are missing (and picture examples of the missing coats that we already know of so that we can actually make new coats). Should we perhaps make a to-do list in the sandbox or on the talk page with the coats that we know are missing? I have a feeling the last coats may be a slightly longer term project compared to the pace we've been working at and it would be nice to keep an overview somewhere. Worldlydev (talk) 17:17, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree, I can't really find any more common, Army nor Air force coats that are undone. We are however missing most of the Navy, a rather large task. I'm currently doing on the oldest historical army coat of arms, before 1983. I'll add a space for a list on top of the sandbox.

Also, you named Marinen as "Marines", which is used for naval infantry in English. I see that the Norwegian Navy wiki page use the "Fleet" while Forsvarets page simply use Navy. I think "Fleet" is probably the best translation. Barfodt (talk) 19:24, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Couldn't find any translation so that was the best I came up with. Feel free to suggest a file rename. Just remember to keep the same naming scheme for both the museum and music as well. Would be nice if you then also fixed the captions on Wikimedia Commons. Worldlydev (talk) 19:56, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I think I can finish off all of the navy coats of arms on my own. At least all current ones. Just letting you know in case you want to prioritize something else. Worldlydev (talk) 12:14, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Good. I'll focus on finishing the historical arms that I can find. Barfodt (talk) 12:53, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Good work on the navy arms. What font do you use for them? I also saw the "Avdelingsmerke" page on no wiki that you've contributed to. I think that's the perfect place to post our arms on the Norwegian wiki. When we're ready, I'll post there after posting this English list. Barfodt (talk) 19:52, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Haha haven't really noticed that article at all. Just checked and all my edits there are via GlobalReplace which I have used for superseded coats of arms. I agree that the article probably is where the coats should be displayed on the Norwegian Wikipedia. It's perfect as that article is specifically for military coats. Font-wise I have been using Myriad Pro SemiCondensed Bold, which is the offical font used by the Norwegian Armed Forces as specified on page 8 of Skiltprogram for forsvarssektoren. Worldlydev (talk) 22:13, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the font. Btw, I've listed the historical navy I've found so far. They were in the 2007 Uniformsreglement for Sjøforsvaret SAP – 7 (F). Barfodt (talk) 22:43, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm making good progress on quite a few of the historical arms. If you want to wait with making more coats and instead try to fix some of the errors I have made it would be much appreciated. Also wanted to say I have overwritten some of your coats/updates. Not because mine are better, simply due to the fact that they are vectorized from another source. Would be nice if you took a look at what I've done to make sure I haven't messed any of your work up. Worldlydev (talk) 18:19, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

I'll see if I find any errors to fix while I'm working on obscure historical and unofficial coat of arms. Our goal is to recreate the heraldry the best as possible so no problem with overwriting to improve. Also, I'm wondering if it would be smart to separate the navy ship heraldry as a separate section under navy. I'll sort it and you can tell me if you think it works. Barfodt (talk) 23:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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