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File tagging File:Nguyễn Phúc Vĩnh Lộc.jpg

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 Băng Tỏa  15:22, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I've changed the Licensing information of this file. 源義信 (talk) 15:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

File tagging File:Nguyễn Phúc Vĩnh Lộc.jpg

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 Băng Tỏa  17:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, the source is okay but you need to prove that this photo is taken by an employee of the U.S. federal government. Maybe try to find if the image appears on any website of the government, where it was clearly stated that the materials on the website is in public domain. [Nguồn hình ok bạn ạ nhưng bạn cần chứng minh là nhân viên chính phủ Hoa Kỳ chụp hình này. Bạn có thể thử tìm xem có hình này trên các trang web của chính phủ Hoa Kỳ không, nhớ check phần giấy phép của trang web đó để biết được là các nội dung/hình ảnh trên trang web có thuộc phạm vi công cộng hay không.]  Băng Tỏa  18:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
The photograph was taken from the US Army Command and General Staff College. The website points out that these personal photographs are from the school's Regular Course 'kỷ yếu của các niên khóa', so it is the work of a school belonging to the US Army. The copyright label does not state that the photograph must have been taken by an employee of the US federal government, but rather that it was taken or made. 源義信 (talk) 02:33, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

US copyright tags needed

Hi, I came across your upload log today and some of the images you uploaded seemed problematic. Commons is a U.S.-based website so everything you uploaded here have to comply with the U.S. copyright law (which is complicated, if you wanna know my opinion). Therefore, you have to provide a U.S. copyright tag to all those public domain images, such as:

Anyways, since you transferred these files from their home wikis to Commons, it is your duty to prove that they are in PD in the US before they get deleted. Were they to stay in their home wikis, no US copyright compliance would be needed. If you need a Vietnamese translation, please let me know.  Băng Tỏa  18:21, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I do not think that photos with "PD-ROC-oldphoto" requires additional US copyright tags, as the template itself implies that the photo is in the public domain in both the ROC and the US, if the photo was taken before the specified time. The latter photograph is in this case.
I've always had a question about whether photos that are just in the public domain in one country, but not yet in the public domain in the US, can stay on Wikicommons or not. I have seen many such photos before and I have been told that there is no consensus on this. Once I saw some files being requested for deletion and it has been pointed out by a user that this alone is not enough to delete a file, and the files were not deleted. 源義信 (talk) 02:18, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
There is no consensus on that, but the basic established rule is that Commons is still a U.S.-based website. That's why a lot of licensing tags state that "This file needs a U.S. copyright tags". Files only PD in one country (e.g. Vietnam) are perfectly safe in Vietnamese Wikipedia. But once you transfer them to Commons, the local versions in Vietnamese Wikipedia will be deleted (I won't delete them, but I can't guarantee that someone else won't). So, for example, if the versions in Commons get deleted too, then they are gone forever. If you want to get them back, you'll have to re-upload them on viwiki. You understand what I mean? I just want to tell you the risks that go along. That's why, some of us in viwiki check files very carefully before importing to Commons.  Băng Tỏa  22:26, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
I removed the image permission template because in this case we are talking about whether the file is in the public domain because it's a US gov't work and not whether it was authorised by someone (I used that permission template incorrectly before), so this template is no longer relevant. And with only seven days given by this template, I am concerned that this document will be deleted before it is discussed, and that is rash. 源義信 (talk) 14:51, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
I am now going through my uploaded files from the beginning and some of them, for example Trường Cao Đẳng Quốc Phòng Việt Nam Cộng Hòa.png, File:General Nguyễn Văn Vỹ.jpg, do not meet the requirements of the public domain and I have asked for their deletion. Some of the pictures have been removed as I am the uploader so it is doing well. 源義信 (talk) 15:15, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

File:Hồng y Nguyễn Văn Thuận.jpg

This file's license is not yet compatible with Commons as it does not (or haven't) confirmed commercial use and derivative use, despite having the PD licensing tag. Licensing tags are not to be trusted blindly, as most people tend to just deceptively put on some tags for the sake of uploading an image without actually holding a license. This kind of file should be checked carefully before blindly transferring them to Commons. That's why it was located in a category called Images from Internet which need to be checked manually. Which part of "need to be checked manually" did you not understand? Particularly in this situation, one has to ask the uploader to contact VRT team to submit evidence of permission (see Commons:Volunteer Response Team). I went ahead and asked the uploader for you whether he could sort it out with VRT, see vi:Thảo_luận_Thành_viên:ThiênĐế98#Tập_tin. But this kind of situation shouldn't repeat.  Băng Tỏa  22:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Băng Tỏa. thank you for your reply, I understand the situation now. This is a document I transferred from the Vietnamese wiki a few months ago. I didn't know much about the rules at the time, I just saw that the file was marked as "public domain" on the Vietnamese wiki and that there was a screenshot of the email below, so I did that. Luckily the file on the Vietnamese wiki was not deleted because of the transfer.
I recently transferred a few photos and I checked the copyright status of the photos before transferring them. For example, File:Dang The Phong.jpg and File:Doan Man 1943.jpg. If possible, could you please check these files, as I am afraid my understanding may be wrong. 源義信 (talk) 08:06, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

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欢迎参与讨论：Commons_talk:Library_back_up_project#Proposal:_Tolerate_users_to_upload_pre-1949_Chinese_books_建议：容忍用户上传1949年和以前的中文书籍 Upload for Freedom (talk) 11:09, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to Nguyễn Dynasty topics

Great Southern Barnstar
Thank you for uploading so many Nguyễn Dynasty period works to the Wikimedia Commons, I've been seeing a lot of your uploads in the categories that I've been working with and I think that your presence has made the Wikimedia Commons a better place. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Portrait of Emperor Thành Thái.jpg

Copyright status: File:Portrait of Emperor Thành Thái.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Portrait of Emperor Thành Thái.jpg. I notice that the file page either doesn't contain enough information about the license or it contains contradictory information about the license, so the copyright status is unclear.

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Some works that can be imported in the future

I see that you're doing amazing work uploading works from the Nguyễn Dynasty and South Vietnam to the Wikimedia Commons. I have found a number of works that you might be interested importing as well.

From: https://leminhkhai.blog/why-we-know-so-little-about-premodern-vietnamese-popular-religion/

Note the comment: "Actually, quite a few of the Vietnamese publications have been digitalized here:

https://lib.nomfoundation.org/collection/1/?uiLang=en

... There are therefore TONS of materials available online for professional and amateur scholars. One could easily spend several lifetimes studying the texts that are freely available online.".

With other relevant links:

Specifically works referenced, many of which are either on Gallica or in the Hán-Nôm Library. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 13:58, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much for this information, I will work on those documents afterwards. Nomfoundation books are uploaded in picture form, so I think I may need to combine them into PDF files and then import them.
Btw, I don't understand some parts of the copyright rules: for anonymous works and pictures, as long as they were published before 1947, they can be uploaded to Commons, then what about books? On the one hand, according to the Copyright rules, the law protects the wrok for 50 years after the death of the author (that is, according to the URAA, we can only upload his works if the author died before 1948?) But on the other hand, what if we don't know when the author died, or it's a work of an organisation? One more question is, if the author died before 1947, can I upload his works which are published in 1970, or in 2022? 源義信 (talk) 16:40, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
Regarding the last question, do you mean posthumously published? Posthumous works are granted 50 years of copyright protection from the date of first publication. (According to Decree No. 22/2018 Article 24). -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:00, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
Emm I mean another situation: for example, we know Phan Mạnh Danh died in 1942 and he's Bút hoa thi tập was firstly published in 1942, then can I upload the 1953 published copy of Bút hoa thi tập? 源義信 (talk) 17:06, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
If it's not creatively different (so a faithful recreation) it would be the same work, only annotations or different covers or something would likely be protected. If someone re-publishes a public domain work without substantially altering it then it doesn't automatically become a copyrighted work, I don't recall this being any different with Vietnamese copyright law. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:11, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
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