Template talk:Nazi symbol

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is this license okay to use it for pics of Adolf Hitler? Schaengel89 @me 14:47, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You might want to slap this template onto pics of Hitler, just to be sure. However, I don't think there is any problem using such photos, especially not for educational purposes such as ours. Chamaeleon 15:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

even though Hitler may be a symbol of the nazi government, the law this template refers to, only applys to badges, insignia, flags, uniforms and greetings (from [1] Kennzeichen [...] sind namentlich Fahnen, Abzeichen, Uniformstücke, Parolen und Grußformen.) . So you don't need to do this (at least if he is not wearing a SS uniform) -- Gorgo 01:27, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Concerning my adding of Hungary: use of Nazi symbols in Hungary is covered in 269/B of the Hungarian criminal law (Btk). (Essentially, you can't use or show them in public, unless for educational, scientific, informative etc. purposes.) Actually this applies only to the swastika, the SS badge and the Hungarian version of the swastika (with arrows on its ends), but whatever. --Tgr 15:13, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

No flags please

I replaced flags with language name templates (again). Plese note that a clear majority on Commons_talk:Templates_for_galleries voted against the use of flags to represent languages. -- 3247 14:33, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

French law

Display of Nazi symbols is also illegal in France, under Art. R645-1 Code pénal. Physchim62 13:34, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Judgement in Germany

OLG Stuttgart, Urteil v. 24. April 2006 - 1 Ss 449/05

• Pressemitteilung des OLG Stuttgart, OLG zur Strafbarkeit von Links zu illegalen Webseiten im Rahmen einer Dokumentation, juraforum.de
• Hyperlink-Prozess: Netzaktivist erneut freigesprochen, heise.de

Template in de de:Vorlage:Kennzeichen verfassungswidriger Organisationen -- Cherubino 21:56, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Polish law

The using of nazi symbols as such isn't forbidden by Polish law! It's only forbidden to use them to promote the nazi state. The same accords to any graphical content used in this case. Shaqspeare 11:07, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Russian law

In Russian law :

Федеральный закон «Об увековечении победы Советского народа 
в Великой Отечественной войне 1941 — 1945 годов» 
от 19 апреля 1995 года №80-ФЗ 
(в ред. Федеральных законов от 22.08.2004 № 122-ФЗ, от 03.11.2006 № 179-ФЗ)

...В Российской Федерации запрещается использование в любой форме 
нацистской символики как оскорбляющей многонациональный 
народ и память о понесенных в Великой Отечественной войне жертвах.

[2]--sk 15:58, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

translated to English by google translate: Federal Law "On the perpetuation of the victory of the Soviet people

in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945 " dated April 19, 1995 No. 80-FZ (as amended by Federal Laws dated 22.08.2004 No. 122-FZ, dated 03.11.2006 No. 179-FZ)

... In the Russian Federation, use in any form is prohibited Nazi symbolism as insulting multinational people and memory of the victims suffered in the Great Patriotic War. Monkleonmars 07:10, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Overused?

This seems to be used at any images having swastika on it. E.g. Finland roundel WW2 border.svg or Kipling swastika.png after all aren't Nazi symbols as the template claims, are they? 193.40.10.181 19:10, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Some people seem to assume that the swastika is purely a Nazi symbol. I just removed this notice from a symbol for peace. Too bad. 68.82.33.104 01:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Faulty translation of {{Nazi symbol}}

Could someone change the autotranslation to French so as to read: "[...] Utiliser des images d'organisations interdites en Allemagne (comme la svastika du parti nazi) peut, selon le contexte être illégal en Allemagne [...]", instead of "[...] Utiliser des images d'organisations interdites en Allemagne (comme la svastika du parti nazi) peut, selon le contexte être illégale en Allemagne [...]", which an obvious misprint.

Thanks. --Azurfrog (talk) 21:44, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Isn't it pathetic to have a clear swastika in a template about the banning of Nazi symbols

As said above. Why not have a blurred out swastika on the Nazi flag for the template - it blurs it out to show that it is banned. Rather than having a swastika with some red "s"-looking symbol on top of it - the current template is USING a swastika so it will have to template ITSELF as using a Nazi symbol - that's pathetic. Please change it to having a blurred out swastika.

The swastika itself is not banned at all, just in the nazi colours and usage in nazi context. --Denniss (talk) 09:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorbian translations

Since Nazi symbols are banned throughout the Sorbian-speaking region, I think that translations into the Sorbian languages should be added in the long term. --84.61.157.93 20:44, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Dutch

The Dutch word "nazi" does not start with a capital. Can someone correct the Dutch version of this template? Also, as you can see on the Taalunie's website (the institution that governs Dutch spelling), compound words like "nazileider" ("Nazi leader") are written as one word, so please change "Nazi hakenkruis" in "nazihakenkruis". Thank you. Caudex Rax (talk) 12:06, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposal to remove "(or resembles)"

During the process of uploading collections from the Auckland museum, a number of Nazi badges and medals were included, and these can correctly be marked with this template. However, part of the same collections include Māori artworks that happen to include swastika style symbols, the use of which significantly predates the existence of Nazi symbols. Adding this warning template better to comply with German law is inappropriate for unrelated artworks, and the comparison may be offensive to users or viewers.

This proposal is to remove "(or resembles)" from the template wording, it is not required by German law and has the above issues. A normal reading of the remaining text would still mean that symbols created that deliberately look like Nazi emblems or symbols should still be marked with the template.

Comments welcome, but if there is none for a few days, I'll go ahead with the change.

Thanks --Fæ (talk) 13:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

•  Support --Jarekt (talk) 14:31, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
•  Oppose IANAL, but I read in § 86a StGB (this is linked at least in German translation) in section (2), sentence 2, an explicit “Den in Satz 1 genannten Kennzeichen stehen solche gleich, die ihnen zum Verwechseln ähnlich sind.” Google translates this quite correctly to “The marks mentioned in sentence 1 are equal to those which are almost identical to them.” Well, I see the almost identical. I think the intention is to hinder people in using replacements for the forbidden original symbols. This said I also think that the template documentation could be enhanced, but we should probably discuss this in the next thread. For the Maori originated stuff my opinion is the same that this template is not necessary for it. See also Swastika and the according category. — Speravir – 21:53, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
•  Comment maybe just change it to something like "or closely resembles"? Or, to be closer to the actual law "or could be mistaken for". --El Grafo (talk)
  • Sounds good. Note, that Google’s or almost identical is the same as El Grafo’s better paraphasing. — Speravir – 22:52, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi, something among the lines of almost identical is probably a good idea. (I am the author of de:Wikipedia:Gebrauch verfassungswidriger Symbole.) --Gnom (talk) 23:12, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Which symbols are required to have this template?

I guess just swastika, but many other symbols seem to have this template:

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Many of those images might have been (or resemble) logos used by Nazis during WWII but I doubt they are still associated with Nazis. The template says: "The use of insignia of organizations that have been banned in Germany (like the Nazi swastika or the arrow cross) are also illegal in [] Poland, [] and other countries, depending on context. ". Polish law does say it is illegal to do anything with objects or prints that had fascist or communist symbols (będące nośnikiem symboliki faszystowskiej, komunistycznej lub innej totalitarnej) unless it is for artistic, educational, collection or scientific purposes (w ramach działalności artystycznej, edukacyjnej, kolekcjonerskiej lub naukowej). So at least in Poland law is quite unclear but I would not say that such insignia are banned in Poland, just some uses of insignia are banned. The language of {{Insignia}} : The use of such symbols is restricted in many countries. These restrictions are independent of the copyright status. might be more appropriate. --Jarekt (talk) 15:17, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Jarekt: It's pretty much the same for Germany: some uses of these symbols are forbidden, others are allowed (education, science, arts etc.). This is more apparent in the German translation of the template, but still covered by the english version through "depending on context". --El Grafo (talk) 14:19, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

What we lack is a better explanation in the template documentation. If best practice is to only use Nazi symbol on objects that are Nazi memorabilia, or images that are intended to represent them, then that should be explained in the template. Similarly if best practice will be to add the more general Insignia to images which represent objects with restrictions in various countries, even if they do not have a swastika, then the documentation for that template needs to spell out how the choice should be made.

The template does get used by people without much experience in this area, nor even language skills to read the relevant legal codes, so our documents need to lay out the choices to be made very clearly, including when the templates should not be applied; such as to historic cultural artefacts that have nothing to do with political symbols.

I would much prefer it if German and Polish speakers were to take part in getting this done well, these are skills I do not have. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 16:38, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

File:All directions.png appears to be an arrow cross combined with a square, I think this template is appropriate for it, along with logos or shields of all armed groups only fighting for the Nazis.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 17:48, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

The all directions file seems to be something an Arabic user made up, and its uses on the Arabic Wikipedia seem to be as a simple "all directions" symbol, to head a "quick link" infobox. w:Talk:Arrow Cross says that "For example, the Arrow Cross is a cursor in Windows XP when moving a dialog box after selecting the "move" command from the dropdown from a running task", so I think an arrow cross with a square like was never used by any Nazi/Fascist organization is outside what anyone cares about.

I wouldn't remove this from any of the logos of Nazi organizations, which seems to be the rest of them.--Prosfilaes (talk) 08:33, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

I removed the template from All directions.png. I do not see a connection to Nazi era. I’m unsure about 24 U-flotilia.jpg. The others are from Nazi origin and setting the template was fully right. — Speravir – 22:00, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

the black signs (shields) were symbols of different SS-Divisions. Some of these divisions were involved in war crime, but I havn´t checked these signs. The horse+sword f.e. is the 8th SS Cavalry Division Florian Geyer, they have committed war crimes on the Balkan 1941. The use of SS-symbols in general is forbidden (in Austria and Germany). Therefore the template must be used. The antler (of the U24) can be exempt, I think. bw --Hannes 24 (talk) 12:56, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit request

{{Edit request}} Requesting to restore <https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Nazi_symbol/en&diff=prev&oldid=344158758> which I made w/o noticing that the template was fully protected. It updates the link to the new domain as well as uses HTTPS. All other links should probably be checked and updated accordingly as well. Thank you. —MarcoAurelio 11:21, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done The troubles of being a steward! :-) 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Suggested change of bolding for added clarity

{{Editprotected}} Currently:

Legal disclaimer This image shows (or resembles) a symbol that was used by the National Socialist (NSDAP/Nazi) government of Germany or an organization closely associated to it, or another party which has been banned by the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany. The use of insignia of organizations that have been banned in Germany (like the Nazi swastika or the arrow cross) are also illegal in Austria, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, France, Brazil, Israel, Ukraine, Russia and other countries, depending on context. In Germany, the applicable law is paragraph 86a of the criminal code (StGB), in Poland – Art. 256 of the criminal code (Dz.U. 1997 nr 88 poz. 553).

Suggested:

Legal disclaimer This image shows (or resembles) a symbol that was used by the National Socialist (NSDAP/Nazi) government of Germany or an organization closely associated to it, or another party which has been banned by the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany. The use of insignia of organizations that have been banned in Germany (like the Nazi swastika or the arrow cross) are also illegal in Austria, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, France, Brazil, Israel, Ukraine, Russia and other countries, depending on context. In Germany, the applicable law is paragraph 86a of the criminal code (StGB), in Poland – Art. 256 of the criminal code (Dz.U. 1997 nr 88 poz. 553).

Thank you for your consideration. 2001:14BA:984A:F200:0:0:0:8EA 13:20, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Y Partly done: No need to debold the "banned in Germany" part but I did include the "also" in the list of bold countries where these symbols are also banned. --Majora (talk) 03:37, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Error en español

La traducción al español del texto de la plantilla es defectuosa. Donde dice “El uso insignias” debería decir “El uso de insignias” para darle sentido a la frase. Gracias. Goldorak (talk) 09:01, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Arreglado. Gracias. —MarcoAurelio 22:00, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Grammar

{{Edit protected}} I believe "are also illegal" in the English version should be "is also illegal" because "the use" is singular. Alternatively, you could change it back to "may also be illegal". [3] whym (talk) 13:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done (with “may also be illegal”, since I think that makes more sense with the “depending on context” later) --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 14:38, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Link to Polish Criminal Code is dead

{{Edit request}} The corrected link (to pdf) is https://isap.sejm.gov.pl/isap.nsf/download.xsp/WDU19970880553/U/D19970553Lj.pdf

The link to the ISAP page is https://isap.sejm.gov.pl/isap.nsf/DocDetails.xsp?id=WDU19970880553 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilbitmessy (talk • contribs) 23:19, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Lilbitmessy talk 23:21, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:08, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Template:Nazi symbol/pl linkfix

{{Ep}} Request: — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 37.249.137.39 (talk) 12:48, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Corrected link: https://isap.sejm.gov.pl/isap.nsf/download.xsp/WDU19970880553/U/D19970553Lj.pdf (PDF link)

The link to the ISAP page is https://isap.sejm.gov.pl/isap.nsf/DocDetails.xsp?id=WDU19970880553

Can change fix (Template:Nazi symbol/pl) law link? 37.249.137.39 12:47, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

No, sorry. We need a Polish-speaking user who is autoconfirmed to do that. I tagged this section as such.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 12:56, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

I don’t follow, what’s the request being made here? The two links are the same as in Lilbitmessy’s request just above, which was supposedly done. Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 16:07, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

It seems that my request led only to the English version being fixed, but the Polish one still has the dead link Lilbitmessy talk 08:26, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done - Lilbitmessy talk 08:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Chinese law?

China: The use of Nazi symbols are illegal in China. According to Article 47 of the Public Security Administration Punishment Law, anyone who incites ethnic hatred or ethnic discrimination, or publishes ethnic discriminatory or insulting content in publications or computer information networks shall be sentenced to detention for not less than ten days and not more than fifteen days, and may be fined not more than one thousand yuan. Subject to administrative punishment as above. According to Article 249 of the Criminal Law of the People's Republic of China, if a person incites ethnic hatred or ethnic discrimination and the circumstances are serious, he shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment not more than three years, detention, supervision or deprivation of political rights; if the circumstances are particularly serious, he shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment not less than three years but not more than ten years. 46.77.237.147 13:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Fix the template?

Update:

Legal disclaimer This image shows (or resembles) a symbol that was used by the National Socialist (NSDAP/Nazi) government of Germany or an organization closely associated to it, or another party which has been banned by the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany. The use of insignia of organizations that have been banned in Germany (like the Nazi swastika or the arrow cross) may also be illegal in Austria, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, France, Brazil, Israel, Ukraine, Russia, China, Lithuania and other countries, depending on context. In Germany, the applicable law is paragraph 86a of the criminal code (StGB), in Poland – Art. 256 of the criminal code (Dz.U. 1997 nr 88 poz. 553 with later changes), in Hungary section 335 of the criminal code.

NOTE: Please do not use this template directly! This is just for translation.

37.249.137.100 16:22, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Australia

From 2024, Australia was one of the first countries to outlaw the display of Nazi symbolism. Here is my source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-65840812

OMGShay 92 (talk) 07:38, 13 March 2024 (UTC)