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Meta Graphics Lab

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This project would be better off it it worked as a portal for all the other Graphic Labs. Centralize the resources to create one awesome Graphics Lab! Rocket000 23:25, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

It's a great idea, but a lot of work is involved. Λua∫Wise ^{(Operibus anteire)} 16:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

For those Working in the Graphic Lab ...

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I volunteer to help on projects that might need code written from scratch. My "To DO" list is on my Users Page. Please comment on my Talk Page if you can use me. I work in Mathematica. Thanks Doug youvan (talk) 16:38, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Think it should be easier to upload media from a Wikipedia article page?

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I'm submitting a proposal to improve this process. Have thoughts/ideas? Add to the discussion here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Easy_Media_Uploader

Appreciate the feedback! Ashstar01 (talk) 18:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Help needed for changing map

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File:Location of Cossack Hetmanate.png has been nominated for deletion; while actually it just needs some changes... I am afraid I don't have the right equipment to change the map.... Some help wanted! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:31, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

en:Wikipedia/Commons:Photo_workshop interplay

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I thought it might be good to share this Photography workshop thread here as some of it leads to policy discussions which may affect Commons. --Kevjonesin (talk) 15:57, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Illustration workshop talk page?

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Does anyone know/remember why the Illustration workshop discussion page redirects here rather than having it's own page?

Seems to me that it should have it's own so that this page could be reserved for meta discussions affecting all the workshops.

Anyone else?

--Kevjonesin (talk) 03:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

• In light of the explicit notice at the to of this page, i.e.:

This page is for discussion of the Graphic Lab page in general. Please place any requests in the appropriate workshop page. Commons:Graphics village pump is available for other discussions. Thank you.

...I'm going to go ahead and look into converting the Illustration workshop discussion page into an active page instead of a redirect. If it's a straightforward process, I'll go ahead and implement the change. --Kevjonesin (talk) 20:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd get something of a consensus first. There is a good reason why it's centralised. Penyulap ☏ 20:16, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Since none of the other workshops redirects to Commons talk:Graphic Lab it's not really centralized either. --Patrick87 (talk) 20:34, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I support to link all workshops here. -- Perhelion (talk) 14:47, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Working or temporary upload

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I do graphic work here and doing so I all the time has to show requesters drafts in different stages of completion for feedback. Also the requester has to give me dummies so that I know e.g. what area a map should include and so on.
This has to be managed outside of commons (to my knowledge) because there is no way to upload a draft/dummy for temporary storage/viewing (maybe not visible to every one) which could easily be removed ones the request is completed.
So now there is images uploaded which really is not correct and wrong in many ways, not every one has the possibility to store and show image elsewhere on the internet. Those wrongful images will be kept here at commons to no good and they can make a mess in the future if they are used in an improper way.

• Is there a way to handle this right now which I'm not aware of?
• If not, is this not something that we could add to commons?

--Goran tek-en (talk) 14:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned

• There is no current way to easily handle this s far as I know, except File:Test.svg and SVGCheck (which you probably already know).
• I'd definitely vote for some dedicated mechanism to create working copies in an environment similar to Wikipedia (especially including librsvg rendering). In some cases the current possibilities are just not sufficient: As an example one might want to show and compare multiple SVG images as rendered by librsvg in multiple sizes. Uploading multiple files on Commons only to speedy delete them afterwards doesn't seem right; uploading as multiple file versions of Test.svg doesn't allow for the comparison of RSVG renderings; uploading them to third party servers and maybe even creating RSVG renderings manually is inconvenient, doesn't allow local embedding and might not be reasonable for everybody.
  One possibility I could imagine would be using testwiki: for working copies (any thoughts)? Some dedicated system on Labs optimized to upload multiple working copies with easy file management (especially deletion) and allowing to render multiple PNG-Thumbnails on-the-fly would probably be the most perfect solution but I doubt anybody wants to put that much work in something like that.

--Patrick87 (talk) 18:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I looked at testwiki: but from what I understand this site involves code testing so that would not be a good place to look at how a svg renders and so on.

• I don't know where to go with a suggestion like this, do you know?
• Do you know anyone here that can create stuff like that?
• People do upload images like this because there is no other way and I'm pretty sure the do not (in most cases) ask for a speedy deletion afterwards.
  
• I would also love having the features you are talking about, but as you say, can we get anyone to put in the work. So maybe we should start of with just a place to upload as described BUT with the aim to include more functions as you describe. If now commons try to become THE place for this and graphic work it should of course be a part of it. This is what is written at the GL page;
  

The Graphic Lab and the Graphics village pump aim to transform Commons from an uploaders' community to a true working graphist community, based on the four graphic skills and interests categories.

• There must be a place to start this work but I don't know where, I hope someone does.
  

--Goran tek-en (talk) 19:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Graphics village pump

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Is it not better to merge this discussion page with the Commons:Graphics village pump? Keep it simple, keep it central / collectively!? In general it is not good to split things that are not clear, that is only more confusing and awkward for everyone (and weakens the working here on Commons). -- Perhelion (talk) 10:51, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Strictly speaking this page should be about discussion regarding the Graphics Lab itself (e.g. for providing the labs infrastructure but not for user requests), while Commons:Graphics village pump should be about general questions regarding graphics (that is mainly user requests).
From the topics on both pages it is apparent that both are pretty mixed up anyway, so I don't know if we really gain one way or another. In principle I'd prefer the current structure but in practice it doesn't seem to work... --Patrick87 (talk) 13:39, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey Patrick87, if we take a look at the first topic that is near in that significations what I mean but even much more bigger. -- Perhelion (talk) 15:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Hope I am right here

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moved to Commons:Graphic_Lab/Video_and_sound_workshop#Hope_I_am_right_here. --McZusatz (talk) 10:03, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Would you replace this with this...

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  Original version at size it is used on the encyclopaedia
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  Touched version

Will I replace it? Am I asking this in the right place? I'm not intending to further improve it. As you can see it is fuzzy around the edges and the touching is very light and has several issues, but I still thought it looked a bit clearer and cleaner...? ~ R.T.G 01:02, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

List of workshops

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In the instructions section, it says "Requests for image improvement are placed on one of the available workshops", with a link to Commons:Graphic Lab/Workshops, but that page just has {{{1}}} {{{2}}} etc. for the list of workshops. How can this be fixed? Those are links to the correct workshops, but it would be nice to see the names. Delphi234 (talk) 01:12, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Image optimization challenge

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Think you are good at image editing? I have a challenge for you. See en:File talk:500 x 500 SMPTE Color Bars.png#Challenge. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:03, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Watermark templates

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For any watermarked image where the watermark is transparent, the watermark itself can be often recovered. This makes any further watermark removal clean, quick and exact. It is, however, quite laborious to extract them. Because of this and since I have accumulated quite a few of them over the years, I decided I should make them publicly available to other graphists to prevent needless work. So, here they are: my watermark templates. Consider checking that list first if you come across a watermark that needs removing. And if you have any watermark templates laying around or you create any new ones, consider adding them to that list (it can be moved away from my User's namespace, if there's any outside activity). Regards, Quibik (talk) 22:29, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Changed map section?

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Why has the the Map section another layout than the other sections and most important: The New request link is not longer on the Map section so we don't get the code we need to work on a request?
Sure I can add it myself but why the difference and change? --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:57, 5 August 2017 (UTC)