Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives October 23 2019

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Consensual review

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File:2007-04-07_07_Achilles-Sport_175,_Bj._1955,_front_(Foto_Spu).jpg

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@Peulle: It's clear that you vote against the image. Still, I wanted to present this bronze colored scooter as the main object and put it in the middle. Also, have you never seen a photo rated as a high-quality image that does not quite show the complete objects in the background? I even remember pictures of automobiles with posters in the windshield that were found to be good. But a photo taken by Spurzem can not be good in your eyes. Regards -- Spurzem 15:42, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I withdraw and put the picture back to the former crop. -- Spurzem 16:13, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Running total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → More votes?   --Seven Pandas 21:49, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ellerholzdamm,_Pallets,_WPAhoi,_Hamburg_(P1080334).jpg

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  • Nomination Stacks of wooden pallets near Reiherstieg, Hamburg --MB-one 08:01, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
     Support Good quality. --Poco a poco 08:03, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
     Oppose That's too bright, especially the background. Look at the balcony at the left. I ask to discuss. -- Spurzem 11:19, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Spurzem. --Smial 07:59, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 08:17, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Mannersdorf_Rochusberg_62.jpg

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  • Nomination Objekt auf dem Rochusberg in Mannersdorf an der March (Niederösterreich). --Manfred Kuzel 04:15, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 04:24, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. Patterns in the sky. Sorry. Maybe you could pick the blue color and try to soften or blur it. --Ermell 16:02, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose +1.--Peulle 08:23, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support --Moroder 21:59, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Inconclusive result after 8 consensual review days   --Peulle 12:07, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:An-107-Yanarraju.jpg

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  • Nomination AN-107 departmental route in northwestern Peru By User:Lamder --LLs 22:57, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. --Seven Pandas 00:02, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. 960 × 640 is not enough. --Andrew J.Kurbiko 15:03, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Per Andrew. Hard limit. --Smial 08:01, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose 2 megapixels is minimum. --Peulle 08:21, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Too small. --Steindy 14:24, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 16:15, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Mannersdorf_Rochusberg_71.jpg

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  • Nomination Objekt auf dem Rochusberg in Mannersdorf an der March (Niederösterreich). --Manfred Kuzel 05:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose Sensor stripes left and right in the sky. --Steindy 09:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment The camera was from 24.9. until 18.10.2019 at the Nikon-Service. Diagnosis (costs 64.62 €): Camera and sensor in perfect condition. I do not understand why only some, and not all, who rate my photos, find flaws. --Manfred Kuzel 05:35, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Even if the sensor is not the problem, can you not see that there is a problem? Can you not see the stripes in the sky, and that this is abnormal? You keep getting these images declined at CR, is that enough of an indication?--Peulle 08:12, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support I think your only problem are the pixelviewers and they discourage all work on Commons. BTW a perfect photo does not exist and never existed --Moroder 21:56, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 08:16, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Mannersdorf_Rochusberg_70.jpg

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  • Nomination Objekt auf dem Rochusberg in Mannersdorf an der March (Niederösterreich). --Manfred Kuzel 05:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose Sensor stripes in the sky. --Steindy 09:39, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment The camera was from 24.9. until 18.10.2019 at the Nikon-Service. Diagnosis (costs 64.62 €): Camera and sensor in perfect condition. I do not understand why only some, and not all, who rate my photos, find flaws. --Manfred Kuzel 05:42, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Even if the sensor is not the problem, can you not see that there is a problem? Can you not see the stripes in the sky, and that this is abnormal? You keep getting these images declined at CR, is that enough of an indication?--Peulle 08:11, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support I don't understand what "stripes in the sky" means. I guess it is not a technical expression, maybe it is some sick impression of pixelviewers --Moroder 21:53, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 08:16, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Mannersdorf_Rochusberg_67.jpg

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  • Nomination Objekt auf dem Rochusberg in Mannersdorf an der March (Niederösterreich). --Manfred Kuzel 04:28, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality --Llez 04:46, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. Pattern in the sky. Sorry. --Ermell 06:10, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I also think that with the pattern in the sky it shouldn't be promoted. Curious, though. Nikon D5300 is a decent camera. Is it due to some heavy post processing? --Tupungato 07:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment The camera was from 24.9. until 18.10.2019 at the Nikon-Service. Diagnosis (costs 64.62 €): Camera and sensor in perfect condition. I do not understand why only some, and not all, who rate my photos, find flaws. --Manfred Kuzel 14:03, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose This image was shot in March, before the problem was fixed, so of course the photo is getting declined. I think all images shot before the service will have this problem. May I suggest you don't nominate those for QI? They're just filling up QIC and they're all getting declined. I would suggest you start nominating images taken after 18.10.19.--Peulle 07:41, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Once again: The diagnosis has shown that there was no sensor problem that could be resolved !!! --Manfred Kuzel 05:29, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Whatever the cause, you must see that there is a problem; so far, all these images have been declined. Are you the only one who can't see it?--Peulle 08:09, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment I have been looking to your photos and until now I have only seen you install your camera the same way ISO200 en f/11. You are using ISO200 while the sky is beautiful blue, ISO100 is much better. I use ISO200 when it is cloudy and a little bit more light is necessay. Generally a higher ISO gives also more noise. I would use f/11 if the differences between the several objects is very large and f/4 if I want to focus one object (like you mostly do). Just play more with your camera to find out how your camera works. And, yo ucan always look to other people. --Michielverbeek 07:16, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  • * Support I don't see any reason to reject images with ISO 200 on a Nikon camera in any light condition. It obviously gives you the chance to reduce aperture and have a sharper image with no relevant increase of noise. BTW I don't understand what "pattern in the sky" means. I guess it is not a technical expression, maybe it is some sick impression of pixelviewers --Moroder 21:46, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 06:26, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Dassault Falcon 2000, EBACE 2018, Le Grand-Saconnex (BL7C0628).jpg

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  • Nomination Dassault Falcon 2000 on static display at EBACE 2018, Le Grand-Saconnex --MB-one 17:24, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose Sorry! The photo is confusing. The fuselage of the aircraft in the background is too disturbing. Likewise the wing and the elevator. For the main object, the wing end is missing. No good composition IMO. --Steindy 18:27, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
    •  CommentI thought QI is only about the technical quality. --Ermell 06:16, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
      • @Ermell: Technische Qualität des Fotos und ins­besondere Schärfe allein sollten für eine positive Bewertung nicht genügen. Mir schmetterte zum Beispiel jemand kürzlich ein Bild ab, weil es den Eindruck vermittele, das ab­ge­bildete Schiff fahre bergan. Ur­sache für diesen Eindruck war der tiefe Kamera­stand­punkt. -- Spurzem 10:09, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Ermell basically you are right, but is not the image design quality too? If not, we can also tag photos of people who have a head cutting, or cars that have their tires cut off. I myself was recently refused a photo(!) because the foot of a player who was not the main motive was cut off. Stands also in COM:QIC#Composition and lighting. --Steindy 22:02, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose In this case, I agree the background is disturbing. In particular, the horizontal stabilizer.--Peulle 16:33, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per others --GRDN711 19:02, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 06:26, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Taj_Mahal_-Agra_-Uttar_Pradesh-DSC_7827.jpg

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  • Nomination A musical artist playing Veena in front of Taj Mahal. By User:Arunsaha2 --Bodhisattwa 13:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Comment This photo we had at October 10 with the vote "Decline". --Steindy 17:03, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
    • The reasons which were given for declining before have been noted and taken care of. --Bodhisattwa 17:40, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The description is surely better now but I think that the vignetting is a bit too much here --Podzemnik 20:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Sorry but this has way too much vignetting, the colours look unnatural, there are chromatic aberrations on the left and the tower is warped.--Peulle 07:31, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose unausgewogene Bildbearbeitung, das ginge wesentlich besser. --Ralf Roletschek 11:51, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per others, but I also still want to know if this is a composite of more than one photo. -- Ikan Kekek 04:12, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 06:25, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Dormition_and_Refectory_Churches_Lavra.jpg

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  • Nomination Dormition Cathedral and Refectory Church in the Kiev Pechersk Lavra monastery --Domob 14:01, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Exposure somewhat low, but golden tower effect and wide fisheye perspective are great. --Axel Tschentscher 15:21, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Horizon unnaturally arched. Needs correction. Not a QI for me yet. --Milseburg 16:11, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment The curved perspective comes from the stitching projection. I also tried a rectilinear panorama, but to me the current version looked more balanced. --Domob (talk) 07:30, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose - OK, but it looks too weird to me. I haven't always opposed fisheye perspectives, but if it looks too unnatural like this really strong curve for a panorama, I don't think it's the best way to represent a motif. -- Ikan Kekek (talk)
  •  Comment Thanks for the feedback! I've redone the panorama now with a rectilinear projection. Milseburg and Ikan Kekek, what do you think now? --Domob 07:32, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Better, but still bulged. What projection was it before? Btw I´ve found and marked a little stitching problem. --Milseburg 13:21, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
It was equirectangular before. Good catch with the error, should be fixed now. --Domob 15:24, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support - It still looks slightly curvy to me, but I think it's acceptable and a QI. -- Ikan Kekek 18:22, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support per Ikan --Smial 08:12, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Seven Pandas 21:42, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:2019_Dwór_w_Służejowie_1.jpg

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  • Nomination Manor in Słuzejów 1 --Jacek Halicki 07:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Promotion
    Good quality, but I think it would be better without the upper leaves on the left side. --Steindy 12:29, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
     Support The dark green nicely frames the light building and makes the whole image more alife. --Axel Tschentscher 21:34, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment - Same question here: The whites on the upper reaches of the tower look blown to me. -- Ikan Kekek 04:06, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Not to me ;-)--Moroder 17:37, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I stay with it. No good picture composition. I am disturbed by the leaves hanging out of nowhere. --Steindy 14:32, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Seven Pandas 21:42, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:MS_Empress_of_Ottawa.JPG

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  • Nomination Excursion ship Empress of Ottawa. --The Cosmonaut 01:42, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 03:11, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Very unfavorable shadow, no QI for me. Please discuss. -- Spurzem 11:31, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support OK for QI. --A.Savin 13:47, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Main object is hidden in the shadow. Sorry, not quite QI. --Axel Tschentscher 06:42, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Odd lighting. White areas on the bow of the ship are fine but the rest seems too dark. Cropping could be tighter to the ship. IMO overall not QI. --GRDN711 18:41, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Don't see any light problems, even the shadowed parts are well lit, so what?--Moroder 21:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose → Inconclusive result after 8 consensual review days   --Peulle 06:24, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Mannersdorf_Rochusberg_103.jpg

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  • Nomination: Objekt auf dem Rochusberg in Mannersdorf an der March (Niederösterreich). --Manfred Kuzel 03:49, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. --Uoaei1 03:57, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
     OpposeSorry! Sensor pattern on the door. --Steindy 10:05, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
  • stimmt, starke Sensorstörungen. --Ralf Roletschek 20:31, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
  • kann es nicht sein, daß das die Struktur der Blechtür ist? Was anderes sehe ich nicht.--Manfred Kuzel 05:10, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
    • Ich sehe Sensorstörungen, ich bin aber nicht allwissend, deshalb kein Votum von mir. Bitte weitere Minungen. --Ralf Roletschek 20:42, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Steindy. --Peulle 10:05, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support --Moroder 13:56, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
  • The camera was from 24.9. until 18.10.2019 at the Nikon-Service. Diagnosis (cost € 64.62): Camera and sensor in perfect condition. --Manfred Kuzel 13:28, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  • If your camera was on service, two questions arise for me: 1. Is this an authorized service company? 2. Did you include the lens too? Maybe the result of the interaction between the camera and the lens? Anyway, I would complain there immediately and provide as proof of some of these photos. --Steindy 21:25, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Die Kamera wurde von Hartlauer komplett (also samt Objektiv) an Nikon-Service zum Check geschickt und kam von dort mit dem Befund “alles in einwandfreiem Zustand” zurück. Auch an der Nachbearbeitungssoftware kann es nicht liegen, weil ich diese schon immer benutzt habe, die Probleme aber erstmals vor 2 Jahren (zunächst in Einzelfällen, dann immer öfter) aufgetreten sind. Da ich selbst (wie übrigens einige andere Benutzer auch, die zunächst positiv bewertet haben, ehe ein anderer User disqualifiziert hat) bei keinem einzigen der beanstandeten Fotos den Fehler sehen kann, versuche ich nun, die Aufnahmedaten dieser Fotos zu analysieren, weil ich mir nur noch vorstellen kann, daß eine zu hohe ISO zu einem Bildrauschen geführt hat. --Manfred Kuzel 06:12, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Das ist kein Bildrauschen, sondern ein Abbildungfehler, der auch nicht an einer zu hohen ISO-Zahl liegen kann. Ich würde es einmal bei diesem autorisierten Fachservice direkt versuchen, wo Sie die Probleme schildern und zeigen können. So weit weg ist das ja von Ihnen nicht und kann mit einem Ausflug nach Baden oder in die SCS verbunden werden. --Steindy 09:43, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Inconclusive result after 8 consensual review days   --Peulle 06:24, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Review needed

File:Telfs,_Pfarrkirche_Sankt_Peter_und_Paul_Dm64879_IMG_0729_2019-07-30_14.19.jpg

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  • Nomination Telfs in Tyrol, church: Pfarrkirche Sankt Peter und Paul --Michielverbeek 18:49, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Promotion
    Needs perspective correction. --Steindy 20:56, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
    I don't agree. It is acceptable that the verticals are not totally straight when you take a photo from a short distance of such a high building --Michielverbeek 17:46, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
    * In this case, the distance is large enough to require horizontal edges. --Manfred Kuzel 04:29, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
     Comment As said before: the perspective correction should be easy here, Greetings --Dirtsc 07:42, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 Comment The image has already been stretched. With 100% verticals the upper parts get rather unsharp. This can not be avoided. --Smial 14:18, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Weak support then. I agree with Smial that the perspective could not be stretched further without destroying a good image. Greetings --Dirtsc 15:40, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose - Whatever the technical reasons for it, the radically different angles of the crosses on top of the steeples are really bothersome. I can't support this. -- Ikan Kekek 17:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support I agree that we should be less uncompromising when the picture is being taken from below--Moroder 20:20, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
  • I have now unsuccessfully tried to correct the photo. Something is always not exactly right. Therefore  Support. --Steindy 22:45, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment - To me, your efforts show that this shot couldn't have been successful from that distance and angle, not that this level of jarring distortion is acceptable (unless it's done specifically in order to disturb the viewer). -- Ikan Kekek 06:12, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Per Ikan, Tournasol7 19:19, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Not every perspective needs to be corrected. --Axel Tschentscher 06:37, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support völlig ok so, 100%ig vertikal sieht fast jedes Motiv unnatürlich aus. --Ralf Roletschek 11:58, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment - Having the crosses in such different angles is what I'd call unnatürlich. -- Ikan Kekek 04:18, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment - If I would have made the photo from a larger distance I would have seen only the top of the church, so I have tried it like this and nominate it for QI. --Michielverbeek 07:27, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment@Ikan Kekek: Today I had the time to browse through the images in the Category and they (especially this one: File:Telfs 2.JPG) confirmed my suspicion, that the two crosses on the towers in fact don't have the same orientation. So their look in our disputed image is perfectly "natural" ;-) Greetings --Dirtsc 17:39, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support - I also did a wider image search. I'm convinced and end my opposition. -- Ikan Kekek 18:27, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 6 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Peulle 06:23, 22 October 2019 (UTC)