Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives May 20 2022

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Consensual review[edit]

File:Yellow_underwing_(Thyas_coronata)_2.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Yellow underwing (Thyas coronata) --Charlesjsharp 19:24, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Promotion
     Oppose The tips of both wings are blurred and the left antenna is cropped. --Steindy 22:46, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
     Support Valid objections, but good enough to me. -- Ikan Kekek 05:45, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
    Careless crop. New version with full antenna uploaded. Charlesjsharp 08:38, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Weak support Good enough for QI. --Tagooty 03:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Robert Flogaus-Faust 17:31, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

File:Bulgarian_dish_02.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Salad served in a Bulgarian restaurant --Kritzolina 20:19, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Promotion  Support Well done. -- Ikan Kekek 21:32, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
    “Bulgarian salad” is insufficient documentation to be useful in Commons going forward. Overall the image looks muddy and dull and should be lightened to look more appetizing. The ingredients should be identified in the image description. If this salad is a specific Bulgaria delicacy like a Shopska salad‎, it should be identified and categorized as such. --GRDN711 22:33, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
     Comment You may not change the status from "Promotion" to "Nomination". If you want to oppose and change the status to "Discuss," go ahead. -- Ikan Kekek 03:13, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
    Hello Ikan. Sorry, I did not change the status; it was the QIVoter app. As the issues I raised were fixable, I added a comment for the nominator to address. Apparently, when you comment after a support vote has been received, the QIVoter app turns the status back to nominated (blue). Will add this further comment and see if the same thing happens. --GRDN711 18:40, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
     Comment The status returned to nominated, so I put it back. --GRDN711 18:44, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
     Comment That's a really unfortunate bug. Where should the problem be reported? -- Ikan Kekek 21:03, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
     Comment Yes, Tagooty reported it on the discussion page and I added a further note. --GRDN711 16:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
     Oppose Per COM:QIC and to be useful in Commons going forward, image should be lightened (a little fill-in flash would have been helpful). In image description, ingredients should be identified and if this salad is a specific Bulgaria delicacy, it should be identified and categorized as such. --GRDN711 16:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
    •  Comment If rotated slightly CCW, I would support this image. Fill-in flash destroys any food photography in the vast majority of cases. In fact, every photograph, unless the direct flash is used deliberately to achieve a special creative effect. The photo shown is absolutely not underexposed. At most, one could find fault with the fact that the middle image tones could be raised a little (via s-curving), but I don't consider that to be absolutely necessary. --Smial 11:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Support Gut genug. Man kann sich auch totdiskutieren. --Smial 11:54, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Support Good enough. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 20:17, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Comment Agree that s-curve post-processing would raise and separate the muddy middle tones, but this has not been done. Why not?
A further and bigger issue is COM:QIC Image Page Requirements (4) - “Quality images shall have a meaningful file name, be properly categorized and have an accurate description on the file page in one or more languages. It is preferred, but not mandatory, to include an English description.”
I did not eat this salad at a Bulgarian restaurant and no idea what it is. I know that without a clear identification of what is presented in this food dish, it has no future being used for anything. Adding a QI rating is a distinction that will not help it from collecting digital dust at Commons. Again, why not add an accurate description of the dish in the image description? --GRDN711 15:47, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 Comment So you're suggesting that food photography can only become QI in the future if the cooking recipe is included? --Smial 09:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 Comment You are overstating what I am asking for. I am saying that without identification of what is being viewed in this food image, it will have little utility at Commons going forward.
QI review will not accept anyone's pet bird unless the complete classification of species, sub-species, common names and location are given. Per COM:QIC (4), the ingredients of this salad be identified so that a viewer can determine if it has some utility for their project? Further, how would a QI rating help this image gain any further use if you cannot determine what it is? --GRDN711 17:32, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Robert Flogaus-Faust 17:33, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

File:St_Saturnin_church_in_Camburat_(3).jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Saint Saturnin of Toulouse church in Camburat, Lot, France. --Tournasol7 03:22, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Promotion
    Useful if the Description indicates which part of the church is depicted, the angle of view, etc. --Tagooty 03:35, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
    the position of the photographer determines it --Tournasol7 03:51, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
    The filename and Description imply the full church. The image is a specific part of the church. Potential users search based on text keywords. --Tagooty 02:22, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
    Each photo contains information about the photographer's position. The user can easily find out from which side the photo was taken. --Tournasol7 05:14, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Question Why don't you just put the word "tower" in your file description?
 Question Or something like "viewed from west (north,east,south,elsewhere)"? --Smial 11:58, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. --Sebring12Hrs 05:28, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Support -- Johann Jaritz 06:13, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Oppose As per COM:QIC "Quality images shall have a meaningful file name, be properly categorized and have an accurate description on the file page in one or more languages. It is preferred, but not mandatory, to include an English description." This image does not comply. If the description is made accurate, I'll support. --Tagooty 03:24, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Tagooty. I think Tagooty has raised an important point there. I think the reference to the Exif as the only indication of the location is not very friendly to subsequent users. --Smial 12:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Comment Please let's be kind to each other. While I'm very fond of detailed image descriptions, in this case, I do not really miss anything essential. Here, there is a nice series of eight images which allow anybody who loves architecture to "walk" around (half of) the church (assisted by Wikimap). So, I find it much more deplorable that there are no images showing the North and the East side (and the interior). – As I "read" the images (without having done any additional research), the church seems to have a complex history. The medieval building seems to have been oriented to the East (i.e. with the tower and the main entrance in the West, and the apse in the East). In the 19th (or early 20th) century, the church seems to have gotten too small, so a new part was attached on the South side, and the main altar was moved to the North end. That way, the old church was turned into the transept of the new one. – That is (if my understanding is correct), the image shows the SW corner of the new part (in the foreground), the South side of the old nave which equals the South side of what now is the transept, and the narrow side of the tower aka. the side-view of the old facade. – Would this be sufficiently detailed to give you a headache? ;-) – I would be willing to simply say it's self-explaining that we're looking at the tower. -- Martinus KE 14:10, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. Name and description are sufficient in my opinion. --Robert Flogaus-Faust 20:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Promoted   --Robert Flogaus-Faust 21:09, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

File:Rainbow_Lorikeet_eating_Grevillea.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination: Rainbow Lorikeet looking into distance while sitting on Grevillea --Dimitrijemat 22:24, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Review
     Oppose Not sharp enough and too noisy, sorry. --Steindy 22:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  SupportI disagree. Yes, a bit noisy due to the shooting conditions, but fortunately nothing was broken by excessive denoising, and the image sharpness is really more than adequate considering that the full sensor resolution is available and nothing was downscaled. --Smial 11:20, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Support A bit noisy, but good for QI --Charlesjsharp 13:05, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Support -- Johann Jaritz 05:05, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Bad crop, low DOF, noisy. --Kallerna 13:22, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The bird is OK but the blurry plant is distracting. -- Ikan Kekek 03:55, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
    •  Comment If I understand correctly, this is the flower or fruit that the bird is eating from? Then it is part of the composition. --Smial 05:56, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Comment There is no crop "Kallerna", if you bothered to check the sensor resolution of my camera and checked the exif you would see it was taken at max resolution --Dimitrijemat 11:26, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Exactly. Re-crop would be needed. --Kallerna 13:56, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose → Inconclusive result after 8 consensual review days   --Robert Flogaus-Faust 21:06, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

File:Ming_Maoling_Tomb.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination: The Maoling mausoleum where the Chenghua emperor was buried. --Charlie fong 05:50, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Review
  •  Support Good quality. Perhaps you could add a few more categories if there are suitable ones. --Domob 13:12, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Contrast and sharpness may be fixed before approved --Ezarate 23:02, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Inconclusive result after 8 consensual review days   --Robert Flogaus-Faust 21:08, 19 May 2022 (UTC)