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Chiajna Monastery, București
  •  Info created by Mihai Petre - nominated by Strainu -- Strainu (talk) 21:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I'm aware this image is under 2MP, but it is the winner of the Wiki Loves Monuments contest, so I believe it should receive the chance to be reviewed.-- Strainu (talk) 21:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Sure it deserves that chance - please consider providing a higher resolution version and we'll see about it. Regards, PETER WEIS TALK 21:51, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose - far too low resolution. Also, the gradient of the sky in the upper left looks artificial. --Claritas (talk) 00:15, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose IMO, the WLM contest results are a real problem... A lot of awarded pictures in Europe are NOT following the FPC and QIC guidelines...--Jebulon (talk) 13:40, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    How do you think that could be achieved Jebulon? I think from watching the 170 nominees to the European jury there are quite some pictures (20 maybe?) that could be a FP, but these didn't make it that high to the international jury, I believe between the 12 winners there are 1 or 2 FP's, and maybe 3 or 4 could be one. So where does this difference come from? Between the 170.000 pictures there should be some pictures able to reach the FP status, but on the other hand myself I think anything out of the ordinary simple straight forward object on a picture gets it harder on an FP, in a contest you want pictures to win with something caracteristicly, a nice mood. If you've any ideas on this please inform me on them, next year there will be a WLM worldwide, probably that will mean even more pictures, if there are problems with the results (I believe those are mainly on the technical part and being to artistic?) how could we solve those? Also I'd like to know your opinions (to all), on which pictures (from the 170 nominees) you think should have won, and why? I guess doing that discussion here is no option so if you've any opinions you want to share on this which we, the organizers from WLM 2012 could use, please share them with me on my talkpage. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 18:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment As you know I raised this issue here. If only the organisers wouldn't be soo afraid of promoting quality, and soo insistent about quantitative targets, the results could be better. --ELEKHHT 22:19, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I raised exactly the same issue here, as well as in my own country's contest. I hope that next time the national and international organizers finally admit that quantity does not produce automatically quality and act accordingly, limiting the number of photos per user and imposing some minimal quality criteria. Alvesgaspar (talk) 01:11, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well the problem with your suggestion is that limiting the number of photo's simply means that less monuments get illustrated. Allowing somebody to upload a bit less perfect picture doesn't disallow him to upload a more perfect picture. In the Netherlands out of 12.000 images, 8.000 are used on articles on Wikipedia, Andorra got all monuments covered, in total tens of thousands of monuments got a picture, which they didn't have yet. If we would have limited users to only upload 100 pictures each that would've ment only half that much monuments would've got a picture. Another thing is that the high quantity of pictures mainly comes from the more experiences Wikipedians, new users were allready a bit more picky in what to upload, and wonderful pictures have come across, ok they are not 165.000 quality images, but that's simply impossible. I believe that forbidding to upload a certain picture wont make people upload more pictures of another kind. I think improvements can be made, but on the field of which pictures win the contest in the end, because indeed it seems logical that the 100 best pictures overall should be able to make it as a FP, or at least a big part of those. The pictures suitable for FP are between the uploaded pictures, but seeing the nominations they don't yet end up that much as winners. I think over there we can win something, but disallowing uploads seems ridicule to me, I'm sorry. But improvements on what gets picked in the end could be made, and exact plans for that would be welcome. You guys simply calling out that the contest is crap wont be of any use. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 22:14, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per Jebulon.. looking to the results of thw WLM contest for Romania ro:Wikipedia:WLM.. I find that these images cannot have success to FPC and some of them neither to QIC.. the winner of this contest is too over-processed/kitsch.. and all these HDR / over saturation effects makes the images not useful for wikipedia.. I have the feeling that an image in order to be used in a wikipedia article has to be with neural colors, without heavily artistic effects that make distortions to the colors, high HDR etc. Ggia (talk) 14:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not linked to the proposal in any way, but please, keep in mind that WLM is mainly a free photo contest, not necessarely a "photos for Wikipedia" contest. Also see the last bullet of my message here--Strainu (talk) 21:30, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vorbesc si limba romana ;-) dar o-sa scriu in limba engleza aici (=I speak also romanian lanuage ;-) but I will write in english here). Me as a photographer I like shooting b&w film since 1993 and I have a lot of images published in my blog [1]. The images that I publish in commons, I publish them because I think they can used somehow in wikipedia project (they are not the same with the images I publish in my blog). If a photographic contest is running.. I suppose that the goal of a contest should be the images to have some encyclopedic value and to be used in the wikipedia. These images should not be extreme processed or have distortions in the colors in order to illustrate a encyclopedic article. Ggia (talk) 15:00, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 3 support, 7 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 18:25, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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