Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:La Vierge au voile, by Raffaello Sanzio, from C2RMF retouched.jpg/1

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File:La Vierge au voile, by Raffaello Sanzio, from C2RMF retouched.jpg, not featured[edit]

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  •  Info created by Raphael - uploaded by Dcoetzee - nominated by Claus -- Claus (talk) 16:36, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Claus (talk) 16:36, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment -- Looks to me a copy of the VintPrint poster. The restoration is not documented and it looks pretty inauthentic to me. I really can't support this. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 21:44, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • A copy of the VintPrint poster??? Please see the source or the filename.--Claus (talk) 02:33, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Coat, I'd be willing to bet my house that VintPrint downloaded the full image from here and is marketing prints derived from (if not the exact same as) this file. I know DCoetzee's work, and I know how exacting he can be (check out his upload of the Mona Lisa). This file is definitely from C2RMF. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:30, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • Your house safe with me, Chris. It still looks like the VintPrint poster. It doesn't look like a Raphael to me (here's a reference image the great DCoetzee no doubt examined while researching his restoration). No way I'm ever going to vote for this poster reproduction. I don't think it satisfies the guidelines regarding the documentation of restorations and shouldn't be nominated until it does.
          • Doing the research I see it really isn't by Raphael (not found in a search on his name in the Louvre database), but by a pupil, thus 'school of' which should be in the title. On reflection clear enough because the fabulously expensive Ultramarine from lapis lazuli that Raphael did use, which darkens with age, evidently hasn't been used here. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 14:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
            • This source agrees, although it suggests that the composition was Raphael's (not the actual painting). As for "poster reproduction"... are you still saying Dcoetzee scanned a poster and claimed it came from C2RMF? That's a pretty serious accusation. Or do you take issue with the fact that this file has been used as a poster, an issue which could be raised for most good art scans here? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:54, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
              • Lighten up. I don't like this image and I'm just commenting on it (and not opposing) giving my reasons. The Louvre agrees it's not Raphael. Why C2RMF says it is, is their problem. The Commons file description certainly should indicate that and BTW offer a lot more by way of description. Not a work by a major artist. What's the historical interest exactly? I'm saying it looks like a poster. I'm giving an example of a poster it looks like. Can't be fairer that that. Few posters I've seen that don't come from art museums (and not a few that do) bother themselves about faithfulness to the original. DCoetzee can relax. Me at least, I'm not planning to sue him (honest). I do wish he would share how he gets at these IIP images. Cheers. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 17:02, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    VintPrint.com actually making a business out of Commons images I notice. This page has the David above (Napoleon) as well as the wholly inauthentic Vermeer (Girl With A Pearl Earring), a Featured Picture I've been complaining about elsewhere (far too dark and cropped at the right). Coat of Many Colours (talk) 19:55, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    "I'm saying it looks like a poster." - Thank you for clarifying. I'm sure that you recognize the ambiguity of "poster reproduction", which could have been "reproduction like a poster" or "reproduction of a poster", which is why I asked for clarification. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:19, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support - I love this image and the resolution it's in. Perhaps not as famous as the Mona Lisa, but to me the painting is well composed and interesting. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:31, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Great! Very high resolution of a nice painting, even if Raphael himself didn't make it, it is FP for me. Yann (talk) 09:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- Totally sucks. There I've said it. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 17:02, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Great! Very high resolution of a nice painting - as per Yann. --Hafspajen 07:33, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 4 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /A.Savin 22:08, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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