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•  Info Portrait of a girl (the same as in this FP, taken nine years ago). All by Alvesgaspar (talk) 09:29, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 09:29, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support I had already noticed this image -- Christian Ferrer ^Talk 10:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support --Cayambe (talk) 11:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Comment Nice portrait, but I would crop the right to use the rule of third. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:37, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Oppose This is a really nice image, and I am really sorry that I have to oppose, but it looks as if she would paint her face. --Uoaei1 (talk) 15:19, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support People at work > my favorite theme. Jee 15:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support Inês continues to rock FP. Great composition. --Slaunger (talk) 17:29, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support A very meaningful portrayal of a juvenile girl. The composition, as Slaunger already pointed out, is great as her expression.
   Question Alvesgaspar, was it a spontaneous shot or was it carefully arranged? --Tuxyso (talk) 17:44, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

•  Info -- It was one of some ten spontaneous shots. With this one I (we) got lucky. Only the framing was later carefully adjusted. That is why I don't agree with Yann above :) -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 18:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

•  Comment spontaneous or not, I like the composition. There's a strong diagonal from the diagonal roof (?) in the top right corner along her left eye → nose → brush → wrist → foot. It's symmetrical (distances from the points where it crosses the image border at the top and bottom to the nearest corner are more or less the same) and it has the brush right in the center. Forcing that into a rule of thirds composition (head at the upper right intersection, I guess?) may totally kill it. --El Grafo (talk) 08:43, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

•  Support --Böhringer (talk) 06:22, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Oppose Nice picture but composition flaw: I don’t like the brush to cover part of the face. --Kreuzschnabel (talk) 06:55, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support composition is unusual but by no means bad! --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 08:15, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support I actually like the fact she's kinda hiding behind the brush. In combination with the look on her face it almost looks like she's up to some kind of rebellion: Take this, crusty old world! I'm gonna take it into my own hands. I'm gonna paint you in my colors, and you're gonna be new and shiny! ;-) Love it! --El Grafo (talk) 08:25, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support --Halavar (talk) 10:50, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Oppose Per others. --Yikrazuul (talk) 18:01, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
•  SupportThe unconventional pose works well in this case for me. Diliff (talk) 12:21, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
•  OpposeThe unconventional pose does not work well in this case for me. Sorry, it looks too much artificial and... "posed", I'd prefer something more spontaneous. Very appealing dark eyes, however !--Jebulon (talk) 14:26, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
  •  Question@Jebulon: . Regarding the feeling that the photo is posed and not very spontaneous, I came to think of that he have many FPs of very staged/posed portraits, especially of notable historic people (and I think you like a lot of those). Why is it OK that these historic photos are staged, but one of a comtemporary, non-notable person it is not? For me, it is a little like Culture sélective des plantes (spontaneous) vs Génie génétique (posed). You can sometimes get lucky with the first, and it sounds for sure good, in the latter case it is under control, and more deterministic (but it does not sound good), and if you know the end goal you can get a good result with skill and work. -- Slaunger (talk) 18:44, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
  •  Info@Slaunger: Sorry in advance for bad english. There is "pose" and "pose". This is an "assumed " pose, in an official context, idem for the two other examples you quoted, and all the three has a special value (age, historical, technical, restoration, rare, value of models etc...), from a time when there was no other possibility for taking pictures of persons. I am not the photographer, and I did not nominate these pictures because of "pose". I did not try to attract the support votes with "pose", and even not, in some way, with artificial built composition. IMO, one of the main merits of the Ines picture is in the "pose", and I feel a bit embarrassed with this. That's why, IMO, there is no comparison possible between the picture of Ines and the one of Berlioz.--Jebulon (talk) 19:43, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
    • @Jebulon: Thanks for the explanation, and just to clarify, my question was not meant as a criticism of neither your vote here and the objectives for nominating pictures of historic notable persons, I just started wondering what you perceived what the difference in poses there and here. The only thing I still do not entirely understand, is your comment about "...one of the main merits of the Ines picture is in the "pose", and I feel a bit embarrassed with this." Do you mean that in this case the pose is 'too much', 'not fitting' for the type of subject, or something completely different? Just trying to understand... --Slaunger (talk) 19:54, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
  • @Slaunger: For sure you noticed that it happens that I may be sometimes a little..."upset", but no need to be so careful with me, my friend. I did not perceived any criticism in your questions, and if any, it is your full right to criticize ! The answer of your question is, I think, in my first comment: it looks too much artificial, and I'd like something more spontaneous, something catched "à la volée". This is not the case.--Jebulon (talk) 20:07, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
    • @Jebulon: I understand now, thanks! -- Slaunger (talk) 20:36, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Oppose Per Kreuzschnabel and Jebulon, Poco² 18:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Oppose per other opposers, sorry. --Ivar (talk) 07:58, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support -- Lauro Sirgado^contribs 00:47, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support I like the composition with the partly hidden face and the actual crop! Very nice shot! --mathias K 10:03, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
•  Support --Michael Gäbler (talk) 12:44, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Confirmed results:

Result: 14 support, 6 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Christian Ferrer ^Talk 04:46, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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