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File:European Otter.jpg, not featured[edit]
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Info created by Michael Gäbler - uploaded by Michael Gäbler - nominated by Michael Gäbler -- Michael Gäbler (talk) 01:19, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Support -- Michael Gäbler (talk) 01:19, 27 January 2010 (UTC)- Support much better then the other one! good composition and nice light... --Leviathan (talk) 10:18, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Comment I agree it is much better than your first otter attempt. The light is interesting and good and so is the action with the otter eating the fish. At first I actually was in doubt if it was a wild life shot, but then I realized it is from Wisentgehege Springe. As I understand this is not a traditional zoo but somewhat a wildlife park, where the animals are in semi-real environments with quite a lot of space? One thing I noticed which I found a little unnatural was the extra little fish in front of the otter. Is that because it has been thrown in to feed it, or did it actually catch it on its own? Next, I think the fur of the otter looks very peculiar near the head and ear, especially the brighter areas. It looks almost like paint strokes. For me the texture of the fur seem like an unnatural artifact from a not so well done combined noise reduction and sharpening, but I could be wrong and as it could also be partially due to wet fur? Has any postprocessing been done? --Slaunger (talk) 21:04, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
- Slaunger, thank you for your great interest. Yes, the Wisentgehege Springe is a game reserve, where the animals are in semi-real environments with more space than in a traditional zoo. But the animals cannot go hunting in this game reserve, the rangers feed them. I saw, this European Otter got at each feeding five fishes thrown by the ranger onto the frozen see, where the European Otter is now lying. The European Otter has a very large winter coat like a too large cloak. It is hanging in folds, when he is lying on the ground. But he needs the large coat when he is going (look this image). I did not change the fur and the folds of this European Otter, this is naturally, of course.--Michael Gäbler (talk) 01:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Neutral Hi Michael. Thank you for adressing my questions and clarifying some of my doubts. I'm torn on this one. Pro: Good catch of an Otter in an interesting eating situation in an environment which is not as obvious zoo-like as many other photos of animals in captivity. Good composition and light and colors. Con (and after reading a little bit about the natural behavior of European Otters, e.g., here) it seems like it only hunts at night in its natural environment, that it would eat small prey, like the small fish in the front, while in the water, (larger prey like the fish it is eating could be dragged on land). At daytime it would typically be in its den. So, the whole setup does not seem to illustrate natural behavior of this animal, but a staged behavior inherent to captivity. We have two other otter FPs (although none of the European Otter), File:Sea-otter-morro-bay 13.jpg of a sea otter is my favorite with a great composition, and it is a wild life shot. We also have the lovely File:LutraCanadensis fullres.jpg, which is a zoo-shot, but where it is not apparent from the photo that it is a zoo shot. I do not qute think the nominated image is on par with these due to the behavior aspects. --Slaunger (talk) 11:50, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- Slaunger, thank you for your great interest. Yes, the Wisentgehege Springe is a game reserve, where the animals are in semi-real environments with more space than in a traditional zoo. But the animals cannot go hunting in this game reserve, the rangers feed them. I saw, this European Otter got at each feeding five fishes thrown by the ranger onto the frozen see, where the European Otter is now lying. The European Otter has a very large winter coat like a too large cloak. It is hanging in folds, when he is lying on the ground. But he needs the large coat when he is going (look this image). I did not change the fur and the folds of this European Otter, this is naturally, of course.--Michael Gäbler (talk) 01:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Oppose Quality - badly posterized. The subject itself is very good, and the lightning is superp! —kallerna™ 16:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)- Support Nice composition and light. Calandrella (talk) 17:28, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose The face is badly posterized. If you haven't done the processing, then perhaps it was your camera trying to do noise reduction + sharpening by itself. Unfortunately this wrecked the result, so if this is the case I'd look into your camera settings. --99of9 (talk) 09:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
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Result: 3 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 05:56, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
