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Moving shredder to tillage[edit]

Hi Snowmanradio your change in Tillage (was Shredder) is wrong. The images that I uploaded as shredder and you have put in Tillage show a machine which shreds grass, wood, and any organic stuffs which are above the soil. This machine in Italian is named trinciaresidui, trinciatutto, ecc. This is not the same as Rotary tillers because it does not till the ground but it does the same things as Image:Tree shredder 14m07.JPG. So, the name is shredder.

Shredders can be used for many purposes: in gardening but also in agriculture for works in place the true tillage (as sod-seeding or no tillage or zero tillage). Please read en:No-till farming: with these techniques shredders must be used to cleaning the soil surface before the seeding and in the ochards. So, I think the Shredder article must be categorized in machine but also tillage machine. Regards --gian_d 18:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was puzzled by the Italian words in the article. Snowmanradio 14:17, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not problem  :-) See you --gian_d 15:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Image Tagging Image:Ryton_pools_lake_28a07.JPG[edit]

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Whoops, I forgot to add the licience tag. I took the photo and now I have added a suitable licience tag. Snowmanradio 18:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Use of {{Badname}}[edit]

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I have just uploaded the identical photo again after renaming it. Snowmanradio 18:23, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Coventry_university_26l07.JPG[edit]

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I was in a hurry, but I have put a copyright tag on it now. Snowmanradio 16:19, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Groumfy 19:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding it. I uploaded it before I learnt about badname files. Snowmanradio 09:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi![edit]

Just to let you know, I'm a Coventry resident (Alselly, or however it's spelt) - if you need any help, with anything, give me a shout! 90.195.63.77 20:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please log in to wiki commons. You can choose your own username and a password. If you do this you will have your own userpage, and a talk page where messages can be left. Snowmanradio 08:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image Tagging Image:House sparrow I IMG 4529o.jpg[edit]

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Uploaded in error, I have uploaded another with different name. Snowmanradio 15:58, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image Tagging Image:White-breasted Waterhen I IMG 1026o.jpg[edit]

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I have so many files that I uploaded this one in error. Please delete this image. Snowmanradio 12:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help with my english[edit]

I wil create new categories I need help with my english description of it, can you correct this, please?:


Category:Cooling towers of Temelín Nuclear Power Station without other buildings

In this category are cooling towers of en:Temelín Nuclear Power Station but only the images where only the cooling towers can be seen, no other buildings. Here belongs also images where only vapor of Temelín can be seen. All images in this category are the placed also in the category above.

/I mean in both categories Temelín Nuclear Power Station and cooling wowers .../ --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 15:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Category:Cooling towers and buildings of Temelín Nuclear Power Station

In this category are cooling towers of en:Temelín Nuclear Power Station including images with other buildings. All images in this category are the placed also in the category above.

/I mean in both categories Temelín Nuclear Power Station and cooling wowers .../


Category:Buildings of Temelín Nuclear Power Station

In this category are buildings of en:Temelín Nuclear Power Station but only images where are no cooling towers. All images in this category are the placed also in the category above.


Thanks --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 15:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you use just one category? How many pictures do you have? Snowmanradio 15:51, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is here Category:Temelín Nuclear Power Station ; but I want to load new images. --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 15:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that when an image is in a subcat it can be removed from the cat. I see that you currently have images in "info centre of TNPS" and the main cat, which is duplication. I think that you could have a cat "Building of Temelin Nuclear Power Station" and "Cooling towers of Temelin Nuclear Power Station" and Panoramic views of Temelin Nuclear Power Station". When pictures have mostly been moved out of "Temelin Nuclear Power Station", there will fewer there and you might not need the "Panoramic views of TNPS" cat. Snowmanradio 16:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

JMGarg category and sub-category[edit]

As far as I am aware, there is no need to put photos in both a category and a sub-category. I think that just the sub-category will suffice. So for birds, this means that the photos are put in the species category, and not in the genus category, and not in both categories. The species category is made a sub-category of the genus category. . .. Snowmanradio 14:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi I have been assisting JM Garg with his categories and subcategories. It was I, actually who did the 143 species of birds and Butterfly categories. All he had done was create a category with no links at all. It took me three days to edit and find the appropriate bird families.What I (and he I think) am doing when it works out is that the Family Category links to a higher order bird category and the species category links to Birds of India and the Family Category. So there is a method to my madness. I agree with you totally though in principle, the species category should actually be a photo gallery article not a category and there should be no duplication but they were all there before I tried to organize things.. WayneRay 18:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)WayneRay[reply]
The species category can link to both the higher bird categories and to species of India categories. The genus categories are potentially going to get very crowded, if all the species are going to be in the genus cat as well. I am puzzled about what you are saying about galleries. I will look-up the commons guidelines. I have also put dozens of his pictures in species categories (not general categories), but I have been putting them in the species cat and removing the watermark. Snowmanradio 09:37, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It won't be too crowded in the Genus Categories if people would stop putting images in there and only list the species galleries or species categories in them. In a gallery there is room for text and names or explanations, one cannot do this in a category, I think the species should be in galleries because of the added information available. I have been working in Botony and horticulture mainly as well as Canadian History, if you go to one of the pages I have done you will see what I mean by the gallery set up List of communities in Newfoundland and Labrador is one example where identification can be long or short or Measured seeds, whereas Category:Boy Scouts of America Troop 6 EHAFB Newfoundland there is no way to label the photos. It is the same with Garg's Birds. He said he doesnt know much about the wiki system and that is why all are in Categories not galleries. Does this make sense? I have made a few organizing mistakes and will go back sometime and try to make things right. WayneRay 14:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)WayneRay[reply]
The "measured seeds" cat system looks ok, where is a system of cats and galleries. If there is no time to make galleries, why duplicate cats and subcats? I have not looked up the wiki style yet on the commons. Snowmanradio 17:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK here is what I think, Mr. Garg and other new uploaders of images, are placing photos in two categories instead of one and thus the duplication. There should not be two sets and sometimes three sets of the same image. The image/photo should be in either a Gallery (which takes time to create) or a sub-category. The subcat should be linked to a higher order Category and there should not be a image there at all. When I came upon Mr. Gargs Birds and Butterflies, there were hundreds of images already placed in species categories and family categories thus being duplicates, and they linked to nothing else but themselves as he was new to this system and didn't know the linking strategy. I tried to explain this to him and it worked for a bit but now he is back at having images in a Cat and a subcat. At least now he is finding the Order or major Family Category and not leaving things unconnected. He takes photos so fast that it would be impossible to convert the subcats to Galleries or delete the duplicate images from the Cats. I am helping three other new people as well and it takes away from my interests but I hope to get it all cleaned up soon. Hope I havent confused you LOL WayneRay 21:50, 20 November 2007 (UTC)WayneRay[reply]
We are lucky to have such a treasure of photographs. Snowmanradio 23:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Coventry railway station concourse2 4m08.JPG[edit]

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Whoops forgot the license tag. I have added one now. Snowmanradio 20:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image renaming[edit]

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Ok, I see the changes that you made after my edits on the parrot image. Does the badname file get deleted? Snowmanradio 15:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
After replacing the image in all uses, it was deleted now. --GeorgHH • talk   10:30, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Ara glaucogularis -upper body front.jpg[edit]

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I was sorting out writing the details when this message arrived. Details completed now. Snowmanradio 19:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: flic to commons bot[edit]

Thanks for the remark, I'll look into it this weekend. -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image Tagging Image:White-eyed Conure (Aratinga leucophthalmus) -on a corner2.jpg[edit]

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I was doing the details when this message arrived. I have done the details now. Snowmanradio 11:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Southern Ground-hornbill (Bucorvus leadbeateri) -side upper body.jpg[edit]

I think you will find that the current version of Image:Southern Ground-hornbill (Bucorvus leadbeateri) -side upper body.jpg is a cropped copy with no black border. The wiki server caches the old version, so you may see thumbnails (including the main image page) for a while. I cannot find a way to reliably clear this cache. You can always display the current version from the link in the File history - [1] in this case. Finavon 07:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is taking a long time to clear. It shows a border on some pages today. Snowmanradio 10:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Royal Spoonbill (Platalea regia) -Fogg Dam2.jpg[edit]

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This notice is not warranted about 1 minute after it was uploaded. I was just writing the details when this notice arrived. There is a problem with this bot giving these notices too early after an upload. Snowmanradio 13:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Really sorry, seems that people like playing with my script without asking or without my consensus -.-' The message above was let by User:ABFbot not by Filbot. And yes, my bot will wait 10 minutes after checking (ABFbot seems not). Bye, --Filnik\b[Rr]ock\b!? 14:09, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I have left at message at the bot you suggest. Snowmanradio 14:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've already spoken (via chat) with the user above. He will use the same command as mine in future, sorry again. --Filnik\b[Rr]ock\b!? 14:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps, your conversation could be more open and written on the talk pages, so that we all know what it going on. These "secret messages" will not help the ordinary editor doing their usual uploads in their usual way and getting a suprise message today. Snowmanradio 14:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was just going to let you know the same thing. :) Anyway, the exchange of words was probably done via Commons' IRC channel which is a pretty standard way to communicate with other users. Rocket000 20:00, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

Image:Funchal Botanical garden - Voliere IMG 1836.JPG, Image:Funchal Botanical garden - Voliere IMG 1859.JPG Hi Snowmanradio, I thank You for identification of this pictures. --Hedwig Storch 18:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was easy. I wonder if you could upload them again and give them a name like "Bird Name (Binomial bird-name) Funchal Botanical garden.jpg". The unnamed images can then be deleted. Snowmanradio 18:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Have you got any more pictures of them to upload. Snowmanradio 18:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

deprecated function in your monobook.js[edit]

Dear user, I noticed that you use the includePage function in "your monobook.js" page.

This function is now obsolete, as the importScript function was introduced with rev:35064 to the MediaWiki Javascript core library wikibits.js. It also keeps track of already imported files.

To allow us to remove includePage from Mediawiki:Common.js I'd kindly ask you to replace its use with importScript (same syntax!). Thanks! --Dschwen 17:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Mary Arden's House[edit]

Thanks for the message - I visited the house at the weekend and the "new" Mary Arden House was open with much discussion about its recent (2000) discovery as the real house. The house in the image was indeed called Mary Arden's house for over 200 years until recently when they found out they had the wrong one! this has now been re-named Palmer's Farm. With a bit of luck the real house was next door and the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust had bought it in the 1960s as part of an adjacent farm without known the true provenance. I have the latest published guide book (The Shakespeare Houses The Official Guide) which confirms all the details. I forgot to take a picture of the new house!! so I will try and get back sometime and get an image I can upload. MilborneOne 22:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fascinating. Snowmanradio 14:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Port Lincoln Parrot[edit]

Hi and thanks for your message. Unfortunately, i don't have better pictures for the moment (my others pictures are blurred). However, i can try to take more pictures of this bird next week. Guérin Nicolas (messages) 10:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and thanks for the message. I also download the following pictures of Aratinga auricapilla:

Such parrot species has no article and no category yet, if you are interested to create them... Guérin Nicolas (messages) 09:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Categories and a page for the gallery now made. The ringneck is on the en wiki page. Snowmanradio (talk) 10:49, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Licensing[edit]

The image you cropped of the Twenty eight had a multi license, when you create a derivative you need to retain the same licensing. Also I suggest next time that you ask the creator first to provide a crop, especially of an image that had just been uploaded. Gnangarra 01:04, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

note this nomination of the cropped version. Gnangarra 10:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The licensing was an option in the semi-automated software specially written for derivative works, so I doubt if it is wrong. It is a good picture. All wiki contributors should be aware that there work may be modified or edited. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Image Tagging "Image:War_Memorial_Park_-Leamington_Rd_-1j08.jpg"[edit]

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Whoops, forgot to add copyright, so added. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Parrots[edit]

Hello, already have photographs of my parrots, please do not change with photoshop or if you use outside the wikipedia put my name in photography. Parrot photographs

Sorry but I don't speak English very good --Juan Caparrós (talk) 14:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quite good photographs. The attribution of the your work can be stipulated depending on the license you choose. The license allows certain freedoms and you can not insist that the images uploaded to commons are not modified. Any modified images will need to provide attribution to you, provided that the original license that you chose stipulated this. It will be appreciated if you could upload some more photographs of these parrots showing different views. There are not many photographs of the St Vincents, the black cockatoo, or the Jardine on commons, so more of these will be especially welcome. Snowmanradio (talk) 15:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Loridiademe.gif[edit]

Hello. Can you please explain why you believe this image to be a copyvio? Thanks, Cirt (talk) 08:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I found it on a website, as I explained in the IfD nomination. Snowmanradio (talk) 09:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


deletion request Image:Southwellnave.jpg[edit]

Hi, this image was taken from en.wikipedia where you could see the same grey rectangle. I think it was something in the church, perhaps a screen for projections, you can realize two thin slats which are fixing the screen. --Ceterum censeo capitalismum esse delendam (talk) 20:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see it now. It still looks odd. It looks like it is going to be kept from the current discussion? I think that it would be worth mentioning the screen in the image description. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biter[edit]

The point of that identification was specifically for that bird - do you really have to have every image with the latin name? is that really necessary? surely the category handles the issue? I would have no problem if it was the only image in that category - but considering the range of images available - it seems unnecessarily pedantic SatuSuro (talk) 09:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for uploading the image, which is appreciated. Actually, it is a policy that images have descriptive names. Images on commons are used across many different language wikis, and so the binomial name will always have meaning. I see it as being practical and following the guidelines. Snowmanradio (talk) 09:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can see your reasoning - and will probably follow your advice in almost all cases - thanks for the comments - but I can imagine in some cases some items I will utilise eccentric titles and I will where done so - I probably try provide a reason for doing so within the description to explain why - which no doubt the babel device can help with the understanding - cheers SatuSuro (talk) 13:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The bot does not know that I have asked for it to be deleted because it is a duplicate. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:17, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyrighted Material[edit]

I noticed you are posting a lot of copyrighted material (images) to Wikipedia. It is my understanding images with signatures, and especially copyright symbols, are not allowed. For example the Red-billed Pigeon, among others. Tom Friedel tom@birdphotos.com Wikipedia Tomfriedel Tomfriedel (talk)

I have only uploaded images with an appropriate copyright. I assume that you are refering to the image "Image:Patagioenas flavirostris -Costa Rica-8.jpg" of a "Red-billed Pigeon". With regard to this "Red-billed Pigeon" image, the documentation for the uploaded page confirms that the image is (or was) on flickr with a creative commons licence, and this it beyond dispute. The documentation of the copyright on flickr is added automatically by the semi-automated flicker uploading software. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:15, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am one of the team working on the en wiki WikiProject Birds that have collaborated with you about your flickr images, which I understand you gave us permission to use on the wiki by changing the licences for us. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How did this person give us permission? I thought you were talking about the images from Michael Woodruff? The copyright signatures in the images are fine, but would probably be better removed. I've stopped removing them because he prefers them kept, but he has given us the right to modify the images so many will probably be removed over time. There is a huge backlog for watermarked images though. Richard001 (talk) 23:05, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for putting my right, because for a moment, I thought that he was Michael Woodruff using a different log in name, but I now think that it is someone completely different. I have asked at the help desk to get OTIS tags organised for the images that he is uploading from his own website. I think some of his uploads need to have categories as binomial names. On reflection, I think he is a new user, getting to know the ropes. Snowmanradio (talk) 23:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The copyright symbol is another of the problems with watermarks, in that it gives the impression the image is not copyleft. For OTRS he should just be able to say 'anything on this site' or something like that (he could put the ones he wants to release somewhere specific), or he could just add license info on his site perhaps. Richard001 (talk) 23:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The above has been sorted out ant the file above has been kept. Snowmanradio (talk) 23:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bird videos v Videos of Psittaciformes[edit]

Hi Snowman, I'm a bit baffled by the change of category on these parrot-clips, Richard001 asked me to add them to his "Bird video" one and now we have a new one, are you both in agreement with this? If so I'm OK with it, just like to know what's happening. Aviceda (talk) 02:42, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are not two categories there is a category and a subcategory, and the subcategory is listed on page 2. There are over 200 in the Bird videos and it will help of the very large category was sub-divided into more subcategories. A file should not appear in both the directory and subdirectory, so I have removed the parrots from the Bird videos category, which makes it smaller and easier to view. I think that the very large cat could be divided into more smaller subcategories. Snowmanradio (talk) 09:16, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks,just wanted to know what was happening, good-work. Aviceda (talk) 18:03, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A few comments. Firstly, naming (fairly minor). The two categories use a different word order. I imitated the parent category, Wildlife videos when I made the birds subcategory (along with several other taxa, e.g. mammals). I think we should try to have a consistent style, so either 'Psittaciformes videos' or 'videos of birds'. There's also the use of English common names vs. scientific names. Most English speakers would be more familiar with parrot than Psittaciformes. If we use the common name 'bird' for the parent category, we should use the common name 'parrot' for the subcat unless there is a rationale for changing. In this case, non-English speakers may be more likely to know what Psittaciformes means, whereas bird is a more basic word that they may be familiar with even if they only know a little English. I'm not really sure what to do here. For now I have simply added the word 'parrot' in a brief English description, which will allow anyone searching for parrot videos to find it easily.
Next, there's the problem that the subcategory isn't visible on the first page. This is a very annoying feature of MediaWiki (even if there's only one subcategory, it will be hard to find if there are 1000 files in it), which I think should be changed. I've had to force it onto the first page for now. Also, it was only included in one parent category, the bird videos one. It is rare that only one parent category can be found; in this case the other parent category is Category:Psittaciformes, which I have also added.
I'm a little confused about what a 'parrot' is. At Wikipedia the terms parrot and Psittaciformes are synonymous, which here parrot redirects to Psittacidae. I'm also unclear why we have a category:parrots, which seems to exist solely as a parent for Category:Parrots in art (which, weirdly, is also in the Psittaciformes category!). Richard001 (talk) 22:37, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is some abysmal category systems on commons, and there has been for a long time. The category parrots seems to be used by beginners, so I think it is better to leave it there. It is easy to tidy up from time to time and put the parrots in the proper categories. I think that your attempt to be consistent with the videos is good; however, to be consistent with Psittaciformes the parent category should be called "Aves vidoes". I was wondering what to call it and I might have called it "Psittaciforme videos" as well. If a subcategory system for the bird videos was better defined then, there would not be over 200 videos in one cat. Bird videos will be much easier to search when there are substantially less than 200 videos in the "Bird video" cat with the majority being placed in subcategories. It is fairly obvious that the bird video category needed to have subcategories and I have made a start. Snowmanradio (talk) 23:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help[edit]

I'd just like to thank you for your hard work on getting free images of birds ;) Please keep it up! Best regards, --Kanonkas(talk) 15:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:Amazona farinosa -upper body -Elmwood Park Zoo-6.jpg[edit]

Sorry for this mistake, and making it twice... ;-) - Erik Baas (talk) 16:02, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would not have made any difference, the border could only have been removed once. Snowmanradio (talk) 16:07, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Capitalisation of the first letter in the table does not make any difference. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Famous parrot[edit]

Image:Kaka -Stewart Island-1c.jpg

Hi there!

Your photo has sparked a discussion (for some reason) about what the bird is eating. Looks like capsicum to me. Do you remember? If so, could you kindly post a response & end the speculation? Cheers! Mattopaedia (talk) 14:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did not upload it, I just cropped it to fit in a table on en wiki. All these details are in the image description. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:51, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Video formats at Flickr[edit]

One thing you can try is just getting the uploader to email it to you. If I find an easy way to do it I'll let you know, and update our documentation. For now I still have no video uploads from Flickr... Richard001 (talk) 04:40, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I have found a way: DownloadHelper, a Firefox extension. There are other Flash rippers out there but I can't install programs that require an administrator's account myself in my present situation. Luckily I can install Firefox extensions, which is really quite a simple way of doing this, and it seems to work. I'll update Commons:Flickr once I've uploaded some videos from there. Richard001 (talk) 08:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have used it to change the format to avi or mpeg, but these are formats that do not upload on commons. Snowmanradio (talk) 12:17, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
See the updated documentation at Commons:Flickr images. The site I was using to convert is down, but there was another one listed. You can also download and install a program to convert them (I have one on my home PC, but haven't really learned how to use it). Richard001 (talk) 03:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Piratpartiet2010.jpg[edit]

Hi, do you know which photo File:Piratpartiet2010.jpg is based upon? Regards, --Kjetil_r 12:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Fillongley cross roads 1a07.JPG taken by me on 1 April 2007 in Warwickshire, England. It has been modified with writing in Swedish that I do not understand. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Banded Imperial-pigeon[edit]

Hi, would you take a look at the reference image on en:Banded Imperial-pigeon, file:Banded Imperial-pigeon (Ducula zoeae).jpg, this looks like a en:Spotted Dove File:Spotted Dove I- Puri IMG 9243.jpg. I just added the 2 images in the gallery.

Thank you. Rename under way. See also discussion prompted by your observation at WP:Birds talk page: bird 157. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:47, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Piranga olivacea[edit]

Thanks for uploading File:Piranga olivacea -perching-8.jpg. However, in my opinion the id is wrong, as I believe it is a Brazilian Tanager, Ramphocelus bresilius, which happens to be similarly coloured. JMK (talk)

Thank your for the polite notice. I was only the technician for this upload. It was identified here, see bird 148. Looking at the images, I think you are probably correct. I do not know much about this bird, so I will ask others again. Rethink is here and I perhaps someone will confirm what you say. Snowmanradio (talk) 19:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion of file File:Piranga olivacea -perching-8.jpg is under way, and link will turn red when file is deleted. Re-uploaded to File:Ramphocelus bresilius -zoo-8a.jpg. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Firecrest -roadkill-8.jpg[edit]

Curious, why you are so insistent on the formulation of the file name? "it is easier to read with some spacing" - maybe, but not in combination space followed by a hyphen, that's rather confusing, unless the hyphen is spaced on both sides; "my photographs have a number at the end, so please do not change it" - err, no, it isn't yours, it is Vertigogen's! All I was doing was to take the renaming process a step further with the 'replacing this template with {{rename media|Regulus regulus -roadkill -Scotland-8.jpg}}' order (which you've now reversed), with a slight simplification (which is perfectly OK) of the new name - MPF (talk) 11:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The rename template does not say that the image name will be changed. If, you want to suggest something else, I think that you should ask first. The name that I suggested is perfectly reasonable and I see no reason why it should be changed. The template has the following instructions for you "A user approved for this purpose should correct this by: * replacing this template with {{rename media|Regulus regulus -roadkill -Scotland-8.jpg}}". I see no option for you in the template to change other peoples considered name changes. I should add that you are the only person, that I have had this difficulty with. I think the way you was going to do it hyphenated words to make the name confusing. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see what the en:wiki WP Birds talk page has to do with this. It is a Commons issue, not an en:wiki issue, and should have been raised on Commons, not there. I might also remind you that I was the first to identify the bird in the image, well before you raised it on en:wiki, so your somewhat abusive comments on my talk page are wholly inappropriate in that context: why did you for example, having seen my identification annotation, not give me any any notification of the further discussion on en:wiki? That was just as unhelpful, if not more so. - MPF (talk) 12:40, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please withdraw your allegation of "somewhat abusive comments". I uploaded the file from flickr. On wiki commons I have wrote adequate edit summaries to show that I have requested a rename, which based on your identification of the bird. I was the first person to put a rename tag on the image. Snowmanradio (talk) 13:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When you withdraw your accusations of unhelpful editing! I was only trying to assist, and as a result, get a public sounding off that makes me look a bad editor in the eyes of the rest of the Commons community. That wasn't nice. - MPF (talk) 13:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I did not mean to imply that you were being deliberately unhelpful, and I understand that you were trying to assist. Please also see the media links in the above section of my talk page which have changed colour when a different file was moved, and note that this system was also used with the file in question on the en wiki bird talk page. Please also realise that I made good edit summaries on the now deleted file, which was to inform all editors, including yourself, that I had requested a file rename. In reply to your comments on my talk page, I added a comment to your talk page to be helpful. Snowmanradio (talk) 13:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Sorry I was unkind in return before. I fear I had no real way of knowing that you already had other links established to the new file name; had I known that I wouldn't have made what I saw as the small simplifications to the suggested new name. - MPF (talk) 13:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bird photos[edit]

I think you're right, [[2]], and [[3]] are Derbyan Parakeets. I haven't uploaded to Commons yet, but I can if desired.

The Palm Cockatoo photos have been uploaded to Commons: File:Probosciger aterrimus-20030511.jpg, File:Probosciger aterrimus-20030511B.jpg. Please add these where appropriate.

The Blue-streaked Lorikeet photos have been uploaded to Commons: File:Eos reticulata-20040821.jpg, File:Eos reticulata-20040821B.jpg. Please add these where appropriate.

Any interest in a 12-wired BOP [[4]], [[5]]?

I don't think I have a Maroon-fronted Parrot, if I have a wrong ID please post the link. Dougjj (talk) 11:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, I meant this one the "Red-fronted Macaw". I have linked your photographs of the Blue-streaked Lorikeet and Palm Cockatoo to the species pages on en wiki. I expect people will copy them on the other language wikis soon. Could you add where the photographs were taken in the image description, and then I could add that in the captions? Snowmanradio (talk) 13:00, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
We have got some Twelve-wired Bird of Paradise, but the wires are not show very well, so your photographs will be useful here. Snowmanradio (talk) 13:03, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
File:Ara rubrogenys -20030516.jpg has been added to en:Red-fronted Macaw, locations have been added for the Blue-streaked Lorikeets and Palm Cockatoos; File:Seleucidis melanoleucus - 20031003.jpg has been added to en:Twelve-wired Bird of Paradise. - Dougjj (talk) 07:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Snowman, I'm caught up with the photos you listed on my talk page, I have ~20 more identified to work on, I'll also go back through the archives and see if there's anything else that might be of interest. Thanks for your help and guidance. - Dougjj (talk) 03:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you have archives, perhaps you could start with the best photographs or go through them methodically and see if you have missed anything. Snowmanradio (talk) 18:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Snowman, I just uploaded File:Euphonia violacea-20090208.jpg and File:Euphonia violacea-20090124.jpg, please take a look and decide where they should go on en:Violaceous Euphonia. Thanks. - Dougjj (talk) 12:07, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know much about these and my main books are about parrots. If you are unsure, then ask at the WP:Birds page, where your excellent photographs are already appreciated. Snowmanradio (talk) 12:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Snowman - I'm OK with the ID of these, I'll edit the article. - Dougjj (talk) 13:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, I'd rather get confirmation before adding these to the article. - Dougjj (talk) 15:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Jurong[edit]

It started as BirdPark and continues to be listed on various websites and in some Singapore government references as such. The entity brands itself as Jurong Bird Park on its website, in maps, promotional material, email, etc. This process has been ongoing from my first contact with JBP 6 years ago, technically I suppose either is correct. In the absence of a standard, I generally select the common, currently in use version of words and phrases as a specific entity identifies itself.

English doesn't follow traditional rules or customs verbatim in Singapore. In spite of the government's drive to Speak Good English, Singlish is common and influences many facets of what we see and hear on a daily basis. Consequently, variations in spelling are not uncommon and are readily accepted. - Dougjj (talk) 15:55, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No copyvio[edit]

Re. your edit summary.[6] Images I have uploaded from the Stuckism web site have been released by the site under GFDL. See http://www.stuckism.com/GFDL/index.html and pages linked from there. The image page says "Licence on originating site" and reproduces the text on the stuckism site, namely "Released under GFDL". Ty 23:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why won't you let me use the license we want[edit]

Hi Snowmanradio,

Jane and I have decided to relicense her photographs. If anybody wants the public domain version they can get it from the history. Why not respect our decision? edward (talk) 19:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I will not challenge your decision, as the new licence is a good one to choose. I changed the licence of one image to the original, which you can change again. Thank you for providing the photographs for wiki commons. Snowmanradio (talk) 19:15, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have reverted that one edit of mine to your photograph. Snowmanradio (talk) 12:04, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Egg[edit]

Thanks for slicing the egg, looks much better Jimfbleak (talk) 11:55, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What are there usual dimensions? Snowmanradio (talk) 12:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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