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Hello, Smallman12q!
Tip: Add categories to your files
Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 06:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons has a specific scope

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Thank you for your contributions. Your image or other content, Presidential Limousine, was recently deleted, or will soon be deleted, in accordance with our process and policies, because it was not, or is not, within our scope. Please review our project scope, but in short, Commons is targeted at educational media files including photographs, diagrams, animations, music, spoken text and video clips. The expression “educational” is to be understood according to its broad meaning of “providing knowledge; instructional or informative”. Wikimedia Commons does not contain text articles like encyclopedia articles, textbooks, news, word definitions and such. Each of these other kinds of content have their own projects: Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikinews, Wiktionary and Wikiquote. If the content seems to fit the scope of one of those other projects, please consider contributing it there. Otherwise, consider an alternative outlet. If you think that the deletion was in error because the contribution really was in scope, you can appeal it at Commons:Undeletion requests, giving a reason why it fits our scope to help others evaluate the matter. Thank you for your understanding.

--Techman224Talk 03:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


File:417176main SDO Guide CMR Page 30 Image 0004.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

--Uwe W. (talk) 10:06, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


File:Berlin Rensselaer NY.svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

--ZooFari 01:51, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Randolph Caldecot files

Running a digital "correction" on a painting or old print almost never works. The problems caused here are clearly in evidence when one compares these two with the original. Amandajm (talk) 18:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

This is the sort of way these old pics appear.
All the colours are too intense, the faces are red, the blue is too blue, the details of the black engraved lines are lost. It doesn't represent the appearance of the original.
Ye...I've since figured that auto-equalize in GIMP is too intense...I've left the auto-white balance though...does it look better now?Smallman12q (talk) 18:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I've also corrected File:Randolph Caldecott collection-page 0081-crop-balance-equalize.jpg.Smallman12q (talk) 18:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
That really is very much better! Thank you for doing that so promptly. The only problem with the white balance is that it often makes the page a colder, bluer white than the original paper would have been so that the whole overall effect is a bit as if it was printed on computer paper. The background should be just a little on the cream side.
Also, with the prints as they were originally used, in little books, the paper was sometimes quite buff. The engraver/printer would have adjusted his colour scheme to the coloured ground that it was going on. Amandajm (talk) 03:43, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
File:RP1357_p74_Salyut_6.svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Fred the Oyster (talk) 12:06, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

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Yann (talk) 09:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Congratulation! It has bot status now. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi, appreciate your message. I run a bot (standard python one), and have all the files (i.e. 3.000 images) on my computer. Now, the question would be how do I batch-upload the images with the bot. After I looked around again, would you say that Commons:Tools#Python_Wikipedia_Bot would do the job? Bennylin (yes?)

Yes, the files are organized in folders, and yes, I'm a Windows user. Your help is greatly appreciated. Bennylin (yes?) 06:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Yep, the folder names are identical with the online version, as well as the file names. On my example file File:Bible Illustrations 01 Genesis 01 01 Sweet Publishing.jpg, I added "Bible Illustrations" as the search name, "Sweet Publishing" as the publisher, and use the full name of the book, "Genesis", instead of "Ge", and didn't use the "RG" part of the name. What do you think?
As for the description and categorization, it would be better if they're done at the same time, because I think it's doable if scripted right. For the description, let's go with the basic, something like "A Bible Illustration that illustrates Genesis 1", for example. And the categories are Category:Bible Illustrations by Sweet Media for all listing, and Category:Bible Illustrations by Sweet Media (book 01-Genesis) for detailed listing. Thanks. Bennylin (yes?) 08:21, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
So, how should I perform the test upload, should I upload using upload.py or by VBScript? If it is the latter, would you mind point me to the right direction? Bennylin (yes?) 08:24, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
OK. I've uploaded 10 test files. Meanwhile I've modified the code a little, mainly on the description and categorization (for example, not every category starts with "Book of" kinda thing). Should I reupload the code? Also, I've simplified the code, see File:Book of Revelation Chapter 1-1 (Bible Illustrations by Sweet Media).jpg. What do you think? Bennylin (yes?) 13:13, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and also about the script, although convenient (I don't need to install anything), but is there any way to make the process automatic. Right now step #11 is not working, so I open cmd screen and run the bot from there. It pops up a lot of "OK"s screen, and the process won't continue until I press OK every time it pops up. Thanks. Bennylin (yes?) 13:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, it's done. I'm puzzled for a while that there was chapter 0, but apparently your code adding 1 for each chapter numbering.
Glad to see it went well. I don't believe I ever read a chapter 0 in the bible, so I assumed it was a mistake and bumped it up to 1. If there are chapter 0s in the bible...then I made a mistake in correcting them.Smallman12q (talk) 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Re OTRS ticket
I've been in contact with people from DSMedia again. Hopefully they can get someone from Sweet Publishing to send the OTRS ticket soon.

Thanks for the help. It seems that your script is the easiest way so far to upload batch of pictures, I think it should be added to Commons:Tools (after the code is tweaked, of course) Bennylin (yes?) 11:13, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

I may add it in the future along with several other vbs scripts and a short tutorial. You can do quite a bit with VBScript and COM. VBScript's successor, Powershell requires that you learn assembler-like aliases making it newbie-unfriendly. My concern with sharing, however, is that variants may be used by en:script kiddies for spam.Smallman12q (talk) 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I share your concern there.
One more thing, I just realized that the files that I uploaded are of smaller resolution. (See File:Book of Exodus Chapter 1-1 (Bible Illustrations by Sweet Media).jpg for example). I might have to redownload them and reupload them again. Ack! The good news is that the copyright will be cleared out soon. Bennylin (yes?) 10:05, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Scenic images?

Hi Smallman12q, I see you created categories like Category:Scenic images of Harney County, Oregon. Why didn't you just put the images in Category:Harney County, Oregon? Intersecting the source with a topic category is generally not a very good idea. Multichill (talk) 19:24, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

The images were batch uploaded as part of Commons:Bots/Requests/Smallbot 2. I created those categories to organize the images based on the county source. I should probably change those categories to a parameter to the {{Oregon Historical County Records Guide}} license so the template will give a hidden cat Category:Images from Oregon Historical County Records Guide (Harney County, Oregon), and then add the original county category Category:Harney County, Oregon back to the images. Also, I have to tag a lot of the images with {{Uncategorized Oregon Historical County Records Guide}}. If you think this is the right approach, or have any thoughts on this, let me know.Smallman12q (talk) 13:12, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

About hidden categories for images from the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum

First of all, thanks for everything you've been doing for images from the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum so far: it has been much appreciated! I spoke with Bdcousineau in person last night at our weekly Michigan Wikipedians meeting about the cooperation and, in the course of our discussion, I mentioned that the NARA images use an extensive hidden category structure parallel to the "mainspace" categories that they are also filed under. After looking around and finding Category:Media contributed by the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum tonight and noticing that it is completely separate from categories such as Category:Artifacts at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum and Category:Photographs at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum, I'm curious about the possibility of transforming all of these categories into a single hidden hierarchy similar to what NARA uses and then add "mainspace" categories to them (again, just like the NARA images). I have some experience with this, but not much, so I wanted to ask you about it before I do anything. Thanks again for all your help with the project and take care! Michael Barera (talk) 01:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Ye, that's fine. You can create a centralized hierarchy...that's what cats are supposed to do. You just need to categorize the categories=P.Smallman12q (talk) 22:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Also, you're welcome to work on the template for the images...I'm not fully sure what should be included/excluded.Smallman12q (talk) 22:40, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Alright, I'll go ahead and start working on it. Please feel free to correct any mistakes if I make them. Thanks again for all your help! Michael Barera (talk) 00:23, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Quick suggestion about the PDF files you are preparing to upload

I've been talking with Bdcousineau and, after I mentioned something to her about the PDF uploads, she suggested I let you know before you get too far into the uploading process. Most of the PDFs (at least the ones redlinked to in her sandbox) start with the title "Vice President and" without naming who the "Vice President" is. While in the context of the Ford Library and Museum this is something obvious, it really isn't in the Wikiverse, so I suggested everything be systematically changed from "Vice President" to "Vice President Ford" before the uploads are made. This is something that can be done through filemoving after the upload, if worst comes to worst, but it would really be easier to do it first. Thanks so much for everything you've been doing and take care! You're awesome! Michael Barera (talk) 04:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Copyright question

File:Barbara Roberts Painting (Marion County, Oregon scenic images) (marDA0120).jpg

Hi, just a quick FYI -- I believe this image is probably under copyright. I believe the State erroneously tagged it, as the attribution is for the photographer; but the painter's copyright is not addressed by their generic copyright notice. I think it's best if the file is deleted, unless there is more known about its authorship and copyright status. -Pete F (talk) 15:34, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for finding it. You're probably right. I've voted to delete.Smallman12q (talk) 23:42, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations! Task is approved. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:30, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I've sent an e-mail to the Kellogg Eye Center concerning the "The Eyes Have It" images and video

I've just contacted the Kellogg Eye Center by e-mail concerning the "The Eyes Have It" images and videos. I first tried to send an e-mail to the general "contact us" account (which failed to deliver twice), so I just sent it to the person listed under "photography" instead: I don't have any idea if he'll be able to help, but I gave it a shot (and I also used my umich.edu e-mail account, for whatever that's worth). Here is the text of the message that I sent:

To whomever it concerns,

My name is Michael Barera and I'm a student here at the University of Michigan as well as a member of the Michigan Wikipedians student club. One of my fellow Wikipedians (Smallman12q is his username) has noticed that you have a treasure trove of eye-related photos and videos that are freely licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 (CC BY 3.0) license on your collection "The Eyes Have It". Because they are freely licensed under a CC license that is compatible with the licenses that Wikipedia uses, Smallman12q would like to upload them to Wikipedia. One thing that he noticed, however, is that each of the images has a Michigan logo as a watermark: Wikipedia discourages the use of watermarks on actual images on the project, so Smallman12q is curious if there would be any way to obtain these images and videos without the watermarks. On Wikipedia, we add extensive information and metadata to each image, so we will be sure to properly credit the Kellogg Eye Center as the creator and source of these images on each and every image/video page. If this is a request that you are unable to grant or even to consider, I will completely understand. If this is a request you are able to grant, Smallman12q is not picky about what format he would like to receive the images in: he suggested zip, but he is flexible. Thanks so much for your time and take care!

- Michael Barera

Hope that this helps. Michael Barera (talk) 03:17, 10 November 2012 (UTC)