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Yours sincerely, TadejM (t/p) 00:24, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrol given[edit]

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Cimitero di Staglieno[edit]

Hi, could you tell me exactly how Category:Graves in Cimitero di Staglieno (Genoa) is redundant? You're just removing most of the graves from their category, which is in no way a duplicate of other cats (Category:Statues in the Cimitero di Staglieno (Genoa) is completely unrelated; not all the graves display a statue and not all the statue in that cemetery are from a grave + a category is redundant in the case of a COM:OVERCAT, and this one is not). N.Longo (talk) 20:20, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for asking. They're redundant because the files or Categories appear twice under "Cimitero di Staglieno". What I did was to move those images that have no statues/sculptures, but only gravestones or chapels to "Graves . . ." and all those that have statues/sculptures to "Statues . . .". I believe this makes individual monuments easier to find, if they're only under "Cimitero di Staglieno" once.
Seauton (talk) 20:26, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot to mention: notice that I've added "See Also" tags at the top of "Statues . . ." "Graves . . ." and "Reliefs . . ." Categories to make it clear that all the graves/monuments should be covered (hopefully only once) in these three Categories. I'm just trying to make this huge Category (Cimitero di Staglieno) somewhat easier to navigate, not so overwhelming to visitors/new browsers.
Seauton (talk) 20:37, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In order to make a file/category easier to find it should have all the categories it needs! In this way if someone searches for photos of graves in Genoa he will miss most of the graves in Staglieno (see the category tree) and it's not redundant since in a subcategory are shown all the pics of statues in that cemetery (from graves or not) while in the other there are all the photos of graves in Stagliano (with statues or not), they are under two separate category trees. E.g. a photo of a statue in Palazzo di San Giorgio is categorized either in Category:Palazzo di San Giorgio (Genoa) - interior‎ and Category:Palazzo di San Giorgio (Genoa) - Sculptures‎, and not only in one of them. You can say a category is redundant only in this case of a COM:OVERCAT, so, for instance, if a photo is both in Category:Graves in Cimitero di Staglieno (Genoa) and in an higher level category such as Category:Cimitero di Staglieno (Genoa) N.Longo (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
When I'm making decisions like this, trying to better organise a Category (or a Category tree like "Cimitero di Staglieno"), I follow the suggestions in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Overcategorization - I'm trying to cut down on what is called "Category Clutter" in that article. The article agrees that too many Categories make things harder to find. (I don't make changes like this only on my own preferences for organisation; I try to follow the suggestions already posted by Wikipedians before me with a lot more experience.)
Seauton (talk) 21:08, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, but here we are on Commons and the rules are those written in Commons:CAT, plus I don't really see what the "category clutter" has to do with this specific case; since with are not dealing with "hundreds of categories, most of which aren't particularly relevant" and with none of the cases mentioned on that page. The usage of {{Cat see also}} should not replace the category tree, if you have a category about a grave in some way it must be in at least one category under Category:Graves (which, according to Modularity principle, in this case is Category:Graves in Cimitero di Staglieno (Genoa)). At best, if there are enough images, you could create a subcat named "Statue of yyyyy in/at/of (not so sure about the better wording) Tomba xxxx (Cimitero di Staglieno) an other option could be "Statue of yyyyy (Tomba xxxx, Cimitero di Staglieno)" and this one will be categorized at least under Category:Statues in the Cimitero di Staglieno (Genoa) and Category:Tomba xxxx (Cimitero di Staglieno) but the second, since it is about the whole grave and not under Category:Statues in the Cimitero di Staglieno (Genoa) anymore, it should be under Category:Graves in Cimitero di Staglieno (Genoa). I ping @G.dallorto, who recently did a huge work with photographs of Staglieno, thinking it will be interested in this discussion. N.Longo (talk) 11:07, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS: since when there are only bronze sculptures in Staglieno? Even if this were the case, which it is not, the standard structure must be followed and always categories about Statues or Reliefs are a subcategory of Sculptures, just like "Bronze sculptures" (which, in some more detailed cases, could be a sub-category of sculptures by material).

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Günther Frager (talk) 00:20, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Buenos aires chacarita vandor 1.jpg[edit]

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A1Cafel (talk) 03:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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A1Cafel (talk) 03:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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A1Cafel (talk) 03:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Signatur auf Grabstein[edit]

Hallo Seauton,

gehört die von dir fotografierte Signatur zu diesem Grabstein? Ich bin vom Ansehen her nicht hundertprozentig sicher und finde auch sonst keine Informationen zu diesem Grab. Für den Artikel de:Hugo Emanuel Becher wäre es natürlich schön, wenn man nicht nur die Signatur im Artikel anzeigen könnte, sondern auch das Werk bzw. zumindest beides in eine Personen-Kategorie zu packen.--Berita (talk) 16:58, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Grüße, ich verstehe nicht alle Ihre Fragen, zum Beispiel den Hinweis auf Becher. (Ich glaube nicht, dass Becher irgendeine Verbindung zu dieser Skulptur hat.) Die Signatur von Terroir (1929) befindet sich auf dem Sockel der Bronzestatue des Mannes. Ich habe die Signatur überprüft, indem ich eine andere Skulptur (nicht auf einem Friedhof) desselben Künstlers betrachtet habe, und die Signatur stimmte überein. Gerne beantworte ich den Rest Ihrer Frage, wenn Sie mir das klären können. Grüße,
Seauton (talk) 02:20, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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