User talk:SarekOfVulcan

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Hello, SarekOfVulcan!

Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]

[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 06:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

• Image:JeffreyRImmeltAugust2009.jpg was uncategorized on 31 August 2009.
• Image:S-duct NASA.jpg was uncategorized on 14 September 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:54, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Your RfA

Hi, I just wanted to let you know I've closed your RfA and done all the archiving maintenance. Sorry to see it didn't turn out as well as you planned, and I hope you reapply sometime in the future. Cheers, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

File:Loughner family home.JPG

I will not block you for this, but please be aware that other admins may block you for this kind of behaviour. You were told which procedure you should follow if you disagree with an admin decision. You are not allowed to just revert it. Jcb (talk) 14:08, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Funny, admin Herbythyme agreed with me in the village pump discussion, so that makes two admins who have agreed with me that that version should go. You're misreading that deletion discussion. Herby just declined to get involved with wheel warring, since you had already reverted an admin decision once. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:11, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but you shouldn't edit war whether you are right or wrong. Two Admins who may agree doesn't mean it is a consensus, I'm in no way taking sides just giving you advice. I think that your thread/post would have been better posted at the Admin Noticeboard rather then Village pump. Bidgee (talk) 14:40, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up -- still not sure where everything is over on this side.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Please

Do not wheel war - it is unnecessary and unhelpful. There is a real question about the DR which needs addressing not arguing over. This posting it to both parties. --Herby ^{talk thyme} 17:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Also see here. --Herby ^{talk thyme} 17:16, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Herby asked me to take a look at this. Although I certainly respect his views, I think he's wrong on this, as his view is from the other side of the Atlantic. Although we may not like it, there is no privacy in the USA for families of people accused of mass murder and assassination. The image was, apparently, taken from a public street. Leaving the license plate numbers is not a problem, as everything about the family is on the public record somewhere, or will be soon. Therefore, I agree with Jcb that the image with the numbers is the correct one to keep.

However, here is a slap on the wrist for each of you:

• Sarek for getting involved in wheel warring -- the correct course would be to reopen the DR with, perhaps, a note on the Village Pump and the Administrator's Noticeboard. Although sometimes I wish it were so, no decision on Commons is final, but simply ignoring the decision will get you blocked.

• Jcb for using administrative tools in a wheel war in which you were involved -- although the outcome is correct, it would have been much better if you had asked another Admin to protect the file.

I have left this message on both talk pages and at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Some_input_please.

     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 17:44, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

File:AmyFisherCropped.jpg

File:AmyFisherCropped.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Hold and wave (talk) 14:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Question

Hello SarekOfVulcan, I asked you the same question at meta, but I see you contribute to Commons much more often. So here it is again:

This question is about English wikipedia, but because I am blocked there, with your permission I would ask it here.

A few months ago you declined my unblock request writing in your decline reason "You know well by now that editors are supposed to be notified when they're discussed on ANI, so running around claiming "canvassing" is disingenuous at best. "

First I would like to point out that I have never done anything "disingenuous". If I said it was "canvassing", I said it because I believed it was canvassing, and the thing is I still do.

It has already been established that my blocking administrator Gwen Gale was canvassed.

Now I'd like to explain to you please why I believe that en:user:User:Betsythedevine and en:User:Demiurge1000 were engaged in canvassing in order to make me blocked.

These two users notified 3 users about the AN/I post about me. In order to answer the question, if these notifications were canvassing we need to respond two questions:

1. Is there a requirement to notify a user who is mentioned on AN/I thread?

No, there is no such requirement: Please see here: "You must notify any user who is the subject of a discussion." (highlighted by me). The notified users were not the subjects of the discussion, I was. They were brought to the discussion artificially with the only purpose of Votestacking.

2. What was the purpose of these notifications?

As I stated above the purpose of these notifications was Votestacking. The notified users had absolutely nothing to do the with this particular AN/I discussion, but they were canvassed because they were to believe to have "predetermined point of view or opinion" about me. en:user:User:Betsythedevine and en:User:Demiurge1000 looked over my contributions that have absolutely nothing to do with either en:user:User:Betsythedevine or with en:User:Demiurge1000, or with the AN/I thread , selected three users, with whom I had a disagreement, mentioned them in the AN/I thread and then canvassed them to the AN/I thread they were not the subjects of. Such kind of behavior could also be called wikihounding.

So now after I clarified my position, may I please ask you to clarify yours?

You might be wondering why now a few months later I am asking you about this. I am doing this for two reasons:

a. To make it fair for me at least.

b. To make you a better, more fair administrator.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, I patiently waited for the clarification of your decline reason of my unblock request, but as all unfair and dishonest people who know they did wrong, you have chosen to ignore my question.

It is about you and others like you HJMitchell said: You lack the judgement, and the thickness of skin, to do the job properly; you lack the compassion, humanity and humility to admit it when you fuck up.

So let me tell you what happened with my December block:

Wikihounds en:user:User:Betsythedevine and en:User:Demiurge1000 loked over my contributions that in no way were related to them personally, canvassed three more users to the AN/I thread that had nothing to do with any one of them in purpose of votestacking.

I was blocked by an involved, bully administrator , who responded to canvassing.

When I posted my unblock reconquest not only you demonstrated a complete inability to read and understand simple wikipedia policies, but you also refused me in assumption of good faith, and also made a personal attack claiming that when I said canvassing was involved I was "disingenuous at best".

Please have a nice day.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Harassment

[1] How can you honestly say that my belief that "harassment" requires it to be over multiple pages and targetted is evidence that I deserve to be blocked? w:WP:HARASS makes it clear that it is defined as a pattern of repeated offensive behavior that appears to a reasonable observer to intentionally target a specific person or persons. The words "repeated" and "targetted" are what makes up the definition of Wikistalking - repeated means that there are multiple pages involved and targetted means that the edits on the pages are focused on an individual. You have accused me of being wrong but the definition and the grammar backs me up. You came over and got active from WR and then you post stuff like that. How do you expect to be taken seriously? I was outed multiple times, told to kill myself, etc. There has been no proof put up of anything even close to that in my behavior or actions. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:50, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

a), this is Commons, not Wikipedia, and b) the English language takes precedence over Wikipedia. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harass --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:57, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

1. Commons does not mean that it doesn't have the same ideas on usage of terms and 2. lodging any kind of claim without evidence isn't appropriate regardless of a dictionary definition. The word "rape" doesn't necessary imply a sexual connotation but I can't get away with saying "I think you are raping people here". At least try to be objective. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

What Commons policy says: "Harassment. Accounts and IP addresses which are used primarily to create a hostile environment for another user may be blocked. Good faith disputes between users, however, should be brought to Commons:Village pump for outside input." There hasn't been any proof that I created a hostile environment for a user. What Wikipedia says: "Like the word stalk, harass carries real-life connotations—from simple unseemly behavior to criminal conduct—and must be used judiciously and with respect to these connotations. " Ottava Rima (talk) 17:05, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

a heads-up

In 2011 you participated in Commons:Administrators/Requests/Jcb_(de-adminship 2). That discussion ended with User:Jcb losing his administrator privileges.

This note is to inform you that User:Odder proposed Jcb have unconconditional access to administrator privileges restored.

Commons:Administrators/Requests/Jcb (readmin) is scheduled to close on May 20th.

Cheers Geo Swan (talk) 23:38, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

File:FingertipPulseOximeter-MD300C1NoLogo.jpg

File:FingertipPulseOximeter-MD300C1NoLogo.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Kelly (talk) 05:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)