User talk:LX/Archive/2008: April to June

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Thanks

Thanks for Welcome Messege ;)

Prppedro 16:42, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

About deletions...

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The Subspace Emissary

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Actually..about the Station Logo Photo

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Image:Vasa model.jpg is OK?

If Image:Model rescued Vasa ship.jpg was deleted because No FOP since not outdoors as required by Swedish law, Image:Vasa model.jpg is OK? --Jacopo Werther 18:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

There's a deletion discussion open now, and I'm afraid it will also have to be deleted. —LX (talk, contribs) 11:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:These kid.jpg

Would it be possible for you to send this deleted image to me? Some anon IP over on Wikipedia uploaded it here so we could help him ID a show, and he doesn't have the ability to upload it anywhere else (see his bizarre story here). If you could do this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! ···日本穣^{Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikimail doesn't support attachments, but if you want you can send me a wikimail, which will tell me your address, and then I can send a regular e-mail with the image attached. —LX (talk, contribs) 08:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. ···日本穣^{Talk to Nihonjoe} 01:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Lost

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Migueles.png

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Thanks

Thanks for your response with the London pictures. 75.105.13.17 15:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

You may think that I don't know what I am talking about, but the law supports what I state. See here:

"4.-(1) In this Part "artistic work" means- (b) a work of architecture being a building or a model for a building, or"

and

"The author of an artistic work has the right to be identified whenever- in the case of a work of architecture in the form of a building or a model for a building, a sculpture or a work of artistic craftsmanship, copies of a graphic work representing it, or of a photograph of it, are issued to the public."

Thus, the author must be identified in such pictures. This is not happening on Wikicommons. 75.105.13.17 01:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Julio Voltio

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A101j

The user A101j is uploading large numbers of copyvios, such as all the CD covers of the band Molotov. I noticed that you warned him to stop two days ago. It seems that he hasn't, he should be blocked from uploading more files and his recent contributions deleted (I guess it would be futile to go placing "copyvio" to all of them) Thialfi 03:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing it. Looks like Christian Nurtsch dealt with it while I was sleeping. —LX (talk, contribs) 07:57, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Vasa model photo

You voted to have Image:Vasa model.jpg deleted recently, but I think I've found a solution to this problem. Please see request page for clarification.

Peter ^Isotalo 18:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

That's really good news, and a refreshing contrast to the attitudes of many museums that I've come across in discussions lately. Please see Michael's comment underneath yours in the deletion request. Additionally, if you could ask them to include mention of the model showing the salvaging operation as well, we could undelete Image:Model rescued Vasa ship.jpg. Don't forget to thank them and encourage their stance. —LX (talk, contribs) 11:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Image tagging

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Dinosaur Jr. photo

it would have been nice if you had waited until I sorted out the licensing before deleting this image Arleach 20:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

If you do, leave a message at Commons:Undeletion requests and it can be undeleted. Generally, the right order to do things in is to ensure we can host the image before uploading. —LX (talk, contribs) 21:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Confused

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Template:Unsigned

I see you reverted me. I thought I had that right. Please point me to a broken use, as I cannot see how I was wrong. – Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 01:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I should of course have left you a note about this. I recreated your revision in my own namespace as User:LX/Unsigned, and here's the result of {{User:LX/Unsigned|Username|2000-01-01}}:

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Username (talk • contribs) {{subst:#if:2000-01-01|2000-01-01 (UTC)}}

This does not seem to happen when the template is substed, but the idea that it "must be substed" is a relatively new invention, which contradicts Template talk:Unsigned#Usage and which has, as far as I have seen, not been justified. It continues to be used without substing by many users, and even if that were to be universally considered wrong, I don't think the above is an very informative or graceful degradation. —LX (talk, contribs) 06:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, old uses should be substituted, and future uses as well. I will subst them at some point. Once that's done, I'll add that back in. If it says anywhere that this template should not be substituted then it needs to be changed. – Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 15:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Why should it be (other than to make your change work ;-) )? Keeping it unsubsted makes discussions more readable in source mode and helps new users figure out which template to use when others forget to sign their posts (that's how I learned). I remember a time in the past when a bot started substing them and there were objections (I'll try to dig up the conversation later; I'm a bit swamped at the moment). —LX (talk, contribs) 15:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Unnecessary server load. The template code is simple, and will not clutter edit view. I will add a hidden comment so people know what template is used. – Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 19:25, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Is this actually a problem? Is it by request from the sysadmins that we're worrying about performance in this case? —LX (talk, contribs) 19:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyright

I present my excuses for the copyrighted photos that I have no exact knowledge of origin. I am the coordinator of a working group to put information of Paraguay in "Wikipedia". On the list are many pictures we have taken, but we also have an agreement with other people linked to media that I have gone for me to upload the photos.

You deleted 3 photos quite rightly, I realize that they have been copied elsewhere.

However, 80% of the photos that are on the list are in my group, and we have taken with different cameras.

I know understand this situation, and I'm going to be much more careful when it comes to receive and publish them. In addition I will make a review of other photos that I charged and delete those that do not correspond.

But allow me to continue our project smoothly.

I am available for any clarification.

I notice you has deleted more than 70 photos. Can we do anything to resolve this fact. Its this much important to our contribution project, to resolve this ?. Thanks. --Hujadila 16:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

--Hujadila 14:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Please try to keep discussions in one place. You've posted nearly identical messages here, on the deletion discussion page and on your own user talk page. I'll address most of your points in the deletion discussion instead. The word "you" in the last paragraph of your message above is ambiguous, but I assume by the use of it here on my talk page, it's directed at me personally, so I'll address that here.

In total, I've deleted close to 5,000 images, but only four of your uploads (Image:Carlos gamarra.jpg, Image:CHILAVERT.jpg, Image:Jose-luis-chilavert6.jpg and Image:Carlos gamarra.jpg), not 70. Others admins have deleted three more of your uploads (Image:Oldman.jpeg, Image:Juancarlosmoreno.jpeg and Image:Monday 002.jpg). If you disagree with any deletions, you can request undeletion at Commons:Undeletion requests. —LX (talk, contribs) 20:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help; i agree with your comentaries. The 70 photos wasn't deleted; was marked for deletions. Sorry, until now I thought, i could do anything with my Discusion Page. I don't know how to do to legal unmmark those pictures marked for deletion.

--Hujadila 23:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay. (It's actually 114 images by my count.) If you edit the image descriptions so that they contain truthful, credible and verifiable information about the authorship and licensing (including evidence that other authors approved the licensing terms you have stated), and if the consensus of the deletion discussion is that the information is as required, the administrator closing the discussion will remove the {{Delete}} tags from the images. Do not remove the {{Delete}} tags yourself. —LX (talk, contribs) 23:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:2506988601 3528546f18 b.jpg/Image:Hilton San Diego Bayfront explosion incident.jpg

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Comments removed

Would you care to explain why you removed my comments from here? I used to think that I was entitled to (at least) voice my opinion, especially when I am being called lame. I also used to think that deletion of comments from discussions had to be somehow notified.

I would very much like them to be reinstated, unless a specific policy against this exists.

Cheers --Alien life form 11:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The top of the page states "This deletion debate is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive." I thought that was rather clear. —LX (talk, contribs) 17:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The top of the page now states what above. When I entered my comments, it did not. If I still cared, I'd call that vandalism (and the lame tag a personal attack, that being a seaparate issue). As things are, you are very welcome to do as you please, and feel justified in the process. (My request of reinstatement still stands, BTW). Have fun & cheers, --Alien life form 17:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

It did contain that text when you added your comment. See the revision immediately before your edits and immediately after. —LX (talk, contribs) 19:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

"Hotel" one

Just by way of information I looked at the email address of the user - this suggests care/reflection. I am concerned about the increase in images on Commons that may be used for marketing, selling or search engine optimisation purposes. I'll post something more general shortly --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I Say HI

Just I say thanks and hi for the three times to you block my user, now i just upload images than is free copyright or self made. JorgheX

That's good to see. Glad the message got through. —LX (talk, contribs) 15:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, unfortunately, after you uploaded Image:Age-Of-Empires-2-2wallpapers.jpg, I have to take that back. It seems you still have a bit to learn. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:12, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm sorry, I didn't know nothing of the license, I have to read more, thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Threll (talk • contribs) 21:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Delete

Why did you delete File:Indians 2007 Champs.jpg? User:Spencer (talk) 21:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I wrote the answer on your user talk page before I saw this: please see Commons:Derivative works. —LX (talk, contribs) 21:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

But wouldn't it go under freedom of Panorama...this is a building. And why is Image:Jacobs Field scoreboard.jpg allowed? Spencer (talk) 21:52, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

It's an image displayed on a jumbotron mounted on a building, and that's not covered by US FoP, I'm afraid. Thanks for bringing Image:Jacobs Field scoreboard.jpg to my attention. I've deleted it too, for the same reason. —LX (talk, contribs) 22:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

And Image:Snowed out on opening day.jpg and Category:Baseball scoreboards? Spencer (talk) 22:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Some of those include only {{PD-ineligible}} signs. In some, the inclusion of copyrightable elements is de minimis and incidental to the image itself. (In Image:Snowed out on opening day.jpg, the center sign is just text in a standard typeface and all other signs are de minimis, the main focus being on the condition of the field and to some extent the center sign.) Other images in that category should probably be reviewed. I'll post a notice on COM:ANB. —LX (talk, contribs) 22:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Done: Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Derivatives of baseball scoreboards. —LX (talk, contribs) 22:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I thought it was okay because of the other pictures, but this clarifies it for me. Thanks, Spencer (talk) 00:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. —LX (talk, contribs) 00:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem...I also got the image deleted fron en.wikipedia (I was originally copying it over). Spencer (talk) 13:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Nero InfoTool

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Copyright

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Imagenes del usuario solfeo957

oye me han borrado todas las imagenes que he subido, pero lo que se me hace raro es que por ejemplo la de Amanda_Rosa.jpg y la de las campanas extractoras hace mucho tiempo que las subí y que casualidad que meses despues me resulten con eso. Quisiera saber por que hicieron eso, explicamelo tú por favor, gracias. --Solfeo957 (talk) 16:54, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand. —LX (talk, contribs) 17:16, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Why my all images which i uploaded had been deleted??? if 3 of them they have a long of time here, and now, they're deleted (amanda_rosa.jpg and the 2 extractor hood images), and so tell me why.--Solfeo957 (talk) 00:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

The deletion log for Image:Amanda Rosa.jpg (uploaded just over two months ago) indicates that it was deleted following Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Amanda Rosa.jpg, which states that it was a copyright violation. Finding an image online does not make you the copyright holder, creator or author of that image, and you may not release it into the public domain. The fact that these things are not clear to you indicates to me that you still need to read Commons:Licensing (Commons:Sobre las licencias). Please note that making fraudulent statements regarding the authorship and licensing of other people's works is a criminal offense.

Image:Extractor-hood_air_gets_in.gif and Image:Extractor-hood air gets out.gif have not (yet) been deleted, but they have been nominated for deletion. You can find the deletion discussions at Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Extractor-hood air gets in.gif and Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Extractor-hood air gets out.gif, where the reasons for the nominations are stated.

The reasons for deletion of your other uploads are stated in the deletion logs here, here, here and here. In short, you need to read Commons:Licensing (Commons:Sobre las licencias). —LX (talk, contribs) 01:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks LX for answer, I think the reasons which I did wrong the images upload were because I am new here in Commons and I don't know the commons rules. Thank you once again for answer.--Solfeo957 (talk) 17:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Some things I don't understand

Hi, first, EXCUSE ME!!!!!!! if I am not polite, I don't have a great level in english, so, if I say to you something that sound like an agression, really, excuse me. Well, I don't use commons frequently, so I don't know verry well how it works, so excuse me (again) if I do, say, think or make something mistake about commons. Ok, you erased the photo Jacobo Arenas.jpg. Well, that was a photo of a member of the Farc-Ep (a terrorist organization), taken by a Farc-Ep member too. The image was found in the page of the Farc-Ep (a blocked page by the police). As a Terrorist organization, there's no possibility of any kind of sue for that reason. The image Eguzman.jpg, well, you're right, it's a copyright violation. The images Bertulfo.jpg and Alape.jpg appear in a list of the US government, so I suppose, the images have no copyright. Second, the image Wasserman.jpg was tooked by me. It's a graffiti in the National University of Colombia and it's not a part of a copyrighted work. I aprecciate your time, and again, if i'm wrong with something (copyright, language) please excuse me. Thanks a lot. --Elviper (talk) 01:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

As the deletion log for Image:Jacobo Arenas.JPG shows, it was deleted as a result of the consensus at Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Eguzman.jpg.

Image:Bertulfo.jpg, Image:Alape.jpg and Image:Wasserman.jpg have not (yet) been deleted, but they have been nominated for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Bertulfo.jpg (also covers Image:Alape.jpg) and Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Wasserman.jpg.

Commons only accepts works that are in the public domain or whose copyright holders (usually the authors, meaning the people who created the works) have published the work under a free license. Assumptions that the copyright holders are unlikely to sue the uploader or Commons for copyright infringement are not sufficient to meet the requirements of Commons' licensing policy. If you believe that a work is genuinely in the public domain, you need to indicate why, with reference to the specific laws that state that such works are in the public domain. —LX (talk, contribs) 09:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Huh?

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Golf!

I see autoblocks in the block log - I think we might safely assume we will see more of the pictures uploaded yet. Let me know if I can help - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 07:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye out and keep you posted. Thanks! —LX (talk, contribs) 08:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

BitDefender Logo

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Help desk

You are really good there. Sometimes, excellent even. -- carol (talk) 06:02, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! :) —LX (talk, contribs) 07:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I should add eloquent as well -- it is all an understatement right now -- carol (talk) 08:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Further, one day you might experience asskissing from me. This isn't that. This is a thank you. I would go as far to call it slobbering if I hadn't just pasted a picture of a person spitting elsewhere. -- carol (talk)

Well then I shall keep looking forward to that day. ;) —LX (talk, contribs) 08:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Me podrias Ayudar a Archivar mi pagina de Discusión

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Dlaczego?/Why?

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