User talk:IllaZilla

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Logos Copyright Violations

I saw the notices in my talk page and I want to tell you I'm sorry for the inconvenience but I wasn't going to break deliberately the rules of Commons. I saw other logos uploaded on Commons, so I thought I could without any problems. I also uploaded these logos [1] Are they going to be delated? Regards --SunOfErat (talk) 17:45, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll have a look through them. Logos can be tricky: if they're just simple text like a font and/or simple shapes, then they don't pass the threshold of originality to be eligible for copyright. For example, this and this are just text and/or simple shapes; they aren't original enough to qualify. However this and this are clearly more than just simple text or fonts and would qualify (in fact, they're part of album art). Also consider that not every name or bit of text on an album cover is a "logo". Often it's just how the band wrote their name or the title on that particular cover; it doesn't have repeated use throughout their career such that it counts as a "logo" and should be presented as such. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:04, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanations. But why all these images are uploaded without any ploblems? Category:Madonna (entertainer) logos Category:Katy Perry logos File:Acdc logo band.svg File:AFOS_logo_UK_band.jpg File:Akrea_Logo.jpg a lot of these Category:Metal band logos File:DeDrugosBand.jpg fr:Fichier:Logo Queen.png and others...--SunOfErat (talk) 08:30, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

A lot of users, especially music fans, don't understand the "threshold of originality" concept and assume that anything that looks like "just words" is in the public domain. This isn't always the case. Like I said, "threshold of originality" is tricky and requires some experience to get a feel for.

Also, a lot of users assume that any ligature on an album cover is a "logo". This, again, isn't always the case. A band may style its name differently on every album cover and not have any kind of consistent "logo" at all. This is the case for a majority of musical artists. A logo is generally more than just ligature, and has consistent use beyond just a single album and its associated merchandise (t-shirts, etc.). But most users don't care, they're just looking to decorate their pet articles.

Finally, the reason those images probably haven't been deleted is that very few people police these things. I happen to take these sorts of issues seriously, but a lot of users don't. This is especially true at the non-English Wikipedias, which are (in my experience) lax about these types of images. You'll find these "logos" used in the name fields of infoboxes all over some of the non-English Wikipedias, for example, whereas at the English Wikipedia (which is by far the largest and has the most editors) we came to a consensus several years ago to specifically prohibit this type of use. --IllaZilla (talk) 17:22, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I can anticipate that you will have a lot of work to do with my logos. I know it's boring, sorry again. And also thank you again for all these lessons: since now you can be sure that I will take care to the threshold of originality and "true logos". P.S. I see this message just now. Answer in the same page is a convention typically of english and german wiki, that's the reason why the spanish user down there said to you that is rude and isn't a good thing to do. Singular thing.--SunOfErat (talk) 01:11, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

No worries. Unfortunately I don't know my way around Commons all that well (I have trouble finding the policy pages, for example) or I'd point you to the relevant guidelines. It may turn out that I'm off-base about some of these, and if so I'll gladly take a pointer to the relevant policy pages. I had no idea that the non-English wikis generally conversed back-and-forth across talk pages. It seems like a terrible practice to me. How would an outside observer be able to follow the conversation? --IllaZilla (talk) 02:58, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

BALZAC logo

Hello, why to delete a logo re-designed by vectorial graphic, like standard says? Thanks. --panapp〜パナップ 19:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Converting it to a vector graphic does not count as "re-designing" the logo. You are not the original designer of the logo and do not hold the trademark on it, therefore it is not your "own work" (scanning something into your computer and coverting it to a vector graphic does not make the work yours). On that basis alone the image could be deleted (misrepresenting something as your own work when you are, in fact, not its creator), but you also claimed it as pd-text when it is clearly not just "simple text" (it's stylized, and not a simple or free font) and there is no evidence that the creator or trademark holder gave you permission to release their work into the public domain. --IllaZilla (talk) 19:50, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Logo black veil brides flipped.png

I don't understand. Is a derivative work. Renegade ^Mons†er 22:33, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Anyway, it's just the letter "B" making a mirror effect. Renegade ^Mons†er 22:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

It makes no difference if it's derivative. You did not design the logo, and you are not the trademark holder, so you can't claim it as your own work nor can you release it under a free license unless you can show that you have permission to do so. I can't scan an album cover, crop the logo out of it, then claim the logo as my own work. It's derivative of a copyrighted or trademarked image. It's more than just a mirrored letter "B", it's stylized in a particular way. You need to provide evidence that the trademark holder has given permission for their logo to be released under a free license, otherwise GFDL does not apply. --IllaZilla (talk) 01:24, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Put that in my talk page, please. Renegade ^Mons†er 01:51, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Eh? Why do I need to do that? You already received a bot notice when I tagged the article. I like to keep conversations in one place, so they don't become disjointed across multiple talk pages. Since you started the conversation here, I'm going to keep it here. You can certainly copy whatever you want over to your own talk page if you want to reference it, but I'm going to continue make my replies here. --IllaZilla (talk) 08:49, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Entonces no podremos conversar, lo siento, pero de donde yo vengo (Wikipedia en español) contestar en su propia discusión sin aviso alguno es de mal gusto. Renegade ^Mons†er 23:57, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Lo siento, pero no hablo Español. --IllaZilla (talk) 02:59, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Punks not deadI

I'm not editting punks not dead. I'm making an article for dogs of war. I'm using punks not dead to make the infobox. I'm not doing anything to punks not dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BEATWEAKer (talk • contribs) 23:45, 3 September 2012‎ (UTC)

I don't understand this comment. Neither of us have made any edits to anything called "punks not dead" on Wikimedia Commons (or on Wikipedia for that matter). I issued you warnings for uploading copyrighted content: Album covers and promotional band photos are copyrighted, and Commons only accepts free (non-copyrighted) material. Unless you are the artist who created the album cover, the photographer who took the promotional photograph, or you somehow hold the copyright on it through other means (such as being a representative of the record label) then you don't have the legal right to claim it as your own work or to publish it under a free license. That is copyright violation, which is against the law. I suggest you read Commons:Own work and Commons:Licensing to better familiarize yourself with the purpose and scope of Wikimedia Commons. --IllaZilla (talk) 00:14, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

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Affected:

• File:Alien Anthology Comic Con display.JPG

--  Gazebo (talk) 08:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

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Affected:

• File:Alien Anthology Comic Con display.JPG

Yours sincerely, .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:28, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Why are you removing the photographers credit from the file name?

Please do not do that & undo your modification ASAP. You do not have a valid reason to modify my files name. I donate the file in that manner so as to assure proper credit if used outside the project. --WPPilot (talk) 04:20, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Please do not remove author preferred suffixes like "by author name" while renaming a file. It is a common practice followed by many users here. Discuss at VP if you have any disagreement. See User_talk:Ellin_Beltz#Can_you_assist_me_here too. Jee 07:06, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

It has always been my impression that filenames should be descriptive of what the image displays, and that authorship A) belongs in the image description rather than the filename, and B) is always attributed in the file's upload history in any case. I made the change while harmonizing the filenames in Category:San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station, which were a mess of meaningless, ambiguous, and overly long filenames. I apologize if one of my moves upset the uploader, but you are free to move it to restore the author name if you wish. --IllaZilla (talk) 17:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

File:King Diamond Logo.png

Hello. Based on the examples given here, I think this logo is probably in the PD in the US too. This is a touchy subject and there were many DR's closed in many contradictory ways. I think Commons still has to improve its policy in this field, based on cases like the ones listed in COM:TOO. I try to close the DR based on these examples, but there is always some subjectivity. Best regards, BrightRaven (talk) 07:09, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Frank Buck - Tiger cover.jpg

This media was probably deleted.

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Smooth_O (talk) 10:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

File:Alien logo.svg

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Sreejith K (talk) 14:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

File:Harry Wegeforth bust at San Diego Zoo.JPG

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FastilyClone (talk) 08:45, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

File:King Tut cockatoo statue at San Diego Zoo.JPG

File:King Tut cockatoo statue at San Diego Zoo.JPG has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

FastilyClone (talk) 08:45, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

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Correction needed on Probot singers combined image to fix Eric Wagner photo

The combined singer image on the Wikipedia Probot album article has a photo of Kory Clarke instead of Eric Wagner. Clarke was the second singer for the band Trouble. The image should be updated to include File:Eric_Wagner.jpg. Incorrect image: File:Probot singers.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwrigh14 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Dwrigh14 (talk) 01:21, 5 August 2021 (UTC)