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Kanonkas(talk) 16:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Pay attention to copyright Image:Pitt Jolie.jpg has been marked as a copyright violation. The Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose. For details on what is acceptable, please read Commons:Licensing. You can ask questions about Commons policies in Commons:Help desk.

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Kanonkas(talk) 16:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Pay attention to copyright Image:Elisabeth Frink 001.jpg has been marked as a copyright violation. Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose. For details on what is acceptable, please read Commons:Licensing. You can ask questions about Commons policies in Commons:Help desk.

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-Pruneautalk 11:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm a bit confused about this picture. You state it comes from this website yet you're using {{GFDL-self}} as if the picture were your own. Are you the author of the website? According to the website, the pictures were gathered from other sites. Also, there is no evidence of a GFDL license. Could you please clarify? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:21, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Qui sopra in pratica l'utente ti chiede di chiarire come mai dichiari che l'immagine in oggetto proviene da questo sito ma contemporaneamente usi un tag di copyright che ti indica come autore. Inoltre, nel sito non ci sono evidenze che l'immagine è sotto GFDL, e sempbra che il webmaster non sia sempre l'autore delle fotografie, avendole magari importate da altri siti (forse senza autorizzazione). Sei sicuro di non aver fatto una violazione di copyright caricando qui su Commons una fotografia che in effetti non è GFDL?
En passant, sarebbe meglio che usassi il babel per indicare agli altri utenti che lingue parli ;) --Trixt (talk) 20:13, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hai aggiunto che l'immagine è di pubblico dominio. Che cosa è il motivo? L'opera rappresentata in questa immagine non è bidimensionale; l'autore della fotografia è protetto dal copyright. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Violazioni di copyright[edit]

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Ciao Diomede,

hai caricato parecchi file che sono violazioni di copyright e lo hai fatto malgrado le nostre richieste di non farlo e nonostante i nostri avvertimenti. Se non smetti di caricare immagini che non sono distribuite con una licenza libera sarai bloccato. Vedi Commons:Licenze per la politica sul copyright di Wikimedia Commons. Per favore lasciami un messaggio se hai ulteriori domande. jonny-mt 06:57, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't use PD-self when you are not the photographer of the picture you upload. Also, the photographer of a 3D object holds a copyright over their photograph even if the object represented is in the Public Domain. So Image:Protesilaus 001.jpg is a violation of copyright. Please read Commons:Derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image Tagging Image:Aeneas.jpg[edit]

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Unless the permission information is given, the image may be speedy deleted after seven days. Thank you. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Problemi con l'immagine: Image:Himeros_and_Paris.jpg[edit]

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Grazie per aver caricato Image:Himeros_and_Paris.jpg. Questa immagine non ha le informazioni sui permessi. E' stata fornita una fonte, ma non c'è una prova valida che indichi che l'autore o il detentore del copyright acconsente di rilasciare il file sotto la licenza che hai scelto. Per favore, fornisci un link ad una pagina con le informazioni sulla licenza o manda un'email con una copia del permesso scritto a OTRS (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org).

Se le informazioni sul permesso non sono fornite, l'immagine potrebbe essere cancellata dopo sette giorni. Grazie. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Caricamento immagini[edit]

Per favore, non effettuare più altri caricamenti di immagini in violazione di copyright; ulteriori violazioni non potrebbero essere tollerate, e la tua utenza sarebbe bloccata. In particolare, non dichiarare di essere autore o detentore del copyright su un file se non lo sei veramente, dichiari il falso, così (probabilmente lo fai involontariamente, ma tieni presente che usando il tag {{PD-self}} fai proprio questo, anche se nella descrizione scrivi la reale provenienza). Tieni presente inoltre che, anche se il soggetto di una fotografia è un oggetto antico, occorre tener conto dei diritti del fotografo (quindi non puoi caricare fotografie di altri, a meno che non siano state esplicitamente rese libere). Se hai dubbi o problemi, contatta me o scrivi al Commons:Bar italiano prima di caricare. Grazie--Trixt (talk) 18:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful informations about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

This message was added automatically by kwjbot, if you need some help about it, ask its master (Kwj2772) or go to the Commons:Help desk. --Kwj2772 14:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Grazie per aver caricato Image:Gian_Lorenzo_Bernini_002.jpg. Ho notato che la pagina dell'immagine attualmente non specifica chi ha creato il contenuto, cosicché lo stato del copyright non è chiaro. Se non hai creato tu questo file allora dovrai spiegare come mai avremmo il diritto di usarlo su Wikimedia Commons (vedi i tag per l'attribuzione del copyright sotto). Se non hai creato tu il file allora dovrai inoltre specificare dove l'hai trovato; se per esempio l'hai preso da un sito web, dovrai indicare il link del sito da dove l'hai prelevato e i termini d'uso di quel file. Se il contenuto è un'opera derivata o è un lavoro protetto da copyright, dovrai mettere il nome dell'autore e anche la licenza originale.

Se il file non ha un tag di copyright, dovrai aggiungerne uno. Se hai creato tu stesso l'immagine o il file audio o video allora puoi usare {{self|cc-by-sa-3.0}} per rilasciarlo sotto la licenza di Creative Commons o {{PD-self}} per rilasciarlo nel pubblico dominio. Vedi tag per l'attribuzione del copyright per la lista completa dei tag per il copyright che puoi usare.

Nota bene che ogni file sprovvisto di fonte e licenza sarà cancellato dopo una settimana che l'avrai caricato, come descritto nei criteri per la cancellazione immediata. Se hai caricato altri file, per favore controlla di aver specificato la loro fonte e di aver attribuito il corretto tag. Puoi controllare tutti i file che hai caricato guardando la galleria. Grazie.Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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PD-Art e statue[edit]

Una volta per tutte, non è possibile usare PD-Art per statue. La maggior parte di tue immagine sono violazioni di copyright. Se non smetti, sarai bloccato. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, Diomede!
Tip: Add categories to your files
Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

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1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

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For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

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This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT (talk) 05:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Grazie per aver caricato File:Martyrdom_of_Saint_Perpetua.jpg. Ho notato che la pagina dell'immagine attualmente non specifica chi ha creato il contenuto, cosicché lo stato del copyright non è chiaro. Se non hai creato tu questo file allora dovrai spiegare come mai avremmo il diritto di usarlo su Wikimedia Commons (vedi i tag per l'attribuzione del copyright sotto). Se non hai creato tu il file allora dovrai inoltre specificare dove l'hai trovato; se per esempio l'hai preso da un sito web, dovrai indicare il link del sito da dove l'hai prelevato e i termini d'uso di quel file. Se il contenuto è un'opera derivata o è un lavoro protetto da copyright, dovrai mettere il nome dell'autore e anche la licenza originale.

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Jastrow (Λέγετε) 19:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BoschTheCrucifixionOfStJulia.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Copyright violations[edit]

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Hello Diomede.

You have uploaded one or more files that are copyright violations. You have done so despite requests from editors not to do so, and despite their instructions. See Commons:Licensing for the copyright policy on Wikimedia Commons. You may also find Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter useful.

This is your last warning. The next time you upload a file that violates copyright, you will be blocked. Please leave me a message if you have further questions.

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