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Martin H. (talk) 14:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

2 things.

  • The image cant be public domain. If the author take the photo in 1939 he must have died imidiatly after the shot - copyright last lifetime of the author +70 years, so if he died in 1939 the photo will be copyright free 2010.
  • Der Spiegel is not the author. Der Spiegel is a german weekly newspaper established in 1947. More: Copyright is not transferable in germany (except only the instrument of heir), so Der Spiegel cant even be the author. The author in Germany is always a person - who must died 70 years ago.

We have a lot of Hitler images in Category:Adolf Hitler, so there is no need to upload copyvios. Probably the image was taken by Hitlers photograper, Hoffmann, so copyright will expire in 2028. Regars, --Martin H. (talk) 14:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


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Martin H. (talk) 15:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Hallo Darl, es ist mir zu spät aufgefallen, dass du Deutsch sprichst. Ganz generell: Der Autor eines Bildes ist nicht unbekannt, wenn er nicht genannt ist. Auf deutschen Webseiten ist es (leider) üblich, nur den Vertreiber eines Bildes zu nennen, nicht aber den Fotografen. Ich sehe viele Probleme bei deinen Uploads, tut mir leid das sagen zu müssen. Eins habe ich bereits nominiert, da Bilder für Bilder des LIFE Magazines eigentlich das Urheberrecht erneuert wurde und somit das Bild noch etwas länger geschützt ist. Zum US Urheberrecht, welches hier Anwendung findet, siehe Opposing Copyright Extension - eine sehr hilfreiche Seite. Es geht aber weiter: Bei File:Der Schriftsteller Thomas Mann im Jahr 1926.jpg sagst du, der Autor sei Anonym. Deine Quelle ist eine Webseite, die das Bild von DPA/Picture-alliance bezieht. Hast du bei DPA nachgefragt ob der Autor bekannt ist? Andererseits kann diese Aussage doch garnicht getroffen werden. Der Autor ist "anonym" oder unbekannt, wenn er anonym oder unter einem Decknamen gearbeitet hat. Nur weil er nicht ordentlich dokumentiert wurde oder in einer einzigen Quelle nicht angegeben ist, ist ein Autor noch lange nicht unbekannt. Ein Portraitfoto sieht mir nicht danach aus, alls ob es von einem anonymen Autor erstellt wurde. Die Deutsche Wikipedia hat hier eine 100 Jahre Faustregel - diese ist auf Commons etwas schärfer. Im Falle eines nicht nachweisbaren Autors sind auch 100 Jahre alte Bilder die nicht in den USA erstveröffentlich wurden nicht aktzeptabel/aktzeptiert. Ich befürchte, dass ein großer Teil deiner Uploads so nicht in Ordnung ist. Auch z.b. File:Thomas Mann, Princeton 1939.jpg, das Bild ist noch keine 70 Jahre alt (Stichtag: 1.1.2010), biede Lizenzen sind also falsch. Ausserdem spielt auch dort US Urheberrecht mit rein. Oder Bilder von File:Thomas Mann in Sanary-sur-Mer 1933.jpg, die Quelle dieser Bilder trägt einen eindeutigen Urheberrechtsvermerk, ohne dort Kontakt herzustellen kann nicht einfach gesagt werden der Autor sei unbekannt. Ich bin kein Experte was Public domain betrifft, daher habe ich im Commons:Forum um Rat gefragt. --Martin H. (talk) 15:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


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Hallo Darldarl, bitte entferne keine Problemtags, ohne das eigentliche Problem zu beheben. Dass der Autor der Dateien nicht nur unbekannt ist, sondern bewusst anonym bleiben wollte, gilt es zu belegen. Wenn die Dateien also als anonyme Werke behalten werden sollen, musst du eine Quelle für diese Behauptung bringen und selber weitreichende Nachforschungen anstellen. Nur, weil die Quelle, von der du das Bild hast, keinen Autor hat, heißt das nicht, dass wir es hier mit einem anonymen Werk zu tun haben. Grüße, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 15:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


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--Dodo (talk) 11:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

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Hallo Darldarl,
hast du irgendwelche Beweise oder guten Gründe für die Annahme, dass Cover in File:Hans Magnus Enzensberger, Der Untergang der Titanic 1978.jpg gemeinfrei sei. Mal angenommen, dass Hintergrundbild wäre von mir (ist es nicht), dann wäre das Cover jedenfalls nicht gemeinfrei, sondern ein geschütztes Derivat. --Túrelio (talk) 17:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Hallo Túrelio,
ich nehme an das Hintergrundbild ist gemeinfrei da der Photograph im Grunde unbekannt ist und das Bild von keinem bestimmten, lokalisierbaren Ort handelt. Gruesse!--Darldarl (talk) 18:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Ähem, worauf basiert deine Aussage "da der Photograph im Grunde unbekannt ist"? Hast du das vom Verlag oder Coverdesigner? --Túrelio (talk) 19:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
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ahellwig (talk) 17:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Ich stimme da etwas zu, es sieht irgendwie nicht danach aus als ob das Werk dort permanent aufgestellt ist, also mit der intention dort hingestellt wurde nicht entfernt zu werden, sondern nur für kurze Zeit. Wenn es schon ein Schaufenster eines Verkaufsraums ist, ist das doch eher wahrscheinlich als zu behaupten es sei dort permanent plaziert. --Martin H. (talk) 19:59, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Gruss dich, Martin! Ich glaube wir durfen nicht so ganz kleinlich sein, wenn es um Thomas Bernhard geht. Ubrigens bin ich nicht der Hauptupoader des Bildes. Herzliche Grusse und Frohe Weihnachten!--Darldarl (talk) 20:25, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Hallo zusammen, solche nicht-trivialen Fälle sollten jedenfalls nicht durch einen Schnelllöschantrag entschieden werden, sondern bei Bedarf durch einen regulären Antrag entschieden werden, bei dem das dann ausführlich diskutiert werden kann. Viele Grüße, AFBorchert (talk) 20:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
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It is possible by Austrian copyright law, §54(5) to take pictures of works that are permanently located on public ways, streets or places and to distribute and publicly communicate such copies.--Darldarl (talk) 08:50, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Hallo Darldarl, das ist mir wohlbekannt. Die entscheidende Frage ist hier, wie es bereits Martin festgestellt hat, ob ein Bild in einer Schaufensterauslage als bleibende Installation betrachtet werden kann. Das wäre bei Schaufenstern eher ungewöhnlich. Es wäre hier ggf. hilfreich, wenn die Bildbeschreibung ergänzt werden könnte, um diesen Punkt näher zu erläutern. Jedenfalls kann so etwas meiner Meinung nach nicht per Schnelllöschantrag entschieden werden. Viele Grüße, AFBorchert (talk) 10:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Gruss euch zusammen. Der Original uploader des Bildes Mayer Bruno gibt folgende Erklarung:
"Frei zugänglicher offener Verkaufsraum vis à vis vom Bernhardhaus bei Ohlsdorf. Das gezeigte Werk befindet sich in einem ständig und dauerhaft frei zugänglichen öffentlichen Verkehrsraum (wie z.B. in einem öffentlichen Park), und wurde darin fotografisch aufgenommen."
Das soll meiner Meinung nach genugen. Ich personlich unterscheide zwischen einem "frei zugänglichen öffentlichen Verkehrsraum" und einer "Schaufensterauslage". Alles Gute, es ist Weinachtszeit!--Darldarl (talk) 08:51, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Darldarl

I am sorry, but the arrangement of the words on that cover is artistic. If you need I can restore it to post it in a DR. I can see that File:Uwe Greßmann, Schilda Komplex 1998.jpg is artistic also. It is of no logic to me that it can be ineligible for copyright. it is up to you to delete them or as I said send them to DR. --Tarawneh (talk) 07:58, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Tarawneh!
Please do it. Regards!--Darldarl (talk) 08:20, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

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