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IagoQnsi (talk) 18:02, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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IagoQnsi (talk) 23:44, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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{{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This seems weird to me, on a few counts:

  1. Why introduce a category with exactly one (subcategory) member?
  2. Half the parent categories don't exist.
  3. Neither of those nonexistent parent categories would apply to the one subcategory (almost all Pike Place Market stalls are permanent, and virtually none are street stalls. A few days a week, they set up a handful of temporary street stalls, but there are over 100 permanent, non-street stalls). - Jmabel ! talk 14:54, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Let me point out that you should have been able to answer all of these questions by yourself by browsing the parent category Category:Market stalls in the United States and its ancestors.
Your question My response
Why introduce a category with exactly one (subcategory) member? Because when I create US state-level categories, people actually use them and they seem to fill up within a year or two of my creating them. See Category:Tractors in Washington (state) and peers, Category:Kayaks in West Virginia and peers, Category:People wearing hats in Maryland and peers, etc., etc., etc. Somebody whined about how Category:Black and white photographs of buildings in Boston only contained a few images when I created it in 2021 and now at 357+ images (as of this writing), it is itself in need of diffusion.

Also, are you claiming that nobody ever will upload images of market stalls at Spokane's Riverfront Market, Tacoma's Farmer's or Night Markets, Vancouver's Farmer's or Night Markets, etc., etc., etc?

Half the parent categories don't exist Are you familiar with en:WP:REDDEAL and en:WP:BRICK BY BRICK?
Neither of those nonexistent parent categories would apply to the one subcategory (almost all Pike Place Market stalls are permanent, and virtually none are street stalls. A few days a week, they set up a handful of temporary street stalls, but there are over 100 permanent, non-street stalls). Then why aren't you complaining about the categorization of Category:Market stalls which is a subcategory of Category:Temporary structures? Why aren't you complaining about the categorization of Category:Market stalls by country, which is a subcategory of Category:Temporary structures by country?

In fact, when you created Category:Market stalls at Pike Place Market back in 2017, you were the one who placed it in Category:Market stalls in the United States which had been created in 2014 with the same categories that you now find objectionable in 2022. You had no problems with the categorization of Category:Market stalls in the United States then or now, but somehow now that I've started to diffuse market stalls in the United States into state-level subcategories, it all "seems weird" to you. Is it really "weird", or do you just maintain a double standard: one easy standard for yourself and your cadre and another "must be 100% perfect" standard for editors who aren't part of your clique?

(Generally) If you really find the categorization of the state-level market stalls that offensive, then why don't you take the constructive approach and differentiate between temporary and permanent (or more accurately semi-permanent) market stalls starting at Category:Market stalls and working down through its subcategories? Why not differentiate between indoor and outdoor market stalls, again, starting at Category:Market stalls? Why continue to ignore en:WP:SOFIXIT?
-- DanielPenfield (talk) 18:34, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Jmabel ! talk 18:59, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/03/Category:DPM camouflage pattern of the Ghanian military[edit]

Your view would be appreciated here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2022/03/Category:DPM_camouflage_pattern_of_the_Ghanian_military Dreddmoto (talk) 22:32, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DanielPenfield, I wonder if you would care to comment on the discussion you started here. -- Mdd (talk) 15:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

Hello, why'd you add categories for the year 1929 in this Revision of File:12 year old girl wins Medal of Honor, Washington, D.C., Sept. 12. Photo shows Miss Kathryn Van Horn of White City, Ohio, leaving the White House just after President Roosevelt had presented LCCN2016878462.jpg, when that photo was clearly taken in 1936? (I've already corrected those categories.) Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 21:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a typo. Why did you bother leaving a message here if you were just going to fix it yourself? -- DanielPenfield (talk) 21:32, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was not a typo, but a copypaste error (unless you were using the ten-key section of the keyboard). And I was just worried you might have made that sort of mistake with other files that day. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 21:40, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please indent your replies per COM:Talk page guidelines. Why are you so concerned? Reviewing my changes for that day is easy--see [1]. That edit doesn't look like any of those adjacent, so thank you for nitpicking my characterization of it as a typographical error. Also per WP:Be bold, "If you notice an unambiguous error or problem that any reasonable person would recommend fixing, the best course of action may be to be bold and fix it yourself rather than bringing it to someone's attention in the form of a comment or complaint." Are you looking to "punish" me for a simple error? -- DanielPenfield (talk) 23:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why on Earth would I wanna punish you for it?
By the way, that particular photo is one of my "prized" Commons files. See, even though I did not upload it, I did find the relevant news articles about the girl it depicts. (It surely wasn't easy to find the Newspapers.com clipping of that article without a Newspapers.com account, but I managed!)
No, I do NOT think you ruined the file with your mistake. Just letting you know why I asked you about that mistake in the first place. Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 20:50, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:MarionDaviesFurcoat.jpg[edit]

Hello. What led you to conclude that File:MarionDaviesFurcoat.jpg was photographed in Canada? en:Tillie the Toiler (1927 film) says it was shot in Hollywood. Wondering, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 14:25, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was a bulk move via cat-a-lot--I'm in the middle of correcting the dozens that I miscategorized. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 15:19, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Loves Monuments in the United States 2023[edit]

Hello! In 2021, you contributed to Wiki Loves Monuments in the United States. Thanks to people like you, it was a great success with over 500 people contributing over 5,500 photos of cultural and historic sites from all over the country. Hundreds of these photos now help illustrate Wikipedia articles, improving our open knowledge about United States history, culture, and heritage. You can see the top-ten winners of the US competition here.

While the United States did not participate in Wiki Loves Monuments in 2022, I'm pleased to say that we're back for 2023 through the month of October! I'd like to welcome you to participate once again in the event. Check out our 2023 event page for more information.

Once again, thank you for participating in Wiki Loves Monuments 2021, and we hope to see you again in this year's event! If you have any questions, please leave them on the event talk page.

Thanks, ~Kevin Payravi (talk) 09:12, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Views of Boston from above[edit]

Hi! I removed the category from File:Boston Faneuil Hall.jpg because this really doesn't look like an image from above to me. The building is pretty much at eye-level. But it's fine by me if it does to you. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 18:51, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So what's the rule you're using? If the photograph is taken from an upper floor of Boston City Hall, it's not a "view of Boston from above" if Faneuil Hall's third floor is roughly at eye level? Does that make any photograph of Faneuil Hall from street level a "view of Boston from below", for example
? Does that make any photograph of any multistory building from street level a "view from below"? -- DanielPenfield (talk) 20:06, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Help desk[edit]

Hi. Why was this edit necessary?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:03, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for refusing to COM:AGF. The edit in question is actually this one, not the one you cite. I was unaware until your inquiry that I had inadvertently added newlines to my update. I can't believe it rises to the level of "crime" worth whatever punishment you appear to intend to mete out. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 23:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re: overuse[edit]

First of all, thank you for making that template. :) I find it very useful. Guidelines on template/doc are also yours, but I disagree about such narrow usage. Which "trade" and "international politics" topics can template connect? Nothing crosses my mind. I prefer it for three reasons: first, it's a little bit "tribal" that we use only country-related templates for global cities. It's not that much big, on computer it produces very few lines on top. Secondly, it helps with general categorization, it's easier to jump around the world. Thirdly, and strictly personally (ILIKEIT), I adore to compare many topics, from architectural details to many bizarre things. Nowhere else it's possible. That were my reasons, but I'm leaving the final decision to you. Take care. :) --Orijentolog (talk) 10:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Jmabel ! talk 02:43, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]