User talk:Andros64/Archive 2

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Admin abuse

This is a wiki. Editting image description pages is not admin abuse. So don't call it like that. Admin abuse is when an administrator who is in personal conflict with you would block you. -- Bryan (talk to me) 16:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

re: user:Polarlys - proponuję ograniczyć się do samego szablonu PD-Polish, bo komentarz a trivial photo, which shouldn't be a subject of copyright at all nic nie wnosi, jest zaognianiem sytuacji; poza tym jest to opinia kontrowersyjna (patrzę na Image:Wacław Komar.jpg - dobre zdjęcie portretowe wcale nie jest trywialne). Trudno na Twojej opinii o jakości pracy fotografa opierać licencję zdjęcia. A komentarz admin abuse to trollowanie. Z obroną PD-Polish jest już dość kłopotu i bez takich akcji. // tsca [re] 16:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Could you translate this for me please? :-) Regards, --Polarlys 16:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Zgadzam się z tym, co piszesz (i tu i na PL) - chodziło mi tylko o zaognianie sytuacji. Z drugiej strony, nie dziwię Ci się, bo reakcje mam podobne :) W każdym razie, zarzut "nie znamy obywatelstwa fotografa" nie może być podstawą do usunięcia zdjęcia, bo wg prawa autorskiego z 1952 chodzi nie tylko o prace Polaków, ale również o prace, które zostały opublikowane po raz pierwszy w Polsce (zmieniłem treść szablonu PD-Polish). To nie jest oczywiście rozwiązanie, ale rozmywa trochę sytuację i część debat można zawiesić z komentarzem "sprawa wyjaśniana jest w dyskusji o ważności szablonu PD-Polish". Natomiast jeśli masz coś sensownego do poczytania w tej sprawie - pisałeś Julowi kiedyś o pdf-ach - to chętnie się zapoznam. // tsca [re] 11:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


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Sourcing

Hoi Andros, thank you for taking an interest in the alledged PD images from WWII I tagged yesterday. Please provide websources if possible for all the images. Cheers! Siebrand 07:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Licencje

Witaj

Zauważyłem ze wstawiłes uzasadnienie licencji do wielu fotek User talk:Belissariusa. Zrobiłeś wszystkie ? NIe podejrzewałbym jego o jakieś namiętne łamanie praw autorskich więc moze te fotki wszystkie da sie uratowac. --Pmgpmg 10:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Wiesz -w taką pogode to ja mogę tylko pokategoryzować. Na licencjach sie absolutnie nie znam i nie chce wchodzi w to bagno. Walka z Niemcami, pisanie że to wszystko jest Rząd na Wygnaniu - dzięęęęki. Ale chciałem ci napisać ze zauważam twoje edycje i nie są one tak zupełnie niewidoczne. --Pmgpmg 15:45, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
plus plus. --Pmgpmg 16:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


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Please do not remove deletion requests

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Please see Commons:Deletion requests/Decorations by User:Andros64. --Polarlys 17:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Please do not remove deletion requests

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Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#User:Andros64_-_repeated_removal_of_deletion_templates. --Polarlys 09:55, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Please remain calm and collegial

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It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks! —LX (talk, contribs) 17:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I try to do my best . Everytime I have only remarks to subject , not personally .
All the best:
Andros64 18:25, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Please respect my request to keep discussions where they started, as this makes conversations easier to follow. I am watching this page, so I will see responses made here.
That's clearly not true. Looking at a few examples just from today, comments such as
  • "it is a problem of overactivity of User:Polarlys"[1]
  • "limit overactivity of our collegue - not president of Wiki :) User:Polarlys"[2]
  • "Your attitude towards illegible photos may be remarked as admin abuse and vandalism. Don't blackmail m e please." [3]
are clearly ad hominem arguments. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
If User:Polarlys takes any argument personally , I'm sorry. But the real subject is to respect the rule to notify every editions tl:nosource to uploaders of image to give a possibility to correct info of the image. It is not question of good or bad will , but a duty of admin in Commons.
The only goal of my remarks is to remind Polarlys, that he has to respect some basic rules of the game in Wiki.
Tagging with nosource is not and cannot be an easy ( speedy) way for deleting images without control and discussion in Wiki community.
I hope you can explain it him probably in more moderate mood.
With best wishes: Andros64 19:05, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Again, please respect my request to keep discussions in one piece where they started (that is: respond here). I am watching this page, so I will see responses made here.
If that is your point, then make that your point (and please back up your claims by linking to specific cases where you think the uploader wasn't notified). Don't make unfounded accusations about abuse of administrative powers (adding {{Nsd}} is not an action which requires administrative privileges) and snide remarks.
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Please do not recreate deleted images

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Your image or other content , Image:Order Zasługi RP.jpg, was recently deleted in accordance with our process and policies. You have recreated this content after it was deleted. Please do not do that. If you would like to contest the deletion, please visit Commons:Undeletion requests and follow the instructions there to have the deletion reviewed.

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Re:File:Order Zasługi RP

I wouldn't like to take part in nonsensable edit wars.For information : The previous uploaded Order Zasługi RP was self-made. I've inform Polarlys that www.polska-ukraina.pl, where he found the copy of this photo is a page of my own.

Reuploading this image I've given the source as www.polska-ukraina.pl , and notice, that in any questions an doubts it's easy to mailto: andros@polska-ukraina.pl

In case of deleteted images of Order of White Eagle, it was photos of exhibit from free exhibition of Polish Governmental Mint and it is possible that this particular exhibit was photographed not only by myself :))

In any case there are illegible photos ( without any individual features which make possible securing it by copyright law according to regulations of Berne Convention and Polish copyright law). The are simply photos of artefacts made by photograph-amateur.

All these I've written on the page of discussion. Two days after images were without any further discussion deleted. ( Take a look at the page of discussion)

There were made several year before, so argument of Polarlys, that in effect to proove the authenticity of my work I have to give photo of professional resolution is unreasonable and unjustifiable. Besides it is curious , unusual, simly - just unexpected request for uploader.

I reserve to return to this question in the future. However - first - free use of self-made work is copyright violation the same way as an masturbation is a rape.

In this case we have no copyvio at all, and the deletion was unjustifiable and unreasonable. For today it is at least evidence of copyright paranoia and overactivity of some of our collegues.

Best regards for everybody: Andros64 09:48, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Right, it's precisely because we don't want edit wars that we don't allow images that were deleted as a result of a deletion request discussion to be recreated without going through Commons:Undeletion requests. Please present your arguments there so that others may evaluate them, rather than on various user talk pages or by recreating the images. No administrator is going to unilaterally restore your images or allow the images to be re-uploaded based on comments made outside of Commons:Undeletion requests, and in order not to encourage undeletion requests being made elsewhere, I will not address arguments for undeletion made elsewhere.
I will, however, remind you once again that you do need to be civil. Please state your case without making personal attacks about "overactivity" or "paranoia". As I have already cautioned you about this once in the past, there will be no further warnings if you keep pathologising your fellow contributors.
There is no need to duplicate messages regarding this matter on my user talk page. I am watching your user talk page and Commons:Undeletion requests.
—LX (talk, contribs) 16:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:WBK w galopie przez Sochaczew.jpg

Zobacz Image:Polish cavalry in Sochaczew (1939).jpg. Ma pan bardzo imponującą koleksję zdieć na commons. Ja tesz zaczynam po woli dodawać. --Jarekt 03:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Dziekuje za porady. Dużo się nauczyłem czytając pana User talk:Andros64. Brak informacji na temat autorów większości Polskich zdięć z drugiej wojny jest problemem. Wiekszość polskich książek nie wspominało fotografa, poniewasz zdięcia te były "public domain" w 10 lat po zrobieniu zdjęcie, więc od 1955 do 1994. Mam około 60 bardzo dobrych skanów z odbitek fotograficznych, niestety a wiekszości wypadków nie wiem czy zdięcia te były kiedykolwiek opublikowane. --Jarekt 13:48, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


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