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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,900 Vice President Biden: We're going to be relatively brief here. 2 00:00:01,900 --> 00:00:02,770 Thank you for being here. 3 00:00:02,767 --> 00:00:08,067 I'm going to ask Victoria, who was responsible for 4 00:00:08,066 --> 00:00:12,136 drafting this significant report here, to make a 5 00:00:12,133 --> 00:00:13,303 couple opening statements. 6 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:15,470 And I'm going to have a few things to say. 7 00:00:15,467 --> 00:00:18,737 And then -- and then we're going to get down to the business of 8 00:00:18,734 --> 00:00:20,134 how we implement all this. 9 00:00:20,133 --> 00:00:21,763 Victoria, the floor is yours. 10 00:00:21,767 --> 00:00:25,467 Ms. Espinel: Thank you. When Congress this office: the office of the first 11 00:00:25,467 --> 00:00:28,067 United States Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator, 12 00:00:28,066 --> 00:00:32,036 they envisioned an ambitious plan on intellectual property enforcement. 13 00:00:32,033 --> 00:00:34,663 And I am proud to sit here today and say that this administration 14 00:00:34,667 --> 00:00:36,597 has delivered such a plan. 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,170 First, let me thank the vice president for his leadership. 16 00:00:39,166 --> 00:00:41,696 I also want to thank the Cabinet members and their excellent 17 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:45,200 teams for the long hours they have committed and will continue 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,430 to commit to protecting America's ideas and ingenuity. 19 00:00:49,433 --> 00:00:52,733 We received and reviewed more than 1,600 public comments in 20 00:00:52,734 --> 00:00:55,834 putting together this strategy, all of which are on our website 21 00:00:55,834 --> 00:00:56,904 for you to read. 22 00:00:56,900 --> 00:00:59,270 These responses describe the problems facing the American 23 00:00:59,266 --> 00:01:03,596 workers, artists, engineers and scientists and provided many 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,800 recommendations for how their government could help. 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,870 I met face to face with the people who live with these 26 00:01:08,867 --> 00:01:11,737 issues day to day, the small businesses concerned about 27 00:01:11,734 --> 00:01:14,864 losing jobs to counterfeiting, the clean-tech company whose 28 00:01:14,867 --> 00:01:17,797 investors are concerned about theft overseas, 29 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,600 and entertainment production workers and technicians whose 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,630 pension funds are at risk as piracy drains their funding. 31 00:01:24,633 --> 00:01:27,303 These meetings with and comments from the public helped us to 32 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:30,730 identify 33 action items to combat 33 00:01:30,734 --> 00:01:33,134 intellectual property infringement. 34 00:01:33,133 --> 00:01:35,663 These fall into six broad categories. 35 00:01:35,667 --> 00:01:38,867 First, we will lead by example, and we will ensure that the 36 00:01:38,867 --> 00:01:42,767 United States government does not use infringing products. 37 00:01:42,767 --> 00:01:46,567 Second, we will be transparent and we will ensure that the 38 00:01:46,567 --> 00:01:48,197 public has good information about our 39 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,800 policies and our actions. 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,970 Third, we will improve coordination to increase 41 00:01:53,967 --> 00:01:56,337 our efficiency and our effectiveness. 42 00:01:56,333 --> 00:01:58,663 Fourth, we will work with foreign governments to 43 00:01:58,667 --> 00:02:00,497 enforce our rights overseas. 44 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:03,700 We will go after foreign-based websites and other entities that 45 00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:06,070 violate American intellectual property rights, 46 00:02:06,066 --> 00:02:08,696 and we will prioritize enforcement in important 47 00:02:08,700 --> 00:02:11,100 foreign markets such as China. 48 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:13,830 Fifth, we will secure our domestic supply chain, 49 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:15,764 give law enforcement more authority, 50 00:02:15,767 --> 00:02:18,737 and we will encourage voluntary cooperation by the private 51 00:02:18,734 --> 00:02:21,304 sector to reduce infringing products that are entering 52 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:24,600 our country through our borders and over the Internet. 53 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,130 Finally, we will collect better data so that we understand the 54 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:31,503 jobs and the exports that are tied to intellectual property. 55 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:35,670 And we will also assess our laws to ensure they are as effective 56 00:02:35,667 --> 00:02:38,797 as possible in order to combat theft of our ideas 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,500 and our creativity. 58 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,370 As a result of what we, the United States government, 59 00:02:43,367 --> 00:02:45,697 have committed to do in this plan, 60 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:48,270 I say to those that are suffering from infringement, 61 00:02:48,266 --> 00:02:49,696 help is on the way. 62 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:51,670 We understand the problems that you face, 63 00:02:51,667 --> 00:02:53,697 and we will work to make things better. 64 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:57,000 We will protect you so that you can get back to doing what you 65 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,300 do best, which is developing America's next great idea. 66 00:03:01,300 --> 00:03:03,870 To those who have for too long abused the rights of America's 67 00:03:03,867 --> 00:03:06,867 creators, I have a warning for you: We are committed to putting 68 00:03:06,867 --> 00:03:08,537 you out of business. 69 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:10,903 Now that we have unveiled our first joint strategic 70 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:13,100 plan on intellectual property enforcement, 71 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,200 the hard work of implementing it begins, 72 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,670 to ensure that we are protecting our citizens, 73 00:03:17,667 --> 00:03:20,297 our businesses and our workers. 74 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:21,970 I look forward to working with the president, 75 00:03:21,967 --> 00:03:24,097 the vice president, the Cabinet members, 76 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:27,670 the Congress and our public as we move forward with the goal of 77 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:30,237 protecting America's intellectual property rights and 78 00:03:30,233 --> 00:03:34,833 the American jobs, growth and prosperity that come with them. 79 00:03:34,834 --> 00:03:34,964 Thank you. 80 00:03:34,967 --> 00:03:35,737 Vice President Biden: Thank you very much. 81 00:03:35,734 --> 00:03:37,134 And by the way, thanks for this report. 82 00:03:37,133 --> 00:03:39,703 This is a really thorough report. 83 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:42,630 I've been doing -- I've been engaged in this -- back in 84 00:03:42,633 --> 00:03:45,733 the days as chairman of the Judiciary Committee -- 85 00:03:45,734 --> 00:03:48,104 I've been engaged in this for a long, long time. 86 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:49,600 The problem's not new. 87 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,970 It's getting worse, but the problem's not new. 88 00:03:51,967 --> 00:03:54,937 And one of the things that's been lacking, in my view, 89 00:03:54,934 --> 00:03:58,634 is a comprehensive approach and getting everybody in the deal. 90 00:03:58,633 --> 00:04:02,303 And so what we're going to be talking about later is how we 91 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:05,470 implement some of these 30-plus recommendations. 92 00:04:05,467 --> 00:04:11,137 But, you know, to state it very bluntly and obviously, 93 00:04:11,133 --> 00:04:12,733 piracy hurts. 94 00:04:12,734 --> 00:04:15,404 It hurts our economy to the tune of billions; 95 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,300 some argue tens of billions, of dollars in lost private-sector 96 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:20,430 profit and government revenue. 97 00:04:20,433 --> 00:04:24,033 It hurts our health and safety, the health and safety -- that's 98 00:04:24,033 --> 00:04:26,563 why the FDA commissioner is here, in part. 99 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:29,167 But we don't usually think of it this way. 100 00:04:29,166 --> 00:04:32,296 It hurts the health and safety of our citizens. 101 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:35,030 We need to protect our citizens from unsafe products, 102 00:04:35,033 --> 00:04:38,903 counterfeit auto parts, semiconductors used in 103 00:04:38,900 --> 00:04:42,100 medical devices that aren't quality tested, 104 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:45,570 counterfeit pharmaceuticals that put lives at risk. 105 00:04:45,567 --> 00:04:49,937 Whether we're talking about fake drugs that hurt instead of help 106 00:04:49,934 --> 00:04:53,364 a patient, or knock-off car tires that fall apart at 65 107 00:04:53,367 --> 00:04:57,897 miles an hour, causing injury and death, counterfeits kill. 108 00:04:57,900 --> 00:04:59,500 Counterfeits kill. 109 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:03,800 There's a reason why that they counterfeit: They don't know 110 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,730 how to do it in the first place. 111 00:05:05,734 --> 00:05:09,064 And so it -- and also, to state the obvious, 112 00:05:09,066 --> 00:05:11,296 it stifles creativity. 113 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:14,830 Perhaps our greatest export -- perhaps our greatest export -- 114 00:05:14,834 --> 00:05:17,604 is America's creative impulse, our ability to move people 115 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,800 around the world through creativity works. 116 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,230 And it's been working and it's had dramatic impact on cultures. 117 00:05:24,233 --> 00:05:26,463 It's had dramatic impact on our interests. 118 00:05:26,467 --> 00:05:30,137 And criminals are working every day -- every day -- 119 00:05:30,133 --> 00:05:31,363 to steal it from us. 120 00:05:31,367 --> 00:05:35,267 And again, it's billions of dollars. 121 00:05:35,266 --> 00:05:41,796 And, look, we used to avoid saying this in this town: 122 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,200 Piracy is theft, clean and simple. 123 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,270 It's nothing but theft. 124 00:05:48,266 --> 00:05:51,266 It's smash and grab; no different than a guy walking 125 00:05:51,266 --> 00:05:54,766 down, you know, Fifth Avenue, and smashing the window of 126 00:05:54,767 --> 00:05:57,897 Tiffany's and reaching in and grabbing what's in the window. 127 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:01,100 This is theft, clear and simple. 128 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:04,600 And theft in every culture, people would acknowledge, 129 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,830 should be punished, and so intellectual property 130 00:06:08,834 --> 00:06:10,164 is no different. 131 00:06:10,166 --> 00:06:12,566 We need a true government-wide effort, 132 00:06:12,567 --> 00:06:14,467 and that's what's being proposed here, 133 00:06:14,467 --> 00:06:17,097 to deal with this pervasive theft. 134 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:23,900 In December, we met, and I said -- 135 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:28,330 the president's instruction and my long-time commitment and 136 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:31,403 all of us around here that we had to crack down on this, 137 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,530 we had to come up with a government-wide plan and all the 138 00:06:34,533 --> 00:06:37,833 members of the Cabinet had to take the challenge seriously. 139 00:06:37,834 --> 00:06:40,504 They have, they are and they will. 140 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:45,400 Customs has made nearly 10,000 seizures -- that's 30-percent 141 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,630 increase compared to last year. 142 00:06:47,633 --> 00:06:50,403 Over the last six months, the Department of Homeland Security, 143 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,300 Immigration and Customs Enforcement has -- have been 144 00:06:53,300 --> 00:06:56,000 really hard at work, have made 166 arrests, 145 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:01,430 seized goods values at -- valued at 350 million bucks. 146 00:07:01,433 --> 00:07:06,963 DHS has also formed a national network of international 147 00:07:06,967 --> 00:07:10,697 property theft enforcement teams around the country -- 148 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:12,970 they didn't exist before -- 22 of them. 149 00:07:12,967 --> 00:07:17,697 And they include 70 federal, state and local law partners 150 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:22,370 working together to deal with intellectual property theft. 151 00:07:22,367 --> 00:07:25,137 Look, the Intellectual Property Rights Center at Homeland 152 00:07:25,133 --> 00:07:29,003 Security is working with the private sector to target 153 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,670 criminals stealing and posting their movies on the Internet 154 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:36,737 before they're even released in movie theaters. 155 00:07:36,734 --> 00:07:37,464 Hard to believe. 156 00:07:37,467 --> 00:07:40,667 I mean, literally they're selling this so you can buy some 157 00:07:40,667 --> 00:07:44,167 of these breakthrough movies on the streets of China before 158 00:07:44,166 --> 00:07:46,566 they're shown in the first movie theater here in the 159 00:07:46,567 --> 00:07:47,837 United States. 160 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:49,864 Not just China by the way -- I'm not picking on China. 161 00:07:49,867 --> 00:07:51,297 There's a lot of other countries, 162 00:07:51,300 --> 00:07:53,500 including some of our close allies, 163 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:56,270 where they haven't acted appropriately. 164 00:07:56,266 --> 00:08:00,066 The Department of Justice has appointed 20 additional FBI 165 00:08:00,066 --> 00:08:03,436 special agents dedicated to IP enforcement. 166 00:08:03,433 --> 00:08:07,503 These agents joined the 31 agents already deployed to field 167 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:10,400 offices around the country devoted to investigating 168 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,430 intellectual property theft. 169 00:08:12,433 --> 00:08:18,663 DOJ has appointed another -- appointed 15 new prosecutors to 170 00:08:18,667 --> 00:08:20,837 get engaged in this fight. 171 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:24,334 And everyone around this table has taken steps to fight piracy. 172 00:08:24,333 --> 00:08:26,263 But we've got to do more, and that's what we're 173 00:08:26,266 --> 00:08:26,996 here to discuss. 174 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,500 Again, we have a clear game plan, 175 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:32,730 and it's about implementing this game plan. 176 00:08:32,734 --> 00:08:37,934 Today, as we've just been -- just been stated, 177 00:08:37,934 --> 00:08:41,764 in unveiling this game plan, we got to figure out now the detail 178 00:08:41,767 --> 00:08:44,067 of how to implement it, even though everybody was involved 179 00:08:44,066 --> 00:08:45,966 in the formation of this plan. 180 00:08:45,967 --> 00:08:48,437 The strategy is evidenced, as stated already, 181 00:08:48,433 --> 00:08:53,103 as 33 -- 33 specific items. 182 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:56,270 And I just want to highlight a few, and then we'll -- I'll end. 183 00:08:56,266 --> 00:08:58,236 Federal law enforcement is beginning to target 184 00:08:58,233 --> 00:09:03,503 websites and others that are trafficking in pirated goods. 185 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:06,770 And we have made sure that the countries in which these 186 00:09:06,767 --> 00:09:12,667 websites emanate from know that we want those sites shut down. 187 00:09:12,667 --> 00:09:14,937 Now, the difference here is we've talked about that before 188 00:09:14,934 --> 00:09:17,734 with the -- we're going to shine a light now, 189 00:09:17,734 --> 00:09:19,904 that the website is open. 190 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:23,370 If it's clearly involved in piracy in a country that's not 191 00:09:23,367 --> 00:09:26,237 taking action, we're going to be as public as we possibly 192 00:09:26,233 --> 00:09:29,963 can about the fact they're not acting. 193 00:09:29,967 --> 00:09:31,797 And there needs to be action. 194 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,430 As we shine a spotlight on foreign governments that have 195 00:09:34,433 --> 00:09:38,733 rogue actors doing illicit business within their borders, 196 00:09:38,734 --> 00:09:41,764 it's the government's responsibility to respond. 197 00:09:41,767 --> 00:09:45,067 And we'll be proposing legislation -- it's in the 198 00:09:45,066 --> 00:09:49,136 process of being drafted now -- to require companies to notify 199 00:09:49,133 --> 00:09:52,663 the FDA when they find counterfeit products. 200 00:09:52,667 --> 00:09:54,667 Right now that's not a requirement. 201 00:09:54,667 --> 00:09:57,567 A company -- and there's incentives not to, 202 00:09:57,567 --> 00:10:01,637 not to let the FDA know, because they're worried about brand, 203 00:10:01,633 --> 00:10:05,203 they're worried about their reputations, they're worried. 204 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,000 But they -- we want a requirement, a requirement, 205 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,070 that the FDA has to be notified when any company 206 00:10:14,066 --> 00:10:18,096 finds counterfeit products among their products, 207 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:21,900 and give the FDA the ability to track those products. 208 00:10:21,900 --> 00:10:24,130 We're setting up a government-wide working group, 209 00:10:24,133 --> 00:10:28,833 to make sure our supply chain is free of counterfeit products. 210 00:10:28,834 --> 00:10:32,234 Now, look, whether we're talking about fake Kevlar vests, 211 00:10:32,233 --> 00:10:35,833 and there are fake Kevlar vests being purchased -- sold and 212 00:10:35,834 --> 00:10:38,404 purchased in the United States of America, 213 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,370 or a bolt that fails on an airplane engine, 214 00:10:41,367 --> 00:10:44,597 we can't afford to purchase fake goods. 215 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,230 This is not just about whether or not the new "Robin Hood" 216 00:10:47,233 --> 00:10:51,303 movie, which is a multi-million-dollar theft if 217 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:54,030 you take a look at it that way -- it's not just about whether 218 00:10:54,033 --> 00:10:58,203 or not our creative talent is being affected. 219 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,300 It's about whether or not you put a Kevlar vest on a guy in 220 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:04,670 Kandahar or a cop in the middle of one of our major cities -- 221 00:11:04,667 --> 00:11:07,237 whether it works. 222 00:11:07,233 --> 00:11:11,863 And so we -- we just want to make it real clear. 223 00:11:11,867 --> 00:11:13,297 We're going after people. 224 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:15,030 We're going after the websites. 225 00:11:15,033 --> 00:11:20,333 We're going to go after those folks who in fact sell us things 226 00:11:20,333 --> 00:11:23,063 that in fact have the effect of putting the 227 00:11:23,066 --> 00:11:25,796 lives of Americans in jeopardy. 228 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,400 The U.S. government also has to step in -- in place to ensure 229 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,730 that our agencies only use legal software. 230 00:11:33,734 --> 00:11:35,064 I know that sounds crazy. 231 00:11:35,066 --> 00:11:38,136 But we -- within the federal government, 232 00:11:38,133 --> 00:11:39,903 we are scrubbing all the agencies, 233 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:44,130 to make sure whatever software they're using is not counterfeit 234 00:11:44,133 --> 00:11:46,633 -- to make sure it is legal, it's real, 235 00:11:46,633 --> 00:11:50,063 it's the initial product, it's what it says it is. 236 00:11:50,066 --> 00:11:54,036 And we want now to go well beyond what we're doing, 237 00:11:54,033 --> 00:11:58,703 in each of the agencies, and anyone who contracts with us to 238 00:11:58,700 --> 00:12:02,130 do a federal project, to work with the federal government -- 239 00:12:02,133 --> 00:12:06,903 to ensure that they -- they are only using the real deal and not 240 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:11,370 a counterfeit, which is cheaper but also not reliable. 241 00:12:11,367 --> 00:12:15,467 We need to make the private sector -- we need the private 242 00:12:15,467 --> 00:12:20,397 sector to weigh in even more to address online theft of 243 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,530 intellectual property. 244 00:12:21,533 --> 00:12:26,233 Counterfeit drugs are a scourge and our consumers aren't safe, 245 00:12:26,233 --> 00:12:29,433 and they don't know what they're buying online, many times. 246 00:12:29,433 --> 00:12:33,533 I applaud Google, Yahoo and Bing for the steps they've taken in 247 00:12:33,533 --> 00:12:36,233 recent weeks to stop selling advertising to 248 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:38,433 illegal Internet pharmacies. 249 00:12:38,433 --> 00:12:41,163 But -- but we need to go further. 250 00:12:41,166 --> 00:12:43,566 It's time for others to step up to, 251 00:12:43,567 --> 00:12:47,337 it's time to stop supporting ads for drugs sold illegally over 252 00:12:47,333 --> 00:12:51,833 the Internet, and for a simple reason: for the public health of 253 00:12:51,834 --> 00:12:54,164 American -- of our population. 254 00:12:54,166 --> 00:12:57,596 And so look, the Internet delivery companies and movies, 255 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,370 television, recording industries all tell me that we need to have 256 00:13:01,367 --> 00:13:03,737 a strong and fair effort in supporting illegal 257 00:13:03,734 --> 00:13:05,504 downloads online. 258 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:08,800 There are discussions going on right now between the content 259 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,630 community and the Internet service providers. 260 00:13:11,633 --> 00:13:14,503 Everyone needs to be working together and pulling their 261 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:18,530 weight to fight the harm that is done to our economy and our 262 00:13:18,533 --> 00:13:22,103 people by this intellectual property theft. 263 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:26,030 And we hope that we can find a practical and effective way to 264 00:13:26,033 --> 00:13:27,733 reduce piracy online. 265 00:13:27,734 --> 00:13:33,134 But it takes cooperation between the content community as well as 266 00:13:33,133 --> 00:13:34,803 the Internet service providers. 267 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,000 Not easy, but absolutely necessary. 268 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,230 Again, there are 33 items in this report that has been done, 269 00:13:43,233 --> 00:13:49,633 33 specific recommendations, 33 ways we commit ourselves 270 00:13:49,633 --> 00:13:52,733 to deal with this scourge. 271 00:13:52,734 --> 00:13:55,364 And we're making progress. 272 00:13:55,367 --> 00:13:56,937 I've been around a while. 273 00:13:56,934 --> 00:13:57,734 It's good news. 274 00:13:57,734 --> 00:14:02,304 And the AFL-CIO, the Chamber of Commerce and law enforcement and 275 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:05,370 other diverse groups all are on the same page. 276 00:14:05,367 --> 00:14:07,897 That is a very encouraging development. 277 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:10,200 And now -- 278 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,100 (chuckles) 279 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,000 -- I'm not joking about that. 280 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,470 And now it's time -- we -- we have to bear down on 281 00:14:16,467 --> 00:14:18,337 implementing these recommendations. 282 00:14:18,333 --> 00:14:20,933 That's what, when you all leave, we're going to be talking about. 283 00:14:20,934 --> 00:14:26,634 And I thank you for taking the time to help us, quite frankly, 284 00:14:26,633 --> 00:14:30,763 get the word out to the American public but also to the 285 00:14:30,767 --> 00:14:34,197 counterfeiters that we're serious about this. 286 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,870 Thank you all very, very much.