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Mr. Gibbs:
Just one, quick, announcement
to read before we get started.

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The President spoke today
with King Abdullah of Jordan.

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They discussed efforts to
advance Middle East peace and

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how the U.S. and Jordan
could work together to achieve

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this goal. The President and the
King agreed on the need to 

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launch Israeli-Palestinian
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possible. They also agreed
that all parties -- Israel,

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the Palestines, and Arab
states -- should take steps

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simultaneously to create
a context in which these

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negotiations can succeed.

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The President underscored his
strong support for Jordan's

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efforts to work with other Arab
states to reach out to Israel,

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and undertake gestures that
would demonstrate the meaning of

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the Arab Peace Initiative.

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The President said that Special
Envoy Mitchell would follow up

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with the parties in the next few
weeks to finalize the steps they

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would take and lay the
groundwork for resumption of

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negotiations. And with that --

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The Press:
Well, now that you've
brought it up,

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did King Abdullah agree in any
way with the President's call

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for the wider Arab world
to show some goodwill?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, I think in
many ways that's the role

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King Abdullah has played in
helping to foster an environment

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where peace is possible.

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I hesitate to characterize
their side of the conversation.

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We're always a little
leery to do that.

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But the President is hopeful
that the meetings that he's had

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here this week and the phone
call -- the Mubarak meeting and

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the Abdullah phone call today --
that we are continuing to make

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progress on the path
toward a Middle East peace.

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The Press:
And does that optimism rise
or fall after this talk?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think the optimism
continues to rise.

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We're hopeful, and understand
that the road ahead will not be

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easy; it's a complex and
emotional set of issues that we

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look forward to
working through. Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Robert, two questions
on the budget.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, sir.

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The Press:
First of all, what
does the administration's

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decision to remove the $250
billion space holder from the

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budget say about your
take on bank health?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, I think when
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ago at the introduction of the
budget I think there was some

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concern based on the health
and stability of our financial

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system that more money
might be required,

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and the President and the
administration felt in order to

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be transparent about
our budgeting process,

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that we should include
that marker in there.

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Removing it I think underscores
the efforts that have been taken

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to rescue and rebuild the
economy through financial

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stabilization. Another
conversation that we had

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tests, and there was a lot of
consternation that at the end

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of these, we would likely need
hundreds of billions of extra

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dollars; that we now realize
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steps and actions to raise
almost all that money from

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private capital -- which I think
is obviously a good thing.

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We've discussed pulling the
economy back from the brink,

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and particularly the financial
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in order to restore
some confidence.

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We've even seen -- we've seen
banks pay back with interest the

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money that taxpayers used
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And one of the -- I think one
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Midsession Review we would
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$1.58 trillion rather than the
$1.8 trillion that the

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administration and the
Congressional Budget Office

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believed would be the case
just a few months ago.

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Part of that is the $250 billion
that is not needed because of

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the stability as a result of the
actions taken on the financial

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system, and outlays that are
$78 billion lower for FDIC.

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The Press:
Taking those out -- and
that makes sense that it

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would show some confidence in
the financial industry -- but

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how would you describe the
budget situation itself?

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Is the budget
situation improving,

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or is the budget
situation deteriorating?

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Mr. Gibbs:
The budget situation continues
to be a great challenge.

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Obviously -- I've talked in here
about one of the best ways to

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bring down our budget deficit
and to get fiscal responsibility

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is to get our economic house in
order and get the economy back

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on track. I think it's no
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the course of the last six or
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of that time, we have seen
the economy in a very,

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very steep decline
-- in some ways,

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in a steeper decline than
anybody had predicted.

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And I think the budget picture
in many ways will demonstrate

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that resulting deterioration.

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The Press:
It's continuing --

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Mr. Gibbs:
It continues to be
a hefty challenge.

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The Press:
What?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Hefty challenge.

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The Press:
The budget does?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes. Yes, sir.

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The Press:
The spokesman for Senate
Majority Leader Harry

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Reid said that while they intent
to -- their hope is that it will

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be a bipartisan health
care reform effort,

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they will get health care reform
accomplished "by any legislative

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means necessary."

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And I'm wondering if you could
walk us through -- obviously

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people in the White House have
been talking to each other,

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strategizing about different
ways that this can be done.

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First of all, could you comment
on today's Wall Street Journal

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story about the discussions
about possibly splitting up the

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bill? But also, what are the
thoughts -- obviously we all

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know that your intention is
that it be a bipartisan bill,

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but beyond that what
are you planning for?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I said this this morning.

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I have -- I read the
story in the Journal.

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I've tried to get
guidance from people.

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I have not been able to, largely
because many people we get that

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from are on vacation. We'll try
to get you better guidance on

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that in terms of
splitting up bills.

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The Press:
Jon, if you could give
Robert the numbers?

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(laughter)

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The Press:
That would be good.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I mean, Jonathan's story
also had in there that the

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President was going to meet with
advisors next week on this,

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and as I said in the
gaggle this morning,

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unless that is a meeting that
includes Marvin on a golf

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course, that's --

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The Press:
I did not say that.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Can somebody go get
me the newspaper

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The Press:
That was not supposed
to be on the budget.

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That was just supposed
to be on the --

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Mr. Gibbs
Maybe Jonathan could clear
it up for both of us.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
Are you going to take questions?

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
Sounds like he needs to.

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(laughter)

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No, let me discuss a little bit
-- obviously, our focus, as I

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said yesterday, is on continuing
this process in a bipartisan

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fashion. You heard the President
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reached out and spoken with
members of Congress,including

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members of the Finance Committee
over the past several days.

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The Press:
Republican members of Congress?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes. He talked with Senator
Olympia Snowe yesterday,

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talked with Senator
Conrad yesterday, and,

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as we've discussed, talked
with Senator Baucus on Friday.

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That's our focus, is continuing
to work this in a bipartisan

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way. I know the six senators on
the Finance Committee have a

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conference call slated,
according I think even to

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Jonathan's report and others,
that -- have a conference call

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on that tonight.

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The Press:
Does the White House
have a presence on

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that conference call?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Not that I'm aware of, no.

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I think this is part of the
regular negotiating sessions

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that they've had that we
have not taken part in.

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I am trying to get the extent to
which conversations have been

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had here looking into what
possibilities are next.

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I talked to the President
briefly about it,

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and all he said was our focus
was on doing something in a

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bipartisan way.

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The Press:
Do you agree with what Jim
Manley said about by

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any legislative means
necessary -- obviously,

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bipartisan being the
hope and the priority,

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but you're going
to get this done?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think the President
has said on a number

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of occasions that --
excellent, thank you.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
Wow.

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The Press:
What is that?

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Mr. Gibbs:
That's one, yes.

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You don't recognize
a newspaper, Chuck?

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(laughter)

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And all he did was mention
to me that our focus was

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on doing so in a bipartisan way.

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I think he'll continue even when
he's out next week to talk to

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members of Congress, including
additional members of the

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Finance Committee,
including Republicans.

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The Press:
He also said they --
Republicans conspired during the

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Clinton administration to
defeat any health legislation.

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He indicated they might
be doing the same.

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What do you think is going
to break through that?

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And why do you need them?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, as I said yesterday,

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we take people seriously that
say they're working and want to

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work on a bipartisan result
for health care reform.

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I don't think the President is
under any illusions that he's

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going to get every Republican
to sign up for his ideas.

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The HELP Committee approved a
piece of legislation with nearly

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200 Republican amendments
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I think he continues to be
hopeful that we can continue to

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make progress, and
until we see otherwise,

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that's what our focus is.

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The Press:
Even if all the Republicans
are against it?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, we take at
face value that people have

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-- that Republicans that you
read about in the newspaper are

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interested in working on a
bipartisan solution to reform

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the problems that we all
understand in health care.

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The Press:
But not your solution.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, that's what we're working
on. That's what I assume will be

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discussed on the
conference call tonight.

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The Press:
Robert, just picking
up on that point,

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House Republican leaders Boehner
and Cantor said that they sent a

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letter to the President in May
asking to work together on

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health care reform, and there
was no follow-up by the White

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House in terms of meetings.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, they've been down
here to talk about health

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care. I don't think that --

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The Press:
Since May?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I believe so. I will check.

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I know they've been -- I don't
know if it's been since May or

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not. I don't -- I'll check
on a series of what

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meetings have taken place.

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The Press:
Robert, do you think it's
helpful to have -- as the

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President makes his case -- to
have a top union official in

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Rich Trumka essentially
threatening Democratic members

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of Congress that if they don't
support a public option,

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unions will help
defeat them in 2010?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I'm not going to
get into some of the

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back-and-forth. I think the
President believes that,

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as you heard him say again on
the show that he just taped,

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that the -- I keep
pointing there,

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I guess it's over there -- that
the President wants to work with

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all members of Congress, both
parties, and reiterated what

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he'd said earlier many times
on the public option.

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The Press:
But he's been trying to
show flexibility, as well.

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So how could that be helpful to
the President if some of his own

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allies in organized labor are
essentially threatening fellow

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Democrats? It doesn't sound
like flexibility in his party.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I can't speak for
everybody in the party.

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I can only speak for the
President in saying that we

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believe it's important. If we
didn't believe it was important,

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we wouldn't be undertaking it
in order to get some bipartisan

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agreement. I think we have
agreement on a lot of issues

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that are important to get
health care reform done.

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We've got progress that
still needs to be made,

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and I think that's why the
Senate Finance Committee

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continues to meet.

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The Press:
Quick question on another
subject -- Blackwater.

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There's various reports today
about the CIA hiring private

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contractor Blackwater around
2004 to help assassinate al

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Qaeda leaders. And obviously the
CIA director has already shut

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program. My question is, moving
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administration still using
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Why do you continue
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Mr. Gibbs:
I'd have to look and see what
the extent of that use is,

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and I would point you to
the CIA on that story.

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The Press:
Well, actually, Valerie
Jarrett was asked about

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it this past weekend at the
netroots conference I think in

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Pittsburgh. And she said the President has to "balance

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national security
with transparency."

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How do you define that?

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I mean, how is it in the
interest of national security --

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national security interests
of America right now?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Ed, I'd feel more comfortable
talking about this

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when I had a little
information on their contract. Yes, sir.

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The Press:
The President made a
comment about -- that the

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Republican leadership made a
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(laughter)

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He didn't have the
crossword, either.

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I thought he --

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Mr. Gibbs:
That's what happens when he's
done with the crossword.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
It's an easy one today, it's --

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
It is Thursday, a
little tougher puzzle.

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The Press:
It's August.

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The Press:
The President said the
Republican leadership made a

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decision to oppose him.

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Is this his political analysis,
or is this what he is -- I mean,

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is this -- is this like,
he knows this as a fact?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think it's a -- deducing
from comments that he's

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read -- I think if you read
comments in today's paper you

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might come to that conclusion.

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The Press:
So he doesn't feel like
the Republican leadership

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is dealing from -- he
doesn't feel like they're

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dealing fairly anymore?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think there is a
difference between some members

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of the Republican Party. I think
you have seen members that the

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President often mentions.

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There are --

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The Press:
He singled out
Republican leadership.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, that's what I'm saying --

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The Press:
Boehner, Cantor,
Kyl, those guys?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think each one of those
-- I don't think you have

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to go farther than that.

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I think you can -- I think that
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and I think if you look at,
again, just at today's paper,

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you'll find a hefty number of
comments by the leadership that

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you just mentioned.

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I think there's a difference
between Republicans in the

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leadership who have obviously
decided long ago that they have

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no interest in working
with the President.

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I'll go back to --

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The Press:
When did you guys
give up on them?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think we would certainly
be willing to work

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with them if they were
willing to work with us.

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Again, Chuck, I think -- we've
talked about this before -- this

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has to be a two-way street.

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The President -- I've used this
example before -- the President

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went to speak to the Republican
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And an hour before he
left the White House,

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the Republican leadership
in Congress announced their

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opposition to the plan the
President was going to come talk

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to them about and take
their questions on.

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The Press:
So after that
experience, no more?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I mean, it's -- no, no, no.

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The President has an open hand
and is ready to work with

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anybody that's ready
to work with him.

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But, Chuck, the President
can only do so much.

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The President can
want to work with you,

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but if you don't want
to work with him,

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then you're not going to drive
your car down the two-way

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street. Did I always find it a
little curious that they put out

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a statement in opposition of a
plan before the President was

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going to go up there and talk
to their group about the plan?

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Kind of weird. Sort of like -- I
mean, if I gave you an answer to

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your question before you asked
the question -- it just 

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seems a little odd.

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The Press:
You went down a quick -- the
last time he talked to the Gang

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of Six. When was the last
time he talked to Grassley?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I will ask those folks.

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The Press:
It's been a while?

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Mr. Gibbs:
It hasn't been this week. It
would probably be in the last

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few -- I'm trying to
remember when they left.

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The Press:
Are you -- is the
White House curious why he's

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still involved, with his --
given the comments he's been

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making about --

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, I think --

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The Press:
Do you think he should still be
involved in negotiations?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think -- again, we take
his comments seriously,

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yesterday, that he believes that
we should continue to seek a

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bipartisan solution. I think
Senator Baucus believes that

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he's making progress
with Senator Grassley.

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We hope that Senator Grassley
feels like we're making

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progress, and we hope we get
something that he thinks is good

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for health care reform.

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The Press:
Do you take his comment seriously that he's not

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going to vote for the
bill unless he can get a

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huge number of Republicans?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, that's a better question for the huge number of

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Republicans that he's
going to talk to.

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The Press:
You heard the questioner
named Joe who asked

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the President if he was
getting a little weak-kneed.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes. Was that you?

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The Press:
No, it wasn't me.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
It was Helen.

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The Press:
I don't know Joe.

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So is he going into this
netroots online questioning

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session expecting to
get flack from his base?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, you know, my sense
is that when we talk to

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our supporters, when we
talk to town hall meetings,

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there are people that have
questions and concerns;

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there are people that
have -- that support us.

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The President looks forward to
dealing with whatever questions

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are out there. I think
today's was a good example.

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You heard -- I forget
the name of the caller,

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I think it was one
of the first ones,

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a female caller -- who said,
until the President just told

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her that the government doesn't
want to take over health care,

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that's the impression
that she had.

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We've seen polling, and I've
watched newscasts just this week

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where people have said that
illegal immigrants are going to

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get health care as a
result of this bill,

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despite the fact that the
President said six weeks ago

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that wasn't true, and said 26
minutes ago that that wasn't

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true. We'll see if those
rumors can finally be put to

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bed based on the truth.

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The Press:
Since you bring that up,

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wouldn't the American-born
children of illegal immigrants

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be eligible for health care
under any plan the President --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't know what the
provisions are about that.

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The Press:
Well, they're American citizens.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Right, but I think different
-- I'd have to look at

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that aspect of the bill,
but obviously, as you know,

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different public policy has
carved out different exceptions

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for that group of people,
despite their citizenship.

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Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Quickly on Lockerbie, the
President said on Smerconish

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that -- I think he used the word
"we" when he said called Libya

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and discussed the idea of
putting this guy under house

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arrest when he gets out.

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Did he personally make that
call, or who did make that --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Our folks in Libya have
discussed with the Libyan

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government exactly what the
President said a minute ago --

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one, that this individual
ought the be treated -- well,

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first let me say this -- we
oppose and deeply regret the

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decision that has
been made for release.

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Our officials in Libya talked
with the government and --

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delivering two primary messages,
as the President said: First,

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that this individual should be
treated as he always ought to

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be, a convicted mass murderer
that took part in a terrorist

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activity in December of 1988,
that killed several hundred

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people, including
almost 200 Americans.

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Secondly, we expressed our
concern about the release,

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and believe that the Libyans
should treat the individual as

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somebody who should
be under house arrest.

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That was communicated, again,
through American officials in

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Libya directly with
the Libyan government.

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The Press:
And that would be
the U.S. embassy?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

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The Press:
And did you get a response?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I believe some of that
communication happened as

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early as today.

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The Press:
Today's Sky News is doing
wall-to-wall live coverage

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of this release, and we
appreciate the President's

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comments. In light of the fact
that this release has occurred 

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despite the protest of the
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you think this will have on
agreements of this nature 

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between the U.S., the UK, and
other nations in the future?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I hesitate to
speculate about the future.

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I think it's just important to
reiterate, as I've done here,

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our deep regret that
the decision was made,

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our deep condolence
with the families that,

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as I said this morning, have for
now many years lived with the

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loss of a loved one as a
result of these horrific acts.

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And we wish that this
decision had not been made.

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The Press:
May I follow up?

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The Press:
May I follow, as well?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Sure.

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The Press:
As some say, regret is
fine and condolences are

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fine, but certain individuals
like Senator Lautenberg are

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wondering where the outrage is.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, the outrage has been
expressed directly to the

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governments that have
made these decisions,

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from the White House
to those individuals,

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and as well as to the
Libyan government.

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I think our actions have been in
direct -- because we have direct

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concern about this decision.

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The Press:
Can I follow on that, Robert?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

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The Press:
What does this do to
the so-called "special

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relationship" between
the United States and --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't want to get -- I
think it's best today just

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to discuss where we
are on this activity.

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The Press:
Robert --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Do you have a follow-up on that?
I can't imagine that you do.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
You'll come back?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Regrettably, yes.

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The Press:
On this point, might there
be any steps the U.S.

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would take that might amount
to repercussions in exchange for

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-- to the -- taken against
the UK or Scotland?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Not that I'm aware of,

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but I will ask NSC
if that's the case.

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The Press:
What about Libya?

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Is there some sort of -- like,
if they agree to put him under

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house arrest or something?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I can check on that,
but I don't know --

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The Press:
Did anyone from the British
or Scottish governments

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contact the United States to
try and explain the reasoning?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I can talk to NSC.

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I assume they -- I assume we've
had discussions with them

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because folks here registered,
on behalf of our government,

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this administration, and our
country, the deep regret and

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opposition we had to the
decision being made.

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The Press:
Can we get some more
statements on the series of

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questions about the --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I will see if there is
anything to add, yes.

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The Press:
The President called Cash
for Clunkers a victim of

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its own success today. What does
the administration do to sort of

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turn that around to make it
successful of its own success, I 

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guess? And I think we might have
-- pulling themselves out 

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of the program now.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, let's understand, this has been a very successful program,

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okay? Dealers have sold cars
like they haven't sold them 

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in quite some time.
Manufacturers are producing cars

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like they haven't in
quite some time.

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And workers have been hired
again to make those cars,

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00:24:00,467 --> 00:24:03,737
to replace that inventory like
they haven't in quite some time.

464
00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:08,034
This is, without a doubt,
an unqualified success.

465
00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:12,703
We have -- I think what the
President discussed was we have

466
00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:20,430
added people to process -- we
tripled the number of people to

467
00:24:20,433 --> 00:24:25,963
process applications
that are coming in.

468
00:24:25,967 --> 00:24:29,037
We understand some
of the frustration,

469
00:24:29,033 --> 00:24:33,803
but I think it's also helpful to
understand that we cannot -- we

470
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,730
have seen applications that
are legally incomplete,

471
00:24:38,734 --> 00:24:42,604
that don't fit the requirement.
That requires us to go back to

472
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,100
the dealer to get
additional information.

473
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,230
As the President said, it would
be illegal for us to send to a

474
00:24:48,233 --> 00:24:50,963
dealer a check for an
application that wasn't

475
00:24:50,967 --> 00:24:54,137
complete. You'd be asking
me, if we did that,

476
00:24:54,133 --> 00:24:59,533
why the Chevy dealership
got all these checks,

477
00:24:59,533 --> 00:25:03,603
based on our investigation
on incomplete applications,

478
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,700
that didn't comply with the law.

479
00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:10,600
We are doing everything in our
power to expedite the processing

480
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,600
of these applications in a
program that's been successful,

481
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,530
again, for consumers, dealers,
manufacturers and workers.

482
00:25:19,533 --> 00:25:21,963
The Press:
So if someone went out and
tried to participate in

483
00:25:21,967 --> 00:25:23,897
this program today, can they
feel confident and can the

484
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,030
dealership feel confident
they will get the money?

485
00:25:26,033 --> 00:25:27,633
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes. Absolutely.

486
00:25:27,633 --> 00:25:29,503
That's what the Secretary
of Transportation has said;

487
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:34,670
that's what the President has
said. And again, I think this

488
00:25:34,667 --> 00:25:39,737
has been a highly successful
program. Yes, sir.

489
00:25:39,734 --> 00:25:41,964
The Press:
Robert, the President
said about the Lockerbie

490
00:25:41,967 --> 00:25:45,067
incident that the administration
has reached out to the families

491
00:25:45,066 --> 00:25:47,896
of the victims of the bombing.

492
00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:50,100
Can you tell us how
that has happened?

493
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:51,800
Did the President call
any of the families --

494
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600
Mr. Gibbs:
I believe, again, it
was NSC officials that

495
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,930
communicated the likelihood of
the decision that would be made,

496
00:25:57,934 --> 00:26:01,604
to express to the families the
actions that the administration

497
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,130
had taken with UK and Scottish
officials about an impending

498
00:26:06,133 --> 00:26:12,633
decision, and again, to express
this government and our

499
00:26:12,633 --> 00:26:14,763
country's condolence
for what had happened.

500
00:26:14,767 --> 00:26:16,537
The Press:
And that was all
handled at the NSC?

501
00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:20,233
Mr. Gibbs:
At NSC and through John Brennan.

502
00:26:20,233 --> 00:26:26,333
The Press:
Okay. There are a couple of
reports about an ex-import bank

503
00:26:26,333 --> 00:26:30,203
loaned to the Brazilian
government for offshore drilling 

504
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,930
petro bucks. And I'm wondering
if you can give us an 

505
00:26:33,934 --> 00:26:38,704
administration take on why
investment in Brazil and

506
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:41,370
petroleum exploration there is a
good idea, helpful for the 

507
00:26:41,367 --> 00:26:43,197
U.S. economy, helpful for --

508
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,930
Mr. Gibbs:
I've not seen the story.

509
00:26:44,934 --> 00:26:46,434
I'd have to take a
look at the story.

510
00:26:46,433 --> 00:26:48,903
The Press:
Andy Stern told ABC today,

511
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:51,570
talking about health care and
the stakes politically involved,

512
00:26:51,567 --> 00:26:54,137
"I think we're talking losing
control of Congress if it --

513
00:26:54,133 --> 00:26:57,033
meaning health care -- fails.

514
00:26:57,033 --> 00:27:00,303
It would totally empower
Republicans to kill all change.

515
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:02,530
It's hard to imagine the
Democrats convincing the public

516
00:27:02,533 --> 00:27:05,163
that Republicans are to blame
for health care reform going

517
00:27:05,166 --> 00:27:10,396
down when the Democrats
have such large majorities."

518
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,770
Is there anything the White
House disagrees with in that

519
00:27:12,767 --> 00:27:15,867
sentiment, and is it in any way
unnerved that allies -- such

520
00:27:15,867 --> 00:27:19,737
close allies of the White
House would talk in maybe such

521
00:27:19,734 --> 00:27:22,264
negative terms about the next
couple of months of health care?

522
00:27:22,266 --> 00:27:24,196
Mr. Gibbs:
I haven't seen the comments.

523
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800
I doubt or don't know
if the President has.

524
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:32,600
We don't look at -- we don't
look at -- we're not making

525
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,800
decisions about health care,
the economy, Cash for Clunkers,

526
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,600
banks, anything,
based on polling,

527
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,900
based on what's going to happen
in a congressional election.

528
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:45,570
That's not our focus.

529
00:27:45,567 --> 00:27:47,967
Our focus is on, as the
President did today,

530
00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:50,797
reminding people what's at
stake in health care reform,

531
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,700
reminding millions of Americans
that we can't afford to wait,

532
00:27:56,700 --> 00:28:02,000
dealing with misimpressions
and flat-out lies about what's

533
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,400
involved in this bill. And
that's what his job will

534
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,370
continue to be. I'll let
interest groups worry about 

535
00:28:08,367 --> 00:28:10,337
whatever they want
to worry about.

536
00:28:10,333 --> 00:28:11,763
The Press:
One other question.

537
00:28:11,767 --> 00:28:13,637
Yesterday in the conference
call with religious leaders,

538
00:28:13,633 --> 00:28:15,503
the President said he didn't
want government bureaucrats -- I

539
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:18,100
forget the verb he used --
"interfering" or "meddling" with

540
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:22,000
people's insurance. He didn't
want insurance industry

541
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,870
bureaucrats meddling. This may
sound cheeky, but I'm trying to 

542
00:28:24,867 --> 00:28:26,567
get at a serious point here.

543
00:28:26,567 --> 00:28:29,867
Does that mean no bureaucrats
would be involved in health -- I

544
00:28:29,867 --> 00:28:32,267
mean, who would be involved in
health -- is he talking about a

545
00:28:32,266 --> 00:28:35,096
world where it's just patients
and doctors, and that's it?

546
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:37,630
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, in a world where
patients and doctors make

547
00:28:37,633 --> 00:28:40,733
medical decisions, absolutely. I
think he said the same thing --

548
00:28:40,734 --> 00:28:42,564
The Press:
I mean, he said it before --

549
00:28:42,567 --> 00:28:44,437
Mr. Gibbs:
I know, he said it sitting
in an air hangar in

550
00:28:44,433 --> 00:28:47,733
Montana. Look, we remember --

551
00:28:47,734 --> 00:28:49,434
The Press:
I'm wondering how do you
get the bureaucracy out of

552
00:28:49,433 --> 00:28:51,663
health care, whether it's
private bureaucracy or

553
00:28:51,667 --> 00:28:53,037
government bureaucracy.

554
00:28:53,033 --> 00:28:55,563
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, we don't want the
government making health

555
00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:57,737
care decisions for
doctors and individuals,

556
00:28:57,734 --> 00:28:59,804
and the President doesn't
believe health insurance

557
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,800
companies should make those
determinations, either.

558
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,570
When they decide
that you're too sick,

559
00:29:05,567 --> 00:29:08,467
or when they decide -- I'm sure
you could go on the air right

560
00:29:08,467 --> 00:29:11,937
now and get a hundred viewers
to call in that have dealt with

561
00:29:11,934 --> 00:29:15,634
their insurance company and
found that they've had to go

562
00:29:15,633 --> 00:29:19,033
through extra paperwork because
originally a treatment was

563
00:29:19,033 --> 00:29:26,563
denied, or some extra hurdle was
put in place that they had to

564
00:29:26,567 --> 00:29:29,767
jump over in order to receive
the treatment that they deserve.

565
00:29:29,767 --> 00:29:33,597
That shouldn't happen --

566
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:39,130
-- What in the world is
that? I feel like I'm --

567
00:29:39,133 --> 00:29:40,603
nevermind, I'm not
going to get --

568
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,170
(laughter)

569
00:29:44,166 --> 00:29:46,166
-- that those decision
shouldn't be

570
00:29:46,166 --> 00:29:49,966
made by somebody sitting in a
cube in government and shouldn't

571
00:29:49,967 --> 00:29:52,937
be sitting -- made by somebody
sitting at a cubicle at an

572
00:29:52,934 --> 00:29:54,134
insurance company.

573
00:29:54,133 --> 00:29:56,003
The Press:
Right. But when the President
says, I'm not doing anything

574
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,830
that would threaten the primacy
or the role that the public -- 

575
00:29:58,834 --> 00:30:02,164
that private insurance currently
has in health care, that seems 

576
00:30:02,166 --> 00:30:05,066
to suggest those bureaucrats
would still be there.

577
00:30:05,066 --> 00:30:08,736
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I don't know who
administers FOX's health

578
00:30:08,734 --> 00:30:11,464
care program, but I'm sure FOX's
health care program is still

579
00:30:11,467 --> 00:30:13,367
going to be administered
by those people.

580
00:30:13,367 --> 00:30:16,537
The question, Major, is, if
your family members gets sick,

581
00:30:16,533 --> 00:30:21,663
are you going to go to your
doctor to get treatment,

582
00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,967
or are you going to go to the
cubicle where your insurance

583
00:30:23,967 --> 00:30:26,467
executive or bureaucrat sits and
ask him if your son or daughter

584
00:30:26,467 --> 00:30:29,937
ought to get the cancer
treatment they deserve?

585
00:30:29,934 --> 00:30:32,134
That's what the
President speaks of.

586
00:30:32,133 --> 00:30:36,333
That decision shouldn't be made
by that bureaucrat sitting in

587
00:30:36,333 --> 00:30:38,933
the cubicle about your
family on a cancer treatment.

588
00:30:38,934 --> 00:30:40,204
The Press:
Or yours.

589
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,830
Mr. Gibbs:
Or mine, or anybody in this
country, and it shouldn't be

590
00:30:42,834 --> 00:30:45,134
made at the government level,
either. Yes, ma'am.

591
00:30:45,133 --> 00:30:48,033
The Press:
On Monday, the expectation
is that the Attorney

592
00:30:48,033 --> 00:30:51,333
General will announce whether
he's going to investigate the

593
00:30:51,333 --> 00:30:55,003
CIA interrogation abuses, and
that also -- also the same day

594
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,270
is the deadline
for the IG report.

595
00:30:57,266 --> 00:31:01,566
I'm wondering if the White House
has talked to him at all about

596
00:31:01,567 --> 00:31:04,437
what's coming up, and also
if you could respond to the

597
00:31:04,433 --> 00:31:07,403
concerns from some Republican
lawmakers that moving forward

598
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,800
with an investigation would be
dangerous to national security.

599
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,400
And before you refer me to the
CIA or the Attorney General on

600
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,870
that, if you could talk a little
bit about the politics of it --

601
00:31:17,867 --> 00:31:20,167
Mr. Gibbs:
Then I can refer you to the --

602
00:31:20,166 --> 00:31:24,466
The Press:
-- the partisan -- the partisan
nature of these questions and

603
00:31:24,467 --> 00:31:27,037
whether, if there's an
investigation, that might poison 

604
00:31:27,033 --> 00:31:28,633
the atmosphere further.

605
00:31:28,633 --> 00:31:31,903
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, decisions aren't
made based on politics, okay?

606
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:34,000
Scientific decisions
are based on science;

607
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,900
policy decisions
are based on policy.

608
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:39,670
They're not -- these decisions
aren't based on polling or

609
00:31:39,667 --> 00:31:42,567
politics or that sort of thing.

610
00:31:42,567 --> 00:31:47,797
Obviously I will refer you to
the Department of Justice,

611
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,770
because the question you
started with had to do with the

612
00:31:50,767 --> 00:31:52,097
Department of Justice.

613
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:59,130
As you mention, the deadline for
materials to be released as part

614
00:31:59,133 --> 00:32:05,733
of the CIA's IGs report in a
redacted form will be done at

615
00:32:05,734 --> 00:32:09,434
some point on the 24th, on
Monday. And I think the

616
00:32:09,433 --> 00:32:15,033
administration has been very
clear that we are pointed in

617
00:32:15,033 --> 00:32:21,763
going forward, that a hefty
litigation looking backward is

618
00:32:21,767 --> 00:32:27,967
not what we believe is in the
country's best interest.

619
00:32:27,967 --> 00:32:31,467
And that's what our focus is.

620
00:32:31,467 --> 00:32:32,397
The Press:
Robert --

621
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,400
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, sir.

622
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,900
The Press:
Thank you very much. Two-part.

623
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:36,970
Mr. Gibbs:
Of course.

624
00:32:36,967 --> 00:32:38,397
(laughter)

625
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,570
I'm going to hold you
to it's only two, Lester.

626
00:32:40,567 --> 00:32:42,567
The Press:
All right, yes, all right.

627
00:32:42,567 --> 00:32:45,737
First part: Does our
Commander-in-Chief believe that

628
00:32:45,734 --> 00:32:51,934
the New York Times extensive
August the 16th report headlined

629
00:32:51,934 --> 00:32:56,704
"GI Jane Quietly Breaks the
Combat Barrier" is inaccurate,

630
00:32:56,700 --> 00:33:01,130
or does he believe women
should be in combat?

631
00:33:01,133 --> 00:33:04,333
Mr. Gibbs:
Those are decisions that are
left appropriately

632
00:33:04,333 --> 00:33:06,503
to the Pentagon.

633
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:08,400
The Press:
But he's the Commander-in-Chief.

634
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,270
Mr. Gibbs:
He is, and he has a very
good Secretary of Defense

635
00:33:12,266 --> 00:33:16,096
and an extraordinarily capable
military that, Lester,

636
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,330
I know you're proud of.

637
00:33:18,333 --> 00:33:22,463
The Press:
Does he agree with Time's
reporter Lizette Alvarez,

638
00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:27,337
"Women need separate
bunks and bathrooms,"

639
00:33:27,333 --> 00:33:32,003
or does he believe
that neither gender,

640
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,430
nor any kind of sexual
orientation should have separate

641
00:33:36,433 --> 00:33:38,333
living facilities?

642
00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:43,063
Mr. Gibbs:
I'm going to, again, leave those
very appropriate and important

643
00:33:43,066 --> 00:33:48,066
decisions up to the people
that make those for a living.

644
00:33:48,066 --> 00:33:50,596
Let's venture here into
the back. Yes, sir.

645
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,900
The Press:
Yes, do you have a comment
on the Afghan elections

646
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:58,570
so far, how it went and how does
the President feel about it?

647
00:33:58,567 --> 00:34:01,037
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, I think
obviously the President is

648
00:34:01,033 --> 00:34:15,433
enormously proud of the millions
of Afghanis that ignored the

649
00:34:15,433 --> 00:34:21,303
threats of harm and violence to
exercise their right to choose

650
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:26,500
their President and
provincial council leaders.

651
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:33,070
I think it's heartening any
time you see an exercise in

652
00:34:33,066 --> 00:34:38,266
democracy, but particularly when
it's done in the face of the

653
00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:43,196
type of horrific threat
that we know existed.

654
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:49,030
Results will begin to trickle in
and we'll have some preliminary

655
00:34:49,033 --> 00:34:52,403
national results, I'm
told, on September the 3rd,

656
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,830
and we await looking at those,
and look forward to working with

657
00:34:55,834 --> 00:35:01,734
whomever is elected President of
Afghanistan to continue to make

658
00:35:01,734 --> 00:35:05,804
progress in a very important
part of the world. April.

659
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,330
The Press:
Robert, what does the President
have to say about the letter

660
00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:12,833
that Senator Kennedy sent to
Deval Patrick as well

661
00:35:12,834 --> 00:35:14,834
as the Senate president?

662
00:35:14,834 --> 00:35:17,164
Mr. Gibbs:
I think he has seen the story.

663
00:35:17,166 --> 00:35:23,236
I have not -- I have not talked
to him about his thoughts on the

664
00:35:23,233 --> 00:35:29,333
letter. And he has not talked
to either Senator Kennedy or

665
00:35:29,333 --> 00:35:31,733
Governor Patrick about the
letter. I was asked this this 

666
00:35:31,734 --> 00:35:34,564
morning. I think I have -- I
should have brought this with me 

667
00:35:34,567 --> 00:35:37,037
-- I believe the last time that
he spoke with Senator Kennedy 

668
00:35:37,033 --> 00:35:39,833
was on June the 2nd
about health care.

669
00:35:39,834 --> 00:35:42,264
The Press:
Could you go into what
they talked about and how

670
00:35:42,266 --> 00:35:43,936
long the conversation was?

671
00:35:43,934 --> 00:35:46,234
Mr. Gibbs:
I'm doing this from memory.

672
00:35:46,233 --> 00:35:51,433
I believe -- I think the
conversation lasted about seven

673
00:35:51,433 --> 00:35:56,463
or eight minutes in June to
discuss where we were in the

674
00:35:56,467 --> 00:35:58,567
progress that was being
made on health care.

675
00:35:58,567 --> 00:36:00,737
But I don't have a more
detailed readout from that.

676
00:36:00,734 --> 00:36:03,034
The Press:
Did he talk to Kennedy
up to the Pope visit?

677
00:36:03,033 --> 00:36:13,833
Mr. Gibbs:
He talked with Vicki about
that and about the letter.

678
00:36:13,834 --> 00:36:15,464
The Press:
-- the letter?

679
00:36:15,467 --> 00:36:16,967
Mr. Gibbs:
Yes. Bill.

680
00:36:16,967 --> 00:36:19,737
The Press:
Robert, the President's
conference call this

681
00:36:19,734 --> 00:36:22,504
afternoon with the Organizing
for America group, do you think

682
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,230
it's coming a little late in
the process? Wouldn't the

683
00:36:25,233 --> 00:36:27,963
administration be farther down
the road if they had mobilized 

684
00:36:27,967 --> 00:36:30,437
those 13 million volunteers
like before the town halls?

685
00:36:30,433 --> 00:36:34,733
Mr. Gibbs:
Well, Bill, I have
not bought into the

686
00:36:34,734 --> 00:36:40,364
misperception that our
supporters haven't been out

687
00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:41,967
there for town hall meetings.

688
00:36:41,967 --> 00:36:45,767
I've seen them in Montana; I've
seen them in Grand Junction,

689
00:36:45,767 --> 00:36:49,597
Colorado, where, coincidentally,
there weren't a lot of -- we got

690
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,030
about 35 percent of the vote, I
think, in that area of Colorado.

691
00:36:53,033 --> 00:37:02,233
And we see them on television
even in the slicing and dicing

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that the media has done
over these town halls.

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The Press:
A quick -- on another topic.

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Tom Ridge has a new memoir out
in which he says that just

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before President Bush's
reelection in 2004,

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he was asked to raise
the color code alert,

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which he was sure was
politically motivated,

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and he almost resigned over it.

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Any thought -- we
haven't had one.

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You don't know they're there
unless you go to the airport and

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you see what it is.

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Any thought on the
administration's part of just

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junking that whole system?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I believe, if I'm not mistaken,

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that Secretary Napolitano, is
evaluating the system and its

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use. And obviously, just as I
said earlier about political

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decisions or things like that,
that decisions regarding the

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terror threat should be made
based on the rise and fall of

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that threat, not based
on anything else.