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1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,900 The Press: Yay! 2 00:00:03,900 --> 00:00:08,670 The Press: Ohhhh! 3 00:00:08,667 --> 00:00:09,637 Mr. Gibbs: Nice to see you. 4 00:00:09,633 --> 00:00:12,503 Let me get a few pictures over here. 5 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:14,370 The Press: Ohhhh! 6 00:00:14,367 --> 00:00:15,867 What was that groan for? 7 00:00:15,867 --> 00:00:16,767 Come on. 8 00:00:16,767 --> 00:00:18,797 The Press: Show us again, come on. 9 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,170 The Press: You can't go yet, I'm not ready. 10 00:00:20,166 --> 00:00:22,236 Mr. Gibbs: Don't worry, we'll do a couple of non-serious 11 00:00:22,233 --> 00:00:23,903 announcements in my -- 12 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:26,970 The Press: What position did Gibbs play, anyway? 13 00:00:26,967 --> 00:00:31,237 Mr. Gibbs: This is -- I am, first of all, as you can tell, 14 00:00:31,233 --> 00:00:34,563 not in my normal attire -- though it does signify Friday 15 00:00:34,567 --> 00:00:38,367 here at the White House, casual Friday as we newly instituted. 16 00:00:38,367 --> 00:00:39,697 (laughter) 17 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:43,000 I am making good on my aspect of my wager with Dimitri, 18 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,400 my Canadian counterpart, who is somewhere several hundred miles 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,830 north laughing. 20 00:00:49,834 --> 00:00:50,934 The Press: Are you itching yet? 21 00:00:50,934 --> 00:00:51,864 Mr. Gibbs: I am not. 22 00:00:51,867 --> 00:00:54,867 No, I'm a little warm. 23 00:00:54,867 --> 00:00:57,567 The number 39 is for Ryan Miller, 24 00:00:57,567 --> 00:01:03,137 who of course was the United States goalie and the tournament MVP. 25 00:01:03,133 --> 00:01:06,863 I have one official government announcement: We've instructed 26 00:01:06,867 --> 00:01:11,397 the embassy, our embassy and our ambassador to make arrangements 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,270 to deliver one case of Molson Canadian and one case of 28 00:01:17,266 --> 00:01:21,636 Yuengling lager from Pottsville, Pennsylvania, 29 00:01:21,633 --> 00:01:27,703 America's oldest brewery, to the Prime Minister's office today. 30 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:32,200 I'm sure Dimitri will take most of that home and consume it. 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,800 Let me do the week ahead and then we'll get back into more 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,970 semi-serious attire for the rest of your hockey questions. 33 00:01:39,967 --> 00:01:40,967 The Press: No! 34 00:01:40,967 --> 00:01:41,967 The Press: Fifteen minutes! 35 00:01:41,967 --> 00:01:42,997 Mr. Gibbs: Fifteen minutes -- I thought we were doing this on the 36 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,070 metric scale. 37 00:01:44,066 --> 00:01:46,096 (laughter) 38 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:47,000 The Press: That's 30 minutes. 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,330 (laughter) 40 00:01:48,333 --> 00:01:49,363 The Press: Fifteen Canadian. 41 00:01:49,367 --> 00:01:50,337 (laughter) 42 00:01:50,333 --> 00:01:51,303 Mr. Gibbs: Exactly, right. 43 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:52,270 (laughter) 44 00:01:52,266 --> 00:01:53,296 What's the exchange rate? 45 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:57,830 The President has no scheduled public events this weekend. 46 00:01:57,834 --> 00:02:00,234 On Monday, as you know, the President will travel to 47 00:02:00,233 --> 00:02:03,233 Strongsville, Ohio, where he will deliver remarks on health 48 00:02:03,233 --> 00:02:05,233 insurance reform. 49 00:02:05,233 --> 00:02:09,303 On Tuesday the President will attend meetings here at the White House. 50 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:13,230 On Wednesday the President will meet with the Taoiseach of 51 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:15,503 Ireland, Brian Cowen, at the White House. 52 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,900 In the evening the President and First Lady will host the 53 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:22,070 Taoiseach and Mrs. Cowen at the annual St. Patrick's Day 54 00:02:22,066 --> 00:02:26,766 reception held in the East Room, and the event will be pooled press. 55 00:02:26,767 --> 00:02:30,137 On Thursday and Friday the President will be here in 56 00:02:30,133 --> 00:02:33,363 Washington, D.C. and we'll have a chance to talk, I'm sure, 57 00:02:33,367 --> 00:02:37,437 about the trip here in a few moments. 58 00:02:37,433 --> 00:02:39,033 Let me get a little bit semi-organized. 59 00:02:39,033 --> 00:02:42,303 I will say -- no offense to my Canadian friends here -- 60 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:47,930 but we couldn't have done this fully without -- 61 00:02:47,934 --> 00:02:51,104 (applause) 62 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:56,200 -- also -- let me put my specs back on -- 63 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,930 of course this just has 10 for 2010 on it. 64 00:03:01,934 --> 00:03:03,764 Nick and U.S.A. 65 00:03:03,767 --> 00:03:07,367 Hockey -- the happy providers of this jersey -- 66 00:03:07,367 --> 00:03:09,997 it's a little smaller in size, which I think Nick did on 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,600 purpose so that at the conclusion of this I would give 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,730 the jersey to him. 69 00:03:13,734 --> 00:03:15,434 (laughter) 70 00:03:15,433 --> 00:03:16,563 The Press: What else are you taking off? 71 00:03:16,567 --> 00:03:18,737 (laughter) 72 00:03:18,734 --> 00:03:20,034 Mr. Gibbs: No, that's Rahm, ma'am. 73 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:21,633 That's the Chief of Staff. 74 00:03:21,633 --> 00:03:23,763 (laughter) 75 00:03:23,767 --> 00:03:25,197 The Press: It's lucky you didn't make a bet about wrestling. 76 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,630 (laughter) 77 00:03:26,633 --> 00:03:27,963 The Press: One more fashion spin, please. 78 00:03:27,967 --> 00:03:30,697 Mr. Gibbs: You like the USA, 2010 USA. 79 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:32,630 (applause) 80 00:03:32,633 --> 00:03:35,803 So I don't think I should take any questions wearing this, 81 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,070 but -- you know what, we'll take a couple. 82 00:03:38,066 --> 00:03:38,896 Go ahead, sir. 83 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:40,030 The Press: Okay. 84 00:03:40,033 --> 00:03:41,303 Now that the trip has been delayed, 85 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:44,400 how is the President going to use those extra two days? 86 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,870 Mr. Gibbs: Phil, the President has met with and talked with, as you know, 87 00:03:48,867 --> 00:03:53,667 many members of Congress over the past several days. 88 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:58,637 I anticipate that he will talk with the leaders and members of 89 00:03:58,633 --> 00:04:04,433 Congress in -- talking to them about the benefits of passing 90 00:04:04,433 --> 00:04:06,903 health care reform. 91 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:08,730 So I anticipate that that kind of -- 92 00:04:08,734 --> 00:04:09,704 that kind of thing will happen. 93 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:12,730 This came about as a result of a conversation that the President 94 00:04:12,734 --> 00:04:18,304 had with Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid, who -- 95 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:20,870 all three agreed that it would be helpful to have a few extra 96 00:04:20,867 --> 00:04:25,197 days here, talking to members. 97 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,730 But they also agreed that this was an extremely important trip 98 00:04:28,734 --> 00:04:32,434 for the United States of America for the President to go to 99 00:04:32,433 --> 00:04:34,003 Indonesia and to Australia. 100 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,830 The Press: But Congress is going to be around for a week after the 101 00:04:35,834 --> 00:04:36,964 President leaves. 102 00:04:36,967 --> 00:04:39,697 So is the 20th now the new 18th? 103 00:04:39,700 --> 00:04:40,630 I mean -- 104 00:04:40,633 --> 00:04:41,633 (laughter) 105 00:04:41,633 --> 00:04:42,633 Mr. Gibbs: I don't -- 106 00:04:42,633 --> 00:04:43,633 The Press: In terms of deadlines. 107 00:04:43,633 --> 00:04:44,863 Is now the 20th now the -- 108 00:04:44,867 --> 00:04:49,097 Mr. Gibbs: Look, I'm simply going to say the President, 109 00:04:49,100 --> 00:04:52,930 as we announced today, will leave for the trip at 10 a.m. on 110 00:04:52,934 --> 00:04:54,104 the 21st. 111 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:56,170 The Press: So the President is okay with Congress continuing discussions 112 00:04:56,166 --> 00:04:58,436 of health care, even while he's traveling, 113 00:04:58,433 --> 00:05:01,003 or does he want this all wrapped up with a bow by the 20th? 114 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,430 Mr. Gibbs: I think -- we've been talking about this for more than a year. 115 00:05:04,433 --> 00:05:09,363 I think the President wants, members of Congress want a vote 116 00:05:09,367 --> 00:05:13,737 as soon as possible that will lead to improved health care for 117 00:05:13,734 --> 00:05:15,234 millions of Americans. 118 00:05:15,233 --> 00:05:17,503 The Press: But does the President expect to leave having the House pass -- 119 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:23,700 Mr. Gibbs: Look, I will leave deadlines up to the Speaker. 120 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:24,600 Yes, sir. 121 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,330 The Press: If the President fails -- if Congress fails to get this 122 00:05:26,333 --> 00:05:31,503 across the finish line or very close to it before next Sunday's 123 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:34,070 scheduled -- rescheduled departure date for Asia, 124 00:05:34,066 --> 00:05:36,536 is there a chance that this trip could be delayed again or even 125 00:05:36,533 --> 00:05:39,433 canceled altogether? 126 00:05:39,433 --> 00:05:43,703 Mr. Gibbs: In speaking with Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid, 127 00:05:43,700 --> 00:05:48,300 all three agreed this was an important trip for the President to make. 128 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:51,530 The Asia-Pacific region of the world is tremendously important 129 00:05:51,533 --> 00:05:56,263 to the United States for a number of reasons. 130 00:05:56,266 --> 00:06:00,466 We will -- we're going to visit, obviously, Indonesia, 131 00:06:00,467 --> 00:06:04,267 the world's largest Muslim population, 132 00:06:04,266 --> 00:06:05,796 an emerging democracy. 133 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:12,470 The President will follow up on his speech from Cairo in a 134 00:06:12,467 --> 00:06:15,897 speech in Indonesia -- a key partner, 135 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:20,570 obviously in our counterterrorism efforts -- 136 00:06:20,567 --> 00:06:23,167 before traveling to Australia, obviously a very important 137 00:06:23,166 --> 00:06:29,436 trading partner and an important ally in our efforts in Afghanistan. 138 00:06:29,433 --> 00:06:33,803 I will say that if you -- as the President said in Tokyo, 139 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,470 that for years the United States has been absent from the 140 00:06:38,467 --> 00:06:41,237 Asia-Pacific region. 141 00:06:41,233 --> 00:06:46,203 We are -- we can't lead in this region of the world without 142 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,100 strong bilateral relationships with Indonesia and Australia. 143 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:53,300 They're key in our ability to keep our country safe. 144 00:06:53,300 --> 00:06:55,600 They're key in our ability to grow our economy through 145 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,200 increased exports. 146 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,100 And they're key to tackling big challenges. 147 00:07:00,100 --> 00:07:04,970 Indonesia is the fourth-largest greenhouse gas emitter in the world. 148 00:07:04,967 --> 00:07:08,797 Obviously they'll be incredibly important to international 149 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,330 agreements on climate change. 150 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:16,103 So the President believed it was important to give the issue of 151 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:21,230 health care and the effort to get votes on health care a few 152 00:07:21,233 --> 00:07:24,363 more days, but also believes, as do those leaders in Congress, 153 00:07:24,367 --> 00:07:28,667 that it's important to keep this trip on our schedule with two 154 00:07:28,667 --> 00:07:29,997 important partners. 155 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,970 The Press: One other issue. 156 00:07:30,967 --> 00:07:34,567 The President looks to be homing in on his Fed nominees. 157 00:07:34,567 --> 00:07:38,467 Can you confirm that Janet Yellen is the leading candidate 158 00:07:38,467 --> 00:07:43,737 for nominee as vice chairman, and that Sarah Raskin and Peter 159 00:07:43,734 --> 00:07:46,434 Diamond are under consideration for other vacancies? 160 00:07:46,433 --> 00:07:47,933 Can you give us any kind of sense of the timing, 161 00:07:47,934 --> 00:07:50,004 whether he's going to make an announcement before the trip, 162 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,930 after the trip? 163 00:07:51,934 --> 00:08:00,964 Mr. Gibbs: Look, we -- she is obviously somebody who -- 164 00:08:00,967 --> 00:08:08,097 a former chair of the Council on Economic Advisers; 165 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:11,700 somebody with great expertise in macroeconomic issues; 166 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:17,170 the current president of the Fed in San Francisco. 167 00:08:17,166 --> 00:08:22,436 And she is a leading contender for the vice chair nomination. 168 00:08:22,433 --> 00:08:29,063 As you know, we are hoping to fill the vacancy of the vice 169 00:08:29,066 --> 00:08:33,866 chair in time for the end of the current term, which is June. 170 00:08:33,867 --> 00:08:38,497 And I would say Sarah Raskin and Peter Diamond are also under 171 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:41,030 strong consideration for additional vacancies. 172 00:08:41,033 --> 00:08:43,463 I don't have a timing announcement, though, 173 00:08:43,467 --> 00:08:47,867 on any of those. 174 00:08:47,867 --> 00:08:49,867 The Press: Are we speaking a matter of weeks? 175 00:08:49,867 --> 00:08:53,137 Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, I don't want to speculate on when the timing 176 00:08:53,133 --> 00:08:57,103 would be, except obviously for Janet Yellen, 177 00:08:57,100 --> 00:09:00,100 who's under strong consideration, 178 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:04,300 I would say anybody that is appointed to the vice chair 179 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:06,870 would need to be done -- our hope obviously, as I said, 180 00:09:06,867 --> 00:09:09,597 is to get it done before the current term expires. 181 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,300 The Press: And she is the leading candidate? 182 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:13,130 Mr. Gibbs: I would say she is a leading contender, yes. 183 00:09:13,133 --> 00:09:14,333 The Press: A leading contender? 184 00:09:14,333 --> 00:09:16,333 The Press: Has it been 15 minutes yet? 185 00:09:16,333 --> 00:09:17,603 Do you want to put your jacket on? 186 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,800 Mr. Gibbs: Do you feel uncomfortable, Jake? 187 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,230 The Press: I feel like if I show this to the viewers of ABC 188 00:09:22,233 --> 00:09:23,403 News, World News -- 189 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,500 The Press: Then we have to explain the whole thing. 190 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:25,770 (laughter) 191 00:09:25,767 --> 00:09:27,267 The Press: -- they're going to be a little confused why on a story about 192 00:09:27,266 --> 00:09:28,496 health care you're wearing a hockey jersey. 193 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:29,700 I'm saying -- 194 00:09:29,700 --> 00:09:31,000 Mr. Gibbs: It can't be any stranger than some of the other stuff I see on 195 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,330 the news, so I don't -- 196 00:09:32,333 --> 00:09:33,703 (laughter) 197 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:36,970 -- I'm not entirely sure what -- somebody give Jake the Canadian 198 00:09:36,967 --> 00:09:39,497 one and we'll just do a quick two-shot and we'll -- 199 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:40,500 The Press: Faceoff. 200 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:41,500 (laughter) 201 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:42,500 Mr. Gibbs: Yes. 202 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:43,600 Would you feel more comfortable if I switched? 203 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,830 The Press: I'm just glad it was a hockey, not a wrestling, bet. 204 00:09:45,834 --> 00:09:47,564 (laughter) 205 00:09:47,567 --> 00:09:48,667 The Press: Or sumo wrestling. 206 00:09:48,667 --> 00:09:51,867 (laughter) 207 00:09:51,867 --> 00:09:54,737 Mr. Gibbs: I was going to say something, but I -- 208 00:09:54,734 --> 00:09:56,834 The Press: Say happy birthday. 209 00:09:56,834 --> 00:09:59,034 Mr. Gibbs: True. 210 00:09:59,033 --> 00:10:04,963 The Press: Other than talking to members of Congress, 211 00:10:04,967 --> 00:10:08,437 what is so important that the President needs to be here for 212 00:10:08,433 --> 00:10:09,403 those extra two days? 213 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,770 I understand that the members of Congress were asking President 214 00:10:11,767 --> 00:10:15,837 Obama to do this, that you're not imposing his presence, 215 00:10:15,834 --> 00:10:19,904 but what can he -- what difference will it make? 216 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:25,100 Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, Jake, I think the President will use the time, 217 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:28,130 as I said earlier, to speak either individually with or in 218 00:10:28,133 --> 00:10:33,963 small groups with members that may be at this point undecided 219 00:10:33,967 --> 00:10:36,067 on how they'll vote. 220 00:10:36,066 --> 00:10:39,966 The President I think will take the opportunity to once again 221 00:10:39,967 --> 00:10:44,637 reiterate his case for why this reform is so important, 222 00:10:44,633 --> 00:10:47,133 why it's important to do this now, 223 00:10:47,133 --> 00:10:51,233 why it's important not to stop or to start over, 224 00:10:51,233 --> 00:10:55,103 why we're dealing with dramatic spikes in health insurance right 225 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:58,600 now, and why we have to deal with this problem. 226 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,430 The Press: Why do you think so many members -- 227 00:11:00,433 --> 00:11:05,163 I mean, 216 members of the House who voted for it in November, 228 00:11:05,166 --> 00:11:07,966 voted for the House bill, are still there -- 229 00:11:07,967 --> 00:11:09,197 and that's a majority. 230 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:15,030 Why do you think so many of them are having second thoughts? 231 00:11:15,033 --> 00:11:18,803 Mr. Gibbs: Well, Jake, I think some of them are likely waiting for finished 232 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,630 CBO scoring. 233 00:11:20,633 --> 00:11:26,503 I think that's a natural thing to wait for and I think they'll 234 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:30,030 have time to evaluate that scoring and to evaluate the 235 00:11:30,033 --> 00:11:32,463 legislation in full. 236 00:11:32,467 --> 00:11:35,397 But, again, I think the President believes that he can 237 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,370 make a very strong case for why this is important to do right now. 238 00:11:39,367 --> 00:11:43,797 The Press: And, lastly, as you know, a lot of House Democrats are 239 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,470 distrustful of the Senate -- of Senate Democrats, 240 00:11:47,467 --> 00:11:51,467 and they're worried that with the way the parliamentarian has 241 00:11:51,467 --> 00:11:56,937 ruled they're going to be tricked somehow into passing the 242 00:11:56,934 --> 00:11:59,764 Senate bill and then the fixes to the Senate bill, 243 00:11:59,767 --> 00:12:02,397 and the Senate won't pass the fixes and they will have been 244 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,400 tricked into passing the Senate bill that a lot of them don't 245 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,370 like without those fixes. 246 00:12:08,367 --> 00:12:11,097 Is President Obama reassuring them, 247 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:14,400 telling these House Democrats that if the reconciliation, 248 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,570 if the fix doesn't pass the Senate bill in itself, 249 00:12:19,567 --> 00:12:21,567 he won't sign that bill? 250 00:12:21,567 --> 00:12:22,537 Or -- 251 00:12:22,533 --> 00:12:24,833 Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, again -- and I mentioned some of this yesterday 252 00:12:24,834 --> 00:12:27,664 -- I think some of this -- I don't want to wade into the 253 00:12:27,667 --> 00:12:31,097 parliamentary politics on Capitol Hill, 254 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:37,430 except to say this, the President is talking with -- 255 00:12:37,433 --> 00:12:40,603 not just with members of the House on the vote that they're 256 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,830 going to have to make, but also with members of the Senate to 257 00:12:45,834 --> 00:12:51,434 ensure that the corrections that the President sees as so 258 00:12:51,433 --> 00:12:54,263 important -- not just the House, but the President sees as so 259 00:12:54,266 --> 00:12:57,066 important -- are also acted on. 260 00:12:57,066 --> 00:13:01,396 And so I don't -- this is -- it's a dual track. 261 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,030 It works together, but the President is working on both of 262 00:13:05,033 --> 00:13:06,163 those issues. 263 00:13:06,166 --> 00:13:08,536 The Press: You think -- will -- is it possible, 264 00:13:08,533 --> 00:13:11,103 in any way you look at it, that one would happen -- 265 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:13,370 that the Senate bill would pass but the fixes would not, 266 00:13:13,367 --> 00:13:15,037 and the Senate bill would become law? 267 00:13:15,033 --> 00:13:18,363 Because that's what House members are worried about. 268 00:13:18,367 --> 00:13:19,497 Mr. Gibbs: They're concerned. 269 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:22,300 I think that's why the President is spending time also dealing 270 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:28,800 with senators to ensure that they are supportive of those 271 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,100 legislative fixes on their side of it, too. 272 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:34,200 The Press: Thanks, Robert. 273 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,030 Representative Dreier, in referring to the President's 274 00:13:37,033 --> 00:13:41,533 delay, said today, "We know that they are doing everything within 275 00:13:41,533 --> 00:13:44,263 their power to try and twist arms and encourage people to 276 00:13:44,266 --> 00:13:47,566 vote for something that is extraordinarily unpopular and I 277 00:13:47,567 --> 00:13:50,667 believe would be devastating for our nation's economy." 278 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:53,267 What do you say to Americans who are still having a difficult 279 00:13:53,266 --> 00:13:55,736 time buying the President's plan? 280 00:13:55,734 --> 00:13:57,034 Mr. Gibbs: Like Mr. Dreier? 281 00:13:57,033 --> 00:13:58,163 (laughter) 282 00:13:58,166 --> 00:13:59,296 The Press: Well, Dreier and others. 283 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:00,630 He's not the only one. 284 00:14:00,633 --> 00:14:05,163 Mr. Gibbs: Yes, I would probably tell Mr. Dreier the same thing 285 00:14:05,166 --> 00:14:07,436 Mr. Dreier from California. 286 00:14:07,433 --> 00:14:09,533 People in his state are getting the letters that we've talked 287 00:14:09,533 --> 00:14:14,933 about here for the past several weeks; the letters that say, 288 00:14:14,934 --> 00:14:16,104 "I know you've paid your premiums, 289 00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:18,830 I know you haven't gotten sick, but you're in the individual 290 00:14:18,834 --> 00:14:22,134 health insurance market, and your health insurance rates are 291 00:14:22,133 --> 00:14:25,663 going up 39% next year." 292 00:14:25,667 --> 00:14:27,837 That's what we're dealing with. 293 00:14:27,834 --> 00:14:30,334 That's what we have to take on. 294 00:14:30,333 --> 00:14:34,503 We have to provide the ability for a small business in the 295 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:36,430 state of California and throughout this country, 296 00:14:36,433 --> 00:14:39,603 or in Mr. Dreier's district, or a family that's struggling with 297 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:46,600 the high cost of health care, to get them some help. 298 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:54,430 The President is doing this because he believes that this is 299 00:14:54,433 --> 00:14:58,263 the right thing to do for our country -- 300 00:14:58,266 --> 00:15:05,796 to have a health care and health insurance network that works not 301 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,670 just for health insurance companies but works for average, 302 00:15:09,667 --> 00:15:12,067 everyday working Americans. 303 00:15:12,066 --> 00:15:13,996 That's why he continues to pursue this, 304 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,770 and that's why he'll see it to passage soon. 305 00:15:17,767 --> 00:15:21,167 The Press: Does it frustrate the President at all that he's been making 306 00:15:21,166 --> 00:15:24,596 this big push, pointing out what the insurance industry has been 307 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,800 doing with the premium hikes -- does it frustrate him that the 308 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,130 message still isn't getting through to some? 309 00:15:30,133 --> 00:15:37,103 Mr. Gibbs: I don't think the message -- I think the President is -- 310 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:40,500 I think the President feels some momentum on this issue. 311 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:43,600 I think the President believes that while many thought this 312 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:49,400 issue was going to go away or was dead a few weeks ago has 313 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,370 gotten new life, I think largely because we've seen insurers send 314 00:15:54,367 --> 00:15:56,437 out the letters that I'm talking about. 315 00:15:56,433 --> 00:16:00,333 The Press: On the AfPak meeting, can you tell us more about that? 316 00:16:00,333 --> 00:16:03,463 Mr. Gibbs: Let me give you a quick readout, and then we can go through a 317 00:16:03,467 --> 00:16:05,037 couple of questions. 318 00:16:05,033 --> 00:16:07,963 The President met with his national security team as part 319 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:12,437 of the regular updates that he receives on Afghanistan and Pakistan. 320 00:16:12,433 --> 00:16:15,803 This was part of the monthly video teleconferencing. 321 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,930 The next one I believe is scheduled for April 16th. 322 00:16:19,934 --> 00:16:21,804 The meeting began with a briefing from General 323 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,230 McChrystal, who noted a continued progress in the Marja 324 00:16:25,233 --> 00:16:29,003 offensive and the strengthening partnership with Afghan national 325 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,730 security forces. 326 00:16:30,734 --> 00:16:32,634 The President and his team discussed a range of issues 327 00:16:32,633 --> 00:16:35,163 related to security and governance. 328 00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:37,396 The President also received a briefing from Ambassador 329 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,070 Patterson, our ambassador in Islamabad, 330 00:16:41,066 --> 00:16:43,966 on our security cooperation with Pakistan and support for the 331 00:16:43,967 --> 00:16:47,037 Pakistani people. 332 00:16:47,033 --> 00:16:52,403 Of note that General McChrystal told the group, 333 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,800 including obviously the President, 334 00:16:53,800 --> 00:17:00,700 that we were on schedule on our force flow in getting additional 335 00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:04,700 forces approved by the President into Afghanistan by the end of 336 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:07,530 the summer. 337 00:17:07,533 --> 00:17:11,503 They discussed in surrounding Marja that we were largely 338 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:19,030 through the clearing phase and more rapidly moving to a phase 339 00:17:19,033 --> 00:17:24,703 of hold, which puts a premium obviously on good governance. 340 00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:29,300 And we spent quite a bit of time discussing the Afghan national 341 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:34,500 security forces, the army and the police forces, 342 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:38,430 the training and some adjustments that the President 343 00:17:38,433 --> 00:17:42,763 and the team have been working on around recruitment and 344 00:17:42,767 --> 00:17:49,067 retention of police and army forces dating back to the 345 00:17:49,066 --> 00:17:52,196 President's original meetings in the Situation Room prior to his 346 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,600 decision in December. 347 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,600 The Press: And one quick thing. 348 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,970 Is the administration pleased with the Pakistani government in 349 00:17:58,967 --> 00:18:03,397 the effort fighting terrorism, or does Pakistan need to do more? 350 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,230 Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, we have had -- we've enjoyed I think a almost 351 00:18:08,233 --> 00:18:12,003 unprecedented level of cooperation with them, 352 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,730 dating back probably almost a year now, 353 00:18:17,734 --> 00:18:26,134 to extremist movements that threatened the Pakistanis and I 354 00:18:26,133 --> 00:18:29,903 think in many ways alerted them to many of the concerns that we 355 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:32,670 had long had. 356 00:18:32,667 --> 00:18:36,437 We feel like we're making progress each and every day, 357 00:18:36,433 --> 00:18:42,503 and I think in the update that he got from Ambassador Patterson 358 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:44,770 that was conveyed. 359 00:18:44,767 --> 00:18:45,567 Yes, ma'am. 360 00:18:45,567 --> 00:18:48,797 The Press: I'm sure the President is aware that it's against international 361 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,100 law to annex occupied land. 362 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:56,200 Why do we keep giving, as Vice President Biden did, 363 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,530 iron-clad commitments to Israel when it violates international law? 364 00:19:01,533 --> 00:19:05,463 And the President says that our relationship is unshakeable. 365 00:19:05,467 --> 00:19:06,967 How can that be? 366 00:19:06,967 --> 00:19:12,437 Mr. Gibbs: Well, we enjoy a strong and important relationship with the 367 00:19:12,433 --> 00:19:14,803 country and the people of Israel. 368 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:15,900 And we are -- 369 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:18,400 The Press: Even when it violates the law? 370 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,970 I mean, you go into this whole thing -- why should they be -- 371 00:19:22,967 --> 00:19:24,697 get this reprieve? 372 00:19:24,700 --> 00:19:27,870 Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, we enjoy a strong relationship with the country 373 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:30,597 and the people. 374 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:36,600 We are committed to their security in a very important and dangerous -- 375 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,800 The Press: How about the Palestinian security? 376 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,970 Mr. Gibbs: Well, let me finish my answer, Helen -- 377 00:19:40,967 --> 00:19:44,267 in a very important region of the world. 378 00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:45,796 I think the Vice President, though, 379 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,600 could not have been clearer on, as I said and as the Vice 380 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,430 President said, on both the timing and the substance of the 381 00:19:53,433 --> 00:19:56,933 announcement that was made during his trip, 382 00:19:56,934 --> 00:20:01,104 that we have asked each side to refrain from the type of 383 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:07,070 announcements that would shake the trust needed to sit down 384 00:20:07,066 --> 00:20:14,666 together and make some decisions on moving forward on a peace process. 385 00:20:14,667 --> 00:20:18,767 So I think the Vice President was extremely clear on his trip there. 386 00:20:18,767 --> 00:20:20,797 I know the President looks forward to speaking with the 387 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,100 Vice President. 388 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:25,600 He's -- he'll get back very, very early tomorrow morning, 389 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,870 and I anticipate that they'll either -- 390 00:20:27,867 --> 00:20:32,697 they'll likely talk either later in the weekend or first thing on 391 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:36,500 Monday about what the Vice President saw, 392 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:39,600 not just in Israel but in the region, 393 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,370 as we try to move things forward. 394 00:20:42,367 --> 00:20:46,267 The Press: We've already seen the violation on the part of one party. 395 00:20:46,266 --> 00:20:48,436 What is the U.S. going to do about it? 396 00:20:48,433 --> 00:20:50,733 Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, I think that the Vice President was extremely 397 00:20:50,734 --> 00:20:55,704 strong in condemning what the Israeli government announced 398 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:57,430 during his trip. 399 00:20:57,433 --> 00:20:58,503 Chip. 400 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:00,570 The Press: You said that the President is feeling some momentum 401 00:21:00,567 --> 00:21:01,797 on health care. 402 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,770 Congressman Weiner, who has long been urging the President to be 403 00:21:04,767 --> 00:21:07,297 more involved, said that as a result of the President's recent 404 00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:11,730 increased involvement, there is now a tidal change in the last 405 00:21:11,734 --> 00:21:13,104 72 hours up there. 406 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:16,500 Do you agree that the change has been that great in degree? 407 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:20,900 And if so, was it because of the President's uptick in involvement? 408 00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:25,870 And if so, why didn't he do it sooner? 409 00:21:25,867 --> 00:21:28,837 Mr. Gibbs: Again, I don't -- I probably said this a thousand times, 410 00:21:28,834 --> 00:21:31,104 but I'll add another one to it. 411 00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:35,430 I doubt the President -- I doubt we'd be where we are on health 412 00:21:35,433 --> 00:21:39,563 care, after this long, if the President wasn't personally 413 00:21:39,567 --> 00:21:45,497 invested in, from the very beginning, on getting this done. 414 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:50,170 I think, Chip, as the President said at the State of the Union, 415 00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:51,966 it's pretty clear, by some of the polling numbers, 416 00:21:51,967 --> 00:21:57,337 we're not doing this out of -- for sheer political benefit. 417 00:21:57,333 --> 00:22:00,863 I think there are -- you don't have to -- 418 00:22:00,867 --> 00:22:05,297 you can swing a cat in this town and hit somebody that believes 419 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:11,370 that the President should just give this up for political considerations. 420 00:22:11,367 --> 00:22:15,767 The President, I think, has been pretty clear about why he's made 421 00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:18,267 decisions during his time as President -- 422 00:22:18,266 --> 00:22:22,336 not because they're easy, not because they're in the next 423 00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:24,433 day's political interests, but because they're the right thing 424 00:22:24,433 --> 00:22:25,563 for the country. 425 00:22:25,567 --> 00:22:29,267 So I think what has provided health care with the most 426 00:22:29,266 --> 00:22:31,736 momentum, quite honestly, in the past several weeks, 427 00:22:31,734 --> 00:22:35,564 are the insurance company rate increases. 428 00:22:35,567 --> 00:22:40,767 I think they have crystallized for many across the country what happens. 429 00:22:40,767 --> 00:22:43,897 We've seen report after report from Wall Street about what 430 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:46,270 happens if reform fails. 431 00:22:46,266 --> 00:22:47,736 They all agree that insurance companies, 432 00:22:47,734 --> 00:22:51,504 like the ones that raise rates, are likely to be the big winners 433 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:52,570 out of this. 434 00:22:52,567 --> 00:22:56,037 The Press: And in delaying the trip, to what degree was that because of 435 00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:58,233 pressure from Democrats in Congress? 436 00:22:58,233 --> 00:23:02,633 And did he -- did Nancy Pelosi specifically ask him to do this? 437 00:23:02,633 --> 00:23:08,503 Mr. Gibbs: No, the President talked to the Speaker and the Majority Leader. 438 00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:11,400 They discussed what would be most beneficial for this 439 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:18,500 process, and agreed together to move the trip back a few days. 440 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,470 But the President and, as I said earlier, 441 00:23:20,467 --> 00:23:24,197 the Majority Leader and the Speaker believe it's important 442 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,870 that the President go on this trip. 443 00:23:25,867 --> 00:23:28,867 Again, this is a very important region of the world. 444 00:23:28,867 --> 00:23:31,137 If we don't help lead in this region of the world, 445 00:23:31,133 --> 00:23:33,003 other people will. 446 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,500 It is in our national interest to have strong bilateral 447 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,970 relationships with emerging democracies like Indonesia and 448 00:23:38,967 --> 00:23:40,797 important partners like Australia. 449 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,300 I've seen some people say, you know, well, 450 00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:45,070 why does the President have to do this, 451 00:23:45,066 --> 00:23:49,066 because there's not some big multilateral conference that 452 00:23:49,066 --> 00:23:52,336 he's attending, or this -- as I said, we're at -- 453 00:23:52,333 --> 00:24:00,703 we have long -- long ago have been -- 454 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:03,300 for quite some time we've been absent from, again, 455 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:05,600 this important region of the world. 456 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,530 We have important partnerships that lead to increasing our 457 00:24:09,533 --> 00:24:12,763 security, increasing our economic growth, 458 00:24:12,767 --> 00:24:14,937 and increasing the likelihood that we deal with important 459 00:24:14,934 --> 00:24:18,304 problems in having strong bilateral relationships with 460 00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:20,300 places like Indonesia and Australia. 461 00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:22,500 The Press: And the central reason that the three of them decided that 462 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:25,030 delaying the trip was the thing to do? 463 00:24:25,033 --> 00:24:28,233 Mr. Gibbs: To give a little bit more time to get health care done. 464 00:24:28,233 --> 00:24:29,463 The Press: One other question. 465 00:24:29,467 --> 00:24:31,297 You had said earlier in the week that the President was not 466 00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:33,170 calling individual members yet but -- 467 00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:34,366 Mr. Gibbs: He had not at that point. 468 00:24:34,367 --> 00:24:35,497 The Press: Okay, he has now. 469 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:38,200 Mr. Gibbs: He has -- I mean, obviously he's talked to -- 470 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,330 he's had meetings with. 471 00:24:40,333 --> 00:24:43,563 There have been other events that individuals have been here for. 472 00:24:43,567 --> 00:24:50,037 I know obviously on Monday he had talked to members who had 473 00:24:50,033 --> 00:24:53,363 visited for, like, a PAYGO reception or things like that. 474 00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:56,337 He has made individual calls now and I anticipate he'll continue 475 00:24:56,333 --> 00:24:57,403 to do that. 476 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,270 The Press: Is he spending most of his day or a good portion of his day 477 00:24:59,266 --> 00:25:00,396 doing that? 478 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,530 Mr. Gibbs: He's spending part of his day. 479 00:25:01,533 --> 00:25:04,833 I mean, again, he spent -- the Afghanistan meeting, 480 00:25:04,834 --> 00:25:08,304 Afghanistan/Pakistan update was scheduled for 60 minutes and the 481 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:10,970 meeting went 90 today. 482 00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,897 The Press: Any chance we could get a call list of who he's called? 483 00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:14,830 Mr. Gibbs: Not likely. 484 00:25:14,834 --> 00:25:16,734 (laughter) 485 00:25:16,734 --> 00:25:19,534 The Press: You said the President is leaving on -- 10 a.m. Sunday -- 486 00:25:19,533 --> 00:25:21,003 Mr. Gibbs: I think it's 10 a.m., yes. 487 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,270 The Press: -- the 21st, regardless of whether the House has 488 00:25:23,266 --> 00:25:24,936 voted or not? 489 00:25:24,934 --> 00:25:27,464 Mr. Gibbs: The President is going on a trip on the 21st. 490 00:25:27,467 --> 00:25:29,937 The Press: Regardless of whether the House has voted or not? 491 00:25:29,934 --> 00:25:34,134 Mr. Gibbs: The President is going on the 21st. 492 00:25:34,133 --> 00:25:37,263 The Press: You announced on Twitter this morning that -- 493 00:25:37,266 --> 00:25:38,996 this development and that the First Family would not be 494 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,000 joining him. 495 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,030 Mr. Gibbs: Yes. 496 00:25:41,033 --> 00:25:42,503 The Press: Can you shed any light on why that particular 497 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,470 decision was made? 498 00:25:43,467 --> 00:25:48,797 Mr. Gibbs: Scheduling-wise, the way now the trip sits in the week is not as 499 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,570 good for two young girls who have to go back to school at the 500 00:25:53,567 --> 00:25:56,537 conclusion of that trip. 501 00:25:56,533 --> 00:26:00,763 I will say this: This was -- and I should have said this 502 00:26:00,767 --> 00:26:03,667 yesterday, Chip, to your question -- 503 00:26:03,667 --> 00:26:06,197 even under the old itinerary, the President was not scheduled 504 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,130 to stop at the house that he spent time in when he lived in 505 00:26:09,133 --> 00:26:13,033 Indonesia, nor was he scheduled to go to the school that he attended. 506 00:26:13,033 --> 00:26:17,733 So I should have said that yesterday in answer to your question. 507 00:26:17,734 --> 00:26:21,434 But the way now the trip sits in the week, 508 00:26:21,433 --> 00:26:24,163 it's not as conducive for them to go. 509 00:26:24,166 --> 00:26:26,496 And I will say when you get your renewed itinerary, 510 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,730 you'll see it's a brisk trip. 511 00:26:28,734 --> 00:26:30,664 The Press: Members of the House who met with the President last week 512 00:26:30,667 --> 00:26:35,567 said that he told them that success on other high-priority 513 00:26:35,567 --> 00:26:38,137 pieces of legislation is predicated on success on health 514 00:26:38,133 --> 00:26:40,603 care -- energy, immigration. 515 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,730 Does the President believe that he will have a diminished chance 516 00:26:43,734 --> 00:26:48,034 of passing other items this year if health care is not passed in Congress? 517 00:26:48,033 --> 00:26:52,433 Mr. Gibbs: Well, I've not spoken directly with the President about what 518 00:26:52,433 --> 00:26:53,803 you've heard members say. 519 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,730 I think the President -- leaving aside what it does for any other 520 00:26:56,734 --> 00:27:01,164 issue, as I said earlier I think the President believes strongly 521 00:27:01,166 --> 00:27:09,596 in the desire to see progress on an issue that we've talked about 522 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,300 for decades, to do something positive on behalf of those that 523 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:19,030 are struggling with high costs, and dealing with insurance 524 00:27:19,033 --> 00:27:20,503 companies on preexisting conditions, 525 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:22,400 and it's important to get something done. 526 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,270 The Press: Finally, the immigration groups, the leaders that were out in the 527 00:27:25,266 --> 00:27:27,436 driveway yesterday, said that they pressed the President for a 528 00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:30,733 bill in the Senate by the end of April. 529 00:27:30,734 --> 00:27:32,934 Does the President want a bill in the Senate by the end of April? 530 00:27:32,934 --> 00:27:34,634 Does he buy into that deadline? 531 00:27:34,633 --> 00:27:36,663 Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, I will say that in addition to meeting with 532 00:27:36,667 --> 00:27:38,897 activists, in addition to meeting with the Congressional 533 00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:41,670 Hispanic Caucus, as you know, the President met yesterday with 534 00:27:41,667 --> 00:27:46,937 Senators Schumer and Graham, pleased to get an update on 535 00:27:46,934 --> 00:27:52,234 their progress in forging a proposal to fix our immigration system. 536 00:27:52,233 --> 00:27:57,463 The President -- they asked the President and he agreed to 537 00:27:57,467 --> 00:28:03,137 review their framework, and we're in the process of doing that now. 538 00:28:03,133 --> 00:28:04,163 The Press: Can I follow on Mike? 539 00:28:04,166 --> 00:28:05,396 Mr. Gibbs: Sure. 540 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,300 The Press: Isn't it more important for the girls to go to this trip and 541 00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:12,100 miss a few days of school, despite how brisk the trip is? 542 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,930 Mr. Gibbs: Well, it's a decision I would leave to the parents, 543 00:28:14,934 --> 00:28:19,834 and I think it's -- having a six-year-old, 544 00:28:19,834 --> 00:28:24,364 I think it's important that they also spend some time -- 545 00:28:24,367 --> 00:28:25,797 Lord knows we've had enough snow days -- 546 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,000 they spend some time in school. 547 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,300 But again, that's way above -- that is above my pay grade by 548 00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:34,130 many, many rungs on the ladder. 549 00:28:34,133 --> 00:28:35,463 The Press: And by the way, that phrase "swing a cat," 550 00:28:35,467 --> 00:28:37,767 if you swing most cats, you get scratched, you know. 551 00:28:37,767 --> 00:28:41,097 Mr. Gibbs: Well, I may do that right up here with the front row. 552 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,230 (laughter) 553 00:28:42,233 --> 00:28:43,203 Go ahead. 554 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,300 The Press: Robert -- 555 00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:45,500 Mr. Gibbs: I'm getting a little warm so I may change here in a second. 556 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:46,600 Go ahead. 557 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,130 The Press: Looking ahead to this Ohio stuff on Monday, 558 00:28:48,133 --> 00:28:50,003 is there going to be a retooled message? 559 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,200 Will there be a -- like, more of a sense of urgency in the 560 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,630 closing days? 561 00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:55,963 What can we look for there? 562 00:28:55,967 --> 00:28:58,267 Mr. Gibbs: Look, I think you'll hear the President -- 563 00:28:58,266 --> 00:29:00,296 I think the President will spend time hitting a lot of the themes 564 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:06,830 that he hit on Wednesday and on last Monday: going through why 565 00:29:06,834 --> 00:29:10,304 reform is important; going through what it will do the 566 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:13,800 minute he signs the legislation on behalf of millions of 567 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,600 Americans; discussing what happens, again, 568 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,670 if we decide now is not the time. 569 00:29:19,667 --> 00:29:21,967 And I think he'll reiterate again what I said earlier, 570 00:29:21,967 --> 00:29:26,667 in the fact that we're doing this not because it's easy; 571 00:29:26,667 --> 00:29:33,767 we're doing this not because the President is concerned about or 572 00:29:33,767 --> 00:29:38,837 looking to the next election, but looking to the next generation. 573 00:29:38,834 --> 00:29:44,134 And I think he'll reiterate that it's the important thing to do. 574 00:29:44,133 --> 00:29:46,933 The Press: One housekeeping question. 575 00:29:46,934 --> 00:29:49,434 As Mike mentioned, you made this trip announcement on Twitter 576 00:29:49,433 --> 00:29:51,103 this morning. 577 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:56,130 It still hasn't shown up on any of our usual vehicles through 578 00:29:56,133 --> 00:29:57,833 your office officially. 579 00:29:57,834 --> 00:30:01,434 Is Twitter now going to become your vehicle of choice to tell 580 00:30:01,433 --> 00:30:03,003 us major things -- 581 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,570 Mr. Gibbs: Part of the reason -- part of the reason I did that, 582 00:30:04,567 --> 00:30:08,437 I bet some of you got emails that I sent you several hours 583 00:30:08,433 --> 00:30:11,563 after I actually sent them to you because there were some 584 00:30:11,567 --> 00:30:14,667 email issues here at the White House and we felt like it was 585 00:30:14,667 --> 00:30:18,267 important to get a confirmation of that out. 586 00:30:18,266 --> 00:30:27,366 I would say Twitter is a quick medium to get information out, 587 00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:28,897 and we'll probably use it more often. 588 00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:31,900 The Press: You know, there are about 20 or 25 other Robert Gibbses 589 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:33,000 on Twitter -- 590 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,230 (laughter) 591 00:30:34,233 --> 00:30:35,903 -- some of them who deign to use your picture -- 592 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:36,900 I don't know why -- 593 00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:38,170 (laughter) 594 00:30:38,166 --> 00:30:41,636 -- or the presidential seal or the podium. 595 00:30:41,633 --> 00:30:45,763 Are you concerned that one of these guys is going to hijack 596 00:30:45,767 --> 00:30:50,867 your message and, you know, maybe burn you at some point? 597 00:30:50,867 --> 00:30:52,937 Mr. Gibbs: No. 598 00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:55,804 I will say this, I mean, again, I think if you go to -- 599 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,630 I don't know how many Robert Gibbs there are, 600 00:30:58,633 --> 00:31:04,803 but if you go to @presssec, you'll see that there is a 601 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,600 verification for -- 602 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,730 The Press: There is, indeed. 603 00:31:07,734 --> 00:31:11,134 Mr. Gibbs: So obviously -- 604 00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:14,333 The Press: Several of them use that -- use a formulation with "presssec" 605 00:31:14,333 --> 00:31:16,103 in it, too. 606 00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:17,500 The Press: They're very funny. 607 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:19,430 Mr. Gibbs: I think some of them are quite humorous. 608 00:31:19,433 --> 00:31:22,063 I would, again, look for the verification, 609 00:31:22,066 --> 00:31:24,766 and of course we only make big announcements in hockey jerseys. 610 00:31:24,767 --> 00:31:27,037 So I'd say look for that. 611 00:31:27,033 --> 00:31:28,033 Yes, sir. 612 00:31:28,033 --> 00:31:29,563 The Press: On the Fed announcements, you mentioned there are three that 613 00:31:29,567 --> 00:31:30,737 are leading contenders. 614 00:31:30,734 --> 00:31:32,404 Does that mean there are lagging contenders? 615 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,170 How big is the pool? 616 00:31:34,166 --> 00:31:35,996 Mr. Gibbs: I wouldn't get into characterizing. 617 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,670 I would just -- I put a few monikers on those names to 618 00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:43,937 describe where they are in the process. 619 00:31:43,934 --> 00:31:46,064 The Press: But there are other names in the process? 620 00:31:46,066 --> 00:31:47,196 Mr. Gibbs: There are other names, sure. 621 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,600 The Press: And what does it mean to be a leading indicator? 622 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,770 Does that mean they -- 623 00:31:49,767 --> 00:31:50,837 Mr. Gibbs: A leading contender. 624 00:31:50,834 --> 00:31:52,004 The Press: A leading contender. 625 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,300 Mr. Gibbs: It means you've done well in your weight class, 626 00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:55,470 you've done -- no. 627 00:31:55,467 --> 00:31:58,167 I would say -- I would put those at the top of the President's list. 628 00:31:58,166 --> 00:31:59,436 The Press: Have they spoken to the President? 629 00:31:59,433 --> 00:32:01,933 Has the President offered them the job? 630 00:32:01,934 --> 00:32:03,734 Mr. Gibbs: When we have official announcements, 631 00:32:03,734 --> 00:32:04,904 we'll put them on Twitter. 632 00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:06,970 (laughter) 633 00:32:06,967 --> 00:32:07,767 I'm joking. 634 00:32:07,767 --> 00:32:08,767 I'm joking. 635 00:32:08,767 --> 00:32:09,767 I'm joking. 636 00:32:09,767 --> 00:32:12,237 I'm joking. 637 00:32:12,233 --> 00:32:14,133 Come on, I'm wearing a hockey jersey, for God's sake. 638 00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:15,703 (laughter) 639 00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:16,670 Go ahead. 640 00:32:16,667 --> 00:32:17,637 The Press: Well, it makes it funnier, I guess. 641 00:32:17,633 --> 00:32:18,733 Mr. Gibbs: It does. 642 00:32:18,734 --> 00:32:20,534 The Press: Is it fair to say, Robert, that next Thursday and Friday the 643 00:32:20,533 --> 00:32:23,303 President will devote almost all of his attention to dealing with 644 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:26,570 health care -- the votes and the pending conversations he may be 645 00:32:26,567 --> 00:32:28,067 needing to have with House Democrats? 646 00:32:28,066 --> 00:32:32,866 Mr. Gibbs: Major, I'm sure he'll dedicate a good -- a portion of his day -- 647 00:32:32,867 --> 00:32:38,367 look, understanding that the -- there's not a shortage of things 648 00:32:38,367 --> 00:32:41,267 that we could spend time with the President on that are very pressing. 649 00:32:41,266 --> 00:32:43,636 The President starts -- generally starts each day with a 650 00:32:43,633 --> 00:32:48,603 daily intelligence briefing; almost always has an economic 651 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,930 daily briefing; a series of meetings with senior advisors. 652 00:32:52,934 --> 00:32:56,734 Again, I assume he'll spend certainly a portion of his day 653 00:32:56,734 --> 00:32:59,034 dealing with the issues of health care, 654 00:32:59,033 --> 00:33:01,503 but I have no doubt that we'll -- 655 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:04,330 we'll put on additional meetings on other topics that are of 656 00:33:04,333 --> 00:33:07,233 importance, whether they're the economy or whether they're 657 00:33:07,233 --> 00:33:08,433 national security. 658 00:33:08,433 --> 00:33:11,133 The Press: And the meeting yesterday, Senator Graham represented 659 00:33:11,133 --> 00:33:13,703 afterwards that he told the President face to face that if 660 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:17,630 reconciliation is used for health care in the Senate, 661 00:33:17,633 --> 00:33:20,863 that will kill any hope of putting immigration on the 662 00:33:20,867 --> 00:33:24,167 agenda as a doable item for the remainder of this legislative session. 663 00:33:24,166 --> 00:33:25,666 Does the President have any reaction to that? 664 00:33:25,667 --> 00:33:29,267 Mr. Gibbs: I have not talked to him directly about that statement. 665 00:33:29,266 --> 00:33:32,896 I doubt the President would have agreed with that. 666 00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:35,600 The Press: Why? 667 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,070 Mr. Gibbs: As we've talked about in this instance and about this issue 668 00:33:40,066 --> 00:33:46,866 before, reconciliation is something that has -- 669 00:33:46,867 --> 00:33:51,297 is a legislative tool that's been used on many, 670 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:56,030 many occasions, particularly as it relates to things like health care. 671 00:33:56,033 --> 00:34:00,263 And we talked about the fact that the Children's Health 672 00:34:00,266 --> 00:34:05,066 Insurance Program was done through reconciliation; 673 00:34:05,066 --> 00:34:11,436 the COBRA program was done through reconciliation. 674 00:34:11,433 --> 00:34:14,463 I don't know that Senator Graham believed that -- 675 00:34:14,467 --> 00:34:16,167 The Press: So would it be the President's perspective that that would be 676 00:34:16,166 --> 00:34:17,336 an alarmist -- 677 00:34:17,333 --> 00:34:19,163 Mr. Gibbs: Well, hold on, let me -- I don't believe that -- 678 00:34:19,166 --> 00:34:23,496 I don't believe that Senator Graham thought that it would do 679 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:28,800 damage to the legislative priorities of the President when 680 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,200 in 2001 and in 2003 tax cuts went through reconciliation. 681 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,330 So I wouldn't characterize it except to say I doubt the 682 00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:36,763 President agrees with it. 683 00:34:36,767 --> 00:34:37,737 The Press: Okay. 684 00:34:37,734 --> 00:34:39,434 One issue that's come up for Luis Gutierrez, 685 00:34:39,433 --> 00:34:41,363 who I believe attended the meeting with the President 686 00:34:41,367 --> 00:34:43,767 yesterday with the Congressional Hispanic Caucus -- 687 00:34:43,767 --> 00:34:46,567 Mr. Gibbs: I don't have a list of the -- we had a list of -- 688 00:34:46,567 --> 00:34:48,337 I think we put out a list of invitees. 689 00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:50,433 I do not know who was there. 690 00:34:50,433 --> 00:34:53,463 I can certainly check and see if Representative Gutierrez was there. 691 00:34:53,467 --> 00:34:54,867 The Press: Okay. 692 00:34:54,867 --> 00:34:56,467 One issue he raised today -- he still remains concerned, 693 00:34:56,467 --> 00:34:58,767 and he was when he voted for the House bill, 694 00:34:58,767 --> 00:35:01,297 about restrictions in the Senate bill, 695 00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:03,300 which of course is the underlying legislation, 696 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,000 and there are no known fixes being proposed on immigration 697 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,600 that I'm aware of -- please tell me if I'm wrong -- 698 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,930 that the Senate language is simply too restrictive and it 699 00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:12,764 doesn't allow undocumented workers, 700 00:35:12,767 --> 00:35:15,467 even with their own money, to purchase in the health exchange 701 00:35:15,467 --> 00:35:19,297 system, and would keep them -- prevent them from doing that for five years. 702 00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:22,100 He now says publicly he will vote no. 703 00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,230 Is that a concern to the White House? 704 00:35:25,233 --> 00:35:27,003 Is there something that the White House is open to in 705 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,200 dealing with that issue in fixing the legislation? 706 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,700 Or is that something that needs to -- 707 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:33,100 Mr. Gibbs: Let me check with Legislative Affairs. 708 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:36,900 I know that -- I don't know the degree to which -- 709 00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:40,670 I was not in yesterday's meeting so I can certainly try to check on that. 710 00:35:40,667 --> 00:35:43,297 The Press: Robert, yesterday you said some of the President's big 711 00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:49,170 priorities after health care are financial regulatory reform and 712 00:35:49,166 --> 00:35:50,766 the Citizens United case. 713 00:35:50,767 --> 00:35:52,997 What did you mean by that? 714 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,770 In other words, what can you do specifically about that ruling? 715 00:35:56,767 --> 00:35:59,597 Mr. Gibbs: Well, the legislation right now with Senator Schumer and 716 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:06,070 Congressman Van Hollen that would address some of the things 717 00:36:06,066 --> 00:36:09,866 that were opened up as a result of that Supreme Court ruling. 718 00:36:09,867 --> 00:36:11,567 We've certainly looked at that legislation, 719 00:36:11,567 --> 00:36:16,497 and I think counsel and others are evaluating that and other 720 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:24,370 vehicles in order to address -- to address what the Supreme 721 00:36:24,367 --> 00:36:26,197 Court opened up in their ruling. 722 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,470 The Press: One more question while you have the USA sweater on there. 723 00:36:30,467 --> 00:36:35,137 I draw your attention to a website that's posted a letter 724 00:36:35,133 --> 00:36:39,063 to "Barack the Red" -- not what you think it means. 725 00:36:39,066 --> 00:36:40,366 Mr. Gibbs: Do I need to get my Canadian jersey back? 726 00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:41,337 The Press: No. 727 00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:42,163 (laughter) 728 00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:43,866 They write, "These are trying times. 729 00:36:43,867 --> 00:36:46,837 Unemployment is in double digits ... Audacity? 730 00:36:46,834 --> 00:36:49,004 Check out number eight, Alexander Ovechkin. 731 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,030 Hope? 732 00:36:50,033 --> 00:36:51,663 This season has found the Capitals with better postseason 733 00:36:51,667 --> 00:36:53,337 prospects than any other year." 734 00:36:53,333 --> 00:36:56,463 They plaintively write at the end here, 735 00:36:56,467 --> 00:36:58,297 "The Capitals bandwagon is filling up quickly, 736 00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:00,070 but we need a leader." 737 00:37:00,066 --> 00:37:01,436 (laughter) 738 00:37:01,433 --> 00:37:02,833 Will the President commit to going to a Washington Capitals 739 00:37:02,834 --> 00:37:04,804 game this season? 740 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,070 Mr. Gibbs: I can't say -- 741 00:37:06,066 --> 00:37:07,396 The Press: It would be his first hockey game ever, right? 742 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,500 Mr. Gibbs: I can't say -- no, I think he's been to -- 743 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:12,970 I'll check and see if he's been to a game in Chicago or not -- 744 00:37:12,967 --> 00:37:15,737 less so in Hawaii. 745 00:37:15,734 --> 00:37:18,864 I will check on whether he's been to a game before. 746 00:37:18,867 --> 00:37:22,997 I don't know whether he'll do that before March 18th, but -- 747 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,300 The Press: He's got a couple extra days now. 748 00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:26,270 (laughter) 749 00:37:26,266 --> 00:37:27,336 Mr. Gibbs: Come on, guys. 750 00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:28,433 It's Friday, for God's sakes. 751 00:37:28,433 --> 00:37:29,563 (laughter) 752 00:37:29,567 --> 00:37:31,667 Look, I think he would very much enjoy going. 753 00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:35,067 Obviously the last time he ventured out to a sporting 754 00:37:35,066 --> 00:37:39,536 event, Georgetown looked like they did yesterday, 755 00:37:39,533 --> 00:37:42,033 not like they did in the previous several weeks. 756 00:37:42,033 --> 00:37:43,903 So, look, I know he enjoys going out there. 757 00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:46,500 I know that -- I think we've gotten invitations from the 758 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:48,270 owner to go. 759 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,866 And I know he'd be -- he can borrow my jersey. 760 00:37:50,867 --> 00:37:52,597 Yes, ma'am. 761 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,500 The Press: Robert, I wanted to ask you about the Afghanistan 762 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:56,130 meeting today. 763 00:37:56,133 --> 00:37:58,603 Did the issue of reconciliation -- not health care -- 764 00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,870 (laughter) 765 00:37:59,867 --> 00:38:02,267 -- but the reconciliation with the Taliban come up? 766 00:38:02,266 --> 00:38:04,566 Officials have said in the past that they think that the U.S. 767 00:38:04,567 --> 00:38:06,697 should only do that from a position of strength. 768 00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:11,100 Mr. Gibbs: I will say, Helene, I left with about two or three minutes to go 769 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:12,230 in the meeting. 770 00:38:12,233 --> 00:38:15,033 They were just getting to -- or I should I say I left when I 771 00:38:15,033 --> 00:38:16,603 thought two or three minutes were left in the meeting. 772 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,170 I will find out if there were additional conversations. 773 00:38:19,166 --> 00:38:21,666 This was something the President was bringing up as I left the 774 00:38:21,667 --> 00:38:23,997 meeting after about an hour and a half. 775 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,070 So let me see if there's any additional information on that. 776 00:38:29,066 --> 00:38:30,166 Yes, sir. 777 00:38:30,166 --> 00:38:31,366 The Press: Thank you, Robert. 778 00:38:31,367 --> 00:38:33,297 Two questions on Pennsylvania. 779 00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:38,000 First, last week both major parties chose candidates for the 780 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,500 western Pennsylvania seat of the late John Murtha. 781 00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:45,630 The President campaigned for Bill Owens in New York last year 782 00:38:45,633 --> 00:38:48,433 and for Ms. Coakley in Massachusetts. 783 00:38:48,433 --> 00:38:50,933 Does he plan to campaign for Mr. Critz? 784 00:38:50,934 --> 00:38:52,464 Mr. Gibbs: I don't have any scheduling information on that, 785 00:38:52,467 --> 00:38:54,767 and I can certainly check with Political Affairs. 786 00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:58,597 The Press: And the other thing: Do you have an answer yet on Mr. 787 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,970 Sestak's charge? 788 00:38:59,967 --> 00:39:01,597 Mr. Gibbs: I don't have any more information on that. 789 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,670 Peter. 790 00:39:02,667 --> 00:39:03,837 Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry -- go ahead. 791 00:39:03,834 --> 00:39:05,404 The Press: Robert -- thank you, Robert. 792 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,770 When all is said and done, isn't it really more for image that 793 00:39:08,767 --> 00:39:10,837 the President -- are you going to take off your -- 794 00:39:10,834 --> 00:39:12,904 Mr. Gibbs: Yes, it's getting a little warm in here, and it's not just me. 795 00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:14,100 The Press: Looks pretty good. 796 00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:15,530 Mr. Gibbs: Go ahead, I'm listening. 797 00:39:15,533 --> 00:39:18,303 (laughter) 798 00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:20,170 I can do two things at once, guys. 799 00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:21,496 The Press: Absolutely. 800 00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:23,530 When all is said and done, isn't it really a good argument that 801 00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:25,633 the President is going to go to -- 802 00:39:25,633 --> 00:39:29,263 going to postpone his trip really for image and not really 803 00:39:29,266 --> 00:39:30,366 for substance? 804 00:39:30,367 --> 00:39:32,267 You said before that he does have a telephone -- 805 00:39:32,266 --> 00:39:35,566 a cell phone on the plane; he's in touch with everybody; 806 00:39:35,567 --> 00:39:36,897 he could do it here. 807 00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:39,170 But, frankly, there's a lot of heat I think being generated 808 00:39:39,166 --> 00:39:42,596 that he's away from maybe some people think he should be here. 809 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,300 So how do you respond to those kinds of concerns? 810 00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:48,470 Mr. Gibbs: Look, the President shouldn't go at all? 811 00:39:48,467 --> 00:39:50,897 The Press: No, not that -- yes, you've made the point it's a good trip. 812 00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:52,030 But -- 813 00:39:52,033 --> 00:39:54,433 Mr. Gibbs: Well, no, it's an important trip; right. 814 00:39:54,433 --> 00:39:57,233 The Press: An important trip. 815 00:39:57,233 --> 00:39:59,703 Mr. Gibbs: Maybe I don't -- I'm failing to understand -- 816 00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,400 give me the first part of your question. 817 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,770 The Press: The President is now not going -- now postponing his trip. 818 00:40:05,767 --> 00:40:08,837 Couldn't the argument be made that it's more for image, 819 00:40:08,834 --> 00:40:10,204 that he really can do everything, 820 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,230 as you've said before, on the trip that he can do here, 821 00:40:13,233 --> 00:40:14,833 and now he's reversing course? 822 00:40:14,834 --> 00:40:20,004 Mr. Gibbs: No, I -- look, I -- as I said, certainly the plane comes, 823 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:26,230 in many ways regrettably, with all that equipment that would 824 00:40:26,233 --> 00:40:28,403 allow him to be in touch. 825 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:33,370 I think everybody believed that him being here was more important. 826 00:40:33,367 --> 00:40:37,567 The trip -- we didn't postpone the trip for any image sake. 827 00:40:37,567 --> 00:40:40,397 I think the -- in the discussion that the President had with the 828 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker and the Majority Leader in the Senate, 829 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,000 it was agreed upon that, quite frankly, we could do -- 830 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,730 we could give a few extra days here to what they needed as well 831 00:40:51,734 --> 00:40:56,164 as keep -- and I will say our scheduling guys have done a 832 00:40:56,166 --> 00:41:02,366 heroic job of keeping the trip intact in an important region of the world. 833 00:41:02,367 --> 00:41:06,197 So this is not done for anything other than a few extra days to 834 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,270 work on getting health care reform through the process, 835 00:41:10,266 --> 00:41:12,466 as well as keeping that important trip. 836 00:41:12,467 --> 00:41:14,937 The Press: Has he got a few people that he's specifically earmarking to 837 00:41:14,934 --> 00:41:17,564 talk to that he thinks might be able to change their minds, 838 00:41:17,567 --> 00:41:19,797 those who voted for and now might vote against, 839 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,670 or people he thinks he might be able to -- 840 00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:23,537 Mr. Gibbs: Look, without getting into a lot of names, 841 00:41:23,533 --> 00:41:29,263 I think we've all seen folks that have said they want to take 842 00:41:29,266 --> 00:41:31,066 a look at what the new legislation is. 843 00:41:31,066 --> 00:41:34,566 Again, I think people are rightly waiting for an 844 00:41:34,567 --> 00:41:40,997 evaluation from CBO as a way of answering some of the questions 845 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,070 that they have. 846 00:41:42,066 --> 00:41:45,836 I think the President certainly will talk to people about, 847 00:41:45,834 --> 00:41:48,434 again, why he thinks the bill is important and why he thinks it 848 00:41:48,433 --> 00:41:54,333 does so many good things on cost and things like that. 849 00:41:54,333 --> 00:41:55,133 Peter. 850 00:41:55,133 --> 00:41:56,133 The Press: Thanks, Robert. 851 00:41:56,133 --> 00:42:00,163 On immigration reform, will the President work to round up more 852 00:42:00,166 --> 00:42:03,596 Republican co-sponsors for the bill that Schumer and Graham are 853 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,530 working on? 854 00:42:05,533 --> 00:42:07,803 Mr. Gibbs: Let me not get ahead of the President's evaluation process 855 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,770 of the framework that they walked him through some yesterday. 856 00:42:12,767 --> 00:42:15,297 The Press: And also, do you expect that the President may give a public 857 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,700 statement or a speech of any kind on immigration, 858 00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,230 maybe before the rally in Washington on the 21st? 859 00:42:21,233 --> 00:42:22,563 Mr. Gibbs: Let me check with scheduling. 860 00:42:22,567 --> 00:42:23,897 I know the -- look, I will say this, 861 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:28,630 I know the President committed to Senators Schumer and Graham, 862 00:42:28,633 --> 00:42:32,203 to the Hispanic Caucus, and to activists, 863 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,300 as I think you read in his statement yesterday, 864 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:39,100 the importance of and his strong belief in getting comprehensive 865 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,130 reform done. 866 00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:45,403 He's a supporter of that, and obviously it is our strong hope 867 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,670 that we can make progress on this. 868 00:42:47,667 --> 00:42:49,697 The Press: Robert, there's talk on the Hill about putting the President's 869 00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:53,200 student loan proposal into the health care bill. 870 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,930 What does that have to do with health care, 871 00:42:54,934 --> 00:42:57,804 and why would that go in there? 872 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,700 Mr. Gibbs: I don't think any final decisions have been made. 873 00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:06,830 Obviously one way of getting important reforms through the 874 00:43:06,834 --> 00:43:09,564 legislative process would be in this vehicle. 875 00:43:09,567 --> 00:43:12,737 I think this is -- these are reforms that are good for 876 00:43:12,734 --> 00:43:16,664 students; they're really good for taxpayers; 877 00:43:16,667 --> 00:43:18,767 they're bad for special interests. 878 00:43:18,767 --> 00:43:20,497 I don't think -- again, I don't think any final decisions have 879 00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:21,800 been made on Capitol Hill. 880 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,770 I would point you up there. 881 00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:28,537 I know the President is a strong believer in a reform system that 882 00:43:28,533 --> 00:43:36,703 would cut out the middleman on borrowing money for millions of 883 00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:38,230 kids to go to college. 884 00:43:38,233 --> 00:43:40,403 The Press: Is it because -- I mean, but it also would save money. 885 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,900 Is it because it would bring down the overall cost of the 886 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:45,770 package, including the health care part? 887 00:43:45,767 --> 00:43:48,437 Mr. Gibbs: I don't have anything on that. 888 00:43:48,433 --> 00:43:51,503 Again, I know this is an important reform for the President. 889 00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:52,430 Yes, sir. 890 00:43:52,433 --> 00:43:53,533 The Press: Thank you, Robert. 891 00:43:53,533 --> 00:43:55,863 On Afghanistan and the meeting this morning, 892 00:43:55,867 --> 00:44:00,697 as General McChrystal -- is he satisfied with the NATO 893 00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:02,500 involvement in the Marja offensive -- 894 00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:04,670 the British and the Canadians were involved. 895 00:44:04,667 --> 00:44:08,867 And knowing that NATO hasn't been able yet to reach the goal 896 00:44:08,867 --> 00:44:13,737 of several thousand NATO soldiers on the ground, 897 00:44:13,734 --> 00:44:19,234 has the President or does the President intend to reach to 898 00:44:19,233 --> 00:44:21,833 NATO leaders, and the Canadian Prime Minister in particular, 899 00:44:21,834 --> 00:44:25,904 on this topic? 900 00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:29,770 Mr. Gibbs: NATO came up in the sense of discussing their contributions 901 00:44:29,767 --> 00:44:35,037 and in walking through the commitment that we need, 902 00:44:35,033 --> 00:44:36,903 quite honestly, from all of our partners, 903 00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:39,930 particularly in the realm of training. 904 00:44:39,934 --> 00:44:43,504 We did not discuss in the meeting any additional steps 905 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:47,670 that the President might take. 906 00:44:47,667 --> 00:44:51,567 Again, the President and many on the team understand the 907 00:44:51,567 --> 00:44:57,197 importance of what we have to do in -- 908 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,030 not just in force contributions. 909 00:44:59,033 --> 00:45:03,533 As I mentioned, General McChrystal believed that the 910 00:45:03,533 --> 00:45:09,403 pace of force flow from what the President had asked for was on schedule. 911 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,730 But we have critical improvements that have to be 912 00:45:12,734 --> 00:45:20,234 made as it relates to an Afghan national army and critical 913 00:45:20,233 --> 00:45:23,433 improvements that have to be made in an Afghan national 914 00:45:23,433 --> 00:45:31,363 police and the importance of getting additional trainers from 915 00:45:31,367 --> 00:45:35,737 NATO countries to Afghanistan as quickly as possible. 916 00:45:35,734 --> 00:45:43,064 We are -- in these meetings, the President has gone through and 917 00:45:43,066 --> 00:45:51,266 looked at monthly recruitment and retention goals because at 918 00:45:51,266 --> 00:45:55,666 some point we're going -- we're not going to be there forever. 919 00:45:55,667 --> 00:46:02,737 And the Afghan national army -- and in many districts not only 920 00:46:02,734 --> 00:46:04,634 are we going to need improved governance but we're going to 921 00:46:04,633 --> 00:46:09,863 need a police force that can keep the peace. 922 00:46:09,867 --> 00:46:13,137 So that came up, but there were no -- 923 00:46:13,133 --> 00:46:16,233 there was no discussion of additional calls by the President. 924 00:46:16,233 --> 00:46:17,563 Yes, sir. 925 00:46:17,567 --> 00:46:18,937 Oh, Stephen, you didn't have -- I thought you had some. 926 00:46:18,934 --> 00:46:23,634 The Press: Actually, just on that subject, will the President perhaps make 927 00:46:23,633 --> 00:46:27,563 a new request to Australia during his trip for more help in 928 00:46:27,567 --> 00:46:31,867 Afghanistan for perhaps trainers rather than combat troops? 929 00:46:31,867 --> 00:46:33,237 Mr. Gibbs: Let me check with NSC on that. 930 00:46:33,233 --> 00:46:35,033 That was not discussed. 931 00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:36,163 Yes, ma'am. 932 00:46:36,166 --> 00:46:38,696 The Press: Robert, back on the issue of the public option, 933 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:41,730 now that it's off of life support and it's now one of the 934 00:46:41,734 --> 00:46:45,664 casualties of the fight for health care reform, 935 00:46:45,667 --> 00:46:48,837 is the President looking at passage and then possibly going 936 00:46:48,834 --> 00:46:50,964 back after the passage to tweak it? 937 00:46:50,967 --> 00:46:53,167 And the reason why I ask that -- some members of the 938 00:46:53,166 --> 00:46:57,236 Congressional Black Caucus who were for the public option and 939 00:46:57,233 --> 00:47:01,563 now are saying, okay, there have problems before when we passed 940 00:47:01,567 --> 00:47:05,067 something and we've come back to tweak it, like on Medicare, 941 00:47:05,066 --> 00:47:06,136 Social Security. 942 00:47:06,133 --> 00:47:08,063 Is that the President's mindset as well, 943 00:47:08,066 --> 00:47:10,166 and did he talk to them about that? 944 00:47:10,166 --> 00:47:12,096 Did they have that kind of discussion yesterday? 945 00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:14,900 Mr. Gibbs: I will check with folks that -- I was not in that meeting 946 00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:17,230 because that was taking place during my briefing. 947 00:47:17,233 --> 00:47:19,703 I don't know whether that was something that was discussed. 948 00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:23,530 I know that the -- again, the President is focused on the 949 00:47:23,533 --> 00:47:27,163 legislation that we have at hand and in trying to get that 950 00:47:27,166 --> 00:47:30,396 through and I think that's what, again -- 951 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,230 The Press: So he's not looking down at the road at re-tweaks. 952 00:47:32,233 --> 00:47:33,503 He's just looking -- 953 00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:36,000 Mr. Gibbs: Right now we're focused on -- we can't re-tweak anything that we 954 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:42,070 can't get passed, and that's what our focus is at the moment. 955 00:47:42,066 --> 00:47:46,236 The Press: Robert, as you know, you had a little bit of a hiccup there at 956 00:47:46,233 --> 00:47:50,403 the end with the confirmation of Ben Bernanke at the Fed. 957 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,370 Neither one of these three potential appointees seem to 958 00:47:52,367 --> 00:47:54,537 have a lot of small business experience; 959 00:47:54,533 --> 00:47:57,263 they're fairly mainstream folks from the financial world. 960 00:47:57,266 --> 00:48:01,036 Five senators have just put out a letter to the President 961 00:48:01,033 --> 00:48:04,733 requesting that these three appointees have real-world 962 00:48:04,734 --> 00:48:09,364 experience, experience with the middle class and small business owners. 963 00:48:09,367 --> 00:48:11,497 Do these three folks have that kind of experience, 964 00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:14,100 and how do you respond to those concerns? 965 00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:15,770 Mr. Gibbs: I'm happy to look at the letter. 966 00:48:15,767 --> 00:48:22,667 I think that these are strong contenders. 967 00:48:22,667 --> 00:48:28,267 They have strong credentials. 968 00:48:28,266 --> 00:48:30,166 They have good experience. 969 00:48:30,166 --> 00:48:32,166 I'm happy to look at the letter and maybe have a better comment 970 00:48:32,166 --> 00:48:33,436 on it then. 971 00:48:33,433 --> 00:48:34,633 George. 972 00:48:34,633 --> 00:48:38,263 The Press: Boehner and McConnell have put out their names for the 973 00:48:38,266 --> 00:48:40,866 deficit commission. 974 00:48:40,867 --> 00:48:42,737 Do you have any reaction to those names? 975 00:48:42,734 --> 00:48:47,364 And when do you hope that commission gets up and working? 976 00:48:47,367 --> 00:48:51,237 Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, I think it's a positive development for the 977 00:48:51,233 --> 00:48:55,563 commission that while there was some concern about whether 978 00:48:55,567 --> 00:48:58,337 Republicans would put forward names they now have, 979 00:48:58,333 --> 00:49:05,303 and I think that's an important and a positive development, 980 00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:09,370 we think and hope that the rest of those names will be coming 981 00:49:09,367 --> 00:49:12,967 forward soon. 982 00:49:12,967 --> 00:49:20,197 Look, I think the President believes that this is an 983 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,730 important -- an important commission to look at all of the 984 00:49:24,734 --> 00:49:30,064 aspects of what this government spends money on and to evaluate 985 00:49:30,066 --> 00:49:34,366 its sustainability in the future. 986 00:49:34,367 --> 00:49:38,497 Obviously you've got many -- many of those choices have put 987 00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:41,900 forward, in the case of Congressman Ryan or in others, 988 00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:47,270 their own plans in the past, and I'm sure that will -- 989 00:49:47,266 --> 00:49:49,866 that will govern many of the recommendations and advice that 990 00:49:49,867 --> 00:49:52,267 some of those members have. 991 00:49:52,266 --> 00:49:56,096 Again, our strong hope is that in the next few weeks, 992 00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:59,430 not only will the commission be filled out but we'll have staff 993 00:49:59,433 --> 00:50:02,733 in place and that the commission can meet soon in order to 994 00:50:02,734 --> 00:50:05,704 generate recommendations, hopefully that Congress can act 995 00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:09,170 on quickly. 996 00:50:09,166 --> 00:50:10,396 Ken. 997 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,430 The Press: Robert, my understanding is that they're going to start marking 998 00:50:13,433 --> 00:50:16,163 up the reconciliation bill at the same time that we're going 999 00:50:16,166 --> 00:50:19,966 to be dealing with trying to get the Senate bill passed. 1000 00:50:19,967 --> 00:50:22,237 What's the White House role in that? 1001 00:50:22,233 --> 00:50:25,263 And also, won't that be a little bit confusing to be working on 1002 00:50:25,266 --> 00:50:28,066 sort of two tracks of health care at once? 1003 00:50:28,066 --> 00:50:38,966 Mr. Gibbs: No, no, look, I think the -- obviously the House will take up 1004 00:50:38,967 --> 00:50:40,367 the measure. 1005 00:50:40,367 --> 00:50:44,067 The Budget Committee has to take up in the House reconciliation, 1006 00:50:44,066 --> 00:50:46,066 begin that process. 1007 00:50:46,066 --> 00:50:48,636 I think the Speaker has said that that will be posted on the 1008 00:50:48,633 --> 00:50:53,203 Internet for some period of time. 1009 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,330 I don't think it will be confusing because I do think 1010 00:50:56,333 --> 00:51:01,603 that, at this point, people understand that this is a -- 1011 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:06,770 this is a two-step process that has to get done before we can 1012 00:51:06,767 --> 00:51:08,367 wrap health care up altogether. 1013 00:51:08,367 --> 00:51:09,167 Thanks, guys. 1014 00:51:09,166 --> 00:51:10,396 Have a good weekend.