Template talk:PD-USGov-money

This is basically a copy of w:en:Template:Money-US. —Kenyon (t·c) 08:05, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

wording - listed coins

1. Shouldn't it be: „This is an image of paper currency or a coin not listed here, [...]“.
If a coin/paper currency is listed "here" the image has to be deleted, therefore it would be not necessary to have this license tag in the image description page.

2. Do I see it correct? Contrary to the template here are not listed any coin series that are not PD. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

HTTP URLs that can be changed to up-to-date HTTPS URLs

{{Edit request}} From what it appears, this template incorporates at least one link with an HTTP URL that could be changed to an up-to-date HTTPS URL. In addition, it appears that there are some links with HTTP URLs that are broken and which could be changed to working HTTPS URLs. (Among other things, using HTTPS URLs should provide increased privacy and security for users.) In particular, it appears that the following URLs could be changed:

• http://www.usmint.gov/policy/index.cfm?action=TermsOfUse#rights (there are two instances) could be changed to https://www.usmint.gov/policies/terms-of-use#rights
• http://www.usmint.gov/consumer/index.cfm?action=CircCoinPolicy could be changed to https://www.usmint.gov/news/consumer-alerts/business-guidelines/circulating-coin-design-use-policy
• http://www.usmint.gov/consumer/index.cfm?action=DesignPolicy could be changed to https://www.usmint.gov/news/consumer-alerts/business-guidelines/50-state-quarters-design-use-policy

Thanks. --Gazebo (talk) 07:12, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done Thank you! Majora (talk) 00:37, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Erroneous use of mint terms of service

It seems to me that the use of the mint's website as a definitive list of all coins not in the public domain is erroneous. The mint's website clearly states that the listed, non-free coins are "examples", which indicates that the list may not include every coin with a copyrighted design. In fact, the rules for a design contest for a recently released commemorative coin clearly indicate that the rights to the design of the coin would be transferred to the mint. In this case, and possibly others, the coin design was not prepared by US government employees in the course of their official duties and would therefore be non-free. Still, this copyrighted imagery is being used in several files on Wikimedia Commons. Perhaps this is just a fluke because the coin in question is relatively new, but I suspect the way we have been using the mint website to confirm a lack of copyright restrictions may be improper.

Note that many of these concerns apply to other PD tags in use on Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia that reference the fact that most US government-prepared works are copyright free.Mysterymanblue (talk) 02:48, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Edit Request May 31, 2021

{{Edit request}} Please change the body of the template to read something of this effect:

This image depicts a unit of currency issued by the United States of America. If this is an image of paper currency or coinage created by employees of the United States government as part of their official duties, it is a work of the United States Government, is ineligible for US copyright, and is therefore in the public domain in the United States.
Fraudulent use of this image is punishable under applicable counterfeiting laws.
As listed by the United States Secret Service at money illustrations, the Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section 411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations (31 CFR 411), permits color illustrations of U.S. currency provided:
1. The illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated;
2. The illustration is one-sided; and
3. All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.
Please ensure that this image does not contain copyrights licensed to the U.S. Mint and owned by third parties or assigned to and owned by the U.S. Mint, as such works are not freely usable [1]. See Commons:Determining if U.S. coins are free to use for help in determining the copyright status of U.S. coinage. For the United States Mint circulating coin design use policy, see [2]; for the policy on the 50 State Quarters, see [3].

Reasoning:

• Change "paper currency or a coin" to "paper currency or coinage" because "coinage" and "paper currency" are parallel in structure (they are both mass nouns)
• Change "not listed here" to "created by employees of the United States government as part of their official duties" because:
  • The list given by the U.S. mint is nonexhaustive. The mint's website describes the list as "Examples of materials in which copyrights have been assigned to and are owned by the United States Mint". The use of the word "examples" is means that the absence of a coin from this list does not necessarily mean that it is free to use.
  • Indeed, it only lists the Sacagawea coins as non-free, but many other coins, especially those designed by Artistic Infusion Program contractors and as part of a competition, are also non-free. See Commons:Determining if U.S. coins are free to use for an explanation of this. Almost every commemorative coin created since 2004 is non-free under this criteria.
  • Deletion of various coin media have shown that exclusion from the list does not make them freely usable. Please see Commons:Deletion requests/Apollo 11 Commemorative Coin Contest images and Commons:Deletion requests/US Mint Registered Copyrights
  • "created by employees of the United States government as part of their official duties" is the legal standard under which U.S. government works are in the public domain and is the most correct statement under the circumstances.
• Change "Certain coins contain copyrights..." to "Please ensure that this image does not contain copyrights..." to implore the uploader to check if their image is non-free. A large number of non-free U.S. mint images have been erroneously uploaded to Commons, so adding this sort of language will encourage uploaders to check their coin images.
• Add "as such works are not freely usable" to clarify the reasons for the previous imperative.
• Add "See Commons:Determining if U.S. coins are free to use for help in determining the copyright status of U.S. coinage." to provide more information on how a coin's copyright status can be determined.

 Mysterymanblue  21:06, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done These changes would need consensus. Seek Commons:Village pump/Proposals. 1989 (talk) 17:23, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Edit Request September 3, 2022

{{Edit request}} Request to change the broken link URL.

• Change https://www.secretservice.gov/money_illustrations.shtml to https://www.uscurrency.gov/media/currency-image-use

Also, please change the phrase "United States Secret Service" to "The U.S. Currency Education Program" accordingly. --Kocgs (talk) 08:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done in Special:Diff/686401418. --TKsdik8900 (talk) 09:10, 3 September 2022 (UTC)