Template talk:BSD

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Shouldn't this template state that it's BSD it is talking about, using some kind of header? As it is right now, it's not exactly clear what license the box is talking about. /Berdan 17:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Making the current year the default copyright year[edit]

It makes no sense whatsoever for us to have the current year be the default copyright year. This means that for most of the people using this template, the tag is going to say it is copyrighted in the current year FOREVER. Kaldari (talk) 03:28, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also you don't need to say "Copyright ©". © is an abbreviation for "Copyright". There are no circumstances in which both are required. (In fact neither have been required since the 1970s, but that's another issue.) Kaldari (talk)
Yeah I agree with the part where the current year should not be the default value. But for the copyright symbol "©", I see all the templates from
have this symbol (however, to be ASCII-based, they use "(c)" instead of "©", which we don't have to do). So I'm adding it back. Please understand, Thank you. --Tomchen1989 (talk) 18:21, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Other reasons: The copyright symbol "©" may be visually better than "Copyright" or "(c)". There's some suggestions from http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ03.pdf :
“ To guarantee protection for a copyrighted work in all UCC member countries, the notice must consist of the symbol © (the word “copyright” or the abbreviation is notacceptable), the year of first publication, and the name of the copyright proprietor. Example © 2013 John Doe. ”
However the default "Year" value could empty because the year of first publication is not known. But for the part of the copyright symbol, it's good to follow the suggestion. --Tomchen1989 (talk) 19:22, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've edited all Template:BSD/<language code> except the fully protected Template:BSD/en.

{{Edit request}} So here's the edit request:

In Template:BSD/en, after "|clauses = Copyright ", please add a "© ", making it: 

|clauses = Copyright © {{#if:{{{3|}}}|{{{3}}}}} {{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{{1}}}|The author}}

Thank you. --Tomchen1989 (talk) 19:22, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Josve05a (talk) 03:50, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

discussion at the village pump[edit]

see Commons:Village_pump#BSD_license_translations. darkweasel94 07:37, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your discussion is here: Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2013/11#BSD license translations. It's a very good point actually. I opt for (b) and I'm doing it.--Tomchen1989 (talk) 18:27, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I added a line to all Template:BSD/<language code> (except Template:BSD/en, which doesn't need one): 

|note='''Note:''' This is a translation of the [[Template:BSD/en|original English version]]. In the event of any differences in meaning between the original English version and a translation, the [[Template:BSD/en|original English version]] takes precedence.<!-- PLEASE TRANSLATE THIS LINE -->

However it doesn't work for now because the fully protected Template:BSD/layout needs to add a "note" line just like Template:MIT/layout. So:

{{Edit request}}To administrators: here in Template:BSD/layout, please replace 

{{{disclaimer|Default disclaimer}}}}}
----

by 

{{{disclaimer|Default disclaimer}}}
{{#if:{{{note|}}}|
----
<center><small>{{{note|empty}}}</small></center>}}}}
----

Thank you. --Tomchen1989 (talk) 20:36, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Tomchen1989: ✓ Done. Josve05a (talk) 03:52, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Other requests[edit]

{{Edit request}} There are lots of protected edit requests pending out there on Commons, and these requests on {{BSD}} are not yet responded. Now I also want:

  1. to add a "This file is licensed under the BSD 2/3/4-Clause License" line (otherwise people don't even know the name of the license),
  2. and to categorize the pages into 3 different categories "Category:BSD 2/3/4-Clause License" making it more clear, just like what {{MIT}} does.

I don't get why Template:BSD, Template:BSD/layout and Template:BSD/en are fully protected. I mean a semi-protection, preventing IP vandalism, is simply enough. There has never been a single vandalism or an edit war on these template pages. You want to contribute, but the page is fully protected. You file some pretty non-controversial edit requests, no admin responses. You've got to find it a little annoying. See {{MIT}} is not protected at all. {{MIT}} and {{BSD}} are far less visible than CC templates. I suggest the {{BSD}} template be changed from full protection to semi-protection state so that editors can do something. As you can see, the requests are more or less non-controversial, I'm the main contributor of {{MIT}} and {{BSD}}, I won't mess it up. Thank you. --Tomchen1989 (talk) 11:50, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Tomchen1989: I've changed it to semi. INeverCry 19:42, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not the subpages. Josve05a (talk) 08:32, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Subpages are now semi protected. --Jarekt (talk) 02:48, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
User:Josve05a fell free to apply changes you re-requested. --Jarekt (talk) 13:53, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done stale request. Tomchen1989 and Josve05a The pages are unprotected. --Jarekt (talk) 03:49, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BSD license and "All rights reserved" blurb[edit]

As recently discussed at Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#BSD_3-clause-like_license, there might be an accidental omission in the copyright notice at the head of the license text in this template. There should be an "All rights reserved." blurb at the end of the copyright notice that is at the head of the 4-clause BSD license, as can be seen at en:BSD licenses (or FSF's BSD 4-clause). Whether or not it should be included with the 3-clause or 2-clause licenses is less clear, as OSI shows them without that phrase (i.e. OSI's BSD 3-clause and BSD 2-clause), but many also include the "All rights reserved." blurb in the 3-clause and 2-clause (e.g., the FSF shows it in their copy of the 2-clause and en:BSD licenses shows it in both). Looking at the revision history, "All rights reserved" was originally included in our copy of the BSD 3-clause license, but was dropped from our template in 2010 when it was converted into a multilingual template.

If no one has an objection, I'm going to update the 4-clause BSD license to include the "All rights reserved." blurb at the end of the copyright notice at the head of the license. I am also considering adding a parameter to force the "All rights reserved." blurb to appear in the notice at the head of the license text for BSD 3-clause and BSD 2-clause licenses, but by default it will not be used in the 3-clasue and 2-clause versions. —RP88 (talk) 20:08, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Required disclaimer not present in 2-clause, other disclaimer issues[edit]

The required disclaimer is not present in the 2-clause variant for some reason.

Another issue I noticed is that the current way of injecting the copyright holder parameter into the disclaimer seems to only be valid for the 4-clause variant. If the Wikipedia page is correct, 3-clause uses the variable only once (after IN NO EVENT SHALL), and 2-clause uses a static disclaimer with no variables. The 2-clause also seems to have an optional final disclaimer (non-bolded) about how views contained in the software don't represent the project, with the project being a variable separate from the copyright holder. The last bit does seem to be only found in some variations of the license, and this version presented on choosealicense.com does not contain this part of the disclaimer. The latter version seems to be very popular since Github uses the site to present licensing options to their users.

It would also be a good idea to do some investigation on how much variance within the various versions of these licenses. The amount of different parameters is a bit of a pain, but since the licenses require the original notices and disclaimers to be reproduced, non-exact reproduction of the licenses used could pose an issue for legal use of many files. -- Veikk0.ma (talk) 05:25, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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