File talk:Coat of Arms of the Russian Federation.svg

The official picture of the National Emblem site, http://www.kremlin.ru/eng/articles/state_insignia_03_3.shtml (English) --Latitude 11:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About the last changes: golden border and Saint George details degradation[edit]

I've seen that Pianist added golden borders, that, actually, are not contained entirely in the image page, so the image are not rendered correctly. Moreover the details of Saint George and the Dragon are degradated. Since the original image is taken from the Russian Government original EPS, I need to know why. Thanks, F l a n k e r (talk) 10:16, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Flanker and other users. At first, please see an official image that I attached to the description. A detailed horsman in your version looks like a gay :) not like in the official image... I deleted a lot of artefacts and corrected colors according to the Russian federal law. You can change image according to the official image and with a valid SVG-code. Thanks for a discussion. --Pianist (talk) 12:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Pianist, you correctly linked a copy of the federal constitutional law about the State Emblem of the Russian Federation, but the law don't mention the golden border (I've read the article 1), although the picture includes it. Also at www.kremlin.ru you can find that this border is absent. I think that the picture you take as a model is too degraded, better illustration can be found at www.rossimvolika.ru. --F l a n k e r (talk) 09:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see only official image from the law that I gave to you [1]. Don't look at "rossimvolika" and another web-sites. --Pianist (talk) 15:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK --F l a n k e r (talk) 19:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your link is bad too (not a law attachment). Use my link to tiff image. --Pianist (talk) 21:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is an istitutional link, is good as yours. And in your link (the law) do not mention the gold border. Or I forgot something? F l a n k e r (talk) 08:51, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Do you hear anything what I said? I gave you a direct link to image from an official law. Look to official image and you'll find gold border, it is there. --Pianist (talk) 11:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I heard you, and I gave you another official link that don't shows the gold border. Moreover, the "official law" don't talk about that border. So what? --F l a n k e r (talk) 08:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't make me laugh. No other link from site kremlin.ru except the image wich attached to the law is not official. The law was written from official image, which was accepted as coat of arms. If somebody will draw an image, seeing only to the law - it will not be the coat of arms of Russia. --Pianist (talk) 11:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I want only point out that the official law you've linked don't speak about of any gold border. It's true or not? --F l a n k e r (talk) 08:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The official law also doesn't speak that eagle is not plucked. Just edit image according to the official coat of arms. --Pianist (talk) 14:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Something about Heraldy in Russia[edit]

I just want to figure out that heraldy is considered special art. It's not just an emblem, as it was in soviet epoch when coats of arms was really like emblems or logos. There are descriptions in a law of Coat of Arms which we shall use to draw it. It's an author's art vision followed by description. Yes, it shall be pretty closer to well-known image, but we shall not forget: it isn't logo! I have visited official Russian heraldy site and read that, for example, regalia / регалии of President of Russia contain golden eagles with alternative wings shapes. So please don't be such an agressive to protect this image from good edits. Especially when its about improving colours. In most pages this coat used as a small thumbnail and colours may be not perfect.

Also you can visit a site of president of Russia and see a coat in this page. It's even without sheild and it's OK because in our laws we can use a full sheilded-form or only single eagle.--WWay (talk) 01:12, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A good example of small image and pretty nice mix of gold and red: http://eng.kremlin.ru/images/main_logo.jpg

http://news.kremlin.ru/static/img/b-header/pres1.png This one i too very nice!

--WWay (talk) 01:23, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative version[edit]

Current
Alternative
Image from federal law
Coat in Russia passport

I upload altenative version using Pantone colors (Red - Pantone 485 С; Gold - Pantone 7409 С; Silver - Pantone 7543 ЕС) from ТУ 858-5959-2007 (Russian army Emblems technical details). Looks darkly, but in contrast to the current version colors, alternative is based on the sources. Propose to discuss the change of colors in current version. --Sasha Krotov (talk) 23:16, 10 August 2012 (UTC) +Passport --Sasha Krotov (talk) 06:59, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]