Commons talk:Upload Wizard feedback/Archive/2010/08

Censorship

Guillom is deleting whole sections of this page for the mysterious purpose of "processing", whatever that might mean (diff).

It turns out that I read Rocket000's message on Commons:Deletion requests/File:Euchloe-tagisEM.JPG where he refers to a talk on one of the now defunct sections of the present page. I had something to say to answer the two IPs, Angelo, and Rocket000. It is no longer possible.

Perhaps this is the purpose of this page : prevent people from talking to each other, and prevent them from proposing solutions, ensuring that the godly « team » has the monopoly of solutions.

Are community-made solutions and team-made solutions ennemies of each other ?

I think this page should be archived, like the village pump, and every talk page, not deleted.

Teofilo (talk) 17:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Archiving is exactly what I am doing. As stated at the beginning of the page, it "is a place for [Commons users] to tell the Multimedia Usability Team what issues [they] encounter when using Commons or contributing multimedia content to Wikimedia projects.". Now that they have done so, I have been processing this data and summarizing it into something that can be used by the team; see Multimedia:Issues reported by users.

As I already told you before, I don't think I could prevent anyone from "talking to each other" even if I wanted to. This just sounds like your current meme.

Oh, and by the way, I do have a talk page when you have questions to ask. I could have told you exactly the same thing if you had asked me directly. guillom 08:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Except for user talk pages, we generally don't archive the way you are doing this. One would just create a subpage /Archive and paste the processed content there .. at least until liquid threads works here. -- User:Docu at 09:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Does it actually change anything? guillom 10:57, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

For personal talk pages, it doesn't really, one writes and another reads and/or answers. For more general pages, as there are multiple readers and writers, it's more complicated. en:Help:Archiving a talk page outlines advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I rarely read archives. -- User:Docu at 11:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

LiquidThreads freezes my computer, so I would be glad it would never be implemented on Commons, and removed from strategy:. Teofilo (talk) 15:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure that User:Werdna, who wrote LiquidThreads, would love to hear your problems with it so they can be fixed... Mike Peel (talk) 21:32, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Archiving here would be a good idea, if only because it means others can skim through the comments that have already been made and avoid duplication, if they so wish. Also, it's useful to be able to access a longer comment rather than just a synopsis as is on the multimedia website. Mike Peel (talk) 21:32, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

But I did archive precisely for the reasons you give. guillom 11:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Archive improvement

Copied from Commons:Usability issues and ideas#Archive added:

I have just copied this revision of this page that was pipe-linked above as "Archive 1: 21 October - 4 December 2009" to Commons:Usability issues and ideas/Archive 1. I then added a {{Search box}} at the top to hopefully help readers search both this page and its archive. The search index takes time to populate, and is sometimes temperamental and incomplete (another usability issue that could be improved).

-84user (talk) 15:15, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Confused

I don't understand this edit. Why is this page's remit being changed to only focus on the new upload form? And where is this "Questions and Answers" page that is bolded but not linked? Powers (talk) 13:37, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I must say I'm equally confused. This strikes me as hijacking a general purpose page for a very narrow scope, which is not at all apparent from its name. —LX (talk, contribs) 14:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Tick tock. Anyone involved with this care to comment? Powers (talk) 18:18, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I am involved with this and I do care to comment; I just wanted to focus on the actual feedback first, as I'm sure you'll understand (also, you don't have to post the question in three different places).

I created the page in October 2009 as a central place of communication between the community of Commons and the Multimedia usability team. When Vector was released, I offered my co-workers from the Wikipedia usability initiative to temporarily expand the scope of the page, and to use it to collect feedback on Vector as well, because we assumed a lot of Commons users knew the page and would naturally come here to comment. Now that the feedback for Vector is decreasing, the Multimedia usability team needs the page again as a central place of communication with the community of Commons, and right now we expect this communication to be mostly about our prototype upload wizard. The obvious advantage of having a central page of communication is to avoid scattering the discussions & feedback pages (this is something participants have complained about in the past.

We're only using the page for the purpose it was originally created for, so I would hardly call it "hijacking" or "co-opting". guillom 00:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, it's been almost a week; I was only trying to get your attention. Powers (talk) 17:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

The page originally welcomed discussion regarding usability aspects of the whole site. It now only welcomes discussion regarding the usability of one particular prototype feature. I have no problem with it also welcoming those discussions. What I don't understand is why it should now focus only on that, as suggested by the description at the top of the page. —LX (talk, contribs) 19:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

So where does one go for more general usability issues? I want someone to give me a gadget to stop pressing enter on the searchbox searching every goddamn time - I type in COM:L, enter, I want it to bloody go to COM:L, not search for it. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:21, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

For general usabilty issues (not only related to commons) you can go to usability.wikimedia.org.

As for COM:L + enter: for me it goes staight to COM:L, and not to a search page. This works also for com:l + enter. HenkvD (talk) 19:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing you use the Monobook skin. Set GoButton=true; in your monobook.js. —LX (talk, contribs) 12:32, 20 December 2010 (UTC)