Commons:Valued image candidates/NSU Lambretta, 149 cm³, 6 PS, Bj. 1955 (Sp).JPG

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NSU Lambretta, 149 cm³, 6 PS, Bj. 1955 (Sp).JPG

promoted
Image
Nominated by Spurzem (talk) on 2022-03-26 19:27 (UTC)
Scope Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
NSU Lambretta, front and right side
Used in Global usage
Reason I was surprised and delighted to see this barn find of a once popular NSU Lambretta at a classic car show. The paintwork is terrible, but otherwise you can see how beautiful this scooter was and still is today. Up to now there are not too many pictures of the NSU Lambretta in the Commons. -- Spurzem (talk)
Review
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* Oppose This is a good image, appropriate for VI with a change to the scope. I appreciate that you took some time to write a reason for VI support. It was good to understand your thoughts on this. However, I agree with Charles that "barn find" is extra description that is not necessary for the scope. Also, as there are many NSU Lambretta scooters in Commons, the build year should be added. The statement of view limits the scope and I think you can go wider and drop the view if the year is added. I suggest a scope for this VI nominaton of "NSU Lambretta scooter (1955)" being the most valuable image of this scooter of this model year, and would support that. --GRDN711 (talk) 06:52, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@GRDN711: Isn't it interesting and remarkable that other applicants don't have to state the year of manufacture of the vehicle they are presenting? Perhaps that means: If I had stated the year of manufacture of the NSU Lambretta, it would have been wrong too. In any case, you would have had a reason to declare the picture worthless. -- Spurzem (talk) 14:55, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ignoring this nonsense about discussion of scope meaning your work is "worthless," please explain how "barn find" is a visible part of a scope, and don't deflect by claiming it's a stupid question or that the question shows hatred of you or a dismissal or your very valuable work. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:25, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Let's keep it as it is: What I write is fundamentally wrong or too much and leads to rejection, no matter how small the detail may be. If I had mentioned the year of manufacture, for example, it would have been wrong. Now I didn't name it, and it's also wrong. No matter how: What Spurzem presents is worthless! Correct? -- Spurzem (talk) 19:34, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just answer the question. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:40, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I find COM:VIS to be good late-night reading and it speaks to this issue.
COM:VIS “Note that scope is not a simple description of your image. Rather, it defines a generic field or category within which your image is the most valuable example.”
“Barn find” is just extra description; it does not define a generic field or category for VI.
COM:VIS: “There should be something visible in the nominated image which links it specifically in some way with the chosen scope.”
Would you know from looking at the image, that the scooter was a “barn find”?
I have suggested a change of scope to "NSU Lambretta scooter (1955)" which I believe meets all COM:VIS guidance and would support this image for VI with this scope. --GRDN711 (talk) 04:35, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Result: 4 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 04:31, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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