Commons:Valued image candidates/Geronimo (Goyathlay), a Chiricahua Apache, full-length, kneeling with rifle, 1887 - NARA - 530880.tif

Geronimo (Goyathlay), a Chiricahua Apache, full-length, kneeling with rifle, 1887 - NARA - 530880.tif

declined

Image
Nominated by	cmadler (talk) on 2012-03-29 15:19 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope: Chief Geronimo, Apache leader
Used in	Global usage
Reason	I think this one is best; also available as JPG file. -- cmadler (talk)
Review (criteria)	Comment Good try ;) though the VI in this scope should show Geronimo in stately chief presence as shown in the portrait photographs.--MrPanyGoff 16:04, 29 March 2012 (UTC) Geronimo was never a "stately chief". He was a war chief who led his people in raids and battles for thirty years (1858-1886, from the age of 30 to 60). In 1886 he was captured by the US Army and was held as a prisoner for the rest of his life. In his last years he was allowed to make appearances (1904 World's Fair, Roosevelt's 1905 inaugural parade, etc.), and that is when the "stately" posed photos were taken. So I think for VI we should show him as the warrior he really was, and not as a stereotypical "en:noble savage". This other image is even better in some regards, since it may have been taken before his imprisonment, and therefore, to the extent it's posed, may reflect self-image rather than the image the US Army wanted to portray, but the technical quality of that one is just not good. cmadler (talk) 13:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC)  Support VI for me --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:01, 30 March 2012 (UTC) I agree with Yann for JPG --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:36, 3 April 2012 (UTC)  Comment The colors should be corrected (that's easy), and the JPEG should be nominated, not the TIFF version. Yann (talk) 06:27, 31 March 2012 (UTC) Fair enough; consider this TIFF nomination withdrawn as incorrect. cmadler (talk) 13:38, 3 April 2012 (UTC)  Info Derivative work, and story of the original image. --Myrabella (talk) 16:54, 31 March 2012 (UTC) I've got it: here an albumen print, copyrighted by A. Frank Randall, May 16, 1884. --Myrabella (talk) 17:05, 31 March 2012 (UTC) Scores: 1. Chief Geronimo I.jpg: +0 2. GeronimoRinehart.jpg: +0 3. Geronimo (Guiyatle), Apache.jpg: +0 4. Geronimo (Goyathlay), a Chiricahua Apache, full-length, kneeling with rifle, 1887 - NARA - 530880.tif: +0 5. Geronimo (Goyathlay), a Chiricahua Apache, full-length, kneeling with rifle, 1887 - NARA - 530880.jpg: +3 => File:Chief Geronimo I.jpg: Declined. File:GeronimoRinehart.jpg: Declined. File:Geronimo (Guiyatle), Apache.jpg: Declined. File:Geronimo (Goyathlay), a Chiricahua Apache, full-length, kneeling with rifle, 1887 - NARA - 530880.tif: Declined. File:Geronimo (Goyathlay), a Chiricahua Apache, full-length, kneeling with rifle, 1887 - NARA - 530880.jpg: Promoted. --MrPanyGoff 20:33, 8 April 2012 (UTC)