Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives October 2006

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Consensual review[edit]

  • Nomination: Fickowa Pokusa band. The 43rd Beskidy Highlanders' Week of Culture. --Lestat 18:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Review moved to CR
  • I moved this image here as the subject(person) is identifiable and one criteria is that the image has appropriate copyright, I assume this to also include a release from the subject. I know if this is a public performance in Australia performers, and crew photos can be taken and released for use without gaining permissions first, but I have also seen discussion here about European contries where that isnt necessarily the case.
  • If someone can confrim the copyright is acceptable then I'm happy for it to be promoted Gnangarra 14:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Result: promoted (2 support, 0 oppose)

  • Nomination Bread crust --Roger McLassus 08:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Decline We are too close to the trees to see the forest. I think that the macro-structure of the bread's crust would be better appreciated with a lesser amplification - Alvesgaspar 17:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I think the judgement is based on artistic criteria, only. IMO the image meets all Commons:Quality images guidelines, so it should be promoted. Apart from that, for me the point of the image is to work as a visual puzzle, not to show bread structure as clearly as possible. --Wikimol

Result: not promoted (1 support, 2 oppose) - Alvesgaspar 11:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nomination: My local church. Want to see if this is "enough" for QI. Jon Harald Søby 14:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Review Maybe it is if you upload a higher resolution image - Alvesgaspar 19:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Another difficult case. I really don't think guidelines should be blindly applied, after all they are only guidelines. Techical requirements are intended to help and support our judgement, not to substitute it. I support promotion inspite of resolution. - Alvesgaspar 08:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Decline QI standards where aimed at improving/identify the quality images available on Commons according to a set of guidelines. Were an image doesnt meet the guidelines in this case resolution there needs to be other compelling factors to promote the image, this one doesnt indicate any reasons Gnangarra 16:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • The following excerpt was taken from Wikipedia:What is a featured picture?. Why should the crireria for QI be more strict than for featured pictures?
A featured picture should:
[…]
Be of a high resolution. The picture should be of sufficiently high resolution to allow quality reproductions. While larger images are generally prefered, images should be at least 1000 pixels in resolution in width or height to be supported, unless they are of historical significance or animated. Information on image size can be found here.
Alvesgaspar 10:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • QI is more specific in its source material in that it is for self published works, these images are in general going to be from a digital camera which all provided images greater than 1600 px on one dimension. Basic scanners are also capable of scanning images in resolutions large enough to meet the criteria. QI isnt asking for something that cant normally be provided, also remember if there are compelling reasons to set aside a specific criteria then the image can still be promoted. Gnangarra 10:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A side issue maybe you like to start a discussion on the talk page to further explore possibilities. Gnangarra
  • I agree with Gnangarra. QI criteria should IMO be interpreted much more stricly than FP criteria. One point of QI is to promote creating and uploading quality images in full resolution. 1600x1200 is barely 2Mpx. From the other side - the "user side" - QI mark should be guaranty the image has enough resolution, is not too much noisy, etc... so you can use it not only as a 400x300 jpeg image on the web, but also in print, for example. --Wikimol 09:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, I understand and accept the point, although I feel free to break the rules again whenever a good pretext comes up... I don't understand why the author of this picture didn't upload a better version yet. - Alvesgaspar 17:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Result >> not promoted


  • Nomination: Mammoth Hot Springs in Yellowstone National Park -- SOADLuver 17:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Review Very nice picture but poor resolution. I'm moving this image to Consensual Review to get other opinions -- Alvesgaspar 10:48, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Result >>> not promoted


  • Nomination: Przemysław Olbryt from polish metal band Asgaard. --Lestat 22:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Review This is a hard one. As a photo, I like it. Quite simply, it is good. However, I am not too certain about the quality in technical sense, which I think QI is alla about. Perhaps, insufficent DOF. Might be a a candidate for consensual review. --Thermos 17:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


Result >>> promoted to QI
I struck out result as CR should permit a longer period(1 day) for responses, unless original nominator declines promotion Gnangarra 15:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]
  • I dont think the image is QI as the eyes are red(if it was colour), theres too much light across the face and focus problems Gnangarra 15:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of course the eyes are weird, it is all part of the frightning (gothic?) look of the rocker! I'm not sure the face has too much light: look at his left hand. Also, sometimes we have to forgive little sins to let the essential be recognized...and promoted (it seems we need a new referee to decide this issue...) - Alvesgaspar 20:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Two things:
    1. This photo was made during concert, not in a studio, so better light is nearly impossible :)
    2. Guy on photo has special, diabolic contact lenses (look at different images)
  • --WarX 20:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • theres no need for a "new referee" consensual review as about get a consensus while I still disagree that the image passes QI criteria, all others are of the opposite opinion, the eyes have been explained, its something that should be included in the image description. Gnangarra 23:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Result >>> promoted to QI


  • Nomination WAFB appliance bucket...Gnangarra 14:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Decline With a person working on it: "yes" but this is empty. Diligent
  • I don't think it needs person working on it. As a technical illustration it's usable. --Wikimol 16:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • However, I think that a quality image should be a little more than "usable". In my opinion, they aim to illustrate positive examples of various parameters contributing to image quality: composition, colour, documental interest, etc. -- Alvesgaspar 17:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • You'll see in the image below that the tower was empty, the person operating the lift was under instruction and that to climb the tower to take photos the person who would normally ride the lift had to escort me. under the subject of "useable" the majority of fire appliance images are of vehicles parked in station houses, those that are of appliances in use are from ground level. Gnangarra 23:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

result -- declined


  • Nomination WAFB appliance training ..Gnangarra 14:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Decline Personally, I want more of tech/daily life pics but the truck is "cropped" on the bottom right. Diligent
  • The "cropped" section is a support leg its inclusion would have added spectators. additionally horizontal depth would reduce vertical detail and its a verticle subject. Gnangarra 23:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't really think this picture qualifies as a QI. The most obvious drawback is the composition which seems cluttered and confusing. For example, I can't figure out if those spiral stairs are inside or outside the truck... -- Alvesgaspar 22:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

result -- decline


  • Nomination Bombus spec --Alvesgaspar 22:43, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Decline I am affraid that this image is far too small to be QI. As per the rules above, the minumum resolution should be 1600 px, which is much more than in this picture is. Sorry. --Thermos 17:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Result >>> not promoted



  • Nomination West Australian Ecology centre.. Gnangarra 14:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Decline Ordinary snapshot with no special documental interest or technical quality. Sharpness is poor -- Alvesgaspar 15:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Quality Images (as contrasted to Featured Pictures) do not have to be exceptionaly interesting or have some special technical quality. As for topic... anything which may be useful for Wikimedia projects goes. Technical criteria are set by Commons:Quality image guidelines.
  • I'm still not sure wheter it should be promoted or not - as the in-camera processing of the file looks quite heavy (particluary the grass looks more like demosaic-sharpen-jpeg pattern than grass). --Wikimol 16:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

result - not promoted Gnangarra 23:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]



File:Frombork - Katedra - Portal wejściowy.JPG
  • Nomination Main portal of Frombork Catherdral --Lestat 20:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Decline Overexposed parts. Pko 17:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


>>>> Result: promoted to QI (Alvesgaspar 11:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]


File:Way into the sea edit.jpg
  • Nomination Way into the sea--Alvesgaspar 18:47, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Decline I've declined as it more just an ordinary family photo, Gnangarra 12:35, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
  • My review of this image at QI is a little brief in my reasonings and probably a poor choice of wording. As an artistic image I like the composition with the way the person appears to be approaching the path into the sea. I spent a long time pondering the image before relucantly declining the reason was to do with the purpose of media uploaded to Commons from this perspective the image was more a classical/ordinary famliy type image and from there I wondered how the image could be utilised, I even spent time over on en.wikipedia looking for an article to which it would enhance the page. The only conclusion was that it would be a wonderful cover to a book/record album etc this to didnt fit within the commons purposes. Gnangarra 12:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info This is not a family photo. It is a snapshot of a completely unknown person. I was caught by an intense feeling that the woman was going to explore a path just opened in the sea. To reinforce the theme, I’ve cropped a little bit the original and adjusted the contrast. I wonder why there are so few photographs of ordinary people in Commons QI and FP… -- Alvesgaspar 13:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Commons purpose is to serve as a media library for Wikimedia projects. Anything suitable for commercial image library is IMO suitable for Commons, so based on contents, I would support the image. Roger McLassus is right with the objections, but I think sharpness and scope of overexposed are are within QI limits. --Wikimol 08:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Result Promoted