Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives May 04 2021

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Consensual review[edit]

File:House_in_Quebec_city.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination House in Quebec city --Wilfredor 21:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality. --Aristeas 08:54, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment For good long term use in Commons and Wikipedia, please add street description and preferably, GPS coordinates, to image description. --GRDN711 00:42, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    •  Comment I prefer don't add this info for privacy reasons, Im very sorry --Wilfredor 23:09, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support That's reasonable. Good quality for me. --Lion-hearted85 25 April 2021, 14:06 (UTC)
  •  Support per others. Say which neighborhood it's in if you're comfortable with that, but I trust your decision. -- Ikan Kekek 09:16, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose All right, I'll open a can of worms. "House in Quebec city" is far too inaccurate as a single description for a building. There are no known restictions about depicting buildings in Canada. A photo of a building visible from public space, taken without any aids such as ladders, lifting platforms or photo drones and showing nothing from inside the building, does not violate any privacy rules. There is therefore no reasonable reason to obscure the address or omit it altogether. If a photographer has concerns along these lines, it is better not to publish such a photo in the first place. --Smial 12:10, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Yeah, adding the street's category is very easy and doesn't violate your privacy, unless you say "that's where I live". But then the house still might be identified by someone, so it is obviously much smarter not to upload the picture at all. Simple as is. --A.Savin 12:25, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support As I wrote on the talk page, I don't think we should oblige someone to specify coordinates when privacy is a consideration. Perhaps it's a family member's house, or a friend, or just a place near to where you live. Since it's not a notable building, it's not all that important that we be able to pinpoint exactly where it is. My approach would be to choose a random nearby place (perhaps the center of the city) and use the "prec" location parameter set to like 5000. XRay pointed out on the talk page that there's even a template to show this has been done. Rhododendrites 18:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
    Ok, but if I want to add the information, I can found it and add it. --Sebring12Hrs (talk) 20:46, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
    If the uploader intentionally omitted it, I don't think that would be appropriate. We don't add absolutely all information about a subject just because it's possible and someone might find it useful. Practically speaking, there's little use to a specific street address or pinpoint coordinates, but there is potential harm avoided by omitting it. Likewise if a person is depicted, it's also unnecessary to dig up personal information about them (their address, facebook profile, phone number, etc.) even though it's possible and could be useful to someone. I understand this is a flawed analogy, but I feel strongly that our users' pleas for privacy not be ignored except in extraordinary circumstances. Rhododendrites 21:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Rhododendrites: As you might have noticed, I didn't demand coordinates. Coordinates are useful for the uttermost motives, but there is no QIC guideline that required it for QI promotion. But we have the requirement of appropriate categorization in the guidelines (COM:QIC 2.1.1.3). And if it is a photo of a non-notable building just "somewhere in Quebec", how is it then in COM:SCOPE? --A.Savin 21:05, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
    I agree that it would benefit from better categorization: type of house, materials used, year built... any of this stuff would help it be in scope. My main point is that I disagree that coordinates (or an address) in particular should be necessary (and I understand you are not saying it is). If, ultimately, it's not in scope, it's not because of the location. After all, what use is the address and pinpointed geocoordinates of a non-notable building or location? Rhododendrites 21:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment The scope is hard to discuss IMO. In this case, it can be for me in scope as an example how houses in Quebec city look like. So I see this not as a problem :) --PantheraLeo1359531 16:50, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Promoted   --Peulle 10:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

File:Pigeons_Courting_Ooty_Mar21_A7C_00671.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination: Common pigeons (Columba livia) courting, Ooty, India --Tagooty 11:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Review
  •  Oppose Too blurry. Sorry. --Ermell 13:05, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Template:Cmd I request reconsideration of this: With two pigeons in rapid movement while courting, some lack of sharpness is inevitable. I looked through ~150 FP/QI/VI of common pigeons in Category:Columba livia. Only 3-4 show pigeons in motion and all are partly blurry e.g. File:Domestic Pigeon Flock Tree.jpg. There are no images of pigeons courting. --Tagooty 04:14, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Blur as sign of movement, nothing against it --Moroder 08:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support per Moroder and remarks by nominator. Also a useful photo. -- Ikan Kekek 20:44, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Weak oppose blur showing movement is ok, and I agree some amount of blur is expected in a shot like this, but the shot that is blurred is itself unclear. With the example of the pigeons in flight, the scene is quite clear ... it's just blurry. In this case, the scene which is blurred wouldn't be clear even if it weren't blurred. If there were a good shot of pigeons courting/mating which just happened to be blurred, that would be one thing, but it's hard to even make out what's happening here, except to know that if two pigeons are interacting like this it's likely some kind of courtship (but, of course, it doesn't have to be). Rhododendrites 03:21, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Weak oppose per Ermell and Rhododendrites. --GRDN711 (talk) 11:09, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Per Moroder --Michielverbeek 05:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)+
  •  Oppose Weak oppose per Ermell and Rhododendrites.--Lmbuga 15:36, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 10:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)