Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives June 25 2019

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Consensual review[edit]

File:Liége,_la_Passerelle_Saucy_verlicht_in_de_avond_IMG_9709_2019-06-01_22.31.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Liége-Belgium, la Passerelle Saucy illuminated in the late evening --Michielverbeek 20:24, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Promotion  Comment I have nominated yesterday six photos so I have replaced one to today --Michielverbeek 17:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
     Oppose - Nicely atmospheric, but not sharp enough in my opinion. -- Ikan Kekek 21:45, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
     Comment - Whoever reset this from "Decline" to "Discuss" should please identify themselves and give an argument. Otherwise, I will reset it back to "Decline". -- Ikan Kekek 20:25, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
     Comment - In case it's not too late, I reset it to "Decline". Without a supporting vote or statement, this shouldn't be here. -- Ikan Kekek 05:44, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
     Comment Sorry, I did not realize that this was necessary because I simply don't agree with the decline. IMO it is sharp enough for QI. And I also would like to know what kind of a mistake I have made for this kind of unsharpness (f-value? exposure time? wrong focus? better camera?) and ofcourse I have used a tripod. Well I am not used to nominate a photo with such a long exposure time. --Michielverbeek 07:54, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
    OK, I've restored it to discuss. Yes, next time please make a statement that you are contesting the decline. I should say, I don't know what technical mistake you may have made; I only judge the result. Hopefully, someone else will be able to give you some suggestions. -- Ikan Kekek 09:06, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
     Support Good quality IMO. In these conditions, picture taken in the late evening with a long time exposure, the quality is good enough for me --PJDespa 20:32, 22 June 2019 (UTC) 20:29, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
     Support Good quality, for the same reasons. --TheSyndicate94 15:54, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
     Comment - Have you tried manual focus? It might yield even better results. Just in case you don't know this allready: when using a tripod turn of the image stabilizer and use the self timer (5s+) or remote shutter release when taking photos with a long exposure time. This is necessary when doing astrophotography. --TheSyndicate94 15:54, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Seven Pandas 21:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

File:Dülmen,_ehem._St.-Barbara-Kaserne_--_2019_--_6394.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Former barracks in Dülmen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany --XRay 04:20, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Oppose Insufficient quality. Dappled light. Poor composition. Sorry. --Stoxastikos 17:57, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment @Stoxastikos: It's an old, abandoned and unused building within the former barracks. The plants are growing up. The dappled light emphasizes the plants. Why do you think it's a poor composition? --XRay 15:40, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment @XRay: You ask why, in my opinion, this picture suffers from bad composition? Well, because it’s not beautiful. OK, OK, just kidding. I won’t touch on aesthetics here because, after all, it’s a subjective thing. Rather, technically speaking, I would claim that the photo represents the subject in a poor way. First of all, I (maybe naively) believe, that entire point of taking a picture is to tell a story or, if not, to convey a feeling. You say it’s an abandoned barracks, and I have no reason to disbelieve you. Sure it is. But how would I know it if you wouldn’t tell me? What’s so barracky about it? It’s just some wall that could belong to any building whatsoever. So, without your explanation I am not able to extract any meaning from the photo and thus can’t feel the desolation you are talking about. It’s hard for me to feel anything while looking at the plain brick wall. It’s a job of the photographer to find an angle at which the building would look forlorn and abandoned without any explanations. In other words, the picture should speak for itself. Second reason is perspective. Shooting through the canopy of the foliage in the sunny day while standing in shadow inevitably produces washed out sky. The result is usually made even more unnatural by the harsh contrast between the totally white background and darker leaves. Now, to the third point. Truth to be told, I don’t particularly care for your shooting the wall head on, so it looks completely flat, with no dimensions outside the classic Cartesian X and Y. I’d like to see at least some hint of Z, which would be possible only if the picture was taken from an angle. And, finally, about the dappled light. It does not emphasize the trees. To the contrary. It is very well known, that human eyes looking at any picture or painting go first to the brightest spot. That’s why many photographers use various techniques to switch the attention of the viewer to the most important part of the picture. Using vignetting, dodge and burn etc. they make the most important parts brighter and less important – darker. The dappled light acts effectively as a camouflage hiding the wall by forcing the eyes to wander choosing one of the multiple bright spots, of which the most are located in the sky here. Therefore the building remains the last to be seen. I sure may be wrong. It’s just my take from this particular picture. Stoxastikos 20:08, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Wrong or not, your answer is really good. I can follow your arguments, yes. The photo alone does not express it. I've taken a lot of photographs and hopefully they all together will express it. The photographs are used for a project of the history of the cold war. It's just an impression of the former barracks. Other photos may taken much easier, these one with the plants (and a lot of fences) not. But I didn't expected such answer, a really good explanation of your review. Thanks a lot! --XRay 08:18, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment @XRay: You are very welcome! If I may suggest a way to make this picture more telling even from this angle, you can try the following: come at night, when it's dark, place the camera on the tripod, make the exposure longer using ND filter or just close the aperture and lower the ISO, and then use some light painting concentrating on the window to create an impression of a slight glow emanating from the inside. After some trial and error it may turn out spooky enough to emphasize the full point: the war slowly fading away in the shadows of history. Stoxastikos 09:07, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment Sorry, but these photographs are used as a document for a project of the Cold War in the Münsterland. It would be too artifical for this project. But thank you for your ideas. --XRay 18:01, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support - Good quality and an acceptable composition, IMO. -- Ikan Kekek 00:39, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The picture with the disturbing shadows does not correspond to its description. -- Spurzem 16:51, 12 June 2019 (UTC) I change to  Neutral. Look below. -- Spurzem 16:18, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment @Spurzem: Why not? It's part of the barracks. --XRay 15:40, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
@XRay: Please do not mind me, but it is really only a very small part of the barracks, and the shadows and bushes are too disturbing to give an idea of the building. -- Spurzem 16:18, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
No problem, thank you. Some of the buildings are still in use (for companies and other), some are waiting for demolition - like this one. It's overgrown since a lot of years. --XRay 16:54, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support per Ikan. --M@nfred (talk) 11:46, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support per Ikan. --Aristeas 12:07, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Seven Pandas 01:16, 19 June 2019 (UTC)